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Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)if someone can give me info
QUOTE (no_where_man @ Jun 11 2009, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (samer @ Jun 11 2009, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay she didnt say congt you are approved and she put me on Ap she said she cant grant me a visa and the she gave me that paper explaining why but said dont worry she is going to send my documents to washington for more AP and if they approve then then they will send it back to the embassy here in jordan and they will call me to send my passport to issue the visa thats what she said to me or to tell me that my case is denied now maybe you are right they might discoverd something else but when my wife called her sent office there they told her that they called the embassy and said that my x marriage issue is no longer an issue its just confusing man i dont no iam so tired of that.....

well
first of all relax please
i know how that can be so frsutrated ...............
most cases that are put into AP ..they have the Magic workd (congratulations u r approved ) ,,, but even if they didnt as in ur case and u were put in AP ,,then refused thats really mean onething `` they found something``
the reason im pretty sure that i read their policy everywhere and it state the following
1: no visa or travel document to be issued in case the officer have some doubts about the real reason and case he is reviewing (thts whts we call AP )
2: NO officer is allowed to deny a petition only after being so certain and stating a report of why he/she deny the visa , this report is required by law to be given by the officer before returning the petition back the USCIS ,,

so what we have here ? what im saying if ur petition was returned so something wrong they found otherwise THEY CANT just simply retun it ..or they would simply deny u for a reason at the time of Interview ..

wht can you do ?
1:search in ur history about any problem u may have that caused such a decision to be made
2:make your wife contact her senator to put an Inquire and to stand on the real reason why the petition is refused and being returned
3:if the final decision that the petition is returned and there is a reason u could fine by the EX ways i said above ..then make ur wife consult an immigration lawyer at once ..that would be the best then ...

i know how u feel man , its all a frustrating process ..and i never saw such a case of AP denied at the end unless there is something ...so please research ur case ..history and i recommend her to call her senator immediately and putting an Inquiry ...

my best wishes for u and let us know of updates ....


I read that same thing about revocation of petitions...you say they are required by law...what law? who enforces it...who enforces anything in u.s. consulates? their decisions are not reviewable by any court.

Edited by Roy&katy, 27 June 2009 - 04:23 PM.

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-27 16:22:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
QUOTE (Chamy and Gatita @ Jul 20 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good luck Roy and Katy, glad to see you hanging in there!



thanks my friend! hopefull they will get tired of us, as we are never going away smile.gif

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-20 15:03:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Jul 2 2009, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tough to reach NVC by phone, amigo, but I'd pester the dickens out of them. Piece of cake compared with the consulate, and you've suffered quite enough, si man.




actually they have been easy...every time i called i got an operator with like 2 mins... they just said its now taking about 2 to 4 weeks..they dont usually give time lines...but i ask her, as an opinion, not fact, about what is the time frame, and she politely told me..i hope by next week we know something so i can schedule this interview while im down there in late july... keep praying for us....

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-02 01:45:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
QUOTE (divorced @ Jul 1 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this might also help

221(g):

The document issued by the Department of State under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) is for the most part used for requesting additional information from the beneficiary such as missing documents, additional evidence, or advising them of not being able to issue their visa due to pending name/security checks i.e. Administrative Processing However, Section 221(g) is also used by the Department of State when returning petitions/applications to the USCIS for further review ultimately recommending revocation.


Why are Petitions/Applications Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate Under Section 221(g)?

Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.

What Happens When a Petition/Application is Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate?


• 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.
• Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review"
• Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.
• Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.
• Local service center receives returned petition.
• Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.
• Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.
• Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.
• Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.
• Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.
• If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.
• If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.
• Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.
• Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.
• Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.


Hope with the above process one can judge the timeline for his/her Visa approval.

yes ours has went through all of that process, and has be approved again ..we are just waiting for nvc to receive it...

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-02 00:25:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
i guess vsc to nvc has slowed quite a bit ClockWatch2.gif
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-01 21:55:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
im hoping and praying my friend this goes smooth ... still waiting to get to nvc so we can set the appointment...who knows i might have to come back while you are there
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-25 01:17:00
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Jun 22 2009, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Si, man!!!!! We have all suffered together, you more than most. Remember to tell the unvarnished truth about that hellhole consulate in the "Latin American" subforum in the thread "US Consulate in Guayaquil, Ecuador."



now now...how could anyone ever top your post... good.gif mine would be just a dot. you should write a book tbone...you are very articulate ! reading.gif or maybe......an immigration lawyer good.gif protest6wz.gif
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-24 15:13:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
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QUOTE (Roy&katy @ Jun 22 2009, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When petitions are reaffirmed, I wonder if they go through the nvc again, directly to consulate or which steps? Our case was approved and reaffirmed by uscis and sent back to consulate, but since we already have nvc case number... how does this process works. I know reaffirmations are not everyday things but anyones help would be great. I would call the consulate but they dont ever accept phone calls for visa information, but im sure we have to set up another interview. We have hope again. Thanks all .




Why did the consulate send back your petition? My fiance visa peition was returned by the cosulate also and there is not much information on what to expect.

You cant email the embassy? I am sure they would have to either send a letter to the beneficiary or call NVC, they should be able to tell you if your petition was sent back to the consulate.




I dont think the consulate would contact or email you for anything. We have emailed them in the past, and sometimes they dont even repsond to congressional inquiries.

As far as a reason why they sent it back? oh who knows...not a legitimate one i can tell you that. They seem to send these back hoping uscis doesnt renew them, but as of lately, it looks like uscis is taking action and sending them reaffirmed back to the consulate...

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-24 15:00:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
QUOTE (Minya's wife @ Jun 24 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Roy&katy @ Jun 22 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When petitions are reaffirmed, I wonder if they go through the nvc again, directly to consulate or which steps? Our case was approved and reaffirmed by uscis and sent back to consulate, but since we already have nvc case number... how does this process works. I know reaffirmations are not everyday things but anyones help would be great. I would call the consulate but they dont ever accept phone calls for visa information, but im sure we have to set up another interview. We have hope again. Thanks all .


I believe if you to to the MENA (Middle East - North Africa) regional forum there is a pinned thread that has information on what happens once USCIS re-affirms a petition...but I believe it follows the same procedure, NVC (short stop-over) and then the consulate for second interview.

-P



yeah i thought so...our noa2 was dated june 12 , and receive it on june 20.. nvc has not got the case back as of today..
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-24 14:56:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
QUOTE (Minya's wife @ Jun 24 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Roy&katy @ Jun 22 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When petitions are reaffirmed, I wonder if they go through the nvc again, directly to consulate or which steps? Our case was approved and reaffirmed by uscis and sent back to consulate, but since we already have nvc case number... how does this process works. I know reaffirmations are not everyday things but anyones help would be great. I would call the consulate but they dont ever accept phone calls for visa information, but im sure we have to set up another interview. We have hope again. Thanks all .


I believe if you to to the MENA (Middle East - North Africa) regional forum there is a pinned thread that has information on what happens once USCIS re-affirms a petition...but I believe it follows the same procedure, NVC (short stop-over) and then the consulate for second interview.

-P



yeah i thought so...our noa2 was dated june 12 , and receive it on june 20.. nvc has not got the case back as of today..
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-24 14:52:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)k-1 reaffirmed
When petitions are reaffirmed, I wonder if they go through the nvc again, directly to consulate or which steps? Our case was approved and reaffirmed by uscis and sent back to consulate, but since we already have nvc case number... how does this process works. I know reaffirmations are not everyday things but anyones help would be great. I would call the consulate but they dont ever accept phone calls for visa information, but im sure we have to set up another interview. We have hope again. Thanks all .
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-22 11:30:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)2nd interview

Without knowing every detail of the OP's situation, you CANNOT say what is or is not to be expected, and at a consulate different from the one where you interviewed. Please avoid telling people "not to worry" when two lives could be permanently wrecked if they believe you.


I second this opinion from experience that both must attend every interview regardless how many you have, and there are still no guarantees, but dont 2nd guess your self later saying what if. Be sure you do everything possible!
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2010-04-04 20:20:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)Contacting DOS to inquire about case...

I batted my head on the DOS wall for too long, until I finally heeded the advice of an attorney who said that the CONSULATE is the place to contact for up-to-date answers.



Agreed. The DOS, USCIS, etc etc etc....are just looking at information in a screen accessible to "customer service reps" which are just call centers, that have no real access to your case. They can just see the same info you can get on computer, and phone updates.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2010-04-04 20:34:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)Congressional Intervention does not help
Congressional, Senators, none of that helps with consulate level inquiries. Yes they will eventually answer with some general letter they have already typed. All they do is change the Congress persons name, and case number/names, and issue something with a half way apology and assured decision in the near future. its generic! Ronald Mcdonald has just a much pull with the consulates. Dont believe the hype of "congressional inquires" These consulates know its just some assistant case worker for the congressional office, and that if the congressman really wanted to push he himself would make a phone call and get results. Since the most of us are nobodys, thats not gonna happen.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2010-04-04 20:41:00
Waivers (I-601 and I-212) and Administrative Processes (221g)documents to REAFFIRM

my case is in 221g AP, i am worrying if they return it to USCIS then what kind of documents USCIS ask to REAFFIRM the case???

your help will be appreciated

Thanks


USCIS will review the petition, issue a re-affirmed petion, or revoke the petition and send you a notice stating the time frame for rebuttal with option to submit "additional evidence" they dont normally ask for specifics.. You just have to front load everything you have and can find and send that to them, as you will have only one chance to convince them.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2010-04-04 20:30:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Stuck at NVC!
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QUOTE (Wyld Blu @ Jun 19 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am so upset. I called NVC to see if our case has been forwarded too..and told it was pulled for AP. THE MOST frustrating part is not only will they not clarify what exactly this means, but there is NO time frame...meaning they can take as much time on it as they damn well please. Our K1 was going through just peachy...then this. I feel like my heart is breaking!

-Blu-( crying.gif )



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I cannot help but wonder what kind of hassle I would go through to immigrate to Holland. It HAS to be less than THIS B.S.
Does anyone know if calling an elected official can help with this? I am just beside myself with worry now. We were planning our wedding, now I don't want to even do that because who KNOWS when that will ever happen.

-Blu-(at the end of my rope)


We been planning our wedding since 2007 ...lol everything is with there time from...Elected officials can inquire for you, but they cant speed up the process by any means. unless it was the President im sure . we are just waiting for uscis to nvc and back to consulate..
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-26 12:51:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Case not received by NVC
QUOTE (imaisha @ Jul 13 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It most likely won't take 90 days. I haven't read of any case that has taken that long. Most likely it will be 2-3 weeks. You haven't even gotten to the 2 week mark yet- don't panic. Unfortunately there isn't much you can do in terms of expediting it so long as it's still sitting at the service center, but perhaps you can find out from NVC how to move things along once it arrives, i.e. avoid possible AP and request a quick interview date if deployment is imminent.




ours was june 12 and still nothing...i think this is a very busy time of year with all the tourist etc
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-13 20:37:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)I129F K1 file from USCIS to NVC not received...
QUOTE (ashanddes @ Jun 27 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's been almost 4 weeks since we received our I-129F NOA2 dated May 30, 2009 (actually received the notice on June 6). I called the # for NVC tonight to see if they had received our case yet, and our case # is not on their records. From reading this topic it seems I have a little longer to wait before I freak out, but yeah...starting to get anxious regardless. Here I was thinking that the consulate would have the petition by now! Oh well.

Just wanted to share and wish everyone else who is still waiting good luck!

-Ash



our noa2 was dated june 12 and still no records at nvc....ours is a reaffirmation, so i dont know if it goes to nvc since it already has a case number. its seems vsc has slowed a lot...our last one only took like only a few days...
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-07 18:13:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresk3 - Calling USCIS for case status
QUOTE (RooDee @ Jan 20 2009, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is easy to get a live person but that person is usually a customer service representative who simply reads out the information you can find without their help. Apparently these people have been trained to give out pat responses and to avoid transferring you to an immigration officer at all costs.

The only people who actually know what is going on with your case are the immigration officers but they are kept from taking customer calls - maybe for a good reason. I would much rather have them working on the cases instead of taking calls. What USCIS could do is give their customer service representatives a little more visibility into where each application is, but that may only generate more questions from customers ...

Deepak


I have NOA2 and the website still says pending on our case. When I call speak to a live rep, she reads what the website says..Its not updated. The automated guy also tells you, this is the most recent information regarding your case, before he offers to transfer you to a live rep. So yea, their info is generic and you can see the same information on their website.. hope that helps..

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-26 09:37:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionds-156 question ...who will pay for your trip
It asks who will pay for your trip? Im the U.S. sponsor, and i will pay mostly for the trip, but she will pay some of the smaller things im sure. What should I put on that question? Thanks for any help
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-02-13 14:44:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Apr 29 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, guess what? My fiancee went to the interview today and was denied. The consul apparently wanted to see telephone bills (some were included in the I-129f package, if I recall), evidence of a joint bank account, and for ME to be there in SEPTEMBER to attend a "marriage interview." [censored] I had e-mailed these people in January to ASK if it were required or desirable for me to also be there, and they did not comment. [censored]

I have already contacted my Congressman's office. From Roy&Katy's story to mine, there seems a pattern here of treating two different visa applications -- K1 & K3 -- just the same.

Roy, where exactly on the Guayaquil Consulate website does it say that only the beneficiary is entitled to be interviewed? I have not found that yet.

actually on the guayaquil website, it says, not even the u.s. petitioner can attend the interview. It says ONLY the beneficiary and an approved translator if required. I dont get it either. they never told us exactly what evidence they required. we showed them some of everything. All we can do is show them more of what we already have.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-04-29 15:37:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Mar 26 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fwaguy @ Mar 25 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, I doubt your place of meeting has anything to do with your situation. The I-129f was adudicated and the ConOff is not suppose to re-adjudicate a petition. There has to have been some lack of evidence proving a bonafide relationship or other circumstance that prompted the ConOff to seek additional validation.


Right, they wouldn't be questioning the evidence of meeting requirement. It would be about the relationship bona fides. Maybe the fact you didn't visit during the process along with skimpy evidence would be the cause. You may never know but you know what to do now.

yes we hope its approved soon smile.gif
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-27 12:02:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Mar 26 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Roy&katy @ Mar 26 2008, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes and the letter they gave her keeps saying bring your husband to ecuador to interview with you, and have a marriage interview, but we are not even married...Im not sure what they want. I sent the information to my senator and they are going to ask the consul what is it that they are looking for.. because the letter they gave her said bring items with rent and bills in each other names, and that.


It seems like they are unaware this is a K-1 interview not a K-3 nor CR! Or maybe they used the same format for every second interview letter, this is all so confusing! What they are asking you to bring is what they ask for married couples.

Have you tried sending an email to the Embassy? Their email should be on the website, include your case number and explain your situation and ask them what they want.

I hope you are able to solve this soon!

Yes, my senator emailed the consulate this morning inquiring as what else they require for this case and why are they asking for a "wedding interview" I would fly down there next week if they would interview us. So the senators office is going to try to help with that. I dont mind going to an interview, if i would have known i could go to it, i would have went.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-26 14:59:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno

QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno



Hi:
We also had a sort of similar situation,because we got married in the Dominican Republic instead of El Salvador therefore the CO got suspitious why we didn't get married in our homeland with friends and family?? go figure!!! anyway I don't understand why do you have to wait till August for the second interview if I were you I'll try to get in touch with the embassy and try to schedule it for an earlier date,in our case the CO told my husband that as soon as I get there,we should show up at the embassy with no prior appointment or anything,so 4 days later we hd our interview and the visa was granted right away.
Good luck and keep us posted.
God bless
Abby

I hope we can do that, but when i call to the embassy, its just some girls that schedule apointments telling me...august 6....and I said I need to talk with someone with the consul because I planned on going there in april, and they just tell me august.


Very unfortunate,is horrible how they'll make you wait for 5 months,this is unreasonable!!!!!!!! keep calling the embassy at this point you have nothing to loose or contact your senator or representative to make an inquiry for you and revised your case. I thouth the El Salvador embassy was one of the worst but seeing this happening in Quito just makes me wonder....

yes and the letter they gave her keeps saying bring your husband to ecuador to interview with you, and have a marriage interview, but we are not even married...Im not sure what they want. I sent the information to my senator and they are going to ask the consul what is it that they are looking for.. because the letter they gave her said bring items with rent and bills in each other names, and that.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-26 12:34:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
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QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno

QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno



Hi:
We also had a sort of similar situation,because we got married in the Dominican Republic instead of El Salvador therefore the CO got suspitious why we didn't get married in our homeland with friends and family?? go figure!!! anyway I don't understand why do you have to wait till August for the second interview if I were you I'll try to get in touch with the embassy and try to schedule it for an earlier date,in our case the CO told my husband that as soon as I get there,we should show up at the embassy with no prior appointment or anything,so 4 days later we hd our interview and the visa was granted right away.
Good luck and keep us posted.
God bless
Abby

I hope we can do that, but when i call to the embassy, its just some girls that schedule apointments telling me...august 6....and I said I need to talk with someone with the consul because I planned on going there in april, and they just tell me august.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-26 09:46:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno

QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Mar 25 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is strange; I too thought that for K1 interviews, only the beneficiary was required to attend. Also, the K1 interviews occur only at the Guayaquil consulate, so why would you be asked to go to the Quito embassy? It sounds to me as though you need much more information on what the Officer's thinking is.

Well i guess his question was....why hasnt he came to quito to visit. And she told him the truth, i started a new job, and didnt have any time off, but could go to the bahamas much faster(it seemed) and be back to work sooner. And it says on the guayaquil website, the ONLY person allowed in the interview was the fiance benef, that no usa petitioner could come. I just wish i knew what they wanted.....or.............. i dunno
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-25 15:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (fwaguy @ Mar 25 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, I doubt your place of meeting has anything to do with your situation. The I-129f was adudicated and the ConOff is not suppose to re-adjudicate a petition. There has to have been some lack of evidence proving a bonafide relationship or other circumstance that prompted the ConOff to seek additional validation.

Yea I thought so too, but we sent phone records, emails, birthday gifts, many many pictures, wedding plans, since 2005 and she even took emails between her and my family and mother. So im not sure what else he is wanting, he didnt say denied, just gave her a letter that said interview should have fiance present. I spend 48 dollars this morning buy pin numbers to talk to the embassy, and the only thing they could tell me was....do you want to schedule the next interview? So i have no idea what the consul wants me to bring
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-25 15:51:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
Same thing happen to us, our was a CR1 tho, the CO requested that I needed to be there for a second interview it was totally unexpected so I had to travel and be there with him for the interview,he was granted the visa after that, it wasn't as easy as I thought but thank GOD the Co was conviced ours was a bona fide marriage.
just plan your trip ASAP and do as they say,everything will be fine.
Good luck
God Bless
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yes i dont mind going down there....i would go down there tomorrow if they wanted, but the embassy is saying august...... and thats a huge swing in plans. I know not to plan anything for sure, but i was hoping it would be a few weeks...or even a month.....
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-25 15:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
QUOTE (SnowyTater @ Mar 25 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never heard of it, man, I'm sorry, that's a bit worrying sad.gif

Try not to freak out I guess. He hasn't turned you down or rejected the filing or anything. I think for you to have gotten this far you're probably okay, and it sounds like you have ample evidence. I have heard of interviewers wanting more evidence but never of the interviewer asking to see the US petitioner, too.

You've met in person in the past 2 years, which fulfills the requirement. Maybe it's a problem that you met outside of either of your countries?

I guess its why, but i would have went to the interview if i would have known, but it said on the website, only the beneficiary was allowed to the interview. and i read about many couples who have met in "neutral" countries, with no problems....i guess it all depends on the individual consul officer. sad.gif
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-25 15:38:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussionk-1 interview denied temorarily?
Im the petitioner in usa. We met in the bahamas in august 2007, We met on the internet in 2005. We submitted, pictures, letters, emails, birthday cards, presents, phone records, and much more proof, and the Consular officer in guayaquil ecuador told her today in the interview that he is requesting an interview with us as a couple and I have to come to another interview with her. Has anyone heard or experienced this? He was asking if i had come to quito. Thanks for your help.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-03-25 15:23:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionNot going to be with fiance during interview......
QUOTE (Cassie @ May 22 2008, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (rebeccajo @ May 22 2008, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Research the anecdotal evidence for your consulate as to the outcome of visa approvals with or without the American by the beneficiaries side.

What happens in London can be very different from Chile from Vietnam from Frankfurt from Manila.............


There is the key statement right there. From what I have seen, quite a few Central / South American consulates automatically deny until the USC can make an appearance. RJ's advice is spot on.

I didnt attend, and ours was denied. They requested I attend a second interview, which is in june...The consulate dont factor money(tickets) over love, thats what i gather... hope that helps..
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2008-05-22 09:49:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionMaybe USCs should have more weight in the matter...
QUOTE (Gary and Alla @ Jul 1 2009, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Jul 1 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lancer1655 @ Jul 1 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All that needs to be highlighted is all of the sex scandals regarding IO's to show that they have too much power and not enough oversight. I realize that last year USCIS created a special hotline to report happenings but I wonder how well that is working...
COs (Dept. of State)? And I still believe that we deserve to see Gary's supporting figures rather than accept his assertions on faith.


Your case is a good example. Can I give you numbers? No. Can I state that if a couple is qualified for a visa they WILL get it IF THEY (again the power of the USC) pursue the matter with the POWER that they have at their disposal, just as you did. Some visas get denied to people who aren't qualified or who did not (through their own errors) prove the legitimacy of their relationship...again THEIR fault going in.

I cannot see how blaming the problems on the nameless, faceless government is of benefit to anyone in the process. On the other hand, informing someone they DO have a lot to do with the outcome is beneficial in that it makes them aware of the power they have to influence the process. It suprises me, Tbone, really...after all you wnet through and finally being successful that YOU would suggest that YOU didn't have anything to do with it. Heck, I have always admired how you worked through everything and were successful. I thought YOU were excellent proof to my point. Maybe it was just luck? Don't you think YOU had a lot to do with it? Even if an attorney did something for you, YOU chose the attorney and chose to pursue justice.

I think your getting a visa in a difficult consulate is much more an example of USC influence than me getting 3 visas in a relatively easy consulate. Maybe you don't agree. In fact your case is a perfect inspiration for my opinion.



Congratulations again.



I will say this and this only. the Guayaquil consulate, I didnt attend the interview. The first question asked was, where is your fiance? Then immediately said we suggest you have a joint matrimonial interview. Every other couple we know of at the consulate, was asked the same question, and was denied at the first interview. So you can form an opinion if you want.

Edited by Roy&katy, 01 July 2009 - 07:34 PM.

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-01 19:32:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionRe-approval of k1
QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Jun 26 2009, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most of the time the K1 will expire before it gets back to the USCIS so they will not even review it, but in some cases they will. In my case they are reviewing it because my senator contacted Bennit and he promissed my senator I would get a chance to appeal it so there is a special request for the USCIS to review it. my K1 was last touched 06/17/2009 we were denied back in December of 2008. Even if they do approve my K1 and send it back it won't help since we are married now and filed for a CR1 the K1 becomes invalid. I would advise not to marry her now that they are sending your K1 back because they will not give you the k1 visa if you are married you will have to file for a CR1 and wait 6 months or longer.

The denial ratio for K1 are over 50% in Ho Chi Minh it is the hardest place to get a visa. I have personally spoken to many attorneys in the US and Vietnam and have had several consults. There is a misconception here and that is when the petition is sent back to the USCIS if it does not expire in the case of a K3 or CR1 the USCIS will most of the time agree with the consulate and not reaffirm the petition to send back. In that case you will get a NOIR letter and you will get 30 days to respond with your evedience. Most of the time 90% to 95% they will agree with the petitioner if the evedince is stong and you have addressed the consulate's issues and concers and reaffirm the petition and send it back to the consulate with a recommendation to issue the visa. You will then get a second interview this interview you will have a high chance to pass and get the visa. For them to fail you the second time after the USCIS approved they would have to come up with new evedience to deny. The consulate cannot deny for a reason the USCIS is aware of when the approve or reaffirm you petition. If they denied for non bonafied the first time and the USCIS asks for your evedience then sends visa back to the consulate the chances for them denying for non bonafide the second time listing the same reason they did the first time are nill.

So if they deny for non bonafide because of no engagement party or saying you proposed after knowing her for only 2 weeks and the USCIS is aware of this and they arrpove your visa or reaffirm it and send it back the consulate cannot use that as an excuse to deny. They can ask you wife whats his favorite color or favorite food and if she says I don't know then they can deny for non bonafide because she didn't know husbands favorite food or color but I have never seen that happen when the issue's were address properly on the appeal.


We were denied in ecuador for "immigration purposes only" and they sent our case back, and uscis reaffirmed without any requests..we just got a new notice of action 2.... its says receipt date...oct...2007... and approval date june 12 2009.... and they sent another notice of action that says its been sent to dos for action..

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-26 13:00:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionI-751 December filers

Congrats Roy&Katy :dance: !! :dance: Go VSC Go :dance: Updating approval :)



California Service Center (21 Applicants, 16 Approved 76%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved.....GC Received
COLU.................12/01/11........12/02/11........12/28/11........--/--/--......--/--/12 (Early Bio 12/13)
KOSTYAN..............12/05/11........12/06/11........01/06/12........05/15/12......--/--/12
DARWINSFINCH.........12/05/11........12/06/11........02/06/12........09/07/12......09/14/12 (RFE dated 6/15/2012, responded 8/2012)
LYN AND JEFF.........12/05/11........12/07/11........01/04/12........05/17/12......06/11/12
SIOT2012.............12/08/11.........12/--/11.......01/12/12........--/--/--......--/--/12
XRUKOPOTAM...........12/11/11........12/14/11........01/23/12........05/21/12......06/11/12
JOJO_GEE.............12/12/11........12/??/11........01/19/12........08/20/12......08/25/12 (RFE received 05/30, responded 08/07)
WIS-CAN..............12/13/11........12/20/11........01/14/12........05/24/12......--/--/12
MIMMO................12/14/11........12/20/11........??/??/12........06/13/12......06/18/12 (Early Bio 01/17)(RFE received ??/??-dated 05/29, responded 06/01)
SENTHILSKP12.........12/16/11........12/23/11........01/27/12........--/--/--......--/--/12
LANCELOTTE25.........12/18/11........12/19/11........01/20/12........05/22/12......06/13/12
TINA&ROLAND..........12/19/11 .......12/20/11........01/13/12........06/15/12......06/21/12
OOMIE................12/19/11........12/20/11........01/13/12........05/14/12......--/--/12 (Early Bio 01/03)
LONGEY...............12/20/11........12/21/11........01/13/12........05/14/12......--/--/12
KACRS1221............12/21/11........12/23/11........01/18/12........--/--/--......--/--/12
MEIKO_KC.............12/21/11........12/25/11........01/18/12........05/29/12......--/--/12
CHRISJORDAN..........12/22/11........12/27/11........01/13/12........05/29/12......06/15/12 (Late Bio 01/23)
FLYINGBEE............12/23/11........12/--/11........01/13/12........??/??/12......06/15/12 (Never received NOA)
LEVIATHAN23..........12/23/11........12/--/11........01/20/12........06/06/12......06/18/12
TCHAUEUA.............12/24/11........12/27/11........01/26/12........--/--/--......--/--/12
LUKE AND DEANNA......12/28/11........12/29/11........02/15/12........06/06/12......06/19/12 (Early Bio 01/26)



Vermont Service Center (30 Applicants, 16 Approved 53%)

VJName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved.....GC Received
BANKERMAI............12/03/11........12/23/11........01/09/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
BOP..................??/??/11........12/06/11........01/05/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
LGG..................11/29/11........12/07/11........01/14/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
NYLA.................12/01/11........12/06/11........01/13/12........08/27/12......09/14/12
VARESKA..............12/05/11........12/07/11........01/03/12........09/10/12......09/21/12
TOMMY2012............12/05/11........12/07/11........01/09/12........08/15/12......08/21/12
ABESTER..............12/05/11........12/19/11........01/06/12........08/23/12......--/--/--
NYLA.................12/06/11........12/??/11........01/??/12........08/27/12......--/--/--
MAPLESTAR............12/07/11........12/09/11........01/30/12........09/04/12......09/19/12
ESJAY................12/08/11........12/13/11........01/05/12........09/10/12......--/--/--
SDW..................12/09/11........12/13/11........01/06/12........--/--/--......--/--/-- (RFE received 09/15)
PURSUIT82............12/10/11........12/??/11........02/29/12........09/15/12......--/--/--
GREEBO...............12/13/11........12/15/11........01/06/12........08/24/12......09/14/12
TOGETHER-FOREVER.....12/07/11........12/16/11........--/--/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
CHARLO13.............12/12/11........12/19/11........01/30/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
DANVIL101............12/xx/11........12/19/12........02/08/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
EVANSCHOLLY..........12/15/11........12/20/11........01/20/12........09/15/12......09/22/12
MIKE777..............12/??/11........12/21/11........01/18/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
BRB..................12/16/11........12/21/11........02/06/12........09/15/12......--/--/-- (Early Bio 01/18)
READYTOLEAVE.........12/16/11........12/21/11........01/20/12........09/24/12......--/--/--
DALLASJEEPER.........12/18/11........12/22/11........01/19/12........09/10/12......--/--/--
ELY2009..............12/23/11........12/27/11........01/23/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
GRUNTSWIFE...........12/19/11........12/24/11........04/16/12........08/06/12......08/14/12 (Reschedule Bio 06/25)
JOSHDBA..............12/20/11........12/27/11........01/26/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
FLYER92..............12/23/11........12/29/11........03/28/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
JAVA100US............12/24/11........--/--/12........--/--/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
BASY.................12/27/11........12/30/11........01/23/12........09/13/12......09/22/12
WYATT'S TORCH........12/27/11........12/30/11........02/24/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
ELTEMP...............12/28/11........01/03/12........01/31/12........--/--/--......--/--/--
ROY&KATY.............12/28/11........01/04/12........02/02/12........09/20/12......--/--/--



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Thank you so much :)
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2012-09-25 21:34:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionI-751 December filers

Congrats on your approval :dance: But update? You are not on the list...?
I checked your VJ Timeline and it shows your NOA date is o1/04. If that date is the Receipt Date on your NOA letter, you are January filer?


Well I don't know how to do the "list". However, there is a difference between I-751 date, which is your filing date and noa is just that. We filed in december, just as the timeline reflects. I don't care if this list gets updated or added, I was just trying to be helpful showing people some more are getting approved.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2012-09-25 20:50:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionI-751 December filers
We received our approval date 09/20/2012. Please update
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2012-09-25 12:50:00
Philippineswheres my case now? :(
Ours was approved on june 12..still same story from nvc...wait wait wait
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-14 10:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsNVC Receiving Case
QUOTE (Izzywig @ Jul 14 2009, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone

I am new but have found comfort here for many months as we waited for NOA2.

Now we wait again.

I am worried that our paperwork has gone missing on the way to NVC. We were approved on 26th June and still the NVC say they haven't received our case and it could take 90 days??

Is anyone else having this trouble?

Is there ANYTHING we can do to make sure our case isn't sitting back at California CSC?

Worst case scenario (and I truly hope not) but what happens if it has been lost sad.gif

Sorry for all the questions.



Ours was approved in june 12, and i call everday and nvc still hasnt received..Ours is VSC , i think theres a slow down that is just random.

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-07-14 09:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCan we file for CR-1??
Here is the congressional email response from the consulate to my congressman.



United States Consulate General

Guayaquil, Ecuador

August 12, 2008

The Honorable Vic Snyder

Member of Congress

ATTN: Maggie Hobbs

E-MAIL: Maggie.Hobbs@mail.house.gov


Dear Mr. Snyder:

Thank you for your e-mail of August 5, 2008 concerning the K-1 visa application of Ms. xxx xxx. Your constituent, Mr. xxx, is interested.

On March 25, 2008 Ms. xxx was found ineligible to receive a K-1 visa under Section 221 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act because she failed to provide sufficient evidence to prove that a bona fide relationship existed between her and Mr. xxx.

Based on the lack of evidence, the Consular Officer suggested a joint interview as a method for verifying the relationship. This Consulate conducted an interview with the couple on June 26, 2008. During this interview, the couple was not able to demonstrate that their marriage was not solely for the purpose of obtaining an immigrant visa for Ms. xxx.

Ms. xxx?s immigrant visa petition is being returned to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) through the National Visa Center with a request that they revoke approval of this petition. The case is first sent to the NVC and then they forward the case to the DHS office that approved the I-130 petition.

The decision made by the Officer on August 7, 2008 cannot be appealed. After DHS reviews the request for revocation, they will contact Ms. xxx with their findings.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any other questions.

Edited by Roy&katy, 19 June 2009 - 10:00 PM.

Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-19 21:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCan we file for CR-1??
We were not given a denial form. I have had the senator and congress get a response and it says Based on the information of the interview, we believe the visa was for immigration purposes only and are returning the case for review. The state department told us the denial was under section 221g. There was no form, formal letter, It was a typed, no letter head signed by the "chief consul" with no name. It was the same response in emails. I did not attend the first interview, but the second interview i attended and we did a matrimonial stokes style interview in separated rooms and were drilled like prisoners of war. This interview was done by an ecuadorian national and not a u.s. consul, and told us that the consuls were busy with other cases.

If you status changes I would think we could file a new petition with an attachment as the k-1 dies anyway when we marry. From what i understand, this k-1 can take 2-3 years just to offer a review and then more time for the decision. It says multiple k-1 petitions are not allowed, but it dont say that about cr-1 or k-3.. I have read other couples on here filed with pending cases and got approved, but every consulate is different. There is no talking to , asking questions, emailing or anything from this particular consulate, the only phone call you get to them cost 12 dollars and its just to schedule the interview.

We submitted hundreds of pictures, and during the interview, they never asked who was in them or anything. They didnt care, the decision was already made.
Roy&katyNot TellingEcuador2009-06-19 21:48:00