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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresThe RFE Master List

RE: Divorce Decree

All pages should be submitted not just the 1st page.
Fiance sent the 1st page only and we received this RFE.



also don't forget to check if it has the judge's signature... we sent the whole thing and got a RFE because he didn't notice it was missing.
LiszyandKennyFemaleBrazil2006-04-23 07:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
same as usual..
just show ties.
L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-07-09 15:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
I went through the Buffalo Peace Bridge & Lester B Pearson Airport (YYZ) in Toronto
L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-06-10 14:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
oh my god.

speechless.

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L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-05-25 17:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
I don't think the frequent visits go against you but a two month visit has got to be well documented that you're going back... Just see him being given a hard time at customs but should work out fine if he's well loaded with paper =)
L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-05-22 23:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
Went last week again for my SO's brother's wedding..

Took my whole file with me and it was a good thing I did...
The first agent (immigration agent) asked if I had applied for a K1 visa and then showed him the NOA1.. Also asked when I planned to move to the States and get married and I told the Officer that I had no plans yet because we're not sure when our visa will get approved. I did have to show him my return ticket and all that jazz..

He stamped my bus ticket - who knows why cuz you just end up giving that ticket to greyhound on the trip back! (I took the greyhound to buffalo and flew from there) and I asked him if he wanted to stamp my passport too.. "Do you want me to stamp your passport?" , "naw, it's alright"

The second (customs agent) saw my engagement and asked me again about the visa.. he then looked through my luggage, x-rayed the wedding gift I had packed and sent me on my way.. It was a bit longer than usual but not too bad b/c I had all my documents.

They weren't rude or anything though.. just thorough.

Edited by liz_legend, 22 May 2007 - 05:48 PM.

L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-05-22 17:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresYes, you can visit!
Went to the states recently and didn't have a problem either.
Was just asked why I was coming to the states. My answer: "I'm going to my boyfriend's brother's fiance's bachelorette in philadelphia, and from there, my boyfriend picking me up and spending the week in virginia with him."

Easy Breezy.

I did take proof though just in case.
L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-05-11 15:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresThe RFE Master List

We got a RFE because my fiance didn't send in enough proof of our meeting - he had to send in more evidence! It's not enough just to fill out the form and say 'we met on X date' - you have to provide photos too :) And then he got another RFE because they needed more financial information from him. Combined the two held us up for three months which seemed like an eternity but wasn't really a big deal.


Oh My God! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING YOUR POST UP! My fiancee did the same thing. He filled out the I-129F and the G-325A form, photocopied his passport, and sent a pass port pic for the each of us. I've been freaking out when I realized that no *proof* of our relationship was sent and have been contemplating send all that stuff in since we just yesterday got our NOA1 and the case number!

I've been beside myself thinking what if they just outright reject us cuz we didn't send enough proof in and don't even bother to send us and RFE!

Love you! =)

Liz :no:
L_n_OFemaleCanada2007-04-15 13:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow do they decide what location will process your K1Visa?

My forms were just received at TX dropbox so now I am wondering how they decide if your forms get sent to CA or TX processing centers....is it just luck????

Its is based on work load at each center. An effort is made to balance the volume. People always think there is some conspiracy going on but its just matter of the millions of petitions sent in every year.  


NingFemaleThailand2014-07-26 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDeclaration of Meeting - what are they looking for?

 

My husband only wrote "met through internet". But I asked him printed and attached our first conversations on YouTube when we first talked in 2008. On these conversations were very detailed how he contacted me first and started our conversations and decided to talk via Skype. We did not get RFE and got approved in 38 days for I-129F.

We simply wrote what G from C said which is acceptable and these days pretty normal. All they are really after is something that indicates it wasnt an arranged situation as we see at times.


Edited by Ning, 29 July 2014 - 09:32 PM.

NingFemaleThailand2014-07-29 21:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

The government couldn't care less whether your income is permanent or temporary - as long as the bottom line figure on your tax return is at least 125% of the poverty level.  And they'll have no way of even knowing unless you tell them

 

I'm not sure why you're even asking this question if your income last year was $43K.  Did you report all of that on your taxes?  Does $43K show up on your taxes?  If so, then you're absolutely fine!

 

If not, then you're still absolutely fine because really, all they care about is that you're at least at or above their minimum figure. 

 

I know to us, we would look at that and say, "Okay, you're slightly above the poverty level, but still, that's not really enough for two people to live on so we think there's still a risk your fiance will become a charge of the state."  That's how normal people would look at it.  But that's not the way the government looks at it.

 

The government looks at it like this...  "The law requires that your income is at least $XXXXX.  And yours is $XXXXX plus $0.01 - so you qualify."

 

You can send W2s from this year if it makes you feel more comfortable.  And I would do so if your reported income from last year is really close to the poverty level.  But if your reported income last year is comfortably above (and by comfortably, I would say $2,000 or more) the 125% of the poverty level for two people it's really not necessary. 

 

But when they look at your tax transcripts, there's nothing there that will say 'this portion of her income is stable and secure, this other portion is very risky and unstable.'  They won't know that unless you tell them.  So don't tell them!  All they'll see is your total income, and all they care about is that that number is above the poverty level. Although, if it's really close to it, it wouldn't hurt to send this year's W2's.

Perfect. Is there comfort in this? Only if its understood. So as I said this all comes down to a tax transcript that should be easily obtained and submitted.


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-18 17:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

 

Relax...take a deep breath...

no need to speculate on tax fraud because she wants some comfort 

on their financial qualification. 

 

Different people can worry over different things...

 

Heck, every other week there is someone worried over "black ink" or "blue ink"?

"Staple" or "No staple"?   

No need to think you are Dr Phil or that I need you to tell me when to breath.

Also no need to twist what I said. You, inserted tax fraud I suppose because you need to add some drama while saying she needs comfort.

I said early on that she indicates she understands she MEETS the minimum requirement. That should " comfort " her but it doesn't seem to be enough. Any indication of additional income will help but it sets the stage for USCIS to need to ask about that income and if the taxes are paid. Or do you think this wont come up? How do your comfort the OP on this issue? Do you think she will be ok just handing them a few paychecks that may indicate a possible income of either 43K or $43? Maybe you and the OP can read Jon Yorks post.

I don't need a lecture about anything I do from you and see no need for you to become the worry police. Blues, blacks and staples is what you come up with?

Could you at least give a list of worthy worry items so we can check them off as they happen?


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-18 17:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

I am a SHE, not "he".

Insert gender of choice.


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-18 17:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

Really? In that case I would be perfectly fine :joy:

So, I will prepare all possible fin docs for the interview, but will instruct my fiance' to only give them precisely what they ask for.

You, not your fiancé, will supply the required 134 form and any tax info required which is at least the most recent tax year filing with all supporting docs OR a transcript which is better in my opinion.


Edited by Ning, 18 August 2014 - 08:07 AM.

NingFemaleThailand2014-08-18 07:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

 

 

 

He stated $43K at the top of the post. 

Yes and then $ 43 so which one do you choose when giving important advise? Too busy to add the K so throws in a $ ? I don't know anymore than what I read.

 Did he ever acknowledge paying taxes on the entire amount?

If he knows the minimum standard & meets it what is the reason for the questions? Could it be what the tax info will reveal?

These income issues are very important to the success. A few paycheck stubs may not be the proof that is required which is exactly why the tax info is requested.

The OP states that even though he meets the minimum he still worries that they wont accept that income as sufficient. Why?


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-18 07:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

Are you saying, they will only consider my permanent minimal income, which is my most recent?

Or the last year number of $43 will be also taken into account?

I think what I said is clear but it takes into consideration that you paid the taxes on your entire income. If that is true than whatever that number is should do. Your steady income is above the minimum standard anyway so I don't see a problem.

" The last year number of 43 " ? You mean you made just 43 dollars last year?


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-17 21:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIncome warries for I-134

My sustainable income from permanent part-time job is rather small - under $2K per month, which is only a little higher than the minimum for the Affidavit. So, to sponsor my fiance' I only have monthly paystubs for that amount.But my annual income last year was actually $43K, since I am doing temporary projects for several companies, but I can't guarantee that part of my earnings. Will the consulate officer only consider the minimal,  unchangeable part of my income, which I will be able to confirm for the date of the interview (plus the paycheks copies, I was receiving for my projects through the year 2014)? Or the 2013 annual income number will be also taken into consideration? I am going to enclose the projects paychecks, showing that I am still with those companies, that helped me to earn $43 K last year.

Though the unchangeable part covers the poverty guideline for 2 people($19,662)  and even exceeds it a little, I still worry they might think that is not enough  :unsure: 

Please, share your experience, guys.

 

Use your income tax transcripts as proof of your income whatever the source is. Your most recent income is the most important. Your know income is high enough as you know so there shouldn't be a problem. The U S govt sets the standard. You just have to meet it to qualify.


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-17 19:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLived in the states

I just saw something that confused me, iam born in Sweden and did for the two past years live in the states, worked as an au pair (J1) visa,
Never overstayed the visa, police never stopped me, no tickets nothing. Do I need a police record (not sure what's it called) from my time in the states when filing the k1 visa?
I will list in the g235 my adress I had over there and also send a copy of my visa.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?!


Here we see the O P indicates no contact with the police in America. They are from Sweden so its a legitimate question.

 

Even if you are not aware of it, your record is meticulously kept by FBI and when it comes to your legal woes in the US, they just check the database if the need arises.

So, no you don't need PCC for your time spent in the US for US immigration purpose.

But if someone is immigrating to some other country, say Australia, and that person has spent time in the US, then one requests a FBI clearance.



Here you indicate the O P has a record " meticulously " kept by the FBI when it comes to " your legal woes ". You question if they are aware.

 

Ning,

Did you not understand what I wrote completely? I wrote FBI keeps a record of " your legal woes" ?
I see I need to word my post differently.

I meant to say when someone does something illegal in the US, that goes to the database. That's all I meant.




I understand what I read. I understand you indicate they have " legal woes " which of course they do not.

Please confine yourself to what you understand rather than questioning my understanding of what you yourself wrote.


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-31 11:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLived in the states

Even if you are not aware of it, your record is meticulously kept by FBI and when it comes to your legal woes in the US, they just check the database if the need arises.

So, no you don't need PCC for your time spent in the US for US immigration purpose.

But if someone is immigrating to some other country, say Australia, and that person has spent time in the US, then one requests a FBI clearance.



You are telling people the American FBI keeps records on every one in the USA? People are put in such a data base if and when they are involved in crimes not just because they are living in the USA as far as I know. Where did you get this info?


NingFemaleThailand2014-08-31 09:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresco sponsor question

My income doesnt quite meet the requirements so my parents have stepped up as co sponsor. Now there is some confusion as to if one of them can sponsor or since they file taxes together if they both need to. Now they both make well above the requirements so I was just trying to see if it is required of them to file jointly because there is only room for one person on the form. If there are any links you have or information please help. Id like to get this straightened out so we can start sending things for my fiance to have ready for his intervew.

Tia

Start by confirming if the embassy in whatever country you are talking about allows the use of joint sponsors.


Edited by Ning, 10 September 2014 - 08:04 AM.

NingFemaleThailand2014-09-10 08:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAMAZING CASE(Merged)

Request for Evidence

 

On September 25, 2013, we mailed a notice requesting initial evidence in this case. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the evidence requested. Meanwhile, processing of this case is on hold until we either receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires.

The above is my current status on the uscis website.

 

I would like to know if it's still possible to submit RFE for a K1 visa petition. The RFE date was last year September 25th, 2013. I called and was told it's still opened so i should send in the RFE. Is it possible since it's almost a year.

No idea who you called but if it was USCIS then do what they said. I doubt this case file is still open but if USCIS said it was then what choice to do you have? The RFEs I have seen including my own needed to be responded to within 90 days.


NingFemaleThailand2014-09-12 08:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMet a fiance Thru Craigslist

 

When question 34a asks where you "met" they mean when you met in person. The only time they want to know about how you first became acquainted is when they ask if you used an international marriage broker or not.

Then it certainly matters.


NingFemaleThailand2014-09-30 08:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMet a fiance Thru Craigslist

Aww really, i thought it wasnt acceptable, as the site has a bad reputation :(

If you know it has such a reputation why would you use it? I think the part your are talking about was shut down anyway. Really you just used the internet which is what many people do today. All that really matters is that you met in person and that you are not involved in some arranged marriage situation.


NingFemaleThailand2014-09-29 18:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMet a fiance Thru Craigslist

It doesn't matter where you met really. I met mine on QQ  :rolleyes:

It certainly matters which is why they ask.


NingFemaleThailand2014-09-29 17:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMet a fiance Thru Craigslist

 

Aww sure :) I will tell it to the interviewer :) thank you so much for the tips :)

Why are you so concerned that you used Craigslist? Its a web site which is acceptable to USCIS.


NingFemaleThailand2014-09-29 08:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresB-2 while K-1. Is there chance to get???

:goofy: Thank u, guys for moral supprt.... well, we also think that we can try -we haven't seen each other since may 2014 ...and now r looking forward to NOA-2, but yeah we would like to spend Xmas together and meet with his family) we think that it's a good reason to give me B-2 , cuz we filed K-1, cuz I will NEED to come to my native country to finish K-1 and omg we sooo want to be together asap, but LIGALLY. But lol noone knows what is on officers' mind , so mb our reason for us sounds good, but not for officials....idk 

 I am excited if they give me tourist visa, but as my fiance says- world doesnt end if it wont be approved . So yeah we will try) 

Your reasoning has zero to do with being granted a tourist visa. It always hinges on the same thing which is your ability to PROVE beyond doubt that you MUST return. That can be hard to do when you have a petition in place indicating your intent to immigrate. However all people holding any type of visa are considered intending immigrants.

Keep in mind that having a tourist visa doesn't mean you will be allowed entry into the USA which is done at the POE.

Spend your money bringing the other person to your country.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-07 08:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

 

1. I explained that. I can't help your comprehension issues neither will I repeat myself.

2. Ditto with whipped cream on top.

3. Your comment was directed at me. Glad you now changed your stance from "I did not say that"  to "I certainly did say that". Don't confuse yourself.

4. YOU instigated with your first comment to me. Stop instigating and provoking.

 

You have a rude manner about yourself that reflects in your comments.

If I want to encourage the OP because of his concern about the future and possible AP then butt out

if you don't like it and keep scrolling and focus on one of the other questions he raised but hell will freeze over before you think you can

control or bully me with how I answer any post.

You are so wrapped up in staying on focus and what it has to do with relationship but you have no problem to keep on derailing this thread

with nonsense directed towards me.

Since when can I not address ANY issue mentioned by the OP (future of relationship / support / AP  that is not in the form of a question,

are you the self proclaimed comment sceener or just  on control patrol ?

 

I suggest if you have anything else to say to me take it to a PM as that would be the correct etiquette or restrain yourself a little better and

LET IT GO.

 

 

KMA sweetheart.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-13 09:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

 

1. OP wrote this : i help support her, when she needs it and into the future while we navigate this journey together, and understanding the process helps plan for the future.

 

2. You should be concerned with TOS yourself.

 

3. Yes you did say exactly this : You aren't the only one that went on a long journey. Word for word.

No need to backpaddle.  My comment was directed to the OP and not you by the way.

 I don't have to ask you for permission to comment about a relevant issue as I perceive it and as it may impact his future.

I have not lectured you, however you addressed me first and I responded to you.

I won't even begin to tell you what you are not qualified to say to me.

You are off topic with your continued comments to me and derailing the thread.

There are other aspects that OP addressed and I am free to respond to it wether you like it or not.

I do not wish to engage further with your off beat comments to me.

Focus on responding to the OP, not me please.

# 1 Yes but what does that have to do with his relationship which was never part of his question?

# 2  I am concerned which is why I have to restrain myself about what you say and who you think you are.

# 3  I certainly did say exactly that. That involves many people not you. Word for word.

I didn't say you need to ask my permission nor your ability to perceive things. I don't care what you have to say until you involve me. If you don't care to engage then don't.

Read your last sentence over and over until you understand what the problem is. Maybe this is the problem after all; your ability to stay on topic. Relationships?


Edited by Ning, 12 October 2014 - 05:10 PM.

NingFemaleThailand2014-10-12 17:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

Does anybody know what exactly is involved with the back ground check of the beneficiary? Besides police reports and finger prints through the FBI etc, do they go back and check employment and education of the beneficiary? Do they go back and check the addresses for places she has lived? She doesn't have any criminal back ground or even a ticket for anything. (how bad can it get on a moto   :cry:? ). We were curious if some dude from the embassy is going to call or visit past employers or landlords?

How do you get relationship fears out of this or any of the other junk you are adding into the situation? Read carefully?

Chip? You better read your own stuff and be glad there are TOS to worry about here rather than your over inflated sense of your self.

I didn't say you were the only one. I said it wasn't about just your experience which has nothing to do with is question.

As you may be able to see his question is about some dude calling or visiting employers or landlords not his relationship.

Now try to concentrate on the actual question rather than attempting to lecture me. Your not qualified to do so.

 

 

It is you that is missing the core point of his concern.

Yes, it is about his relationship and the financial hardship it may cause him if he goes into AP due to the financial support for her.

Read carefully. What will or will not come up in "this type of case" is definitely not something you will determine.

I never said I was the only one on a long journey. Loose the chip on your shoulder.

Your defensive tone is not necessary.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-12 14:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

not concerned... curious of this process.. i help support her, when she needs it and into the future while we navigate this journey together, and understanding the process helps plan for the future.. Colombia isn't the USA.. here, information is pretty much standardized and readily available, like where to get birth records, background information... etc.. In developing countries, its not quite that easy, like all long form birth certificates are kept with the local notary that has greater authority than US notaries, and that needs to be tracked down, from 25 years ago, if you can even find the notary, (thanks be to God, its listed on the Birth cert. and they still exist).. Rules change depending  on the department, (state) in which a person lives, and even from municipality to municipality, for record keeping and a lot of other  civil processes. So, what would be quite simple here, in the States, can become quite burdensome and bureaucratic in other countries. A lot of that burden is the US Govt. is quite process oriented and driven by standardized rules (administrative law), that dictate how they operate. Even though consulate staff operate in host countries, its doesn't relieve them of these rules and law, since their authority in which they operate is granted by congress, and regulations that interprets said laws. We have rules of due process, which isn't granted to visa applicants, but they are entitled to have a consulate operate under the authority that was granted to them, not the consulate staff ride roughshod over the whole process, how they want, in a host country. It is doubtful that Bankok's consulate operates much differently than another consulate, except where there was higher risk of violating immigration law, but it is doubtful that they deviate much, through local standard operating procedures. That is why I made the comment who cares if something is listed as a bar or restaurant, when working in either is legal in the USA?. What is more important, would be dates of employment and job description verified through an official call to the business.   That is why I  asked about a letter from her employer stating dates of employment, and a simple job description, would help, given  remoteness, in relation to Bogota? If its a data base check, then why go through the trouble and have an employer write up a letter? However, if its more investigatory, it would seem beneficial. If an agency has a back log of files, anything to move the process along would be helpful.   Since a lot of the migration issues, and visitor visa issues came up was after 911, it would be quite logical to consider that is what they would be focused on, but not being through this whole K-1 process before  911 (navigated the CR-1process without problems), I figure the more information the better.  When something here can take hours or a couple of days, it can tack on months in developing nations, simply not knowing where to get it. ... out of curiosity, we were interested so we can plan for the long haul through an AP, or if its a quick and dirty data base check for criminal and terrorist ties? Even prostitution is hard to prove, unless its a legal business in the host country and records are kept, but in countries where it is illegal, then it becomes illicit and a negative response on an application would be hard to prove. Silence would become the beneficiary's best friend. However, as the beneficiary, it would be an issue if they listed unemployed for 5 years, because the first thought would be, " how does this person support them self?" It is doubtful that a host country would allow the US government to access its tax records for employment checks, or any other domestic and civil matter, for that matter, if there is no criminal complaint, just to satisfy its application process for visa issuance. That is why countries have Sovereignty laws, where they don't subjugate its citizens to another country's rule of law; that view of thinking left with the waning dominance of a colonization. If the host country has mutual need for information, then it is granted, If it is beneficial to the host country, as is  the case of terrorism, they would disclose it right away.  if not  Then one has to look at treaties, like tax treaties,  for specific issues. If there is no specific treaty, then you wait for consulate staff to visit the employer. The employer chooses to disclose or not disclose.

 

That is the long winded answer, why ask this question.  


Then, may i ask, why do we have to go to Primera Notary to get a copy of her long form birth certificate? Its because that is the notary which it was recorded. The Notaries have shelves of books with these records. Mexico is not Colombia, which is not the USA.


This is where the wind began by the O P s admission.

 

OP, your concerns are very valid. Someone that went through the process without a hitch will tell you that you are over analysing this.

Someone, like myself who had to endure AP for 16 months and then experienced a denial and had to start all over again ( 5 year relationship )

totally understands your concern and worries. Been there, done that, have the T shirt, talking from experience.

We are a genuine cople and truly love each other.

This journey has been an extreme hardship financially and emotionally. My savings are depleted and my health took a turn for the worse.

 

The US is standard in procedure to an extent, but it really comes down to the CO on that particular day and what his/her  "hunches" are about

your relationship. We had all paperwork in order and submitted #12 of evidence attesting to our bona fide relationship and still got denied.

For what reason you may ask ?

I confronted the CO personally and all I got was that she just had a " gut feeling" and that she thought our future marriage would
"not be a lasting one." When asked why and what her factual reasons were based on, she just shrugged her shoulders, there are none.

 

My point is even if you have this or that notarized and every t crossed and every i dotted, it comes down to what is in the head and "gut feeling"

of your CO and how he/she views your whole relationship. This can be an honest evaluation or it can be based on personal bias and assumptions

and speculations.

 

Unfortunately we have no recourse and there are no checks and balances, the CO has the discriminatory authority to either make that day a 

happy one or a day from hell.

 

My advice based on hardship experience with AP nonsense is to do what you feel you have to do but also know that overcompensating for

something may be viewed as suspicious by the CO and it may then cause them to start looking deeper.

Too much as well as too little can both be risky. It is up to you to find that balance that you are comfortable with after doing your research

and asking for feed back here. It sounds like wind to some but I understand the storm that was brewing and that we had to walk through all too well.

 

I wish you the best for your journey !

You aren't the only one that went on a long journey. This isn't about his relationship at all.

The O P hasn't been put in AP of course just fears some lengthy investigation by some unknown entity at the embassy into his fiancées job. 

He simply wants to know what he can do to present something to the embassy to offset their efforts into the unknown. Basically he is worried about something that wont even come up in this type of case.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-12 13:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

I am not here to argue with anybody, i simply asked a question..that is it.. maybe this isn't the best or welcomed place for advice.. sorry for occupying your time. 

thank you


Thanks,i appreciate it


I don't see it as an argument. You have had your question answered several times but want to insert a lot of windy info yourself that has nothing to do with your question simply in an effort to be right. You remind me of why these visas take so long because here we see an example of a U S government professional bureaucrat spending incredible time on something other than what is required.  

No need to apologize for how I use my time. I am here to help just as the other members are. Its up to you how you want to perceive that effort.  

Good luck in your quest.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-12 10:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

Maybe  I am confused. When I fiancee and I discussed this, she went to the civil registry in Colombia, and was told she needed to go to the Notary office where the  birth was recorded in order to get a copy of the original. Well, that was no easy task  because she didn't have a clear copy of it either, and as such, when I go at Christmas, we will travel to city where she was born, to go to the Notary office where it is kept. On the top of the ragged copy she had, was the name of the Notary that which the BC was registered. I googled it, and as such, it was not a government office, but a long established private notary. On their webpage, it addressed how to obtain copies of the original BC.   I know the process how the attorney here told me to document any prepared documents, like then intent to marry, and the notary office, in Colombia,  notarized hers. It was not an apostille, it was a private notary.  I did the same here, with the translation, and I had mine notarized. The immigration attorney here, is quite familiar with Mexico's rule of law, and that of central and south american countries, and where to obtain documents and document their existence, since latin america is about 99% of their practice. He told me exactly how to deal with this, the purpose of the notary, in the eyes, of USCIS and the NVC. I understand the difference between legal systems. I also understand, after being quite familiar with Colombia, over the last 7 years more, the bureaucratic system in which the government operates. Yes, I do understand how Notaries work. I do understand Apostilles, and I do understand the difference of civil registry and the notaries in Colombia. Here we call it the vital statistics office, and it is decentralized to the state level. Private notaries here don't have an office and don't archive documents.

 

i wasn't asking about all of this, i simply asked a question if there was a way to document her employment, in a manner in which to avoid undue AP time, if in fact it was an issue for the post interview back ground checks, given the remoteness, in relation to Bogota, in city which she lives? If its data base mining, then it doesn't matter, if its investigatory time, then it seems it would carry some weight.   Sorry for taking up so much of your time with this.. 

 

regards

I believe a lot of this " wind " is blowing in the wrong direction. Your understanding of notaries and when they are required is flawed. The translations for example do not require a notary. Nothing wrong with paying one but there is no reason to do it.

Your actual question is about this womens job. All she has to do is list that job. The embassy isn't going to be concerned about one lonely hairdresser in some remote village.

You have told us in may forms that Colombia isn't Mexico or the USA ect until you have worn the point out even though every person here didn't need you to explain it. Its just more wind.

Accepting the fact that you are correct about the above what makes you so concerned about preparing for an event in a country you say you understand better than most that wont occur? Do you have any info from any source that causes this concern? Members here have said that we don't see this problem in cases from that country.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-12 09:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

the notary, by verifying the signature to an official document, like a colombian cedula card, attests that in fact is the signer on the document.  the signer, under perjury, attests, when they sign it, that the information is accurate and correct.. yes, i am sure they would go verify, but at least the verification is to a written document, rather than verbal evidence based on an investigator posing as a fictitious friend..which to me, would be shaky at best, since it could be pleaded that the investigator coerced or manipulated the witness, which for the USA, could be inadmissible. Here, in the states, the investigator has to present credentials showing they in fact who they say they are, under due process statute. A government employee, in a public trust position, would violate that pretty quickly if credentials were not presented to a witness. This would even be required for a foreign national contractor, since they are representing the US Government, when they are investigating. this part i am not worried about, its the long AP lines, if they get to the minutiae of the application it could tie up a petition for months, in a rural area.. I really doubt a 25 year old woman, that hasn't lived outside her city her whole adult life, never married, and no children, no arrest record, would be too suspect in the eyes of anybody.. especially, by the time we have our consular visit, we would have spent 30 days in six months together, with more than half of it, with her family and friends, over Christmas and the new year, in her family's house.. 

So knowing all of this why are you concerned? The case seems simple to me.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-11 23:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

The In Colombia's case, the Notary attests that the person signing the document is the person he factually says are and records the document. The person, under perjury, attests, at the time of signing, that the content of the letter is factual and accurate. That is the purpose of Notarizing it. No, it is not high level evidence, but for me, when I look at documents, a notarized document gives me a level of comfort, though not overwhelming comfort.

Interesting. I wonder how the notary would know what is factual and accurate? They must do the background check about all the info in a document which in Colombia must take some additional time. In Thailand this would take many months.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-11 21:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

interesting, now how would they know if its a restaurant or bar?  Or really care?.. Seems like the job discription of pole dancing rather than cleaning,  would be more of a concern?  many restaurants and bars are combined and classed as either, and why months of research? and in some developing country, the US Government would spend resources to verify if a person is in fact a yoga instructor or parse out if a restaurant is actually a bar or visa versus? In a lot of developing countries, jobs are fluid, as are businesses.  A lot of activities are legal in countries, or the host country turns a blind eye toward it, but illegal here. that seems more of an issue. My ex-wife, who was Colombian, worked for her plastic surgeon brother, free lance respiratory therapist, and sold avon products, just to make close to the country's minimum wage..when we went through the CR-1 process, nobody was contacted... What my curiosity was about, to what extent does the embassy go, when they don't have access to the host county's records to verify information in the beneficiary's country? My fiancee is in a small town on the pacific coast of Colombia, 11- 15 hour bus ride from Bogota.She has lived at various places every year for five years, and is a hair dresser shop assistant.  It just seems like a lot of resources and work go over each item. i work for the US government in a sensitive classed job as a federal agent, and we get more concerned about material misstatements, like not disclosing an arrest, when in fact there was one, or if she was arrested for prostitution, when she claimed she was not? not if a restaurant is actually a bar or minutiae if a person is in fact a yoga instructor?   I am going to go down to Colombia over Christmas and may have her get a letter from her employer, notarized, about her job, and her current landlord that she lives where she lives, notarized, and give to the embassy during her interview.. seems like the best way to avoid AP. We had a clerical error  on job and education dates, (off by 6 months), for employment. if in fact they choose to travel to enquire about her job, this may simplify things.

They know by the name of the place many times. They care because they wont grant visas to hookers. They checked in that case simply because of some info she gave trying to be honest. Many months because they don't send some guy like you out of his government office to do the work. In this case its Thailand where things take a long time or seem to for an American.

I know of cases where the embassy has spent resources to check into the background info given about a biological father for example. In one case they spent about 5 months on this and in the end would not issue the visas for the children.

The embassy at times hires people or companies to do this work. The results are questionable to me but they don't seem to have much choice if they want further info.

If the embassy in Bogota suspects your fiancée or working with the FARC or drug dealers they will investigate. If she is simply a hairdresser there is little to worry about. My husband has lived in Colombia and says they don't have a sex industry there that brings in over 600 million dollars per year as in Thailand. Of course the drug business is far larger but its mostly export not employing the volume of people we have.

Keep in mind that notaries simply verify signatures and have nothing to do with the content of documents which is why most embassies don't require the use of them. Of course you can spend resources on that just as you suspect the embassy would not to convince them the docs are real.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-11 17:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

But before the AP they never ever do so, to my belief.

You will have to believe what you want based on what you know.

In two cases I helped with the beneficiary was investigated due to something that was stated in their submission to the embassy. One for example simply said she was employed in a restaurant where there was bar. She was employed to clean and nothing more. It took 90 additional days for the investigation by the embassy that revealed what she had indicated was true.   

In another the person said she was a yoga instructor. She was investigated for months.


What if the beneficiary has lived in US? Like me who lived 8 years?

The US doesn't produce police reports on people. You could be subject to an FBI check I suppose if USCIS feels there is reason to do so.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-11 14:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

How exactly does it go? Do they go into the beneficiary's country police database and check for those fingerprints? 

In my opinion no security checks on the beneficiary are possible, and they never happen.

In Thailand for example in some cases the embassy  certainly does check into the persons background. There have been cases right here on V J where the person was put into A P while they sent people to locations where the person worked to check the info.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-11 09:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresback ground checks on beneficiaries

Does anybody know what exactly is involved with the back ground check of the beneficiary? Besides police reports and finger prints through the FBI etc, do they go back and check employment and education of the beneficiary? Do they go back and check the addresses for places she has lived? She doesn't have any criminal back ground or even a ticket for anything. (how bad can it get on a moto   :cry:? ). We were curious if some dude from the embassy is going to call or visit past employers or landlords?

The FBI? They don't keep records on Colombian citizens unless they are connected to drug deals or the Farc.

Does some " dude " from the embassy travel around checking? No. The police report is done thru the police headquarters. The other checks are expanded if there is reason to think the person was involved in things such as prostitution ect.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-10 22:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUS immigration when entering the US

hi guys, i am flying in to America on oct 30th! i just want to know from you guys' own experience if people with k1 visa get stopped at the US customs? and by stopped i mean not just speak to the officer but get actually stopped by being taken some place else to be asked more stuff. i am asking if that is how it is for everyone with k1 visa because a friend of mine that is also from Poland was stopped and i just want to know if that is the case when it comes to all of us.

 

 

they would be pulled in to secondary questioning by immigration. It happens to everyone entering with a k1 or cr1. They asked my husband a few questions  and let him through in less than 5 minutes. Some people are questioned much more extensively and have to wait much longer. Not sure why you are putting such an emphasis on customs, that;s the easy part

The the OP asked about customs.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-09 08:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUS immigration when entering the US

 

I wish I had seen this post when you originally started it. It seemed like NOBODY understood what you meant lool, even though you explained it as clear as crystal. As soon as I started reading the responses I was like ' :blink:  confused face', that's not what they are asking lol. I'm not sure if they'll 'stop you', stop you because it's clear what your intentions are and it's evident that you have all the legal documents you need to stay for the allotted 90 day period in which you have to wed. Although I'm not a K-1 holder, I've travelled to the US quite a few times since my fiancé moved back September 2013. This year I've travelled 4 times and on one of my trips I only had a week back home before I flew back to America. Each time they just asked why I was there and stamped me and sent me on my way. Like I said that's not with a K-1 so that information was pointless lol. However I don't see why they'd need to stop you as they know that you're not trying to stay illegally, you're actually there with a Visa.

Nobody? Really? He explained it a clear as crystal? He asked about U S customs.


NingFemaleThailand2014-10-08 17:33:00