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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (MMW @ Feb 7 2009, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have put myself in her mind and possible way of thinking and the conclusion i can see happening is that yes the Annulment wasn't legally concluded per records. but in her mind i am getting the impression that she believed since the case was finished just not documented that she was indeed single. There is a difference between this line of thinking and knowingly committing an act of deception so as my last post stated I dont have the documents in front of me to pass judgment and my rational way of thinking may not have been hers. I dont know anyone that at first filing a petition or application is an expert like some here seem to think they are. We are human and capable of mistakes and impulsive acts. innocent.gif

I read the instructions...and regardless...i would know im not single if my FIRST MARRIAGE WAS STILL VALID and had not ended. And i really have a hard time believing she actually thought she was free to marry someone else just bc she was not living with her current husband and filed the annulment. But then again...ppl surprise me everyday. wacko.gif

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QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 6 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No getting emotional here. She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final..and hoped it would be before the interview. Therefore...they could not have put it on the application as there was no annulment date...and if they did...they made up a date...either is still fraud...your not getting the point here...SHE ALREADY ADMITTED THEY FILED THE K1 KNOWING THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO MARRY...and it clearly states to file the K1 you HAVE to be legal to marry...not legal to marry sometime in the middle of the process...but BEFORE you file the petition...and again..it doesnt matter what was put there...there was no annulment date before they filed, so if a date was put, it was a false date, therefore fraud..and if left blank, it was fraud...as they did not indicate a past marriage when there was one...actually it was still a current marriage...still fraud as she or he was not legal to marry therefore not elegible to file the petition in the first place. The denial was correctly given...and yes giving false information on a government document with the K1 can result in a lifetime ban...and YES they will be informed that if they are given the ban...its common sense that they would be given that information.
NO ONE on this thread needs to know exactly what they put on the application...the fact that she has already admitted that they filed the petition before being legal to marry is knowing enough that whatever they wrote on the application or left it blank was fraud.

Stop.making.sense ! headbonk.gif

I know...i think its confusing ppl innocent.gif

The rules/regs are very clear. The applicant committed fraud and the Visa is denied.
I've not read all the earlier posts ... did the USC willfully hide the truth or did the foreign bride hide the truth from the USC when the documents were filed?

Well...not sure if the USC knew and lied on the petition....however the foreign bride lied on the G-325..all 4 of them

Must be nice to believel the gubbermint doesn't care if you lie on forms. Well as Gomer Pyle once said ... "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise"

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SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
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QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 6 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No getting emotional here. She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final..and hoped it would be before the interview. Therefore...they could not have put it on the application as there was no annulment date...and if they did...they made up a date...either is still fraud...your not getting the point here...SHE ALREADY ADMITTED THEY FILED THE K1 KNOWING THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO MARRY...and it clearly states to file the K1 you HAVE to be legal to marry...not legal to marry sometime in the middle of the process...but BEFORE you file the petition...and again..it doesnt matter what was put there...there was no annulment date before they filed, so if a date was put, it was a false date, therefore fraud..and if left blank, it was fraud...as they did not indicate a past marriage when there was one...actually it was still a current marriage...still fraud as she or he was not legal to marry therefore not elegible to file the petition in the first place. The denial was correctly given...and yes giving false information on a government document with the K1 can result in a lifetime ban...and YES they will be informed that if they are given the ban...its common sense that they would be given that information.
NO ONE on this thread needs to know exactly what they put on the application...the fact that she has already admitted that they filed the petition before being legal to marry is knowing enough that whatever they wrote on the application or left it blank was fraud.

Stop.making.sense ! headbonk.gif

I know...i think its confusing ppl innocent.gif

The rules/regs are very clear. The applicant committed fraud and the Visa is denied.
I've not read all the earlier posts ... did the USC willfully hide the truth or did the foreign bride hide the truth from the USC when the documents were filed?

Well...not sure if the USC knew and lied on the petition....however the foreign bride lied on the G-325..all 4 of them
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (Natty Bumppo @ Feb 7 2009, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 6 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No getting emotional here. She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final..and hoped it would be before the interview. Therefore...they could not have put it on the application as there was no annulment date...and if they did...they made up a date...either is still fraud...your not getting the point here...SHE ALREADY ADMITTED THEY FILED THE K1 KNOWING THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO MARRY...and it clearly states to file the K1 you HAVE to be legal to marry...not legal to marry sometime in the middle of the process...but BEFORE you file the petition...and again..it doesnt matter what was put there...there was no annulment date before they filed, so if a date was put, it was a false date, therefore fraud..and if left blank, it was fraud...as they did not indicate a past marriage when there was one...actually it was still a current marriage...still fraud as she or he was not legal to marry therefore not elegible to file the petition in the first place. The denial was correctly given...and yes giving false information on a government document with the K1 can result in a lifetime ban...and YES they will be informed that if they are given the ban...its common sense that they would be given that information.
NO ONE on this thread needs to know exactly what they put on the application...the fact that she has already admitted that they filed the petition before being legal to marry is knowing enough that whatever they wrote on the application or left it blank was fraud.

Stop.making.sense ! headbonk.gif

I know...i think its confusing ppl innocent.gif
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
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QUOTE (uscandual @ Feb 6 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sinergy says: She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final.

Sinergy, I defy you to show us explicitly where she says that. Sure, it's very logical to conclude from what she has told us that this was her state of mind. .......and so on snipped.


Familiarity with the forms and process is enough to know they willfully misrepresented the facts. If you want to prove it to yourself, put yourself in the scenario. You're the US Citizen, you know your fiance is going through an annullment proceding, so you know she's married. You sit down to fill out the I-129F. Actually start filling it out. Get to section six on the beneficiary side. How do you answer the marital status? Go to section 10. How do you answer? If you tell the truth, the petition cannot possiblly be approved, so you must lie in section 6 and 10 to get an approved petition because you know your fiance is married.

Now put yourself in the foreign fiance's shoes and go through the G325a knowing you have a husband and see if you can fill out the G325a in a way that it can be approved without lying. Now sit down and write and sign a letter stating you are free to marry..... Then fast forward to the visa applications, DS 156/157/230. Try filling those out knowing you're married applying for a fiance visa. Can you do it without lying?

That's why we know they shot themselves in the heart over and over again before the interview becaue if they didn't, there never would have been an interview.

exactly!!!!
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
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QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 7 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No getting emotional here. She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final..and hoped it would be before the interview. Therefore...they could not have put it on the application as there was no annulment date...and if they did...they made up a date...either is still fraud...your not getting the point here...SHE ALREADY ADMITTED THEY FILED THE K1 KNOWING THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO MARRY...and it clearly states to file the K1 you HAVE to be legal to marry...not legal to marry sometime in the middle of the process...but BEFORE you file the petition...and again..it doesnt matter what was put there...there was no annulment date before they filed, so if a date was put, it was a false date, therefore fraud..and if left blank, it was fraud...as they did not indicate a past marriage when there was one...actually it was still a current marriage...still fraud as she or he was not legal to marry therefore not elegible to file the petition in the first place. The denial was correctly given...and yes giving false information on a government document with the K1 can result in a lifetime ban...and YES they will be informed that if they are given the ban...its common sense that they would be given that information.
NO ONE on this thread needs to know exactly what they put on the application...the fact that she has already admitted that they filed the petition before being legal to marry is knowing enough that whatever they wrote on the application or left it blank was fraud.


Sinergy says: She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final.

Sinergy, I defy you to show us explicitly where she says that. Sure, it's very logical to conclude from what she has told us that this was her state of mind. For all I know, this is indeed the case. But neither you nor I know that, and certainly we are in no position to 'prove' it (the burden needed if we are to talk here of fraud). You write the word 'knowing', somehow implying you know what was in her head at that time. You do not. And I already gave one scenario, perhaps implausible, in which it could be possible to complete a I-129F and supporting documentation while honestly believing you are already free to remarry, when in fact you are not, and only discover that fact later after filing the petition.

Look, people can say fraud, fraud, fraud all day long till the cows come home. That may, or may not , be the case here.
Disclosure: I am not a lawyer. Everything I know about US Law I learned from TV dramas.

The assertion that this case, as presented by the OP, MUST be fraud, because they MUST have lied on the application .... frankly none of us are in a position to judge.
The crime, if one was in fact committed here, is perjury. And the legal standard to prove perjury is not easy. You need to prove two things: (a) that the accused actually misrepresented a relevant factual matter and (b ) that he/she did so KNOWINGLY. In other words - you need to prove intent. And that means you need to demonstrate the state of mind AT THE TIME the misrepresentation was made.

That's a fairly difficult thing to do. How do you really know someone's state of mind? Especially retroactively, what they thought last year? And how can you prove it? In a court, to a jury? Beyond reasonable doubt? In any such proceeding the USC will benefit from full protection of US law and will be considered innocent till proven guilty. The onus will be on the state to make a case, I doubt they would bother trying. I seriously doubt the USC faces a real jeopardy of criminal charges here, in federal court. But it is entirely possible for USCIS to deny any further immigration benefits - that they can clearly do without needing to prove perjury.

Here would be my advice to the OP:

IF you have additional information which you have not shared with us on this message board, which would clearly show that you did not have any misrepresentation of your ability to marry when you filed your petition
AND IF you are willing to hire an experienced immigration lawyer, who can present this additional information to the USCIS and thus demonstrate that you should be given a second opportunity to file for benefits
THEN .... you should go for it (i.e. file a new petition, once you have a confirmed annulment in your hands)

HOWEVER
if you know in your heart of hearts that you were trying to game the system on your first attempt, and that you in fact knew you were misrepresenting your marital status,
THEN
my advice would be RUN, don't walk, as fast as you can away from your filing, from the USCIS and from any thoughts of living in America. Thank your lucky stars that at this moment you are a free person, your fiance is a free person, and the worst case scenario right now is you can't live in America. It can be worse, and if you raise attention to yourself by filing again, you may find out how much worse it could be.

read the thread...not just the last page...she says they filed and hoped to have the annulment before the interview...i dont think i need to spell that out any more clear smile.gif

perjury on a US government form for IMMIGRATION...is fraud

quoted from the VERY FIRST POST:
"i am not lucky like the usually people who got there chance to have a visa...

My Problem is i have my previous marriage before and now i am waiting for my decisions to come this month... But the woman in consul whose interviewing me today she's was denying my papers... she never give me a consideration to wait my decision this month..."

uh no...im still puzzled how the OP thought the consulate would actually say " well you were legally supossed to be legal to marry BEFORE you filed the petition for fiance visa...doing so not being legal to marry is fraud...but sure ill go ahead and WAIT til your annulment is final this month and re-interview you" really.....im almost convinced that it was more trying to get around the K1 requirments and hoping to get over...as the OP states they need advice as they are not as lucky as most of us to get their visa.

Edited by Sinergy, 07 February 2009 - 01:39 AM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Feb 7 2009, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 6 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It clearly states on the application to LIST ALL MARRIAGES AND DIVORCES WITH DATES!!! there is no misunderstanding that. You either enter it in correctly or you knowingly leave it blank bc you are afraid of a denial.
Not to mention it is the USC that fills out the application...not the fiance in another country. And i seriously doubt he misunderstood the instructions in that section.

Its already been admitted that they HOPED the divorse was final BEFORE the interview...therefore they petitioned for the K1 knowing one of them was not LEGAL to marry...therefore commiting visa fraud. And YES it is a lifetime ban. It can also be imprisonment and or a fine.


For the sake of accuracy, this USC filled out no applications. He filled out and signed a petition. Later the foreign fiance filled out and signed visa applications. Petition, G325a, and two or more visa applications all contained lies.

yes yes petition...and i agree with the rest
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (faryan @ Feb 7 2009, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Anna and Jeff @ Feb 7 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is the purpose of the interview? Isn't it to ensure everything on the forms was correctly entered, all the papers are there, the marriage/engagement is genuine. We are not lawyers and I personally have had a tax return which I thought was perfect come back with a question. Did I commit fraud because I misunderstood the wording on my 1040? She also has a language barrier to overcome although I would guess her fiance did more than just send in the papers.

I respect the advice given here I truly do think there is some jumping to conclusions here. We do not know what happened during the interview. Did she lie to the questions asked or did she volunteer that her divorce was not final asking what she should do? If she was questioning the proper procedures she had confusion which is quite different from deception. At least she doesn't belong to the MILF.

How does someone find out their fiance or wife is "banned for life" anyways?



Yes, we do not know what happened during the interview. What we know is what she told us. She did not have her final divorce decree during her interview. Fullstop. At that point, she doesnt need lie or make up excuses. She simply did not have the most important paper then. No decree, perhaps also means no CENOMAR. Not having them means CO saying no visa.

Now, one thing that we all can be sure of is that the OP has not disclose any information to us as to whether she belongs to a recognised rebel group like MILF or a terrorist group like some kidnap-for-ransom groups in PI wink.gif

As to how she can find out if she has been "banned for life" or not, not really sure other than contacting USCIS, perhaps she would really know after she file again.

agreed. However, at the point, some of the pinyas are going to stick up for her regardless...and anyone who does, clearly didnt read the instructions for the K1 themselves.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 01:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (rin and john @ Feb 7 2009, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK, if the anullment was finished before the interview, perhaps a visa could be issued. Depends on the interpretation of anullment versus divorce.

An annulment is a legal procedure for declaring a marriage null and void. Unlike divorce, it is retroactive: an annulled marriage is considered never to have existed. Therefore, if the anullment is complete and retroactive, she would have been free to marry at the time of the petition being filed. However, if the anullment was not complete by the interview date, then the petition was fraudulent.

The annulment would have HAD to been complete BEFORE they even filed the petition. Hence the whole giving a statement you are legal to marry when you even file the petition. If you are still married (and you are until the annulment is final) you can not file the fiance visa...and if you do while still married it is concidered lieing on the application and it is fraud.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 00:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (Anna and Jeff @ Feb 7 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sinergy @ Feb 6 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It clearly states on the application to LIST ALL MARRIAGES AND DIVORCES WITH DATES!!! there is no misunderstanding that. You either enter it in correctly or you knowingly leave it blank bc you are afraid of a denial.
Not to mention it is the USC that fills out the application...not the fiance in another country. And i seriously doubt he misunderstood the instructions in that section.

Its already been admitted that they HOPED the divorse was final BEFORE the interview...therefore they petitioned for the K1 knowing one of them was not LEGAL to marry...therefore commiting visa fraud. And YES it is a lifetime ban. It can also be imprisonment and or a fine.


There is no need to get so emotional. You did not see her application and were not at the interview. You are filling in the blanks on her form and jumping to conclusions. What if she put down the marriage and said divorced thinking the requirement was to be divorced when the visa was issued. That is what someone else in this thread thought and was corrected.

I still have the question, how can she or her fiance find out if is now "banned for life"?

No getting emotional here. She already stated that they filed the K1 knowing the annulment was not final..and hoped it would be before the interview. Therefore...they could not have put it on the application as there was no annulment date...and if they did...they made up a date...either is still fraud...your not getting the point here...SHE ALREADY ADMITTED THEY FILED THE K1 KNOWING THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO MARRY...and it clearly states to file the K1 you HAVE to be legal to marry...not legal to marry sometime in the middle of the process...but BEFORE you file the petition...and again..it doesnt matter what was put there...there was no annulment date before they filed, so if a date was put, it was a false date, therefore fraud..and if left blank, it was fraud...as they did not indicate a past marriage when there was one...actually it was still a current marriage...still fraud as she or he was not legal to marry therefore not elegible to file the petition in the first place. The denial was correctly given...and yes giving false information on a government document with the K1 can result in a lifetime ban...and YES they will be informed that if they are given the ban...its common sense that they would be given that information.
NO ONE on this thread needs to know exactly what they put on the application...the fact that she has already admitted that they filed the petition before being legal to marry is knowing enough that whatever they wrote on the application or left it blank was fraud.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 00:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
It clearly states on the application to LIST ALL MARRIAGES AND DIVORCES WITH DATES!!! there is no misunderstanding that. You either enter it in correctly or you knowingly leave it blank bc you are afraid of a denial.
Not to mention it is the USC that fills out the application...not the fiance in another country. And i seriously doubt he misunderstood the instructions in that section.

Its already been admitted that they HOPED the divorse was final BEFORE the interview...therefore they petitioned for the K1 knowing one of them was not LEGAL to marry...therefore commiting visa fraud. And YES it is a lifetime ban. It can also be imprisonment and or a fine.

Edited by Sinergy, 07 February 2009 - 12:16 AM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 00:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (sus @ Feb 6 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Minya's wife @ Feb 6 2009, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (jasman0717 @ Feb 6 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (sus @ Feb 6 2009, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your only option is to file a new petition once your divorce is final - The criteria for the K1 clearly states that you have to be free and legally able to marry BEFORE you apply.



You must be legally able to marry upon filing the petition



Basically - you restated what I already stated, did you not? I wasn't thinking along the lines of what must have been checked on the initial petition, if you notice, that conversation came AFTER my post - It amazes me how nitpicky people can get on this board.


And it amazes me how people think they know much more than they actually do. The bolded section of your initial post is incorrect. The OP, or anyone in said situation cannot file again...forever. This site is not just about helping those presently going through immigration, but 'future generations' as well.
Jasman was doing just that by stating a K-1 requirement a different way, for the sake of posterity...so anyone key-word searching the treads will be informed. Nothing wrong w/ that.

-P


Aren't you assuming you know more than you actually do? Did the OP say that they checked that they were divorced on their original petition? If the person stated that they were divorced, then yes, they lied and committed fraud - But until the OP comes back and states yes, they did that, or no - It just slipped through (something that can happen and does happen) - This entire thread is full of assumptions - Based on the judgmental tone of this thread, I would be surprised if the OP even came back - people make mistakes, it happens - But if we are here to HELP people than we need to remove the judgment - especially when the specific facts have been assumed by everyone here.

AGAIN...even if they purposly left that part blank...knowing the divorse was not final....ITS A LIE AND FRAUD....and yes...results in a LIFETIME BAN...no point in fighting it...or refile. And trust me...(for the bolded) she knows enough...we all know enough to say...either way they commited a lie which is fraud on their application and resulted in a denial. Even though USCIS didnt catch it...the consult was smart enough to deny it.

Id love to know what their hurry was...smells funny to me whistling.gif

Edited by Sinergy, 07 February 2009 - 12:04 AM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-07 00:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
QUOTE (payxibka @ Feb 6 2009, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Feb 6 2009, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We don't know exactly what was on the I-129F, only that the marital status was misrepresented in sections 6 and 10 of the I-129F as well as in the letter(s) of intent. Otherwise the petition would never have been approved.


True, and that is why no "boxes" are to be left blank. Negligent omission of pertinent fact ,when this information is specifically requested, is or could be easily classified as misrepresentation. Ignorance of the law is never a defense.

Misrepresentation defined:

an intentionally or sometimes negligently false representation made verbally, by conduct, or sometimes by nondisclosure or concealment and often for the purpose of deceiving, defrauding, or causing another to rely on it detrimentally.

In the end, it is not for us to decide, but the authorities whose job it is to administer US immigration law.

Also if the boxes were left blank...knowingly the annulment wasnt final...thats lieing and fraudulent...as well as lieing and saying the marriage was already annuled...either way...they lied.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-06 23:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresGot denied on my interview b'coz of not having my decision yet at the court from my previous marriage
wow...even if the annulment decree was in before the interview it would still be denied...as the annulment was dated AFTER the K1 was filed.

im wondering how ppl think they can get away with petitioning before legally being able to remarry.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-06 23:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOK, K1 Petition was approved, but Now I don't want to use it
QUOTE (Mrs.Walker @ Mar 12 2009, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (itzallgood @ Mar 11 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I even had a USEM Manila Embassy Visa interview scheduled. I did call and cancel the Embassy interview. I sent (non-notarized) duplicate explanation letters to the USCIS, NVC and USEM . Since the K1 petition was already approved, cancellation is not applicable, right?

I think I met a better, more responsible Filipina, and will likely want to petition her instead. I will probably go visit her in Phils in 2 months. Too many red flags of a train wreck on the first girl, So I had to cut my losses with her and move on!

Will my previous K1 petition slow down the process of getting the NOA1 on a new petition? I do expect RFE initially for an IMBRA waiver, but beyond that, will my new petition be held up? Thanks for your input. I was reading the recent threads on cancelling K1 Petitions not yet approved, but since mine was approved for a girl I no longer want, I am unclear how this effects a new K1. Thank you for your responses. biggrin.gif

Your Sick!!

please read a page back, it has already been adv that personal attacks and insults will not be tolerated.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-12 08:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOK, K1 Petition was approved, but Now I don't want to use it
wow, certainly sorry to hear that. But wouldnt you want to have some "you" time before jumping into another relationship so quickly. Maybe getting to know this new girl a little more. just a thought.

QUOTE (itzallgood @ Mar 11 2009, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you must know, she actually defrauded me at the last minute, and ran away with many hundreds of dollars that were to be used to pay for visa and travel related expenses. She was very dishonest and irresponsible to me, and later wanted to get back together with me. Irresponsible red flag? I thought it was a hard warning not to continue marriage plans with her.



QUOTE (GueraKristina @ Mar 11 2009, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think I met a better, more responsible Filipina, and will likely want to petition her instead. I will probably go visit her in Phils in 2 months. Too many red flags of a train wreck on the first girl, So I had to cut my losses with her and move on!



^^^^Are ya serious??? You make it sound like the Philipeans (sp?) is just a processing plant that you can just grab a girl and dispose of her when your not interested any more. You met a better more responsible Flipina, umm... you should have been more sure about ur decision the first time before you wasted her time, your time, and that of the people that process your case b/c now your slowing down people that are REALLY in love and that REALLY want to be together. I would say dont bother wasting your time on the next girl, sounds like you might fall out of interest with her too. Unless you have an unknown situation that can clear some of my misconseptions up, i suggest you quit clogging up the immigration process for those who fell in love with foreigners and have good intentions of staying with them for their whole lives.



SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-11 23:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresOK, K1 Petition was approved, but Now I don't want to use it
wow, sounds like a shopping regret to me. blink.gif

Edited by Sinergy, 11 March 2009 - 09:52 PM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-11 21:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresshould my fiancee update K1, Today, 08:06 AM
QUOTE (HaoVN @ Mar 19 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello folks,

I'm Vietnamese and now live in HCMC.
My fiancee, who is American, helped me to apply for K1 visa in December 9, 2008.
Then he only received NOA1 Receipt.
I've heard from an expert travel agent that normally, after receiving NOA1 Receipt, we'll receive NOA2 approval 3 weeks later. Is it right? I still wonder ... whether my fiancee should update my K1 on our engagement party with his second time of visitting VN. Just b/c now we dont have any NOA2 approval.

My fiancee supposed that It's better for me to tell more detail abt our relationship timeline as engagement... on my interview day at embassy in HCMC.

Therefore, he didnt call the NOA office's phone which number is 800 375 5283 yet.

Hey, help me pls to find out the better way to get it K1.

Thanks,


Hao

the exact time line given by USCIS is 90-120 days. Ppl only wish it was 3 weeks
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-19 22:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHomeland Security letter..NOA1???
QUOTE (Karin und Otto @ Mar 20 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (hargis @ Mar 20 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A wise man boast of God, not his goods.

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yea i second that smilie
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-20 15:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshelp...please
some calling card companies keep records of your calls. Call them and ask. I used calling cards as well, and the company i used had all my call records. All i did was give the number i called from, and the number i used on the card, and they pulled the record up.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-20 15:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTranslation required of her first Marriage Certificate?
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QUOTE (Dave-n-Oksana @ Mar 25 2009, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all.

My Fiancee and I are filing for the K-1 and I have read the guides and a bit confused about one the requirements that I hope someone more knowledgible than me can clear up.

I know that we will need to have her divorce decree translated but the guides say also any documents that identify a name change. She did not change her name back when she divorced, but I was wondering if we would need to have her original marriage certificate translated?

Dave

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I think the OP is asking for advice, not ridicule
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-26 00:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPosting Safety at VisaJourney
I miss the ppl from this thread....they gave good visa info and worked together....they were good ppl, too bad most of them left sad.gif
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-02-20 21:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPosting Safety at VisaJourney
I have myself asked a few questions in prv msging, ive also answered a few questions in prv msging, but that 1% was just stuff i didnt feel confortable posting due to critisism and yes redicule, people can be cruel, there are some people who never post on here or give advice, but the minute you post something that they get an itch up the ####### about, they are critising you big time and yes can make you feel like poop, and at this moment in our lives its the last thing we want to feel. the other 99% of what i have to ask and say ill do it right here, but i would NEVER concider only a few people worth talking and asking things to, everyone on here gives awesome advice and opinions, its up to you to take it as bad or good.
SinergyFemaleRomania2006-03-31 10:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPregnant Fiancee in Philippines
QUOTE (itzallgood @ Apr 11 2009, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Leyla @ Apr 11 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (itzallgood @ Apr 11 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Leyla @ Apr 11 2009, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't use a kid to slow or speed up the process anyway. That is SOOOOOO not a good idea........


So please share what a MENA man does in a similar situation ranting33va.gif


Wow... hostile much?


We are hoping you will share your secrets about MENA man and how you tell him you dont want baby yet, so he wont get hostile at woman.

Please do not attack members period over something about their fiance/husbands, also this is a thread about birth control, not sharing secrets about anything with anyones SO.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-11 21:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat is a "Touch"?
It does take time sometimes to update the online status, however it IS reliable, and i would watch it. Its a good resource to your process and how things are going.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-08 09:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhen people receive their NOA....
QUOTE (picasso_760 @ Apr 13 2009, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've seen on some timelines that people have posted that they've received their NOA1... and a few days later have received "hardcopy." What is that? Does that mean you get an email or something first before receiving it in the mail?

If you sign up on https://egov.uscis.g.../jsps/index.jsp
you will see updates to your case, as in NOA1 and NOA2 or RFE (request further evidence)
the hardcopy is the paper NOA you recieve in snail mail
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-13 22:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresScared
Just keep in mind, the wait is long and lonely, but the end is a reward all in itself smile.gif
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-17 22:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurescost for K1
QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Apr 20 2009, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sinergy @ Apr 20 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Apr 19 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"if you have to ask, you can't afford it..."

(sorry - had to say it smile.gif )

Don't forget to include costs of mailing, visits, gifts, phone calls, etc...

it all adds up.

Thats not true...the op was just wondering the cost, doesnt mean they cant afford it. a bit judgmental.



see the smile.gif = joke.



QUOTE (Lisa and Ian @ Apr 20 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Sinergy @ Apr 19 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Apr 19 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"if you have to ask, you can't afford it..."

(sorry - had to say it smile.gif )

Don't forget to include costs of mailing, visits, gifts, phone calls, etc...

it all adds up.

Thats not true...the op was just wondering the cost, doesnt mean they cant afford it. a bit judgmental.


If you do Skype, then phone calls are reasonably free. Also, I don't see how gifts figure into the 129-f petition.



If you don't sweeten the pot for your benificiary, they may not want to marry you smile.gif

a smile.gif doesnt make it a joke.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-20 13:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurescost for K1
QUOTE (Bobby_Umit @ Apr 19 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"if you have to ask, you can't afford it..."

(sorry - had to say it smile.gif )

Don't forget to include costs of mailing, visits, gifts, phone calls, etc...

it all adds up.

Thats not true...the op was just wondering the cost, doesnt mean they cant afford it. a bit judgmental.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-04-19 23:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDivorce & Petition Fears
My ex husband and I were seperated for almost 10 yrs...no divorse bc he refused to sign the papers. I left him bc of physical abuse on me, and he couldnt accept the fact i left actually he was mad i left and sd as punishment he wouldnt let me have my divorse...i filed 21 times until he finally signed. I got my divorse 1 month before sending in the petition for Ed. All went well.

Edited by Sinergy, 30 January 2009 - 11:17 AM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2009-01-30 11:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
honestly this thread should be closed, as all its going to do is continue to go DOWN
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-26 10:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (LisaD @ Oct 25 2007, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, let's do it this way.

Have the non-USC go into the interview and say that the USC is going to use the 90 days to 'get to know' the fiance and see what happens.

Seriously, this is really a no brainer and oh so ridiculous that this is still up for interpretation.

advice was given, if ppl dont care to listen to it, it becomes their prob lisa luv.gif
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 15:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (jundp @ Oct 25 2007, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ionescu @ Oct 25 2007, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jundp @ Oct 25 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd personally just like to get to the 90 days!

And PS I find the pumpkin azz annoying and juvenile, so I turned photos off (thanks to whomever taught me how!)

yea, announcing you hate the pumpkin butt was immature and mean, all you had to do was turn off pics, no need to announce why you did it good.gif


Why? People enjoy going on and on around here about "TOS" etc. I find that having a naked rear end in a photo to be cutting quite close to that. Every day I find that there are many examples of rudeness and juvenile behavior on this site. I truly don't feel that my announcement was either. I am also not alone in my opinion, which is why I stated it. I stated nothing directly at the user, only at her choice of photos. You're right, I could have not said anything. But it appears on this site that some people are allowed to say what they choose and others are not. Not cool in my book. good.gif

aham, its not naked smile.gif
oh and heres a tissue for your tears good.gif

Edited by Ionescu, 25 October 2007 - 02:08 PM.

SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 14:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (jundp @ Oct 25 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd personally just like to get to the 90 days!

And PS I find the pumpkin azz annoying and juvenile, so I turned photos off (thanks to whomever taught me how!)

yea, announcing you hate the pumpkin butt was immature and mean, all you had to do was turn off pics, no need to announce why you did it good.gif
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 13:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 25 2007, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ionescu @ Oct 25 2007, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i came in late, which is unusual, but i wanna know what the argument is all about........

its simple, the 90 days is not to be used to get to know someone you already claim to love and want to marry, that shouldve been taken care of long before coming on VJ and filing a k1 visa.

It's really not quite as simple as that.

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what is there to argue about?

I thought we were arguing Alliance vs Horde.

For the Horde!!!!!! smile.gif smile.gif girlwerewolf2xn.gif

really? bc my husband came here and within 90 days we were married and didnt have to learn anything before marrying. was pretty darn simple

if ppl wanna use the 90 days as a learn about your fiance process time, then thats there shame and pain
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 13:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
i came in late, which is unusual, but i wanna know what the argument is all about........

its simple, the 90 days is not to be used to get to know someone you already claim to love and want to marry, that shouldve been taken care of long before coming on VJ and filing a k1 visa.

what is there to argue about?
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 13:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (ramos96 @ Oct 25 2007, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know instead of arguing about all this, there are homes in Louisiana and Mississippi that need to get re-built. There are people that need counseling and there are fire lines we all could be helping with.

Ramos

but unfortunatly some of us work and dont have the time or money to go rebuild ppl's houses, so we will argue about this instead smile.gif

and i found your comment irrelavent and arrogant
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 13:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
i wanna comment.
i saw somewhere here someone say that their SO is being forced to uproot themselves, leave family culture and country behind.
lemme clarify something here, no one is being FORCED, or MADE to leave their country. they made that choice when they agreed to start the k1 visa.
the 90 days is not to get to know your fiance, you shouldve done that before filing for a k1 visa, if you didnt, and you regret it or are using it JUST to get to know your fiance, shame on you, your abusing the system.
SinergyFemaleRomania2007-10-25 11:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresShould I try to write to my congressman
Im not trying to be rude, but your hoping to only wait 2-3 months instead of the 6-8? what makes your case any more special than the rest of the ppl who are waiting? I understand the anticipation, but you are going to just have to learn patience.
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-03-12 22:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAge difference will matter for K1 Visa
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QUOTE (lachifa @ Jan 13 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi!
I'm new here.....but i think that this site will help me a lot with the documents my boyfriend and I need for the K-1 Visa.

He is a U.S. citizen and I'm from Peru. We have a difference in our ages...about 19 years. We just want to be together, that's all that really matter to us..but I'd read in some web pages, that a lot of times, Embassy denies the K-1 visa, because of the age difference..and I'm crazy about that because that really shouldn't matter.
We are trying to know whta is better to us.... if the K-1 visa or the K-3...
We want to make this work, but we need some good advice from you guys.

I hope you can help us.

P.S: ooohhh I forget to tell, that we met for the first time on December 31.. and it's says that we should see us at least for 2 years..so that means that we can not apply for that kind of visa??[/color]



Do you mean that you meet fot thr first time Dec 31 2008?

If so, that is going to be a bigger problem than any age difference.

You really should consider not filing for a few months so that there is time to build evidence of a bonafide relationship.

wrong!!
they have to have met within the last 2 years, and they have, they can file tomorrow, as long as they have been within the last 2 years before they file, it wont cause an issue.
Please please for future purposes, if you are going to give advice please make sure it is correct

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QUOTE (lachifa @ Jan 14 2009, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (geezer @ Jan 13 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lachifa @ Jan 13 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi!
I'm new here.....but i think that this site will help me a lot with the documents my boyfriend and I need for the K-1 Visa.

He is a U.S. citizen and I'm from Peru. We have a difference in our ages...about 19 years. We just want to be together, that's all that really matter to us..but I'd read in some web pages, that a lot of times, Embassy denies the K-1 visa, because of the age difference..and I'm crazy about that because that really shouldn't matter.
We are trying to know whta is better to us.... if the K-1 visa or the K-3...
We want to make this work, but we need some good advice from you guys.

I hope you can help us.

P.S: ooohhh I forget to tell, that we met for the first time on December 31.. and it's says that we should see us at least for 2 years..so that means that we can not apply for that kind of visa??[color="#9932CC"]
SinergyFemaleRomania2009-01-14 01:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMy Embassy Interview was cancelled a few times by my fiance
What country are you having your interview in??


SinergyFemaleRomania2009-01-06 21:40:00