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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

CaizLurol.....thanks so much for the information. I will check on finding an attorney if they can do pro-bono. Also I just want to tell you that you and yours are an adorable couple. I certainly hope that your journey will soon find you two together...God Bless....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-08-07 05:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

OF LG.....yes you are right....nothing is impossible....and I do believe our love is sincere in the best possible way. I want to wish you and your fiance good luck in your journey together. I am finding this is a long hard journey but my heart knows it is a journey I will take to the end. All I have to do is to see my fiance when he smiles at first sight of me....and I know I am blessed to have found such a wonderful person. I can look in his eyes and feel his love! It is amazing! I only hope that he can feel the beat in my heart and know that each one is for him.

 

And yes...this is a very good forum. The people are so caring, brutally honest (LOL), compassionate about their journeys and you can tell they want to help you in anyway. I have learned a few things here....still a lot I am not sure about....but the one thing I am certain of....is I love him and I know he loves me....no doubt!!! Now we just wait for further instruction on how to make our dream come true. Good luck to you...and hope the best for all of my friends from all over the world....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-30 21:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Donna,

The others have given you sound advice in dealing with the application and what to do/not to do to get approved.

 

Eric-Pris,

Yes...everyone here at VJ are great to reach out and help....and I do appreciate all the sound advise. Gives me a lot to think about and have raised new questions I may ask of him to clarify my feelings.

 

Yes he is a very hard working blacksmith. I am disabled, own my home and other assets. I do not have hard earned cash. All I have to offer him is a home and the love I have in my heart. To me if one is set on frauding another for personal gain....they would go that extra step to make sure that the one they are going to fraud has all the goods to make it worth their effort. My fiance knows my situation, he knows I own my home, my car, personal belongings. He knows I am disabled and that I do not have hard cash. This is one reason why he does not accept my offer for money to help in the visa process. He never has asked me for anything...nothing.

 

I realize there are vultures out there and have been taken by a few American Vultures in my lifetime. My fiance has paid all the fees on the application for visa. I have offered to send him money many times and he is adament about not taking money from me. In some ways he seems to take offense if I offer money for any reason.

 

Of course....we as humans live our lives with people we marry who years into the relationship may end up taking us to the bank. It happens everyday. So it is hard to determine if one is going to get to our pocketbooks at one time or another. Regardless of the circumstance in a relationship....each party needs to make sure that their assets are protected. I know here in Arizona we are not a "community property" state. Which means that prior to marriage anything that belongs to that person is not considered property of the other. Things accumulated "after the marriage" would be considered for possession of one or the other in a court of law. I know in some states that are "community property" states....any assets of one would be considered the other's property once the marriage is granted. In these states it is good to get a nuptial agreement.  So, as far as my assets....my home, car etc. I am fairly confident that I am safe. They are all in my name, my name only and that will never change. The only way one would get my home is if they are named in my will....and only then.

 

But there again....if I were to marry a man from the US instead of a man from Jordan I would still run a risk of being stripped of my belongings if that were his intentions. So as far as me marrying a man from Jordan, I am not any more worried then if it were an American man. Sadly, we never know what people in our lives, in time are capable of...regardless of nationality or how long we know them.  Many divorces end up in court with both parties fighting over possessions. It is humanly possible and it happens even to the best of us.

 

Thank you so much for your reply....this is a great service on Visa Journey to have people reach out to each other because the immigration process is not the easiest to understand or go through. I hope your journey is a good one and that you and the one you love are together....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-30 19:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Jennifer....thank you so much. I so hope that your journey will soon find you and your love together. You my friend have a good heart as well as the others here. Thank you all for reaching out to me. I will most definately keep working for Sameer and I to be together. That is my heart....Sameer is my heart. I will see where my journey takes me. Thanks Jennifer....and I will be talking to you as things transpire....God Bless You....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-25 16:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Dear Harpa and others.....please do not take my questioning or stating to your replies as me taking personal offense. I came here looking for help and have received an outpouring of compassion and concern. Thank you all so much....really....I so much appreciate your time, patience and understanding. You all are the reason I am here....I need help and understanding. I know that you all wish me the best and I appreciate it.

 

I have taken all that everyone has said to heart, to understand, to think, to know and to prepare. You all have certainly raised some questions in my mind. I pray that my fiance is not the type person to prey upon me for any other reason then that he loves me like he claims. I can say that it would crush me! I have prayed each and every day that God guide me though this. God knows my heart is in a good place, He knows what I want from all of this. I have asked Him to guide me to make the right decisions about my life and to know that the love within my heart is so real for me. Maybe this interuption in the petitioning process is for a reason. Maybe me finding this web site is for a purpose....who knows?

 

What I think I am going to do is to let this portion of the petitioning process run it's course and see if the requested information I can provide to USCIS will cause a decision. Then I will take it from there. I have put this in God's hands and I know that whatever the outcome, it is in my best interest according to God. In the meantime....I would like to continue speaking with others like yourselves so that I may gain some insight in all of this. Besides....I feel like I have met some wonderful caring people here who cared enough about my situation to take the time out of their lives to speak out to me. I truly am grateful to each of you!

 

I have heard each one of you and who knows..what you say to me may cause me to prepare for something I am not aware of or prepared for. What you explain to me may play a purpose in joining me and my fiance (Sameer) together someday. I would like to say that life is wonderful, but in my 53 years I have seen a lot. I also realize that love is blind and one heart does not always dictate to another. But, I can't help but feel that all Sameer has said and done at this point has been out of love for me. I pray that is the case, yet after 53 years of life....I am not sure I believe in fairytales. All I can do right now is to follow my heart, which is full of love for Sameer.

 

Thanks again....so much...my new friends.....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-25 16:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

GodLove....I may have to result in getting a lawyer and thank your for your response.  I also will take the other avenues to research other cases. Thank you for your faith in what I am claiming and giving me hope that this might be possible. Also thanks for your prayers and well wishing....Donna

 

 

 

Boiler....thanks so much for the information. It is amazing how you all are so willing to help me.....you do not know how much I do appreciate each and every one of you!! Also thanks for not sugar-coating things and explaining to me that there are difficulties to overcome in the immigration process.

If the following are the red flags you are pointing out to me, then yes...a couple of them would apply to my situation....

  • 1. Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;
  • 2. Proposals or discussions of marriage soon after initial contact;
  • 3. Requests to the U.S. citizen to visit the foreign national?s home country soon after the declaration of love or proposal;
  • 4. Responses to messages from the U.S. citizen friend are along the lines ?I love you/Sorry I missed your call,? or similarly            one-sided conversations;
  • 5. Once engaged, married, or an immigrant visa petition is filed, suddenly starts missing scheduled appointments to chat or call.
1. We have only known each other for a year now. So we would fall under this one because of declarations of love within weeks (seeming that there are 52 weeks in a year).
2. Again since we have known each other for a year...the proposal of marriage would also fall under within weeks.
3. My fiance has never requests me to come to Jordan. He knows that I am unable to travel that far due to my health.
4. My fiance always tells me he "loves me" and I him....and very seldom does a day go by we do not talk. I have saved all of our conversations since we have met and induced a relationship. We do not have one-sided conversations as this is how we have come to know each other. and those conversations usually do not include speaking about the visa or immigration, but about everyday life and our love for each other.
5. Again we speak daily and if I happen to have a doctor appt on a day and we are unable to video chat, my fiance always calls me via cell phone.
 
Entering into a marriage contract for the principal purpose of facilitating immigration to the United States for an alien is against U.S. law and can result in serious penalties, including fines and imprisonment for the U.S. citizen and the foreign national involved.
I am not and I strongly believe that he is not wanting to be married for the principal purpose of him gaining immigration to the US. Neither one of us have ever been in trouble in our lifetimes and USCIS has access to our backgrounds to find this out. I have always been a law-abiding citizen and would gain nothing in committing marriage fraud. All we want is to live together as husband and wife. I realize that fraud probably occurs through this process...but I also believe that many marriages of this type are for the right reasons and that they work as well as any other marriages.
 
 
Sarah and Adnan....thank you as well sweety....for your time and your passion to help me....
I am not personally able to travel to meet with him for many reasons including not only medical reasons but financial hardship as well. Now if it is necessary for us to personally meet before obtaining this visa....then he would have to travel to Arizona. That is not impossible, but we would need to know how to get him a travel visa to come here. I was told by an immigration officer at the onset of filing the petition that I should file the I-129F visa under our circumstances. I was told about the waiver of the personal meeting and nothing was mentioned that it was mandatory that we meet in person to be approved for the visa. Had I not been persuaded to file the petition I filed we would have tried everything  we could to get him a visa to visit me here in Arizona. I am not sure how to file for this type of visa...but if necessary and he could get a travel visa to come here....then this is what we will do. I can't say that I would not be willing to accept his visit here under a travel visa as it would probably be faster and we could be together sooner if only for a little while. My only concern would be if he visited and we were married and then he had to return to Jordan because of the laws of this particular visa, what happens if we cannot get him approved for a permanent visa to come back home to Arizona. This would leave me alone here in America, legally married but not able to live with my husband. I could not bear to think we could not be together after we married.
Or....if he is on a travel visa do we have to marry at that time? Or does he simply visit and stay for a while as we document our relationship and personal meeting...then he returns to Jordan then we file for the I-129F Visa? I don't know....that is why I am so confused. We want to be married and whatever we have to do to make this process work so we can live our lives together...we will do. Time is of essence due to my medical needs but I want to do this the right way. Based on my conversation with the immigration officer prior to filing the petition this was the way I was told to go. So now I am so confused on what to do?
 
As far as my fiance...he is 39 years old, claims never to have been married. This is the information he also gave on the visa application. His parents are both deceased and he is living with family. I have also met his sister and brothers via internet. I have spoken to many of his co-workers (friends) as well. He is a blacksmith by trade and a very hard worker. He has been with his employer for over 10 years. His family is quite fluent in the English language so it has been easy to speak with them.
 
A man going through nearly half his life unmarried is very strange and socially unacceptable.
I am 53 years old...was married once from 1980-1988. I have been single since that time (25 years) which does not make me strange or socially unacceptable. Here in America there are many, many men and women who are his age or even older that have never married or had children. Everyone's life is not necessarily the "norm" as far as marriage by a certain age due to many circumstances such as schooling, career or the fact that their social life is not that active. So this should not be a determining factor as to whether he is sincere in wanting a new life with a woman he loves. I know in my situation I have not had a personal social relationship history due to my medical problems as well as my geographical area is isolated from mainstream. Most of my social life has been by way of internet. I go a month at a time without seeing anyone in person. When life puts you in your place you may not have the ability to pursue any form of relationship.
 
You may see your relationship is love between two lonely people but they may see it as he wants a green card and she wants a nurse.
The only way I have to prove myself and love for my fiance to USCIS is to enter into marriage with him as they require (within 90 days). I don't want a nurse, I have medical care. What I do need is someone I love and who loves me that is willing to see me through life as any couple who marries do.
As per wedding vows...."Will you love her/him, comfort and keep her/him, forsaking all others remain true to him/her as long as you both shall live, to be my wife/husband, and before God and these witnesses I promise to be a faithful and true wife/husband, With this ring I thee wed, and all my worldly goods I thee endow. In sickness and in health, in poverty or in wealth, 'til death do us part."
 
Sweety....I thought this was not going to be an easy task and I will continue to pursue my love with every ounce of strength I have. I will do what is asked of me....I just need to know that I am doing things the right way, the first time and as they want so I can eventually be with the man I love as soon as humanly possible. I have needs....and so does he. The thing is that we both have committed to this relationship knowing the circumstances we both will face. There are many things we do not know about each other....but any couple who chooses to marry begins a new life in discovery of each other. That is how relationships grow. There are many things I do not know about my fiance....it took him a lifetime to acheive....and I realize I am not going to know these things in the time we have known each other. Same goes for me....and you...and your partner. We live and learn. But to deny me the opportunity to marry a man I profess to love simply because they think all he wants is a green-card....that I want a nurse....that he is Jordian....and I am American....that he or I are strange or socially unacceptable because of our age and the fact that we have never married or have been single longer then the "norm" is totally bias!
 
They should seek the facts....which USCIS is paid to do and base their decision on the facts they find. If a person's past shows they are law-abiding, hard-working and want the freedom to marry the one they choose to love and spend their life with, regardless of race or religion, then that person deserves that right. If they must provide such personal information to USCIS and it is shown that this person is pursuing their dreams through all the legal channels....then no one has the right to label this person as strange, socially unacceptable, committing fraud to obtain a green card, etc. unless USCIS finds evidence to support their ill-classification of any person as a fraud:

 

a : deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right

 

b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick

 

USCIS requires highly personal information on any application for visa for the purpose of a background check to prevent fraud or illegal actions. If there are no indications showing deception or misrepresentation to the facts provided then fraud should not be considered.

 

I agree with the background checks and the security measures USCIS must induce to protect our country and it's citizens. I am thankful that our country performs this securtiy measure. But when there is nothing to indicate anything other then two people from different countries who fell in love and want to be married and live their lives in America where one of them is a natural born citizen then USCIS should approve the petition for visa for their petitioned partner.

 

Again....thanks so much for the heads-up. I need to know these things as they will help me to prepare for all stages in my petition for fiance.

 

It's the State Department's job to seek out people with bad intentions and bar them entry to the US.

The State Department needs to focus and work on the illegal immigration of Mexican illegals across our borders. It is not fair to the rest of the world to allow these illegals to cross without petitioning for citizenship just like everyone else. This is a huge problem here in Arizona. Seems to me that immigrants who follow immigration laws to acheive citizenship legally should be considered without unbias scrutiny unless there is evidence from their background findings.

 

Thanks so much...for all your important points and suggestions. God Bless you and yours.....Donna

 

MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-25 12:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

jawaree, thanks for the well wishing and your prayers, very kind of you! I am not able to have the surgeries until I have support. Plus if something were to go wrong with the surgeries I would want to leave my assets with my fiance, as it is I have no one to leave my things to should something go wrong.

 

Thanks for the information about the VAWA thread....I will most certainly check it out.....thanks again...Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-25 00:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Boiler....no...I am Christian and he is muslim. We have discussed the difference in our faith in great depth.


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-25 00:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Thanks again....so very much and all your prayers are appreciated. Will take your advice and run with it....I will climb that mountain...because his love for me is worth every effort I can make to bring us together....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-24 21:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Jenafid....and Nursling....thank you both so much for your response. You all have given me lots to think about. This is a very discouraging process to say the least. I understand the need for the entire process. This does not affect my feelings and desires to become his wife....it only tells me I have a really big mountain to climb. I don't understand that at the onset of the application when they receive the initial paperwork and they know the situation...then why do they string you along giving you false hopes. If they know we have never met in person and they base their final decision on that one deterrent....then why do they keep you in limbo sending out requests for more information. Both he and I are good people and our background records will show that. All we want is the chance to live our lives together as man and wife. I have been so selective (and stubborn) in my years....and at age 53 I feel secure in my feelings for him. No one is promised forever....even the people who have met and then marry....there is no certainty that their marriage will last. I truly feel he loves me as well. I pray to God about all of this, it is all new to me....but God keeps giving me the strength to continue to pursue my happiness.

 

Also...I have lived alone with my disabilities for a very long time. However I am in need of future surgeries that I have had to put off simply because I cannot have them and function on my own for a very long time. So my medical needs are put on hold. That is not the only reason I have chosen to marry him....I love him, with all my heart. I have lived a lonely life by choice because I never met anyone I cared so much about since my past marriage over 25 years ago. I just pray that God knows and understands not just my heart and needs....but my fiance's as well. All I can do is put it in God's hands....which I have done. But I realize that I have to make an effort as well and do my part. Thank you so much for your suggestions, caring and kind wishes and prayers....I wish you all....Harpa, Jeff & Emmy, SA516, Jenafik and Nursling much happiness and I really and truly appreciate you taking the time to help me....God Bless!!....Donna

 

 

 


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-24 14:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

Harpa....thanks for your response....my fiance is 39 years old. There are 2 conditions that would waive the personal meeting.....(1) Filing an Extreme Hardship Waiver and/or ...(2) Violation of Customs.  My situation would fall under the 1st condition only.

Also what do you mean red flags? I know you must have been through the visa process....so what would make you see red flags? Please...thank you!...Donna

 

Jeff & Emmy....thanks for your response. What would he have to file to visit me here....or if you know where the information is that would explain the circumstances in simple language then maybe you can send me a link. We love each other....and I understand people who may think how can this be without meeting. I too wonder how people can fall in love at first sight....but I guess it happens. The only difference in us meeting in person and the relationship we have online would be sex, touch etc. I have known him for a year and we have been in constant contact since. I know him quite well, spoke to his friends...his family etc.

Thank you so much for your concern as well.....Donna

 

SA516....thank you as well for your prayers. I too have been praying and God knows my heart. Many times prayer is the only thing that works as God is not prejudice as some people might be when making a decision that would affect your life forever. Thanks so much!....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-24 13:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetitioning for my Jordanian Fiance'

I am an American Citizen. I am female, age 53 and medically disabled. I met my fiance a year ago online. Due to my disabilities my social life is acheived online. I met my fiance online and I knew in an instant that I loved this man. He is from Jordan, never married. He is a wonderful man and in the course of our online relationship he proposed marriage to me. I was married once in 1980 and divorced in 1988. I have been single all this time and a bit apprehensive to pursue a relationship with anyone. However, I fell head over heels for my fiance and want to be his wife. I accepted his proposal of marriage and started a petition for a I-129F Visa with USCIS. I have also filed to have our application expedited due to upcoming medical procedures I need. I need to have someone close to me to help me during this time. My fiance wants to be with me when I go through these procedures. My disabilities are those which I need assistance with everyday things. I struggle now to do the things I do, but I have no choice. I have put off the surgeries I need because I have no one to help me. My fiance wants to come to America and start a new life with me.

 

Anyway...we are at the stage in the visa application where USCIS is requesting a letter of intent to marry. I am not sure how indepth this letter needs to be so I can instruct my fiance on what to write. I  want to make sure USCIS receives all they need to prove our intent to marry.

Also...they are requesting proof of "Last Personal Meeting". As I have said, we have not yet met in person. We have corresponded by email, web cam, instant messenger, letters, telephone and video calls. We do this on a daily basis and have since the first day we met. A lot of people will probably wonder why we both want to be married without having a personal meeting. As I said it is impossible for me to go anywhere due to my medical disabilities. Flying in an airplane is not possible and there is no other way I can get to Jordan. I also have extreme anxiety and the thought of entering into a foreign country causes me to hyper-ventilate. I have never been out of the US. But, I love my fiance and want to be his wife. I want to do things right with him getting the proper visa so that we can live our lives in America. My fiance is a respectible man, hard worker, never been in trouble, never been married. I am so in love with him that I cannot imagine living the rest of my life without him.

 

This immigration process is very confusing for me. If anyone of you have been through this process and have any suggestions on how I can expedite the process and provide USCIS with the information they want so that my fiance can come to America to marry me I would appreciate any support or suggestions. I am so in love with my fiance and the thought of him not getting a visa would be an emotional disaster in my life. So if you can help me to better understand what to do to insure we are doing the right thing to obtain his visa....please reply to my. If you read this and you don't have any information for me, then I ask you for your prayers in that me and my fiance can be married and begin our new lives.....Thanks....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-24 12:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhere to marry ONCE in the US on a K-1?

Congratulations....may you have a long and loving life together....Donna


MzDaz396FemaleJordan2013-07-30 20:02:00