Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 30 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome It's really hard to relax, I feel like i'm playing russian roulette. Just don't know what's coming.... Hello all Oh men ,what is going you guy,why faiied alot Hey toan give a call brother I think you was ok trust I will give you some advice before you are going HCMC John hey Toan I think you will be get it ,they was investigate you now,that why it was took too long in your case hope you may man you and your wife will be united soon John Thanks john, I'm going in on the 5th to check on my status and submit more evidence. I hope everything ok so we can fly back together, I dont wnat to wait no longer.......	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 12:47:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome It's really hard to relax, I feel like i'm playing russian roulette. Just don't know what's coming.... Hello all Oh men ,what is going you guy,why faiied alot Hey toan give a call brother I think you was ok trust I will give you some advice before you are going HCMC John	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 12:04:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 28 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> after hearing about these denials i'm really scared. I just bought tickets to vietnam. I'm leaving next week. I'm goiing in at every possibilities to the consulate. Really sad to hear huong and phung and jeromebinh. Keep your heads up and keep on going. Hey Toan good luck dat nhieu ket qua tot dep get pink pink ok John Dear scottThuy and all VJer After a few months of preparations and waiting (AP 67days) , and weeks of sleepless nights, we finally made it! my wife she got Visa, today at 0430pm I just wanna thank you,Scotthuy and all you guys for all the help and assistance. Foremost, I am sooo grateful to God ( Quan the am Bo Tac)for making this possible for us. Kim Hai and I wouldn't have gone this far without She help. and worth remembering. Had I not only gained friends around, I also find the people inside VJer so accommodating and friendly. I wishes you best luck like scotthuy,Jimphuong toantien art&vi million good luck to you and GOOD BYE JOhncali9	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 05:32:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 28 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> after hearing about these denials i'm really scared. I just bought tickets to vietnam. I'm leaving next week. I'm goiing in at every possibilities to the consulate. Really sad to hear huong and phung and jeromebinh. Keep your heads up and keep on going. Hey Toan good luck dat nhieu ket qua tot dep get pink pink ok John	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 14:36:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Looks like a common factor in denials is Timeline...5 denials, each case CO requested at minimum a timeline... Hello Linda and Scott We would like to know toan&tien,art&vi ,trinh ly I think I knew please update you guy was comander @ Vj thank you do much johncali9	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 11:21:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EVERYONE! SAD NEWS. OUR VISA HAS BEEN DENIED. I'M IN PAIN RIGHT NOW AND THIS INFORMATION IS BEING GIVEN BY MY U.S REPRESENTATIVE. Hey huong you were failures,oh god's we need you help huong johncali9	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 11:30:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 26 2009, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 26 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell? Hey man oh man !!! you will get approve soon men ,like me i was sleep 5 years alone men ,please caldown, John Hey linda and scott Update for TRINH LY I just spoken with Trinh Ly ,He was say that,his wife was got prenancy , so he told The CO the he was not need go US now, wait for his wife birh the baby ( they are good) i was looking for that, Johncali9	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-26 22:35:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 26 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell? Hey man oh man !!! you will get approve soon men ,like me i was sleep 5 years alone men ,please caldown, John	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-26 21:26:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has either had their wives go to the window to inquire? I know John's wife found out when she went to the Consulate...and then got a letter later. There was a little bit of traveling for her, but they got pink too... (We never got a notification by phone or mail by the way... ) Dear Scott and Linda t Thank you so much Linda and Scott you tell me to come see the Co as well that the way work very ,I told my friend same way . We call the name "Linda way" thank you johncali9	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-26 15:16:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel. Jerome, I feel your pain. What happened to you and Binh is what I was affraid of happening to us. I don't mean to poor salt in your wounds but I want to point out so others may learn. From what I understand you visited Binh In Vietnam 2 times that were not in the case record after the interview. For those reading this, you or your fiance/wife may introduce more evidence/information at anytime through certified mail or in person at the embassy between 1 and 2 everyday or USA petitioners only at 4 to 5pm Tuesday and Wednesday. IF you submit more Information the Consulate must review it and that can extend your time in AP. This can be anything you think is relavent to your case. Chat Logs, Pictures, An explanation letter, Airline tickets, Copy of passport, updated timeline.... If they tell you they don't need it. Tell them you insist it goes into the file for review. Re- apply for K1. You are more educated now and should be able to overcome the obsticles. If you go CR1 or K3 and fail it will take a very long time to get it back to VN for a second chance. You could go ahead with the marraige requirements and planning if you want while a new K1 application is going through. Good luck, Fred	fred n Dao Honey	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 20:38:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID My U.S rept told me to not try to keep it at the embassy but to let it go back to the US. After getting back to the U.S, then they have to write a long letter stating their decision and then I can do the rebuttal for it. How much to hire an attorney and what will happen after hiring them? What is the average wait time until I get to Rebut? In my case, my wife failed the interview on Nov. 7, 2008. The case was sent back and USCIS (California Service Center) didn't recieve the file until early June 2009. I was given 30 days to submit a rebuttal. USCIS reaffirmed the petition in August 2009 and the file was sent back to NVC for processing. NVC forwarded the case file to the Consulate in HCMC on Sept 25, 2009. I'm now just waiting for a letter of some sort from the Consulate because I have no idea what to do next until I recieve some word from them.	vuster	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-27 15:19:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 30 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome It's really hard to relax, I feel like i'm playing russian roulette. Just don't know what's coming.... Hello all Oh men ,what is going you guy,why faiied alot Hey toan give a call brother I think you was ok trust I will give you some advice before you are going HCMC John Thanks john, I'm going in on the 5th to check on my status and submit more evidence. I hope everything ok so we can fly back together, I dont wnat to wait no longer.......	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-30 12:22:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome It's really hard to relax, I feel like i'm playing russian roulette. Just don't know what's coming....	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:46:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy.	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:38:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I'm going back to vietnam on the 4th. My wife spoke with lytrinh and she told me he got denied. This is getting crazy guys. I dont'' know what's going on at the consulate. I just got back from vietnam on the 23rd of september now i'm going back again next week, i hope this will let them know that i'm no fraud. I'll update if anything goes.	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:14:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Thanks jerome and jonh and everyone in vj. This site has been very helpful. Good luck with your wife coming to america john. I wish you guys have a wonderful loving life together with a baby a the beginning of the year and the end of the year. Jerome after reading about your case, I see there is a lot of red flags that made them denied your visa. It sucks, they only look at facts of whats on paper, they can never really understand our true relationship with our love ones. I think the best way to prove a relationship is real or not, is to use a lie detector test. I rather put my hopes on a lie detector test than on the judgement of a human being. I'm really sorry and I can feel the pain of denial, just like the time my wife walks out with the blue, it really hurts, but I had to be strong and let her know that regardless I will not give up hope...good luck!	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-29 10:03:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	after hearing about these denials i'm really scared. I just bought tickets to vietnam. I'm leaving next week. I'm goiing in at every possibilities to the consulate. Really sad to hear huong and phung and jeromebinh. Keep your heads up and keep on going.	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-28 12:46:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in the US ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline (no decision as of 10/22) Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline (APPROVAL DREAMT) Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline	toantien	Not Telling	Vietnam	2009-10-26 16:06:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	The immigration attorneys that helped another VJ'er in his very tough case (Ecuador) are: Foster & Quan -- http://www.fosterquan.com They are in Houston I think. The firm is very prompt in responding via email.	Anh map	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 23:59:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 2nd denial K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-11 13:30:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Thats cheap price brother.. I am looking and cheapest now I see in early Jan is 1500. for 1.	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-05 15:44:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Huong, You should hear back from them Monday or so... Tuan is on his way to VN and a week from now we should know how it went...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-04 18:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Nov 3 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think he meant that for NQT1976...after he posted QUOTE this is a lesson for people whom ever think to marry a Vietnamese women. forget about bring a Vietnamese girl here because you can't afford a girl in US. If he meant me I did.. if he meant Dai I agree...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-03 15:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Nov 3 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think his denial blue slip had something to do with that reply.... Which one? He's had 2	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-03 15:35:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call		ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-03 11:42:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Nov 1 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 31 2009, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 31 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What did he do? How did he do that? Common..... I want to know. Anyone know what he did? Call John as Tuan taked to him on the phone about it... Mr. John BS with me too much man. I thought he's cool with me but I guess he's too busy. I called him and he told me he would call me back. I guess he's too busy to share. I'm gonna try to find out more about the process through someone else then. NO OFFENSE MR. JOHN. It's how I feel. You have to understand that Kim Hai just got there and this is thier first time together since his visit months ago... I will see if I can call Tuan and get the low down..	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-01 17:25:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 31 2009, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What did he do? How did he do that? Common..... I want to know. Anyone know what he did? Call John as Tuan taked to him on the phone about it...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-31 21:45:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos" The news about Tuan is very promising.. For those others Jerome and Huong.. it gives hope that one can stop the case from being sent back and get an additional interview to resolve any of the issues that The CO has... Tuan is getting the additional interview that will involve both the petitioner and beneficiary... He explained that this is so important to him that he is willing to drop everything to fly around the world to address the problems in person with the CO.. They granted his request... The fact that petitioners are going to the consulate and demanding to resolve the issues seems to be working... It seems that the case sits at the consulate for 30 days after the denial before they even think about sending it back.. This window could be what is needed to get another chance...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-31 19:28:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Brother, Dont forget that you must give them what they want before you get what you want... make sure you have given them everything available...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-31 09:30:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet... thanks scott, i just called them, wow i was so nervous asking for case status, i'm still shaking...my case is still under review they haven't gotten a decision yet...wheewwwwwwwww glad we still have hope.. That means that there is nothing in the system yet.. a good sign... go over everything that you submitted, any possible red flags and if you can address them with additional evidence get it together ASAP.. take it with you when you go.. Ask to speak to the CO handling the case when you go and do same as John did... They will talk to you.. the woman at the window wil try to get you to go away... be persistent but not rude... emphasize that your family is seperated and you are there to help them understand the relationship and explain anything they may be unclear about... you may need to talk to someone about the specifics of your case as they may see a red flag that you have missed...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 16:45:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 13:23:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Nov 2 2009, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I feel ya Huong. Just take it a day at a time hopefully things get better for you. It sucks you got the denial man, I truely felt that you are your wife are genuine. IF I was in your situation I would drop everything I had going on in the US and fly to Vietnam Immediately to go plead yourself to the consulate and demand the reason of the denial of your wife's visa. Family comes 1st before all things. But that is just me and how I would feel if I was in your situation.. Good Luck. He got all his information back, all the evidences they sent, the whole 9 yards, this means it has been sent back to the USA already. If they still had things this means they have not sent it back yet, but in his case they got everything back, not just the denial like Binh and I. Brother Huong, hang in there man. Think of it like this. They were wrong, you know that, people make mistakes, but you still have options, one option is to refile today, and you also know why they denied you the first time, you can front load all the proof that they said were reasons for denial, you also know that you can now make them take the other evidences. I know that another 7 plus months suck, but if this is the way it has to be it has to be. There is no use crying over split milk, it only makes you feel better why you are crying. Life is not over, you are a;live and so is your wife. In a perfect world, we would only need to make one phone ca;l;l and say " hey I want my wife here" and she would get a visa. But this is not a perfect world, you just have to realize that some people get denied wrongfully, and others get approved when they are being scammed. Some even sponge all the info from other people they can, ask them to write letters to congressmen and other things like this, then they try to offer advice to others saying they are good to go when we all know they got lucky, this is no reason to get mad at them, we know the truth, it is just luck of the draw, no matter who gets approved, they can NOT tell you how to do your case and GUARANTEE you a approval, all cases are DIFFERENT, this is the facts. You, Ly, and me were the unlucky ones this round, cuc happens bro. Hang in there, you do still have options, but for your options to be fully realized you need to try to be calm and as happy as possible. Look forward, not at the past. What you wanted 2 days before the denial you still want today, remain focused on your prize and eventually everything will fall into place. Housing in HCMC in some places is cheap, others is high, but in the countryside it is dirt cheap, with your translation cert, and your English skills, working in Vietnam will be easy for you, and if you are there for over 6 months you can do a direct consular file, and how can they then deny you the visa?? Stay strong bro, your wife, and family are depending on it Jerome VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-11-02 06:15:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet... thanks scott, i just called them, wow i was so nervous asking for case status, i'm still shaking...my case is still under review they haven't gotten a decision yet...wheewwwwwwwww glad we still have hope.. Not trying to keep you down, when I went in, they told me that they HAD not even looked at it since resubmission, then all at once we got denied and they said I had only made one trip. I think it was already denied while I was there, and they just did not want to tell be because they knew with me there it would be hard to argue their bs. I HOPE what they say to you is true, and hopefully if they are not telling the truth or the person you talked to did not really "LOOK" into it and it is sitting there approved waiting for someone to sign off and send the notice out. There are hundreds of positives if you just called and they said nothing new, just be ready if something changes over night, they might have been telling me the truth, and me going there made them think "Ohh sht" he is almost past his 90 days we better get on it, and then decide to make the wrong decision and deny us. Good luck. Jerome That would really sucks, if they treat everyone's case like that. I'm praying everyday and night. Its has only been over a month since my wife and i are together, it's been hard seems like a long time. I just can't imagine having to do a rebuttal and waiting again. Regardless i'm gonna keep my heads up and fight to the end. I really feel bad for all of those who just got denied, I keep on imagining how i would be if we got denied, and how my wife would be. Thanks all. Toan Thanks, I cant speak for the rest, but I know even with a denial my life is not over, i am still depressed, but that is expected. This just means instead of retirement, I will live in Vietnam that much sooner. The only real reason we wanted a visa for her was to get her citizenship was so that we could raise our children here, and give them a good education, then go back to Vietnam and retire there, but with citizenship she could come with me for visits to my family, and she really wanted to get to know my family. That sucks, but the real thing is we still know we will be together no matter what. Jerome Edited by jeromebinh, 30 October 2009 - 03:07 PM.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 15:06:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Call Department fo State and ask the status of the case.. 202-663-1225.. they will know if the consuate has decided yet... thanks scott, i just called them, wow i was so nervous asking for case status, i'm still shaking...my case is still under review they haven't gotten a decision yet...wheewwwwwwwww glad we still have hope.. Not trying to keep you down, when I went in, they told me that they HAD not even looked at it since resubmission, then all at once we got denied and they said I had only made one trip. I think it was already denied while I was there, and they just did not want to tell be because they knew with me there it would be hard to argue their bs. I HOPE what they say to you is true, and hopefully if they are not telling the truth or the person you talked to did not really "LOOK" into it and it is sitting there approved waiting for someone to sign off and send the notice out. There are hundreds of positives if you just called and they said nothing new, just be ready if something changes over night, they might have been telling me the truth, and me going there made them think "Ohh sht" he is almost past his 90 days we better get on it, and then decide to make the wrong decision and deny us. Good luck. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 14:46:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	What did they ask him? Or what was the reason they failed him this second time??? Wow...that must be really down right depressing.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-11-12 11:26:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	the price for tixs to vietnam has gone up. when I was looking at travelling for tet in sept or oct the price was ~600 now it's 1200!! My parents are going back for tet (1025) and my sister is going for christmas (1400)...	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-11-05 15:52:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I think he meant that for NQT1976...after he posted QUOTE this is a lesson for people whom ever think to marry a Vietnamese women. forget about bring a Vietnamese girl here because you can't afford a girl in US.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-11-03 12:00:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-11-03 11:56:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Nov 3 2009, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hey guys, i emailed the consulate asking if my wife can come in and give additional evidence, this is what they told me..... Dear Sir, Thank you for your inquiry. As we do not ask the beneficiary to submit additional information at this time, she will not be allowed to enter the Consulate. The beneficiary is asked to wait for our review on her case. If the beneficiary wishes to submit additional evidence in support of her case, she may do so by send it to us via mail. We will have It filed in her case file once we have received it. If you have further inquiries, please do not delete your original email and please include the complete case number (HCM XXXX-XXX-XXX) in all correspondence. Sincerely, ----so how did some of the vjers spouse got in and ask for case status?? Go to the exterior window if you want to inquire about the status of your case. It worked like a charm for me and a few others...my husband and John's wife actually found out we were approved this way... Edited by lindal24, 03 November 2009 - 09:57 AM.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-11-03 09:55:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied Additional interview granted for 11/11 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-31 21:42:00