biggish data

question about destination weddings...

Some of those places are independent countries with some sort of "association" with the US. Not a part of the US. Be very careful.

You can go to territories, but USVI is difficult from what I understand because it is too easy to walk out of the US part. Puerto Rico is poor.

Hawaii seems like a better option.

Yes, you're welcome to come to Hawaii. If you do you must visit the Island of Maui. It has been voted the best island in the world the past several years. This is where we live. I have lived here since 1967.

Aloha and Mahalo

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-14 15:52:00

question about destination weddings...

I know that once my fiance comes to the US on his K1 visa, we will need to get married in the US, but does that include territories: Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, the Republic of the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and Palau? Or can these places be visited while waiting for the AP once filing for AOS after marriage? More just curious, but also trying to learn about what we can and cannot do. thanks in advance!

Tina

Are there not enough places to visit in the continental US? Or how about Hawaii? Why would you want to push the envelope by visiting territories anyway? I don't get it.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-14 15:19:00

Dealing with a previous marriage in a high fraud country.

Good luck

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-10 11:48:00

now your sounding like me.

I thought as much.

once a smoker, always a smoker. (no offense )

hahahahaha thumbs up!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 16:29:00

OP had closed his VJ account. Must be not liking the responses here ;p

I'd say we'll see him later, but that's unlikely.

Bet you're both right. I also doubt he will ever make it over the border, at least not legally. I wonder why so many people get on here, ask questions and then just refuse to listen to the advice given. duh?

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 12:52:00

Regardless, why are you trying to convince us? We're not approving you. The consulate is. I wish you all the best, but if you're so positive on what you saw, then why are you worrying or bothering to argue? Just relax and get to your interview when the time comes!

Yeah and while you are at it please sign in to VJ once you get past the POE. We all wait with baited breath.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-17 17:03:00

I have nothing to prove. I already know the classification I got. I used a lamp to look through the envelope and scrutinize what is on the paper without opening it. My classification is NO APPARENT DEFECT, DISEASE OR DISABILITY. No box mentioning SUSTAINED RECESSION of drug use, CLASS A or CLASS B, nor boxes such as DRUG ADDICTION or DRUG USE are marked. NOTHING WRONG. The only issues I saw were that my EYES condition is marked ABNORMAL because I have vision problems in my right eye. Also, the doctor marked the box that indicates ASTHMA because I've always had a RHINITIS problem all my life, but overall he said I had NO MEDICAL PROBLEMS preventing me from travelling and wish me A GREAT TRIP just as happened with the JA guy

Admitting drug use in the past is not the only aspect a doctor has to entitle you as a DRUG USER or DRUG ADDICT. They see your hands, your teeth, your tongue as well as your x-ray, which would show the effects of abuse drugs such as marijuana. They take into account the signs on your body, so if I were an actual junkie, he would have noticed that!

WOW! Are you pissed off or what? I NEVER said you were a drug user. I said the CO has the final decision. Don't you under stand that!? Have you ever heard of tongue in cheek? I am glad to see that you know how to use ALL CAPS and RED font and _________, oh and ITALICS. That's so cool! Hey perhaps you can get a job in the US with the NSA as a top secret mail reader, of course you will have to wait to be a citizen before you can get the top secret clearance required. I understand they are no longer using candles but bright led lights not to save the ozone layer further destruction. You should mention to everyone at your POE that you managed to read the eitire contents of your medical packet, maybe they will pull you to the side right away to interview you further for a job position. Perhaps in the country from whenc you came. Chill out man!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-17 14:59:00

The doctor actually told everything about my check-up was great and my result a very visible...You can clearly see i'm not classified as CLASS A or CLASS B...You assume knowing nothing about my life...

CO will assume you are a highly addicted weed smoker that took a break to pass the medical. CO "knows" you will likely resume your evil drug use once you enter the US. And to support your habit you will begin selling drugs to little old ladies and school children to support you drug use. It is YOUR burden to prove them wrong. As many have said here: Good luck

Edited by David & Zoila, 17 March 2014 - 12:53 PM.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-17 12:51:00

I'm not the CO, but lemme think what he'll think;

You are an addict, you stopped (paused) cuz of your visa processing. once you have it approved and you migrate to the US, you'll start (continue) your abuse and probly promote it, while they don't want that.

Well, we all know they legalized it in Colorado, we can't but just play by their rules.

Hope and pray for the best outcome in your case. ...sorry but.... i see a denial coming yo way!

Yes...but of course we all know that Colorado is not in control of the VISA process. The Federal Government is and Federal Law still outlaws the possession of and/or use of marijuana, period.

Now once you are here I suppose you could move to Colorado and smoke all the ganja you want but only after you complete the ROC or AOS process. But why take any chances??? Just say no to drugs...

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-17 12:46:00

my hubby from ja and he said he told the dr he had smoked yrs ago and hes been here 5mo s and the dr said he was fine and have a good trip so it depends

Now that's funny!!

That comment deserves a thumbs up for sure. hahahaha

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-17 12:42:00

What kind of drugs? I could understand that for things like cocaine, but marijuana? I doubt they'd be that strict if it's not still in your system.

US Federal law defines marijuana as an ILLEGAL DRUG. Period.

That's crazy! So what are you supposed to do? Let one night from college ruin your future? That's so messed up

Just say NO to drugs.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-14 14:28:00

I guess your parents should have gotten you a birth certificate from Venezuela cause your family was there for 1 year and that was plenty of time to get one. Also they should have a birth of record or something like that in that country. Im surprised DR allow your parents to get a DR birth certificate. Doesn't really matter if he ever visited back to the country or not he was born there and then lived there for 1 year. I hope it works out for you but it seems like the embassy would be right but only cause he made the statement about Venezuela.

Good Luck

My wife never had a birth certificate in the Philippines until she was 19. Her adoptive parents could not afford to travel to get the needed paperwork done. So until she met me there was no birth certificate. I had to send her to another Island and she had to go to the hospital where she was born and she begged and pleaded for them to look back into their records. Two days later they called her and told her to come back. She did and they gave her a temporary birth certificate then a few weeks later she had to get an official recorded copy from the NSO there. It was very difficult but it can be done. I am so thankful that her adoptive parents did not "pretend" she was born in Cebu or that would have been a real fiasco to fix.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-19 16:12:00

His mother and father are from the DR. His mother travelled to venezuela when she was pregnant (under a false name by the way). He was born in venezuela and his mother brought him to the DR at the age of 1. This birth certificate also has a different name for his mother (the one she travelled under) and a different man signed as his father to get that birth certificate (i dont know why they needed a father to sign.. im sure they have illegitimate children there too).. anyways...Rather than file for dual citizenship (apparently more expensive) when they got to the DR.. his real father (wouldn't put $2 on it) and his mother (under her real last name) went and filed for a birth certificate as if he was born in the DR. This BC has the proper names of his real father and real mother and the last name which he probably should have because it is the last name of his real father. I saw a lawyer today who is communicating with the consulate. Of course we know it is a BAD BAD situation.. we just want some direction on how to begin to fix it. See summary below

Venezuela BC - proper birth location, proper birthdate, wrong mothers name, wrong fathers name, wrong last name for him (based on wrong fathers name)

DR BC - wrong birth location, birthdate is off by one year, correct parents names, correct last name for him

Both Birth Certificates are wrong!!!! His parents screwed him up by the time he was 1 years old. The question is where to even begin. The lawyer hasnt said much other than trying to contact the consulate and see if they are willing to work with him. If not and they file denial then there is waiver...

and BTW.. right hand to God the only time I ever sent money was when I asked him to pay the visa fee to banco popular because I was flying in on a saturday and our appointment was on a monday. He has never asked and has even offered to send me money before (which I couldnt allow based on how poor the economy is there). I offered to send money when he was really sick before because he can't seem to find a decent doctor and has problems with his kidney but he wouldnt let me. This is a legit relationship and he is a really good person. His parents just messed him up BAD.

You are correct and let me make one thing perfectly clear. I sympathize with you. I agree that his parent/s screwed him up. With all the mess and apparently no legitimate birth certificate I again say you need lawyers. And not just any old lawyer who says he can help but specialists in immigration law. My guess is he will have to get a whole new birth certificate from Venezuela and you will have to start all over but it might be doable, but only with expert lawyers. And I meant no harm in asking if you are sedning money but unfortunatley that happens more often than we would like to admit and I am very glad to hear you are not being taken advantage of. Good luck and God Bless you both

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 16:21:00

Hello,

I am from Venezuela and everything here is complicated:

To get your birth Certificate it takes time, to get your Venezuelan I.D also takes a lot of time.
You should contact the embassy just in case and plant them your situation. and if that doesnt help then he would have to go to Venezuela himself, and go to the Registro Principal to get his Birth certificate.

Yes and it is going to take a lot of time and MONEY! Perhaps months...yes?

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 13:50:00

I think the man interviewing him just said that because he was intimidating him. That is what the lawyer just told me. They told him to bring his Venezuela birth certificate now. He thought the man was just saying that but the lawyer thinks it may actually help him. He says his parents have the original birth certificate but it is in very bad shape. They have tried to get a birth certificate from Venezuela before and have not had any luck.

Omg...devastated is not the word... Feel like all is lost.
Yes her and his father went to a place and filed for the dr birth certificate when he was one saying that he was born in the DR and he has had to deal with it now. Wasn't his mistake it was theirs!!

This problem is way too deep for me to handle. He has a FAKE birth certificate. Due to his fake birth certificate he also has a FAKE PASSPORT, and what else? His entire life is a lie. He will have to start in Venezuela and he will have to prove he was born there. How is he gonna prove that? They are going to say he's a liar because he was born in DR. You are screwed...you need probably three attorneys, one in Venezuela, one in Dr and one in US. Be prepared to spend a ton of money and there are no guarantees that he will ever be allowed into the US. I hate to sound so negative but put yourself into the shoes of the CO and what would you think? Fraud is the first word that comes to mind. No wonder they are not sure about your relationship. If you are supporting this guy you better take a few steps back and talk to some close frineds and ask them to look at this picture and see if you are being taken advantage of. I hope you are not but we have seen many people in love on here get screwed. Just make sure you know what is going on. Good luck and God Bless

Edited by David & Zoila, 18 March 2014 - 01:52 PM.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 13:47:00

Ok so my fiance went to his second interview today. Here is what happened.. and a summary of his situation.

1.) He was born in Venezuela but his mother and father are both Dominican Republic citizens. His mother brought him back to the DR when he was 1 years old. She then proceeded to get him a DR birth certificate etc which he has a cedula and passport under. This is also the name etc he applied for visa and used up until now. 2.) He has never been to venezuela..etc.

The embassy said that he was from venezuela and he admitted it. and they asked him to write a summary and sign the paper saying that. He did. THen they said they don't know if the relationship is real at all now. They also told him to go and get his venezuela birth certificate and they will see what they can do. They also gave him back his passport.

I know this is bad so please remain as much as possible from the exaggerated "just how bad it is" comments..

should he even bother going back with his venezuela birth certificate? He said its in bad shape by the way and needs to get a new one from venezuela but has been unsuccessful in getting a new one from there.

What I need is advice.. any idea of how to fix it or a good recommendation for a good immigration attorney (not a quack).

1 & 2: If he was born in Venezuela he has been to Venezuela. I wonder why DR would give him a birth certificate if he was not born in DR? That in itself appears to be fraud. I can see where your problem appears to be. The embassy is going to have a very difficult time believing your stories now. One very serious question: Are you sending him money?

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-03-18 13:40:00

Where can I find details on the entire process

If you do end up using a lawyer there is a very good chance that the proccess will take even longer than if you do it yourself.

I agree. Unfortunatley, sometimes we try to help others but they don't like the answers given to them. The guides are the place to go to get all the information needed to decide which visa is best for each couple. We all have different issues, circumstance and needs. My wife and I used the guides and it took 8 months from start to finish to complete the spouse visa process (CR-1) for us by following the guides on Visajourney. No attorney needed. Follow the step by step guides and you will be fine.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-12 18:39:00

Where can I find details on the entire process

I saw something with some written out but not with details.

for example. you file. and i dont even know what you file....
then you complete an I-129F. (do you do two or one for woman and child) you send this in. it requires $XXX. you are sent a notice they recieved it. then you get notice for xyz...

is there anything with ALL the details?

Paul

HERE: http://www.visajourn.../content/guides

I saw something with some written out but not with details.

for example. you file. and i dont even know what you file....
then you complete an I-129F. (do you do two or one for woman and child) you send this in. it requires $XXX. you are sent a notice they recieved it. then you get notice for xyz...

is there anything with ALL the details?

Paul

HERE: http://www.visajourn.../content/guides

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-12 12:50:00

Up for more input

How much more input do you need? I mean seriously? In your situation you have gotten all the input you need. Good luck and God Bless.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-16 18:06:00

The embassy has the responsibility to determine if the K-1 beneficiary will become a public charge or not. Technically the Manila embassy doesn't even require the I-134, and they've directly stated this in public question and answer sessions in the past. You will never see a denial where they state they've rejected a co-sponsor, because technically there is no such thing for a K-1, as the I-134 and I-134A are not legally binding documents. They are handy forms which the information on income and assets can be put in one place making the consuls job of determining likelihood of becoming a public charge determination easier. True sponsorship doesn't come into play until the AOS is filed with the I-864. If there is strong family backing, a good chance the immigrant themselves can contribute, good chance of increasing income, and likelihood the I-485 will be approved, then they will approve the K-1 visa even if the income is below the threshold. They've also stated this in public question and answer sessions. If they see there's a good chance the AOS will be denied, they will deny the visa.

If you're seeing a high percentage of denied petitions on the public charge issue, its because the petitioner and beneficiary have made a poor case they can keep the beneficiary from becoming a public charge. In the past year or so, I've seen a growth in the idea that needing a co-sponsor for a K-1 in Manila is destined for a denial. Its been like watching an urban myth grow, where people have repeated it enough, that now people just repeat it with no evidence to back it up. Properly prepared, with the right co-sponsor, and a immigrant with an education, will get an approval out of the embassy. Someone with a permanent disability, well below the poverty level, and an uneducated immigrant, have little chance of getting an approval. Which cases have you been looking at? I'm assuming the latter, as the denials are the ones that get all the attention, and approvals are more likely a quick congrats post, with no attention given to fact income was below 125% the poverty level.

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You can argue all you want but I will not waste any more time. A CR-1 is a much safer option in this particular instance. I'm out now. Aloha

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 14:28:00

personally I don't know where you're getting the 99 to 1 ratio for K-1s in Manila. I keep seeing people saying that here lately, but I've seen tons of co-sponsors approved for K-1s in the Philippines over the years. It would be nice to see some place that had actual factual data on it though.

Okay let me correct that statement with this statement: "The K-1 Co-Sponsor denial ratio in Manila is CLOSER to 99/1 than it is to 50/50." Is that better? (Please note in the first statement I said "closer to 99 to 1") You are correct. I am just going by what I have been reading over the past year and a half and it appears that way more often than not co-sponsors are not allowed there than they are. And I think in this particular case, all things considered they don't stand a chance in hades. But that's really just one mans opinion I guess. Have a nice day and Aloha.

Edited by David & Zoila, 15 May 2014 - 12:08 PM.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 12:07:00

Well that is a bit of a let down I wouldn't want to file for a K-1 Visa just to be rejected, i'll need to look into the CR1 then, i've already emailed the US embassy in the Ph, hopefully they can give me a straightforward answer about my situation.

They can't and they won't.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 11:50:00

So from my understanding it's really 50/50 when it comes to accepting a co-sponsor? Some say they do accept co-sponsors, and others say they don't. Where can I contact the US Embassy in Manila? I have several immediate family members who are willing to co-sponsor given my circumstances. Also some of you advised against the k-1 Visa and apply for a CR-1?

No it's not 50/50. Not sure where you are getting that from. It's probably more like 99/1 with a K-1 It is rare that a K-1 allows a co-sponsor in the Philippines. RARE. Sorry, but that's the truth. Going the CR-1 route is a much better option for you two.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-15 11:47:00

Please for give me now for this stern comment. But how the OP intends to support his fiancee' is non of our business. He asked questions on the process ie. filing, income requirements for filing, and any expectations from those things. If the OP has been on disability since birth I am sure he is not living in the streets. I am sure he is eating, paying bills, and meeting his needs. How much more will his wife add? I am quite sure he can provide for her enough until she arrives and is able to adjust then as she gets her papers straight for the next step to be a blessing to him as well. I think this is getting to much into his personal business. I want to recommend sticking to the questions that were asked not wondering about all the other side issues that is clearly things that I know he has considered. And yes she is coming from a poor country and her being here with her loved one...living and assisting each other will give her that opportunity to better herself and her family. Sorry but I just had to say something because I just think it happens to often here where OP's ask questions and those answering get side tracked and start responding to think that are outside the the real issue. If you want to just be nosy or concerned send them a private message.

You are suggesting much more than I am. I simply asked the poster to think about what he might be doing. I also have to question you about 700 dollars a month to feed, clothe and shelter 2 people in America? You are "sure" about so many things. You ask how much more his wife could add? Are you serious or joking? I would guess about 100% for food, clothing and most other expenses. How can you be so sure of so many things? I am pretty sure his income alone does not meet the income requirements to bring in a fiance. I was merely trying to help. I was not getting into his personal business.

There are 2 issues with this consulate.

1. They do not usually accept co sponsors in these circumstances

2. Needs to demonstrate it is a not a care giver being brought in.

And here Boiler makes two excellent points: These are issues the poster will have to overcome. So in the end I was not judging the poster. I was not faulting him. I wish him the very best. I wish no one harm. God Bless

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-14 15:18:00

With all due respect how would you support a wife if you are only earing 700 dollars a month disability income? You are aware that if you brought her in on a fiance visa she would not be allowed to work for several months. How would you feed, clothe and shelter her in the mean time? Would this be fair to her? I mean I have been to the Philippines many times and most are very poor there but do you really want to bring your fiance here to live below the poverty level? Just something to think about. God Bless.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-14 11:47:00

I knew I wanted to marry my fiancé a few days after we really started talking (I had known him a year, but we never had private conversations.) within 20 min of meeting him in person I knew I was right & wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. He proposed 3 days later & I said yes with no hesitation. When you know, you know.

I couldn't agree more!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 18:10:00

David and Zoila I just watched your video, is lovely!!!!! Congratulations for the love and the life together!!!!! Blessings!!!!!

Thank you so much for the compliment. Yes, I love her so much. I have been so blessed by God. I met Zoila at a time in my life when I thought I could find no more happiness. She has changed my entire life. God Bless you both.

David

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 17:41:00

Hmmm might have to take a trip with the fiancé after we get married and go to Hawaii

You could make Hawaii your POE. Visit us here on the Island of Maui. Hey while you're here you can get Maui'd. You could have a Filipino catered wedding reception. Wow, can we come?

Aloha

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 17:38:00

Always happy to see a friendly exchange of ideas here!

You guys made me miss Filipino food already! Especially the Lechon.. Grrrr! Thanks for sharing your videos!

Don't forget pinakbet and dinaguan, my personal favorites! Lucky we live Hawaii where the population is 30% Filipino so we have many Filipino restaurants and stores everywhere. Halohalo too!!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 16:10:00

Here is our videos and link and I have also subscribed to your channel as well...Enjoy

https://www.youtube....h?v=DNSfBqrk33w

Cool. Thanks so much. Really, really nice video. We also subscribed to your channel. Mahalo

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 15:20:00

Right after we sing Kumbaya and take a couple of hits on some real Hawaiian gold...

Maui wowee!!! Of course we will have to meet in Colorado for that. hahaha

Aloha

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 15:06:00

Ahhh this is you on youtube. I have seen your videos before. Its good to put two and two together and im sure you have seen my videos as well. I think a lot of VJ members said it right when you know you know cause the heart knows what it wants and there nothing you can do when your heart meets the right heart of a woman.

You got a youtube link? My wife and I would like to watch your videos.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 15:03:00

For the record, I don't think that anything makes a relationship more or less valid, other than the effort, love and respect both parties put into it. Certainly not time spent together before or after marriage is the only defining factor. In that, we agree.

Great. Thanks for saying.

I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy now. Group hug?? Life is great after all! God Bless you all! Aloha and Mahalo

Edited by David & Zoila, 19 May 2014 - 03:02 PM.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 15:01:00

And what are you suggesting, that everyone's circumstances are ideal where you can actually live with your SO for years before you file anything. Some people in the world, including myself, make the same decision that gun-shy people make in much less time. Does it mean our relationship will last? No. But neither does waiting for many years. It's a gamble either way. Having already been in a 10-year marriage, the woman who captured my heart was not allowed to have a "you must know me 50 years before we get married" ultimatum.

So to answer the OP, the time is right when you feel in your heart like it is.

Amen to that brother/sister!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 13:52:00

When you know, you know. I bought the my Fiancee's ring before I ever met her in person. & I proposed to her on the 7th day I saw her on our 1st & only (so far) meeting. I can't say it enough: when you know, you know.

Yup, you're right! I had the engagement ring in my suitcase when I arrived in the Philippines on my first trip/meeting, September 15, 2012. My PLAN was to meet her and if I thought she was the ONE I would propose to her on September 18, 2012 in a big way.

You can watch the video on YouTube here: https://www.youtube....kw&noredirect=1

The first night I met her I just knew. Three days later I proposed and the next day we went to the jewelry store and bought each other wedding rings, 4 days later (September 22, 2012) we had a beautiful wedding in Lapu Lapu, Philippines. https://www.youtube....h?v=qCegz4CGRHw

Edited by David & Zoila, 19 May 2014 - 12:59 PM.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 12:57:00

All the same, you hardly know him, so it would behoove you to get to know him before you make a lifetime commitment. Have him come visit you and spend some time together. Come over yourself and see how he lives, who his friends are, etc.

Of course some things suggested here are simply impossible for a Filipina. You cannot just "come over" and visit him now can you? I met my now wife on-line on DIA in July 2012. I flew to Cebu to meet her September 2012. I proposed that week and we married 7 days later. I stayed there with her for 30 days then went home a filed a CR-1 visa. I visited her once more for 3 weeks then went back home to Hawaii and we waited for the paperwork to complete. I then returned and met her in Manila in July of 2013 to attend the interview with her. She was approved and we flew together to Hawaii and the rest is history. The difference here is that I decided I wanted to marry her within minutes of seeing her in person. Whetehter that made a difference to the consular officer I will never know but our relationship was only 6 weeks old when we married. So I think you are just fine with a 5 month relationship. You have met face to face already. Just submit all the proper paperwork and you should be fine.

Good luck but most importantly, God Bless

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-19 12:31:00

Appeal denial ok K1 visa

Get married. Spend more time together. Front load proof of relationship. Then file CR-1....if you love each other.

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-05-28 13:20:00

DO WE QUALIFY FOT THE K1

hi everyone my fiance and I have been datng since October 2013 but met in October 2012. Do I fit the 2 year meeting requirement.

Yes, yes, yes

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-06-04 17:24:00

Conviction in I-129F

It is possible to be ordered by a court to do something without being convicted. For example a jiudge can order you to attend anger management class and once you finish it you come back to court and the case gets dismissed in consideration.

So don't assume that just because the judge made you do something there was a conviction.

Agreed!

David & Zoila

Male

Philippines

2014-01-28 14:25:00