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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

But, you see, you cannot deny a K-1 visa because someone is ugly, either.  If you have a bona fide relationship or marriage, supplied the necessary documents, and are not otherwise inadmissible you will be approved.

 

People suggest after a failed K-1 to get married because it shows that you are serious and pursuing your relationship anyway.  Not because if you get married you get a visa.  A married case after a failed K-1 will have to address the issue that caused the K-1 to be denied in the first place.  if they don't address that issue they will be denied again.

 

Yes, I understand that and was just clarifying my initial position. 


r060106MalePoland2013-09-25 22:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

The simple answer is no.  A I-130 petition cannot expire so if the visa is denied the I-130 petitioner gets a chance to rebut the findings when the I-130 is revoked.  So in that sense it has more staying power. A I-129F just expires most of the time, so people can try again.

 

But a lot of people think marriage is a stronger immigration case so they get a meaningless marriage and think it is the key to a visa.  It's not.  You still have to prove a bona fide marriage and relationship.  The fact that two people are legally joined is not that meaningful for someone wanting to commit fraud, unfortunately.

 

I was speaking as if the marriage was bona fide, obviously. All I was asking was is the CR-1 harder to deny on weird grounds like "you're too ugly" because of a legal, bona fide marital union. 

 

 

Yup.  That's what I had in mind.  It seems to me that often the answer here in VJ has been "if you fail on K1--get married and they'll accept you then."

 

Now Harpah Timsah threw in a curve--but I heard nothing about it being "your evidence shows a lack of relationship."  With adequate proof of relationship it seems to me that ugliness gets thrown out as in impediment--it's a done deal--they are married.

 

Therefore the ugly part no longer matters.

 

It's sort of a circular argument though--if the petitioner is too ugly for the petitionee and they go and get married I suppose that a consular could say: "it's fraud, because you're too ugly to marry," but the consular official really did not accuse fraud... or maybe they did.

 

I dunno... the whole thing makes my head hurt.  Poor OP I can imagine if it makes my head hurt thinking about it...it must be rough.

 

well said. 


r060106MalePoland2013-09-25 19:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Can you be denied because you are ugly.  Yes.  The consulate officials are agents of the Embassy.  The embassy acts as demi-gods and are for all practical reasons untouchable. 

 

Thailand embassy/consulate has determined that a child cannot be taken out of the country without permission of both birth parents.  In America hearings are held, and though state rule applies--essentially both parties are looked at and custody is often given, allowing a child to be moved to a distant location--if the Court determines it is in the best interest of the child.  So The Thailand consulate simply makes its own rules.

 

Therefore they could quite arbitrarily refuse you because you did not wear pink shoes on a Tuesday.  Now, of course, you could sue, but I really doubt that you would get anywhere as there is no Federal District Court who would hear your case.  You could take it to a higher court and eventually to the Supreme Court--but 99% of cases are never acted upon.

 

There is no libel/slander because this was told to you, not to others.  For slander/libel to hold true something has to be conveyed, and believed by another and damage from the action must occur.  Further, if for instance, you were placed with ten other people of approximate age, race and gender and if a group of random people were chosen and they repeatedly said: "that person is indeed--ugly," then there is no defamation," because truth is the absolute defense to defamation.

 

It's not sexual discrimination or any other actionable discrimination because ugly/beautiful is not an attribute protected by any law.  Neither would it be any form of discrimination if you were denied because you were too short and people do indeed discriminate because some of us are short (See:

r060106MalePoland2013-09-25 16:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Someone is being a fed a line of BS.  Most likely YOU. Possibly US.

 

If the visa was denied she cannot interview again. The petition will be sent back to USCIS and you will be notified of the official reason for denial.  It will NOT be because you are ugly.

 

some possibilities...

 

1. You are making this up for fun

 

2. She is making it up because she does no twant to marry you, did not go to the interview and is feeding you BS

 

If you are not making this up, then you may want to check with the consulate and see if she even showed up for her interview

 

You don't think the consulate would deny someone for such a reason? Just curious about your line of thought. 


r060106MalePoland2013-09-24 18:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

I'm very sorry this happened to you. Very saddening. It is extremely disconcerting for the rest of us, CR-1 or K-1. It makes me wonder if K-1s are easier to deny because there has been no marital bond established yet. Does anyone agree with that statement?


Edited by r060106, 24 September 2013 - 06:07 PM.

r060106MalePoland2013-09-24 18:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOT APPROVED

 

Not getting frustrated now getting worried, because you said once it's reaching NVC stages it is taking up to 5 months.  Is this for real????

 

That's what I've been told and have read on the forum. 


r060106MalePoland2014-02-09 12:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOT APPROVED

I will say this for the last time.  approval for form i-130 7-9 month.  I am strickly talking about the I-130 not NVC or Embassy Interview....... What ever the case I am happy to know they have a chance no matter what time from we are both talking about....

 

 

Where did I indicate I didn't know what you were talking about?? I'm trying to let the OP know what the total time from NOA1 to POE is for the spousal visa. I realize you were just pointing out the I-130 and didn't say otherwise. No need to get frustrated. 


r060106MalePoland2014-02-08 23:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOT APPROVED

Meaning the turnaround time for I-130 is 7-9 months. As far as NVC it depends.  I have seen where others once they receive their NO2 they are already prepared and have all of their paper work ready to go, and then their are some that are not prepared.  No two case are the same.  I saw a post from one of our Haiti members whose I-130 was approve in 2 months and then sent to NVC for processing (see post below).  Therefore always think positive, but most importantly know that you do have another chance.

 

The wait after the NVC has been averaging 5-6 months lately and the wait for the NOA2 has been 7-9. So like I said, a year to 15 months. It's not 7-9 months and hasn't been for a very long time. There are still some people from March of 2013 waiting for their NOA2 and my wife and I sent our petition in September and are still waiting after five months. I'm trying to help the OP realize that it's a long road and not get their hopes up with a process that right now is taking much much longer than the K-1 process. 


r060106MalePoland2014-02-08 16:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOT APPROVED

The turn around time is about 7-9 months, so at least you have another chance. Good Luck

 

 

No, that's not true at all. The turnaround time for the I-130 is 7-9 months at the USCIS stage and another 5-6 months from USCIS to approval at the embassy. So a total of 12 to 15 months. It's terrible right now, but it is what it is. 


Edited by r060106, 07 February 2014 - 09:09 PM.

r060106MalePoland2014-02-07 21:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNo update on USCIS, after noa 2?

Hey guys we received our noa 2 with a date of July 21st, But for some odd reason when i put my case number in the USCIS website still says "Initial Review". Should i be worry about this?


No! What matters is the NOA2 you received!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 13:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDo I HAVE to have 2 copies of everything?
No, you DON'T HAVE TO but I'd advice you to do so.

Edited by A + M, 26 July 2011 - 05:45 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 17:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK-1 Denied
Something worth having is something worth waiting for!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 15:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures363 days interview date !!!

is this normal? this wait until our interview has been relentless...363 days is nuts, I was wondering if there is a couple out there who had to wait longer? but i understand there is much more waiting ahead, at least we can tackle the waiting game together....Please excuse my venting..just getting harder and harder to wait until the interview, I know I should be excited we have a concrete date..but a count down like this can cause serious damage to LOVE...


It's normal for Montreal! :wacko:

Edited by A + M, 26 July 2011 - 01:30 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 13:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresproof of relationship

is it possible to put all the information needed like photos and other proof of relationship on a flash drive and take that to the interview with me?? or can i just give access to my facebook and skype accounts where all photos and over 20,000 messages between me and my fiance are stored??? thanks :)


Hm, no! Or should I say, I wouldn't do it. Take with you THE ACTUAL proof!

Edited by A + M, 25 July 2011 - 06:27 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-25 18:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMarriage before citizen

Another silly question...can we get married before applying for a visa if he is on a travel visa?


Marry and apply for AOS.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-27 15:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhy did our approved petition go straight to consulate
As far as I know, ALL approved petitions go through NVC (NO exceptions) no matter what NOA2 says.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-28 17:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureswhats the fastest way to get in USA

Fast and visa do not go together, you and your boyfriend will need to read posts here on VJ and do your homework and then prepare yourselves to proceed with weather a fiance visa or spousal visa, depending on what you ultimately decide to do.

Either way, slow down and take the time to prepare yourselves well. Good luck!


:rofl: Exactly!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-31 10:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSocial Security Number/Card
I married, applied for AOS, applied for SSN. No issues! :)
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-01 17:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCase got sent back to USCIS after the approval
Ouch! :( Try to call back NVC and/or USCIS. Ask for a supervisor. Schedule an Infopass at your USCIS local office.

Good luck!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-28 16:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI think I'm being a paranoid polly....

USCIS WON'T EVEN LOOK INTO THE TIME FRAME LAG UNTIL AFTER SIX MONTHS, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER A MONTH?


The user is talking about the NOA1.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 13:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI think I'm being a paranoid polly....

Ok so here's the deal, I sent the I-129f packet on Monday July 18th and still not received the NOA1, I know it can take up to 2 or 3 week at the most the receive the NOA1, but I just checked my status on the check I sent in and it still has not been cashed after a week...should I be worried?....help please!

Thanks VJ fam! :)


Allow 1 month.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-26 13:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDoes it matter if he visited me only once?
One visit only is very typical for the Philippines! :rofl:
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-07-31 11:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJust a thought...
Yes, take the K1 route (eventhough "the other option" would work too).

Edited by A + M, 05 August 2011 - 05:12 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-05 17:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuestion regarding how to obtain 'criminal records checks'

Hello everyone and thanx in advance for the help.
I am spanish citizen and engage with a beautiful us citizen. We are in the process of obtaining our K1. I already have obtained my criminal records in Spain. However, when I was sixteen years of age I spent 10 months living in the United States as a foreign exchange student (when i first met the girl who at present is my fiancée). The question is weather I will o won't need my 'criminal records check'from the Police Department in the area that i spent those 10 months in 1999. And, if i end up needing them, how am i suppose to obtain them from Spain (country where i am residing now a days)

Thank you guyz very much for your support.

Cheers.


No, you won't need it.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-05 17:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresvisa packet
I'd call back the American consulate.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-05 15:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC
You can track your package through the DHL website.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-05 15:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSocial Security Number
I applied AFTER getting married. My SSN has my maiden & my husband's last name.

Allow 1 month to get it.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-05 15:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureswhat is the fastest way to get a k-1 visa in california for a fiance in China?
K1 visa and the adjective "fast" don't go together.

Do you have a "valid" reason? Probably not!

Wait in line and be patient as everyone else.

Edited by A + M, 08 August 2011 - 05:47 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-08 17:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresleaving country for honeymoon?

Two solutions:

  • find a place in the US to do the honeymoon
  • delay the honeymoon until after he receives AP--then go out of country


Correct! :thumbs:

AP or GC are THE documents you'd need!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-24 21:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDoes K1 expire?
NOA2 expires after 180 days & K1 expires after 90 days.

Edited by A + M, 25 August 2011 - 06:14 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-25 18:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDid Vermont Service Center get flooded?
Vermont's been flooded for years! :rofl:
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-01 21:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresEmployment letter help!!!
Contact the company's Human Resources Department and ask for an Employment verification letter.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-07 15:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurespassport photo requirements

Getting ready for interview soon I hope :thumbs:
So we had passport Photos done, which was harder and more costly
then I expected, But the problems now is
She wore a blue shirt with white horizontal strips.
So My worry now is this will not be acceptable to Embassy.
Because of the striped shirt ??? :bonk: :bonk:

Or should I have her retake the Photos $ 20 Euros or
run with the one we have ??? :whistle:
and risk them being rejected ??? :whistle:

thank you


I think you'll be just fine. No worries.


If there is not a prison or police number under it you should be ok :rofl:


:rofl:
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-07 21:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA 2 will expire next!! month what to do?

Hi everyone!! I usually read others stories and comments and I find this site to be really helpful, so I decided to sign up and share my story hopefully I can get some help.

We are in September and no communication from the embassy, no packet 4, which means he doesn't have an interview date and he's unable to do his medical. I have one month and a week and a half before NOA2 expire. Should I be worried?

2/2/11 NOA1 (received)
6/17/11 NOA2 Approved
8/4/11 He received Packet 3 at the Post Office(no call or communication from the embassy)
8/5/11 He emailed packet 3
8/8/11 brought in a copy of form DS 3032 and was told that they will contact him and we are still waiting


:wacko:

Your I-129 was approved on 6/17/2011?

NOA2's usually expire after 180 days/6 months.

Yours should be valid until 12/17/2011.

Edited by A + M, 04 September 2011 - 06:58 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-04 18:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWe didn't write on the back of the photos

Hello, everybody!
We are a K1 July filer and have been waiting on our NOA2 for 55 days now. I was just wondering if it is mandatory to write on the back of the photos or if in the case we have sent all proofs it is not so relevant at all? My fiancee sent all primary and secondary proofs required for the process: copies of every single page of his passport with the visa stamps, boarding passes, itineray, skype, emails and facebook logs and the photos, but didn't write the dates, places and people's names on the back. Has anybody out there gone through this before without getting a RFE?
I know all we have to do now is wait and see what happens but any reply will be very appreciated! Thanks!


We didn't. No RFE.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-07 16:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDoes petioner have to be at Interview?
No! But in your case, yes!
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-08-25 18:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNewly engaged and going through the K1 process...have a few questions))
Hello M@hew & Congratulations!

1) In a few sentences describe your first date.

2) Contact the SS office.

3) Her 2 week overstay won't hurt your petition.

Good luck!

Edited by A + M, 30 September 2011 - 06:24 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-09-30 18:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresneed to how long it takes to get Green card

hey guys i'm currently on K-1 Visa Process my interview is on November 28th i just need to know that once i get

to US i will get married how long will it take to get the Green card after the marriage and will i able to work

on the same visa or i need to Apply for work permit your help and advice will be Appreciated Thank you


Roughly, EAD usually takes around 3 months, AOS usually takes around 6 months.


that means i cant work till 2-3 Months until i-765s is Approved


Yes, you can't work legally until your EAD is approved.

Edited by A + M, 08 November 2011 - 08:39 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-11-08 20:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresk1 visa lawyer or preparer

The only person who has the most time and the most care about the petition and the work that goes in to it is you yourself.


:thumbs: Exactly! There is absolutely no need to hire a lawyer when filing for K1 and AOS.

Edited by A + M, 08 November 2011 - 08:48 PM.

A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-11-08 20:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresThank God 4 Technology

I think Skype should be given some kind of humanitarian award for all their help.


:thumbs: Yes, I absolutely agree. Skype kept me sane many times throughout my K1 journey.
A + MFemaleSlovenia2011-11-08 21:08:00