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Asia: SouthAhmedabad's PCC Process
QUOTE (hopingforbest @ Apr 22 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vishal,

Thanks for your input....much appreciated. I'll just go ahead and send the DS-230 without the ahmedabad's passport office PCC and hopefully they'll approve it. Do I have to attach a letter that I was not able to obtain the passport PCC since they requested a letter confirming the PCC or will they just assume that this was the reason? Also, instead of original birth certificate and marriage certificate, I'm assuming that certified will be okay?

Thanks in advance.



Yes you need to attach a note stating that you wont be able to get PCC till u subbmit the interview call letter so you will obtain the same once ypu receive your interview call letter and subbmit it at the time of interview...

and certified copy is ok but that has to be cirtifief by the issuing authority. and not the notrized copy.. if possible send the original copy to make sure u dont have to face RFE. and its safe to send the original cirtificate to nvc...

All the very best...

Regds
Vishal
vishalMaleIndia4/22/2009 22:34
Asia: SouthAhmedabad's PCC Process
QUOTE (hopingforbest @ Apr 22 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sara,

Thanks for the response. I've read ALL the threads for Ahmedabad's PCC and they don't reflect the current process. It seems that this passport office changes their mind all the time. Before they only wanted to see the DS-230 cover letter with I-130 approval, but now they want a letter from NVC on missing document that PCC from passport office is missing or required. This is why I created a new thread just in case someone is going through my similar situation and has some input into this.

Appreciate anyone's response in advance.



Hie,

Yes i had to go through this pain... but what i'll suggest is send the DS-230 to the nvc with the Original Birth Cirti, Marraige Cirti, and the local police clearence. and this should be enough. as nvc has changed some rules and as per nvc if u r not able to get the PCC from the passport office without the interview call letter then u can crry the PCC from passport office at the time of ur interview... Read the line in bold...
India- Passport Office Police Certificate:All Indian IV applicants aged 16 and over, residing in India, should obtain police certificates from thelocal Passport Office. These are usually more dependable than those obtained at a local level andindicate that the subject had no serious criminal convictions on the record at the time of passportissuance. Applicants whose Indian passport was issued within the past six months may present just thePassport Office Police Certificate, and need not obtain additional police clearances. If you are unableto obtain the Passport Office Police Certificate without an official request you will need to apply once receiving your Interview letter from the National Visa Center and bring the document at the time of your visa interview

And once you receive the interview call letter go the the passport office and get the pcc done.. they will ask for 2 passport size photo, copy of the passport, and the original pcc from anand's police station. So please keep a colour copy of the pcc from anand's police station. and get a photograph stick'd on it and get it stamped from the anand's police station. As u would have aleady subbmited the same to the NVC. u can subbmit this new stamped copy which will be considered as original. i did the same.

So dont worry and go ahead and send the DS-230 with the documents u already have.. this should save ur time...

Rgds
Vishal
vishalMaleIndia4/22/2009 11:02
Asia: SouthAhmedabad's PCC Process
QUOTE (hopingforbest @ Apr 22 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd appreciate if someone can help with Ahmedabad's passport office to obtain PCC.

We have completed local pcc from anand's police station, signed by local tax collector, and signed by Gandhinagar office. It seems that ahmedabad's passport office is saying that they require a letter from NVC that PCC document is missing and they need it. Without this missing document for PCC the ahmedabad's passport office will not give the PCC.

Do you ask NVC to send a letter stating that passport PCC was required or do you send the DS-230 application without the PCC and RFE was generated asking you to provide PCC? I just want to speed up this process so any help you can provide is appreciated.

Anyone going through ahmedabad's pcc process currently?



Hie,

Yes i had to go through this pain... but what i'll suggest is send the DS-230 to the nvc with the Original Birth Cirti, Marraige Cirti, and the local police clearence. and this should be enough. as nvc has changed some rules and as per nvc if u r not able to get the PCC from the passport office without the interview call letter then u can crry the PCC from passport office at the time of ur interview... Read the line in bold...
India- Passport Office Police Certificate:All Indian IV applicants aged 16 and over, residing in India, should obtain police certificates from thelocal Passport Office. These are usually more dependable than those obtained at a local level andindicate that the subject had no serious criminal convictions on the record at the time of passportissuance. Applicants whose Indian passport was issued within the past six months may present just thePassport Office Police Certificate, and need not obtain additional police clearances. If you are unableto obtain the Passport Office Police Certificate without an official request you will need to apply once receiving your Interview letter from the National Visa Center and bring the document at the time of your visa interview

And once you receive the interview call letter go the the passport office and get the pcc done.. they will ask for 2 passport size photo, copy of the passport, and the original pcc from anand's police station. So please keep a colour copy of the pcc from anand's police station. and get a photograph stick'd on it and get it stamped from the anand's police station. As u would have aleady subbmited the same to the NVC. u can subbmit this new stamped copy which will be considered as original. i did the same.

So dont worry and go ahead and send the DS-230 with the documents u already have.. this should save ur time...

Rgds
Vishal
vishalMaleIndia4/22/2009 10:59
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 pending
Thanx to all for the reply.

Hi peter
i know People who filled in jan-feb 2008 are still waiting for approval. But i have also came across the cases where in people who filled on 29th on may 08 got the approval on 1st of december. so was a bit confused.

Orlando,
Our case has been transffred to california service center and they are proccessing the current files.
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-06 01:36:00
K-3 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 pending
Hie All,
I have got married to a US Citizen in March 2008 and My wife has filed our paper work on 19th may 08 i was wondering how long the process will take.We have filed and sent my paper work to Vermont Service office.

till Nov 6 the status on USCIS was "File received and pending"
but then after it has been changed to "This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred"
what does this mean?
What can be approx time to go for the approval.

I would appreciate if somebody could help me out understand it better.
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-05 02:29:00
Philippinesaddress for visa delivery....
QUOTE (geren @ Jan 31 2009, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello VJ families, need your help pls. I want to address my visa in Manila so where will I put it in DS forms? Thanks in advance.

Geren


Hie
The visaj/passport will be deliverd at the address mentioned in DS-230...

vishalMaleIndia2009-01-30 23:57:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWE GOT APPROVED!!! :)
Congratulations! Good luck.
Hope rest of us get the good news soon...
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-06 23:42:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresQuestion about RFE ???
QUOTE (Hollis @ Dec 19 2008, 02:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys,

Quick question. How do you know when you get an RFE.. [b]NOT THAT I EVER WANT ONE [/b]... no0pb.gif no0pb.gif no0pb.gif no0pb.gif no0pb.gif but I just wanted to know how do they notify you. Is it sent via CRIS or they send it in the mail ??

Any reponses greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Good luck to all good.gif



Yes they will send it via mail..
can chk the status online it looks like

Receipt Number: EACxxxxxxxxxx

Application Type: I130, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent

On December 16, 2008, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the requested information. This case will be in suspense until we receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires. Once we receive the requested evidence or information and make a decision on the case, you will be notified by mail. If you move while this case is pending, call 1-800-375-5283 to update your address.

m still waiting for a letter from USCIS for the same. m eager to know what the hell do they need now..
its been a really long wait...



vishalMaleIndia2008-12-19 03:53:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI130, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN
QUOTE (Y_habibitk @ Dec 16 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Send in your response pronto and expect something soon smile.gif
everytime i see someone have an rfe..they get an answer shortly thereafter. they have opened and looked at your case, thats a good thing
good luck and i hope you hear something soon



Thanx alot.. Hopefuly get to listen something good from USCIS soon. It's been a really long wait time.
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-16 23:41:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI130, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN
Receipt Number: EACxxxxxxxxxx

Application Type: I130, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent

On December 16, 2008, we mailed a notice requesting additional evidence or information in this case I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN. Please follow the instructions on the notice to submit the requested information. This case will be in suspense until we receive the evidence or the opportunity to submit it expires. Once we receive the requested evidence or information and make a decision on the case, you will be notified by mail. If you move while this case is pending, call 1-800-375-5283 to update your address.

Should i be prepared for another LONG wait????

vishalMaleIndia2008-12-16 23:31:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDon't want No More Touches...Because I got approved
QUOTE (Aman @ Dec 18 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif

Well thats the best bhangra dance on the newt


I got approved....223 Days after NOA1...But I am not complaining.....Better late than never...Best part...No Transfer to CSC..... Was approved by THE VERMONT SERVICE CENTER


I am so Happy...........

Hope all of you who are waiting for your NOA2, get approved soon.....



Many Congratulations Buddy..
Hope rest of us get the approval soon...
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-18 23:55:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresPCC Ahmedabad India
QUOTE (yash_ash @ Dec 27 2008, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
vishal from what i know is that you will need an interview letter before you can get a PCC from passport office.



Hie Yash,

Thanx alot for the reply..
So does it mean that i wont be able to get the PCC dont before my I-130 getsw approved...

Hummmm.... Think still a long wait ahead....

any ways thanx again...


vishalMaleIndia2008-12-27 11:24:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresPCC Ahmedabad India
QUOTE (kaushalia @ Dec 27 2008, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, Vishal, ki haal chaal? I just spoke with my fiance, and he has lived in Delhi more than 5 years (I do not know if the length of stay is a requirement) but he got his from the local police department and the passport office. I hope that helps! Good luck biggrin.gif



Hie Kaushalia,,

Haal !!! dont ask any thing about "Haal". Haal to vadda ganda he.. Cause of this long long wait for the approval u know..
any ways thanx a ton for the responce..

take care...
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-27 11:22:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresPCC Ahmedabad India
Hello,
Can any one guide me about the steps on obtaining a PCC. I live in Ahmedabad, India. is the PCC to be obtained from he local passport office or from the police dept?
This thing is my file for I-130 is under process and i m expecting the approval in near future and i dont wish to spend more time waiting for things. so just wanted to know if i can obtain the PCC before my I-130 getting approved???
and what is the process for PCC.

Awaiting some reply's soon..
Merry Christmas to all..
all the best have fun and take care...
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-27 02:55:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedureshow do i give them my email?
QUOTE (taj'samericanwife @ Jan 8 2009, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how dooes the USCIS know the email address of the petitioner? its not on the I 130 form or the G235a form? will i have to register online for them to know my email and so i can recieve updates on my casE??



Hie,

U can use this link and get ur email address updated so that u can recieve th updates on ur case..

Fill out the details asked for...

https://egov.uscis.g...ectusertype.jsp

Regds
Vishal.
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-08 23:20:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresNovember transfer....Still waiting
QUOTE (Asher978 @ Dec 26 2008, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is anyone else still waiting for an approval after they were transfered in november?



Hie asher,
yes even our file got transfred on 6th november and we are awaiting the approval.
but yes we have received the RFE atlist. and have subbmited the needed documents..
hope to get the good news soon..

best of luck...
dont lose hope...

vishalMaleIndia2008-12-28 23:43:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 Approved
Thanx a tone to all of you...
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-15 22:44:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 Approved
Receipt Number: EACxxxxxxxxxx

Application Type: I130, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Current Status: Approval notice sent.

On January 13, 2009, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.



Hi all you ppl out there thanx alot for all your support.... thanx very much...
filnally got the approval after a long wait of 7 months....

Guys what next?? can any one of you pls let me know the process after the approval..
Few questions....
How long will it take to get the package from NVC?
Any useful step at NVC?
What number should i call to get out case number?

Regds
Vishal Shah

Love you all...
Thanx again..
All Of u take care.
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-14 09:20:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCan I do a hand write on I-130 and G-325A
QUOTE (lilies @ Jan 23 2009, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

I have questions about those forms. I have two middle names and the space is not enough if I type it, so can I just simply hand write my middle names on there? My other question is, in family name box, which one I should put in there? My husband last name or my maiden last name? Thanks.



Hie

Yes you can write the things which you are not able to write/type on the form on a blank paper with BLACK INK and under sign the same. And attach it with the form.
And the second thing u asked was about ur middle name...You have to write ur middle name before the marrage...

Rgds
Vishal Shah
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-23 00:13:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
QUOTE (oana @ Jan 28 2009, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jan 13, 2009 petition aproved smile.gif too ... waiting for the set of forms ,,,



Hie oana,

Well come, and all the very best for the NVC journey..
Lets hope that the NVC journey goes smooth for all of all...

God bless



vishalMaleIndia2009-01-28 08:36:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Hie all
No updates for any of us????
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-28 02:03:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
hi all.....
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-26 00:18:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Hie any Updates????
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-24 08:39:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
QUOTE (Noah+Olga @ Jan 22 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
check my time line updated..already in transit to embassy=) almost there!!



Hie how did you found the time line?

vishalMaleIndia2009-01-23 00:21:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
QUOTE (Matthew123 @ Jan 21 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (vishal @ Jan 21 2009, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hie,
We have revceived the approval letter from USCIS
and the Case number has been generated at NVC today..
the operator asked me to wait for next 2 to 4 weeks for furthure process...
which i doubt that it should take such long time..


do u guys have any updates????


We got approved on the 12th janaury and ive been trying to contact the nvc. I can't seem to get the number to work. can someone please help me



Hy Matthew...
Did you talked to the operator??
call up 16033340700 then press 1 and then 5 .. u will be able to talk to them and then give them the CIS rec number and they will verify some details and will give you ur NVC case number....
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-22 00:15:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Hie,
We have revceived the approval letter from USCIS
and the Case number has been generated at NVC today..
the operator asked me to wait for next 2 to 4 weeks for furthure process...
which i doubt that it should take such long time..


do u guys have any updates????
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-21 12:26:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
QUOTE (hniHnitsuJ @ Jan 20 2009, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Submit on August 2008, no news yet. Hopefully, I will approving soon, and will joy with you guys. Good luck to all.



All the best buddy.....
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-20 09:14:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Hie All....

Any Updates???
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-20 00:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
QUOTE (Aman @ Jan 19 2009, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NVC is closed on Monday for KML Holiday



Ohhh Dint knew that...
any ways will wait for tuesday then...
as it is it's been a long wait for the approval and its just ther first step at NVC...
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-19 04:27:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Hie all,

All of should expect to get the case number generated by 2mrw i.e monday...
lets hope for the best ..
hope Nvc journey goes smooth.....

all of u take care....
all the best...
vishalMaleIndia2009-01-18 23:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approval after 10th Jan 2008...Let's work on this together.
Anyone out there approved on or after 10th jan 2008? My case has been approved on 13th jan 2008 but no case number assigned yet @ NVC. What about you?
Let's work on this together.
And hope the NVC journey dont last for too long for all of us...
All the best to all...
Keep updating any move on your cases...

Regds
Vishal.

vishalMaleIndia2009-01-18 04:07:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMay 2008 Filers
QUOTE (anu & lee @ Dec 21 2008, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Aman @ Dec 19 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have every thing ready...apart from this Bangalore PCC....The Police in Bangalore are craeting 100 problems, and the biggest issue is that I am a Punjabi and every time I go to check on my status they start talking in Kanadda



Hi Aman..
Congrates for your approval good.gif good.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif ..I am too from Bangalore and recently got the PCC from commisioner's office...By the way where are you stuck...PCC from commisioner's office? or PCC from passport office ?...I got the PCC from Commisioners office within 2 weeks...and waiting for PCC from Passport..Let me know if i can help in getting some info for you

cheers


Hie,
Have a question, may be a stupid one.
What is this PCC and is it needed for every one, and can i get this PCC done before getting the approval in orde3r to save time??

Awaiting a reply.

vishalMaleIndia2008-12-22 02:07:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMay 2008 Filers
Hy Thanx alot for the reply RAJA.

And Congratulations to you for the approval..
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-11 04:28:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMay 2008 Filers
Hie All,
I have got married to a US Citizen in March 2008 and My wife has filed our paper work on 19th may 08 i was wondering how long the process will take.We have filed and sent my paper work to Vermont Service office.

till Nov 6 the status on USCIS was "File received and pending"
but then after it has been changed to "This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred"
what does this mean?
What can be approx time to go for the approval.

I would appreciate if somebody could help me out understand it better
vishalMaleIndia2008-12-10 08:36:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresInfo Needed
QUOTE (waithatter @ Feb 5 2009, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (vishal @ Feb 5 2009, 04:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

Just wanted to know for how long is the Police Clearance Certificate is valid for from the date of issue.I live in INDIA, Ahmedabad. and i have got the PCC done today now god knows when will NVC ppl ask for it..
So was a bit worried that if it will be valid till that time or not!!!

Regd's
Vishal



Its valid for 1 year. Did you get both pcc, one from passport office and one from local district police station?



I have got it dont from the local police. and from passport office is yet to be done..
so should i go ahead a get it from passport office too ???

vishalMaleIndia2009-02-05 09:10:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresInfo Needed
Hi all,

Just wanted to know for how long is the Police Clearance Certificate is valid for from the date of issue.I live in INDIA, Ahmedabad. and i have got the PCC done today now god knows when will NVC ppl ask for it..
So was a bit worried that if it will be valid till that time or not!!!

Regd's
Vishal
vishalMaleIndia2009-02-05 05:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresAOS & Visa Fee Bill
Hy
we have sent a money order for our AOS & Visa Fee Bill on feb 06 09.
Any one have ne idea how long should it take to get the paid status??
its already been 11 days now..
how long do v need to wait?
vishalMaleIndia2009-02-17 09:25:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresAOS & Visa Fee Bill
Hie all,

We have sent our AOS & Visa Fee Bill on FEb 6th 09. we have not paid it online.
How long does it take to be updated?
any one of u have any idea about it??
and once its paid whats the next step?

Rgds
Vishal shah
vishalMaleIndia2009-02-15 09:22:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedureslawyer Vs Self
QUOTE (CitizenNov_k3 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My current status : Approved I-130 & and paid AOS and IV fee.
I used Lawyer to file my I-130 and I-129F till and paid him $500.

Now I need to Send AOS & DS230 to NVC for further processing. I'm debating to use lawyer or submit myself. Laywer is asking for $500 more for submitting docs to NVC.

Is it worth spending $500 and go thru lawyer ? What do you guys suggest.

Thanks


Hie,
I we have our case at NVC and have appointed a lawyer for the same. But really speaking there is no need of a lawyer at NVC. rather having a lawyer will slow down the process at nvc. cause lawyers gnrly wait for the letters and stuff from NVC to respond.. They do not have any shortcuts of thr own.
what i'll suggest is go through LingChe_NVC_ShortCut
and follow the steps and u will save $500 plus u will save a hell lot of time...

Rgds



Here is the lonk to LingChe_NVC_ShortCut
http://www.visajourn...he_NVC_ShortCut
vishalMaleIndia2009-02-18 09:30:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresFew Questions
what about ur's queuedup

is the process for PCC done?
vishalMaleIndia2009-02-25 23:54:00