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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

I forgot - I am 38 and she is 29


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-26 08:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Well, i figured out the BS factor and now I am pissed. I actually lived with her and everything was fine. The last few weeks I have been fed a bunch of lies. When I confront her saying I know she lied about something and I just ask her to tell the truth. It is all I want. The embassy in Kiev contacted me and said she never even scheduled an interview. I did get her on the phone today and I will speak to her in a few minutes on Skype. She does not know I know the truth. This will be interesting. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-26 08:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Yes, it is correct. We planned to get married in Ukraine in March (I wanted December originally, but it is kinda cold). I was in "busy season" in Florida where I work so I wanted to gain some more money before I returned. So, why not return in April on her birthday, which I did. I needed photos from her within 30 days of filing according to the I-129 petition and I do not trust Ukraine mail system. So, once I returned, I was debating about getting a lawyer or just doing the forms myself. If I had a lawyer, it would cost a lot and most people said just do it yourself because it is only paperwork. I did fine on the USCIS side. She said she will wait 6 months and let's try so we did. I filled out the petition on May12th, but it was the weekend, so it arrived in Dallas on May 15th - right on time from the day we took the photos in Nikolaev, Ukraine. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 13:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

At this point, I am going to halt my responses until I get better information from her. She cannot scan anything as she currently only has a phone for internet. Of course, she could go to an internet cafe, but she can also write it to me. Once I get more info, I will post an update.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 12:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

No, obviously she is not telling me everything. I did write the embassy yesterday, but didn't put the KEV number in. I will do it again.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 12:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

On a government website somewhere it did say something about as you say "sharks" outside the embassy. I believe this happened to her when she was trying to get a medical exam a few weeks ago. She said she received one at a local doctor, but I was very upset because I knew she went to the wrong one. She had the receipt for it, too. So, I told her where to go in Kiev and she did that last Friday so that was all ok. Thanks so much for those helping and caring as I will continue to read and post as all we can do is speculate until I get the exact reason.

 

She is at work right now and she works on a 24 hour schedule for a taxi service in Kiev so her replies are minimum. Today she did say that it is hard for me to explain over the phone as she can only text. I told her we really need to sit on skype and take a few hours to discuss this on camera when you are not working, but i asked her a few questions asking reason for denial and did she receive any papers. So far, she has not responded. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 12:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Yes, the title of this post is a good attention getter, but I didn't perceive it to be that way. As you can see from her translation, that is why I wrote it. According to her, she said the consulate said she was denied or refused a visa because she was too pretty for me and I was too ugly for her. Obviously, this is strange. After reading all these messages and speaking to other Russian people, this is what I think:

 

She did go to the interview, but was refused or denied and scared to tell me the real reason. I am sure she wants to be married. I have met her family, friends, etc...

 

She may very well be bailing. It is one of those things where everyone else can probably see it and I am too stupid to see it because I don't want that to be true.

 

We do have communication issues, but not really from the language. My Russian friend here in Florida says to me she needs to grow up and become more responsible. I agree because she does bail on important issues. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 12:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

but for those trying to help me, thank you.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 11:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

I feel there is BS somewhere, too, but I am searching for it. I have better things to do with my time than to try to make people think I am lying. I came in here for help and not to trick anyone. I wanted to send the google translation to show what she had written in skype. I just copied and pasted in here. Someone seemed confused about why I wouldn't just translate it without google. Reason" because I wanted people to see exactly what was written without me trying to explain because if you see how that can be explained, people would still think I am lying. While many in here think I am playing, this information I received or should I say lack of information is upsetting me greatly. I proposed to my fiance at a dolphin show in Odessa on September 1st last year. We originally planned to marry in Ukraine (wanted to make someone happy with semantics so no "the" with Ukraine). I returned to the United States to gain extra income in November, plus we had a big fight. In March, we discussed the possibility of moving to Florida and agreed we should try. Her birthday was in April so I returned to Ukraine in April. I wanted to stay in Ukraine, but decided it would be better for me to continue working in USA while I petition for her visa. As previously mentioned, everything in the USA went well, the American embassy in Kiev was on time, but yesterday was a heart-break for me. But now I am confused as to what the reason was/is. Once I know the reason, I can proceed. But even if the so-called "beauty" from an American government officer trying to see how she reacts still seems to me a bit on the discrimination side - if that was said. I did confront her about this and she swears to it. By the way, I am not the greatest looking person, but I am not ugly or some type of troll - not that that should matter anyway. I have been without my fiance for a long time and still not married so I am upset, confused, and searching info on visa information along with checking airline tickets. So some of you may think this is funny or a joke, but this is by no means a joke to me. I am the one in this awkward situation and my patience has run out with this visa process after the refusal or denial (i do not know which) yesterday. If she does get a 2nd interview, I will definitely be there on that one. Otherwise, it looks like my only option is to marry in Ukraine. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 11:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

She was supposed to go yesterday 9/24 at 2:00 p.m.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 11:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Just to let everyone know - I never said I was fluent. I am advanced, but sometimes 1 word can make the entire sentence different. I always translate from google, bing, and yandex to make sure I am correct. Many times the translation is horrible from those sites and I often understand the Russian better than the English translation.The moderator in here said to translate it. And I wanted to google translate it for everyone. I had a Russian woman here in my town try to translate it and she was confused also. Someone mentioned she may have been drunk when she wrote me. I did not think of that, but very possible. Sometimes, she helps her friend cleaning in a bar, but I do see her getting drunk - which i do not like. Now, I just need to find the refusal number 221,212,214 to see what I can do next. I am debating about traveling to Kiev, but I want more info before I hop on the plane.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 11:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Ok. I have the KEV number and checked the casefile status. The status says "Ready" for interview, but the last update was August 29th. I was on the NVC waiting for over 35 minutes for the KEV number - ugh. On the American embassy website in Kiev, I was trying to check the status, but when submitting my information, it says page request not found. I tried a different browser and it said the same. 

 

Yes, it is very difficult to communicate with her, but only when she talks fast. I can speak and understand Russian, but not at a fast pace. Every so often she gets in that mood as if I can understand speedy Russian. 

 

Also, on the embassy website it says "If your fiancée is not issued a visa, he or she will receive written notification giving the reasons for the refusal.  The refusal letter will explain either how to drop off the missing documents or how to schedule a second appointment.  Your fiancée will not be required to pay again." 

 

So, I guess she can schedule a 2nd appointment. If there was a supposed fraud indicator, then apparently I can do a waiver. I tried the DOS hotline; they will reopen in about 10 minutes from this post. Now, I will try to call the American Embassy in Kiev. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-25 10:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

When I try to get the number for the Vermont Center, I keep getting the National Customer Service for USCIS. I am trying to find the KEV as you suggested.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 23:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Yes, it is a google translation as I said I got it from Skype. I do speak Russian, but I do not have a Russian keyboard. Of course, I could use it in the translation, but it would take me forever. I am in the US right now. I  was confused at first and asked her - so you were denied because you did not have your documents. She said no, she had all her necessary documents, but the guy didn't take them. He asked the same question over and over but in a different way. Then she said she spoke to people outside and they said she can be interviewed again in 14 days. This is where I knew something wasn't right. I have read many things in here on my journey, but wanted to wait to post anything because I was so stressed out in getting all these documents to her and now I am being lied to about something. I just don't know what. I posted this soon after I saw the translation just to see if anyone has ever heard such nonsense. As people have said:

 

1. It isn't the reason. I have never been given what I would feel be a proper reason.

2. is this a total lie or a lot of exaggeration? I ask about exaggeration because she may be scared to tell me something. I spent a lot of time with her and I am surprised a lie would just burst out.

3. She said she didn't receive any papers and just her passport. Does everyone receive papers?

 

I worked on this process for a very long time to make sure all the paperwork was complete and accurate. I had no issue with the USCIS and no request for evidence. 


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 23:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Sorry, here is the translation.

"I just Natasha at the bar, she asked for help, it is today one works, all have flu! I went on a schedule and I took an American officer and asked all sorts of strange questions, I am all the original documents did not give, why is he at once began to bring down on the issues and the fun that asked the same questions of the same! He gave me a passport and said, 'Dosvilaniya', I asked, culturally, they give me a visa, he said no! I asked the reason, he said that I was with my beautiful data could not fall in love with you! I came out of the embassy and talked to people and they told me, I'll again I apply for a new job interview .... I'm at work tomorrow, but will go again on Thursday will file an application for the interview! And as I podskaschali that I have 14 days to file documents again! And I think that everything will be ok!"

 

Thanks, i will call the NVC and check and let you know what happened. I did do a timeline and it was actually right on schedule. Originally, my fiance's interview was last Tuesday but said she called the consulate to cancel it because she didn't have her medical exam done (that part was true). Anyway, I will check.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 22:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

I know some people in my previous topic think I am making this up, but I am not. The more I read, the more I get upset because I felt the way some of you have posted. Here is the Russian translation I received from my Skype after the supposed interview. 

 

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Why would I be lied to about this? If my fiance found someone else, why would she not just say so? Someone mentioned I was lying because of my screen name which is takinit2u - this is because I play texas hold'em along with many competitive games, but that is beyond the point. 

 

I need to check with the consulate in Kiev to see if she showed up, but how can I do this without the KEV number? I knew the 14-day thing was BS so either she lied about going or she definitely doesn't want to marry me which bothers me a lot from all that we have been through.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 21:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Thanks everyone for the info. Yes, I agree there is something not right here and I am checking. I worked in Ukraine for a year and lived with her for 3.5 months. Age difference = 9 years. I have almost daily skype evidence from day 1 in Ukraine, photos in Odessa, Kiev, Nikolaev. I have airfare returning on her birthday, etc, etc...She has never been denied a visa, no criminal history. She speaks little to no English, but I do speak Russian. She is asleep right now, but I will definitely be doing some fact checking. According to her, she was just given her passport back without papers.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 16:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

Can I sue for discrimination?


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 15:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVisa Denied because I am ugly???

In Kiev embassy Ukraine. My fiance said her visa was denied because I was ugly and she was too pretty to love me. This is quoted by an American officer - Is this not sexual harassment? Also, isn't there a law that requires a valid reason? I lived with my fiance overseas and we have been engaged for over a year. I currently am in America proving I can support her. Apparently, none of the documents mattered. I have plenty of evidence for a bona fide relationship as I was overseas working and that is how I met her. I lived with her for 3.5 months. Plenty of photos, etc. She said people outside of the embassy said she could interview again in 14 days. Has anyone ever heard of this? It looks like I will travel back to the Ukraine very soon. Any help here is appreciated.


Takinit2uNot TellingUkraine2013-09-24 15:09:00