ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresApproved!!! After 171 days (4104 hrs, 246240 min, etc...)
Congratulations! Now on to the "Live Happily Ever After" part!

Tom :dance: :dance:
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-12 16:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures5 1/2 Months of waiting... NOA2 finally!
Congratulations! I hope the rest of your process is MUCH faster.

Tom :time:
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 09:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIt seems...
I agree that October is a reasonable guess for the NOA2. But if you check the Immigration timelines for Phillipines interviews, I think you'll see that they are often 4-5 months after the NOA2. I hope you're right about when she comes to you. But I think Easter is a safer guess than Christmas. Good luck.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 20:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFINALLY I HAVE BEEN APPROVED
Congratulations! I bet it was a WONDERFUL day. :dance:
:dance: :dance:
Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 21:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI got my approval by mail
Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

It's interesting that we're still getting word of approvals from last week. September is shaping up as a VERY productive month for CSC. It's about time!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 13:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC Approval
Congratulations!! I hope your fast pace continues.

Tom

P.S. Thanks for filling out your time line.

:dance: :thumbs: :dance: :thumbs:
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-12 23:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAny approvals with July NOA1 Date



Hi Tom,

So on your I-797C (what we generally call NOA1), it shows:

RECEIVED DATE: 7/11/06
NOTICE DATE: 7/31/06

I would say your actual NOA1 date is 7/11/06 then. That's the date they should be using for choosing which file to adjudicate next if they're going in order. Obviously during the IMBRA RFE fiasco, they were not going in order, but once they resume orderliness, you should be 7/11/06.

That's interesting your dates are off by so many days. Mine was 24th and 25th. Only 1 day difference.


We're all in this boat (and on this board) together. Could we please have a civility, please?

My dates:
Sent 7/6
Delivered in Nebraska 7/8
Received date on I-797C with California receipt number 7/11
Notice date (for NOA1) 7/31
Received date on USCIS website 7/31.

(My check was cashed 7/31.)

At least for me, received date on the website and Notice date are the same.

I think any delays before that are just tough luck for the applicant.

SNAFU (I assume you all know what that stands for.)

Tom



I wish that you were right. I think it would be fairer if they went by 7/11. But I think the notice date (7/31) is the official date, since the NOA1, I-797C, is titled Notice of Action. Also, that is the date on the website.

Given the wide variance in processing, I suspect we'll never know which date they used. I am assuming 7/31. Part of this is because of the logic above. Partly because I think that better prepares me for the long wait ahead. But I very much hope that you're right.

Good luck on your processing too.



Tom


Tom, here is what the USCIS states on how they process petitions on their own website.

http://www.uscis.gov...nal/index.htm#E


Applications are stamped with the time and date of physical receipt, not the time and date they are actually opened.


If the RECEIVE date didn't matter--or is of no significance--then there is no need to even have a receive date, nor would they specifically state the above on their website. I firmly believe the receive date is the real NOA1 date they use. The NOTICE DATE is just the day that they actually got to your petition to issue you your NOA1 receipt. The is NOT the date your peitition was filed. Your petition was filed on the RECEIVE date and that date is recorded.

Either way, best wishes to us all!


Thanks. I couldn't get the link to work, but did find a press release that seems to support your view:

http://www.uscis.gov...delay_42706.pdf

I will contact my members of congress on this tomorrow. Since the web site lists the notice date as the received date, I suspect that is where their computer is putting me in the que. But if they follow their procedures, then it seems that they should be going by the received date. Trying to fix it is definitely worth the effort.

If you can give me the link you had in mind, I would appreciate it.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 23:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAny approvals with July NOA1 Date

Hi Tom,

So on your I-797C (what we generally call NOA1), it shows:

RECEIVED DATE: 7/11/06
NOTICE DATE: 7/31/06

I would say your actual NOA1 date is 7/11/06 then. That's the date they should be using for choosing which file to adjudicate next if they're going in order. Obviously during the IMBRA RFE fiasco, they were not going in order, but once they resume orderliness, you should be 7/11/06.

That's interesting your dates are off by so many days. Mine was 24th and 25th. Only 1 day difference.


We're all in this boat (and on this board) together. Could we please have a civility, please?

My dates:
Sent 7/6
Delivered in Nebraska 7/8
Received date on I-797C with California receipt number 7/11
Notice date (for NOA1) 7/31
Received date on USCIS website 7/31.

(My check was cashed 7/31.)

At least for me, received date on the website and Notice date are the same.

I think any delays before that are just tough luck for the applicant.

SNAFU (I assume you all know what that stands for.)

Tom



I wish that you were right. I think it would be fairer if they went by 7/11. But I think the notice date (7/31) is the official date, since the NOA1, I-797C, is titled Notice of Action. Also, that is the date on the website.

Given the wide variance in processing, I suspect we'll never know which date they used. I am assuming 7/31. Part of this is because of the logic above. Partly because I think that better prepares me for the long wait ahead. But I very much hope that you're right.

Good luck on your processing too.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 21:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAny approvals with July NOA1 Date
We're all in this boat (and on this board) together. Could we please have a civility, please?

My dates:
Sent 7/6
Delivered in Nebraska 7/8
Received date on I-797C with California receipt number 7/11
Notice date (for NOA1) 7/31
Received date on USCIS website 7/31.

(My check was cashed 7/31.)

At least for me, received date on the website and Notice date are the same.

I think any delays before that are just tough luck for the applicant.

SNAFU (I assume you all know what that stands for.)

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-13 20:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat is a NOA
Welcome. I hope your wait if far shorter than the poor March/April people.

It would be helpful to others if you fill out your timeline. Go to My Assistant, and follow the link. That will allow the veterans to give you more accurate advice. And it will help those of us who generate statistics for the benefit of all.

Good luck on your Visa Journey.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 11:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfo will not fit in blank on fillable form
I sometimes switched to a smaller font to squeeze everything into one line. Why their forms don't allow using two lines when the form has room is beyond me.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 10:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations, especially for a March person who has waited FAR too long!

:dance: :dance:

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 11:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA2 Approved! Yippy
Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

Is it just me, or is California seeming to be even MORE random (if that is possible)? :bonk: :bonk:

While I'm happy for the June folks, I REALLY wish they'd wrap up the March, April and May folks NOW.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA2 approved whats next?


once the I-129F is approved ( receive NOA2) whats next!!! :help:

Check my signature. There is some good information for you that could help.

Cheers!!!

Sheriff Uling

NOTE: I still have a $40 virtual bet that jabree will receive her NOA2 in 7 business days!


I expect and hope that you win the bet. On the other hand, I hope that your best is with jabree, so that she wins either way.

Tom

once the I-129F is approved ( receive NOA2) whats next!!! :help:



Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

Thanks for updating your timeline. The group of 9/11 approvals keeps growing!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 12:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWorried my NOA2 got stuck or lost in CIS

I am very worried now that they lost our petition in CA USCIS after approval. We got email notification on NOA 2 on Aug 24. We still have not received an actual letter and NCA do not have our case. People who has NOA2 after us already got the case number and their petition has been forwarded to the embassy. What should I do? Should I just wait?


While there are a few CSC approved after you who have NVC dates, there are many more with NOA2 dates before you who still are not reported NVC dates. This is a travesty. A process that should be a few days has turned into a wait of a month or more. We should ALL be contacting our members of Congress, pointing this out as one more example of a broken system.

As to what you should do - I'm sorry, but I don't have a good answer.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 19:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresdate question
There are other ways. Are there credit card records, showing purchases of plane tickets? Is your fiance a member of airline frequent flyer clubs? If so, then the airline can probably document travel dates. Also, all that is required is one visit within the last two years. More is nice, but not necessary.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 19:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFinally my NO2!!!!
Congratulations! Now you'll both have a GREAT weekend. :dance: :dance:

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 11:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFor NOOBS: Why processing is taking longer lately
You forgot one point.

They only go to their mailbox once a week.

On Tuesday. :jest: :bonk: :jest: :bonk:

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-16 08:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresApproved...and some questions...
Congratualtions! It's good to know that there is some action at CSC. It's not YOUR fault that they seem to pick files in a random fashion.

Good luck with the rest of your journey.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-16 13:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC Processing Times?? Are they just an estimate??
Sorry, but the dates that CSC posts are NOT estimates. They are purely mechanical - 6 months before the date the "estimate" was given. The only meaning it has is that it allows CSC to ignore all questions until they've had the application for 6 months past the NOA1 date.

In order to estimate the date for an NOA2, the first step is to fill in your timeline (My Assistant, then edit timeline). Once you do that, the VJ computer will give you an estimate, based on the time it took for recent approvals. I expect that this estimate is too long, since it reflects many March, April and May folks who were help up by the IMBRA mess.

I think a better way to estimate is to look at their processing rate (CSC did 111 in August, and is on track for 130+ this month). Then look go to the immigration timelines tab, sort on NOA1 date, and see how many people are ahead of you. I post estimates weekly. My estimate last week was that March, April and May NOA1's would be cleared in September, and the June and July NOA1s would be cleared in October. Of course, this assumes that the rate stays the same (or better), and that they go in order. Neither is a sure thing.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-16 11:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow do i update my time line ???
Congratulations on your NoA2. :dance: :dance:

Thanks for updating your timeline.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 16:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC on pace to finish March, April, May this month

Tom,
Are you saying that people with August receipt dates could have approvals from USCIS by November? I'm new to this whole thing and trying to understand all the abbreviations, timelines, etc. I know nothing is a sure thing. Just wondering if I understand you correctly.

Thanks,
Maggie


Yes, that's my guess.

But I also agree with the prior post, saying that CSC is very unpredictable. I'm very happy for the June and July people who are getting approvals. But I really think it would be much more fair if they went in order by receipt date, or at least NOA1 date.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 23:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC on pace to finish March, April, May this month
So far this month, CSC has approved 71 NOA2's:

NOA1 date:
March 21
April 17
May 10
June 15
July 7
Aug. 1

Total 71

If they approve at the same rate, in order, then in the second half of Sept. they will clear:

March 21
April 22
May 28.

However, I note that almost 1/3 of their September approvals are June and July folks.

In October they would clear 142 (maybe more with 2 extra work days):
May 2 (done)
June 58 (done)
July 70 (done)
Aug. 12

This is SUBSTANTIALLY faster than the VJ estimate.

In Nov. they would clear 142:
Aug. 68 (with NOA1) plus 7 (no NOA1 yet)
Sept. 17 with NOA1 plus 7 (no NOA1 yet) so far this month.
If the number of Sept. applications stays small, they might even get into the October applications.

Tom

Edited by TomYu, 17 September 2006 - 07:06 PM.

TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 19:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIT FINALLY HAPPENED!!!
Congratulations! :yes: :yes:

Great to see another April approval.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 23:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIt finaly Happend - NOA2
Congratulations! :dance: :dance: :dance:

I hoe the rest of your journey is smooth.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 18:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresEvidence of travel if you didn't save receipts

I've successfully submitted a church bulletin from a local church in the country I visited. It had the
Sunday's date, the service schedule, and other unique information such as current pastor, lay leaders, ect. to identify its origin in country. It would be impossible to duplicate outside of the country.

Most churches give these out before the services.


This is just an educated guess, but I very much doubt this would help. While this would be good evidence that there was a service, it is NOT evidence that you were there! A fiance could just mail it to you. Sorry.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-18 13:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresEvidence of travel if you didn't save receipts
I've seen this question twice in recent days in different contexts. Here are some additional/alternative ways to show meeting:

- You bought the plane tickets. How? If check, you may have the cancelled check, or be able to get an image. Also, you may be able to get a copy of the invoice from whomever sold it.

- If you paid by credit card, you can probably get a copy of the credit card statement. And sometimes these statements list the itinerary.

- You flew internationally - thousands of frequent flyer miles. You do all belong to at least one or two frequent flyer programs, right? Please say yes! If so, then the frequent flyer program has a record of your flight - date, flight number, all that good stuff!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-16 08:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI don't believe this. I have NOA2 from CSC in two months!
Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

Ours is not to reason why (re CSC). But we can be thankful when they do things right.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-18 23:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAttn Sep 7 NOA2

I haven't even received the hard copy of the NOA2 yet. And the NVC does not have our case yet. Seems like CSC is waiting to send a batch - maybe at the end of the month?


You may be right. But that would be REALLY terrible. How long does it take to put a bunch of approvals in a box and ship them?

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 19:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat a suprise
Way to Go! Congratulations. :dance: :dance:

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 18:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMY CSC NOA2 approval in under 60 days.
Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

I'm VERY glad when my estimates turn out to be much too conservative. I wish that for everyone!

I also appreciate your comments about the poor folks who have been waiting much too long at CSC.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-18 23:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOhh God!!! We just got the email....
Way to go!

Now - go! Go! GO!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 21:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOh~My God...I got approved.
Congratulations! :dance: :dance:

Good to see another approval for the March/April/May people! I'm still rooting for the rest of you to get yours this month!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 18:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOh my God, That hurt.
Congratulations!!

Maybe we can have a party in Guangzhou, or in Shanghai or Beijing and all fly out together!

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 21:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC and VSC data - graphs and charts

Tom,

You wish this without knowing why the March, April, and May petitions have not yet been completed? Those older petitions are likely waiting on something, could be any number of things - e.g. IBIS hits, outstanding RFEs, follow-up on IMBRA issues - before they can be completed. USCIS staff should kick back and wait, and let newer petitions that can be acted on sit idle in the meantime?

Yodrak

....

While I may personally benefit from CSC approving June and July apps before they are done with March, April and May, I am not happy about it. I wish they would go in order!

Tom


Not at all! But I get the sense from Michelle, Jabree and several others that they have done everything they should, and that there is no evidence that CSC is even looking at their files. Also, suppose that what you say is true, that EVERY March, April and May file is waiting for something. Then CSC should be doing the June ones next. Again many of those people show no evidence of activity. That's just not fair.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-20 05:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC and VSC data - graphs and charts

If you must be trying to start a riot or revolt, then GOOD JOB!!! Cheers!!! - Sheriff Uling


I certainly hope so! :protest: :protest: :ranting: :ranting:

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-18 09:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCSC and VSC data - graphs and charts
Here are the CSC and VSC data and graphs that I use to generate my estimates as a Word file. Attached File  VJ_Data_Sept_17_2006.doc   89KB   45 downloads

These graphs and charts may be a good complement to Gary's work if you talk with a Member of Congress.

Among the highlights:
June NOA1's
CSC approved 37 39% waiting 58 61%
VSC approved 29 78% waiting 8 22%

July NOA1's
CSC approved 9 11% waiting 70 89%
VSC approved 13 72% waiting 5 28%

August NOA1's
CSC approved 2 2% waiting 80 98%
VSC approved 17 71% waiting 7 29%

Also waiting at CSC:
March 21 16%
April 22 23%
May 30 30%

I will update this again about Oct. 1.

While I may personally benefit from CSC approving June and July apps before they are done with March, April and May, I am not happy about it. I wish they would go in order!

Tom

Edited by TomYu, 17 September 2006 - 11:37 PM.

TomYuMaleChina2006-09-17 23:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNo 2 finally received aproval
Congratulations on your NOA2. :thumbs: :thumbs:

I use the following Chinese website for more complete information on Guangzhou processing times. Recently 4 1/2 to 6 months from NOA2 (P2 on the page below) to Interview is common. Recently the NOA2-NVC shipment-consulate receipt time has stretched from a couple of weeks to as much as 2-3 months, especially for China. I would say Easter or Memorial Day is more likely for the interview than Christmas. I hope I'm wrong, as I'm a month or two behind you. But I don't want you buying plane tickets for two with expectations that may well be too optimistic.

Good luck from here on!

http://001family.001.../interviews.asp

Tom

Edited by TomYu, 15 September 2006 - 07:50 PM.

TomYuMaleChina2006-09-15 19:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJuly approvals in one fell swoop
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Sounds reasonable to me and I hope you are right. But it is CSC so who knows?

Hope your NOA2 is just around the corner!
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Thanks! But even if they are doing a bunch of folks with the new forms to get their average down, the June people deserve to go first! (And of course, I think they should go in order and clear March, then April, then May.) I'm willing to wait my turn. But I'm sure not happy about having newer applications being processed before mine.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-20 05:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJuly approvals in one fell swoop
Just a guess, but here goes.

Suppose CSC gets evaluated on average approval time, just as VJ measures. They've approved lots of March/April/May people in the last few weeks, as they should. But it means their average wait unitl approval time has gone up dramatically, especially compared to Vermont. How to get it down fast? Approve some of the straight forward July applicaitons on the new forms.

Then once their measurement date passes (who knows when), maybe they'll go back to the NOA1 date, they way they should have.

The idea of putting new staff on straight forward cases also sounds reasonable to me.

Tom
TomYuMaleChina2006-09-19 19:02:00