Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Divorce Papers Problem	Ok, here is an unusual situation I am hoping someone might have some advice on. About 15 years ago I got married to a woman who can only be classified as a gold digger. Six months into our marriage she informed me that the only reason she married me was to give her two daughters 'a standard of living she never had'. Needless to say we separated after that. A few weeks later I was told she was moving out of state and filing for divorce so that she could go on disability. She just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to fight it. I told her she was more than welcome to a default judgment and I myself was moving out of state too. We were not married long enough for her to get alimony and I didn't have a lot of money at the time anyway. We had no children together so no child support was involved. We didn't have any community property. I have no doubt that she filed and got the default judgment of divorce. So I just simply went about my life and moved on. After a couple years I got married again. It was over all a good marriage and lasted for ten years. Regretfully we did grow apart and did eventually get a divorce. We were both to blame, a true no fault divorce. We are still on good terms as friends and have four children. She has a live-in boyfriend and will probably marry him soon; he is even a nice guy. First try... real bad idea. Second try… almost. Now here comes the girl of my dreams. As a boy I had heard the legend of the Guff, a place in heaven where the souls of people would play there until they were ready to be born, and if two souls fell in love there they were fated as soul mates and would search for each other and never be satisfied until they were together again. She is the kind of girl who makes you believe that story. Smart, sweet and beautiful, only she isn't from the US, so I need a K-1 visa for her. (God has a sense of humor so he put her on the other side of the world from me.) The problem is this... I have the divorce papers from the second divorce but not the first. I don't know what state or county she moved to or where she filed divorce, at the time I didn't care. I have no information other than my first x-wife's first and possible last name. To make it worse it's a very common first and last name. I don't have any info on her friends or family, school, anything. We didn't even file a joint tax return at any time. I don't even know her middle name. Basically I can't find anything to work with to try and find her to ask her where the papers are, if she would even bother to tell me. She could be remarried or dead for all I know. Getting a PI to search for essentially a "Mary Smith" would be VERY expensive and I doubt would do much good. I had considered divorcing her in my state again just so I have the papers; I can do that relatively cheap and without too much difficulty. However my divorce attorney advised not to because it might cause the court to call into question the legality of some things with my second marriage and divorce. So what are my options? 1. Don't mention it on the K-1 and hope they don't notice. (How much risk is there that they would even find it really?) 2. Spend a huge amount of money and possibly years searching for her and the papers. 3. Divorce her again and create the possibility for a bunch of legal problems. 4. Other (I am open to suggestions) I will do whatever it takes. I hate to fly, I mean I become Mr. Monk on a one hour flight, but I have flown to the opposite side of the planet four times for this woman. I live in the southwest and the only Spanish I speak is 'no habla espanol', but I am learning Filipino and Bisaya even though her English is perfect. I move to Davao and lived with her for four months, and I won't even go through the bad part of town here. I don't like durian and hate the smell of it but I'm trying to grow a durian tree from seed, knowing it won't fruit for years if I can even get it to grow just because she loves it even though I can buy frozen durian. What should I do? HELP! Did your divorce attorney mention possibility of filing a nunc pro tunc , if allowed in your state that would dissolve the first marriage and back date the papers to an earlier date! Your lawyer can explain the process better than me. Good luck!!!!	Robby999	Male	China	2010-01-05 20:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	About proof of employment	Tried using the site, but it seems I have to give the verifier the 'salery key' and then they have to sign up on the webpage and then even pay to verify someones employment...And when I tried to sign up and register as a verifier, it was asking for information I just did not have. Sorry, I have never used the feature before. I would contact HR Dept. tomorrow, they should be able to supply the document you need. I would give them ample time to contact payroll and request the income information they will need to write the verification of employment letter. I will have to do the same thing soon( hopefully soon ). Anyway, I think that HR or payroll could supply the needed document!	Robby999	Male	China	2010-01-24 18:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	About proof of employment	I don't get paystubs, but I can log into the company website and print out pretty much a paystub that shows how much money i've made in the year, hourly income, etc. Just hoping I can use anything other then an official letter of proof of employment from this website. Would rather use paystubs/even online ones I can print out, W-2, or whatever. Hey Morrin, My company also uses that system, have you checked the site for verification of employment? I know I have seen this feature on the site, this may give you the required information! If not, you will have to contact your company's Human Resource Dept for instructions!	Robby999	Male	China	2010-01-24 17:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Simple Dumb Question	I have recently received a letter indicating that my K 1 petition has been received by the NVC and a case number assigned. As for the next step, how will I be notified that my packet has been shipped to our Embassy or will I even know when this occurs? I tried to phone the NVC number but the automated system does not work for K visas from what I could discern. Didn't want to bother an operator and/ or wait 10 minutes to talk to them. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. You will need the NVC case number to use the AVR system. You can talk to an operator and get the NVC case number. I would suggest calling about 7-8 eastern time, I had the most success in that time frame. You will need the service center case number for the operator to reference the new case number. You can also give the operator your e-mail address at this time also! Good Luck!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-01-26 19:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Where do I file K-1?	According to various time trackers, the Texas Service Center is the fastest, but I live in Nevada. Do I have to send my application to California or can I send it to Texas? Some of the forums and guides say to send directly to Texas. Does anyone have any similar experience? Clearly, it won't be faster if my application is sent back. ??? Joseph Read this, it should answer your question!! http://www.uscis.gov...00045f3d6a1RCRD	Robby999	Male	China	2011-02-05 20:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	What service center do I go by?	Hi, When you first file your I-129F you mail it to the Dallas, Texas Lockbox address, They then send it to the service center for your state. I thought you would like to see this it shows the service center areas... If you live in: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, or Wyoming. Your petition will be sent to the California Service Center If you live in: Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, U.S. Virgin Islands, West Virginia and the District of Columbia. Your petition will be sent to the Vermont Service Center Not always, I live in Georgia and my petition was sent to California Service Center, I think they try to balance out the work load for the centers, so your petition could possibly go to either one!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-02-05 20:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Tattoo Evidence?	A picture of her tattooing her name in your chest would be better! Does the consulate allow the petitioner to attend the interview? If not, producing the original is going to be painful	Robby999	Male	China	2011-04-10 13:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Candle for love site	I have a list of interview questions I found, they are in Chinese! But I will post them anyway? I don't know if there any about CCP or not. 1?8?13??? ??? 1.???????????????XXX? 2.????????????GG??????? 3.[??????????]????? 4.[???????????]??????????????????????????????????????? 5.[????????????]????????? 6.?????????????????????????????? 7.?????? 8.?????????? 9.?????????????? 10.???????? 11.??????????????????Email??????????? 12.?????????????GG????? 13.??????? 14.?????????? 15.?????????? 16.????????? 17.?????????? 18.???????????? 19.[????????]???????? 20.[????????]???????????? 21.?????????????? 22.???????????? 23.???????????????????????????? 24.[??????]????????? 25.???????????????? 26.????????? 27.???????????? 28.?????????????? 29.[????]????????? 30.??????????????????????????????????????? 31.[????]?????????????????????????????????? 32.???????????? 33.?????????? 34.?????????? 35.???????????????????? 36.???????????? 37.????????? 38.??????? 39.?????????GG???? 40.????? 41.????? 42.????? 43.??????? 44.????????? 45.????????? 46.??????/?????/????? 47.??????? 48.?????????? 49.????????? 50.?????????? 51.???????????? 52.?????????? 53.????????? 54.???????? 55.??????????? 56.????????? 57.???????????????GG????? 58.????? 59.????????????????????????????????????????? 60.?????????????????????????????? 61.??????/?????/????? 62.?????????? 63.????????? 64.[???????]?????????????/???????????????????????????? 65.???????? 66.????????? 67.???????? 68.?????? 69.???/??????????????????K?JM? 70.?????????????/???? 71.????????????????? 72.[???]????????????? 73.???????????????/??????????????? 74.????????????? II ?????? 75.????????????/??/??? 76.????????????????? 77.?????????????? 78.????????????????????? 79.?????????????????????? 80.?????????????????????????????????????? 81.?????????????????????????? 82.???????????????????????? 83.?????????????????????????? 84.????????????????? III ?????? 85.????????? 86.???????? 87.???????????? 88.???????????????????????????????? 89.??????????????????90?????????????????? 90.???????????????????? 91.???????????? 92.????????? 93.??????????????? 94.???????90????????? 95.?????????????????????????????????????????????? Shenzen, I translated these to English for you! I have a list of interview questions I found, they are in Chinese! But I will post them anyway? I don't know if there any about CCP or not. 1?8?13??? 1 change on August 13 ??? Chinese 1.??????? 1. Who gave you the application? ????????XXX? (Example: My fiance XXX) 2.???????? 2. How do you know? ????GG??????? (To meet the knowledge of writing through GG) 3.[??????????]????? 3. [If you answer met through the network] sites? 4.[???????????]????????? 4. [You answer introducer met] have introducer photos? ??????? Introducer's name? ?????????? Introducer know how are you? ????????????? (Example: do not know to take his picture) 5.[????????????]????????? 5. [If you answer known since childhood neighbors] are childhood photos? 6.???????? 6. You are the north? ?????????????????????? (Example: Yes, not only that, we are a city) 7.?????? 7. You are the fellow? 8.?????????? 8. When do you know? 9.?????????????? 9. When you know where he lived in? 10.???????? 10. You know how long? 11.??????????????? 11. What way you communicate? ???Email??????????? (Example: Email, Phone, Internet chat ... ...) 12.?????????? 12. What kind of verbal communication? ???GG????? (For GG are not Chinese) 13.??????? 13. You met? 14.?????????? 14. Are you going to meet? 15.?????????? 15. How long you see the side? 16.????????? 16. He came to China to see you? 17.?????????? 17. He came to China to see you several times? 18.???????????? 18. He came to China, respectively, when? 19.[????????]???????? 19. [If answer once] Why only one? 20.[????????]???????????? 20. [If you answer only one] only see once you marry him now? 21.?????????????? 21. He came to China long before you know it? 22.???????????? 22. When he came to China How long? 23.??????????????? 23. He was in China when you have done? ????????????? (Example: travel, see the parents, ... ...) 24.[??????]????????? 24. [You answer traveling] with been? 25.????????? 25. He came in when? ??????? When to go? 26.????????? 26. Why did he come here? 27.???????????? 27. You've seen their parents do not ah? 28.?????????????? 28. He came back every time you all took a photo? 29.[????]????????? 29. [To produce photo] asked a group photo of the time and place? 30.????????? 30. Your photos still available? ??????? How much you take more? ??????????????????????? (Example: They went out to play, according to a group photo to get help according to a lot of trouble) 31.[????]?????????????????????????????????? 31. [Letters] On what basis do you play out these letters? (Example: the letter too much, but from time to time to play one) 32.???????????? 32. When did you decide to get married? 33.?????????? 33. When you set the wedding? 34.?????????? 34. When you married? 35.??????? 35. With the marriage license yet? ????????????? (Example: not for you notarized it?) 36.???????????? 36. You got married first met? 37.????????? 37. Form is filled up their own? 38.??????? 38. His name? 39.?????? 39. Where is he? ???GG???? (GG of Chinese origin) 40.????? 40. He lives where? 41.????? 41. His age? 42.????? 42. His birthday? 43.??????? 43. He was born where? 44.????????? 44. Where did he go to U.S.? 45.????????? 45. When did he emigrate? 46.??????/?????/????? 46. ??He do for a living / what job / what line? 47.??????? 47. He work? 48.?????????? 48. He earned a salary a month? 49.????????? 49. He have brothers and sisters? 50.?????????? 50. He Laodielaoma still alive? 51.????? 51. His mother name? ??????? She come from? 52.?????????? 52. His interest in hobbies? 53.????????? 53. His favorite color? 54.???????? 54. He likes music? 55.??????????? 55. What brand of car he was driving? 56.????????? 56. He has any religion? 57.???????????? 57. When he and his ex-wife a divorce? ???GG????? (There have been married for GG) 58.????? 58. Your age? 59.???????? 59. Have you been to that country? ????? When? ????? How long? ???? Why go? ????? With who? ??? Name? ??????????? Do? In what company? 60.????????? 60. Have you ever been to America? ????? When? ????? For how long? ??????????? The last time What is the purpose? 61.??????/?????/????? 61. You do for a living / what job / what line? 62.?????????? 62. What university did you graduate? 63.????????? 63. You learn what a professional? 64.[???????]????????????? 64. [If answer trade] is how you look at the WTO? /???????????????????????????? / That you are outside the United States to protest the WTO is how the conduct of persons to see? 65.???????? 65. You are the economy work? 66.????????? 66. Do you have any religious beliefs? 67.???????? 67. Do you have brothers or sisters? 68.?????? 68. You been married? 69.???/??????????? 69. Your husband / baby his father's name? ???????K?JM? (K class for children with JM) 70.??????? 70. Can you speak English? ??????/???? (Example: A little / no problem) 71.????????? 71. You are not a communist? ???????? (Not the best answer) 72.[???]??????? 72. [If have the military] to talk about military background? ?????? (Sensitive) 73.?????????? 73. Where one day you doing? ?????/??? What is the purpose / attempt? ???????????? (Example: the Internet to find someone to gossip chat) 74.????????????? 74. Do you belong to terrorist organization? II ?????? II on personal feelings 75.????????????/??/??? 75. What is your favorite character, your fiance / quality / features? 76.?????????? 76. Tell me about you that him? ??????? (Open question) 77.???????? 77. Are you willing to marry him? ?????? (Rhetorical) 78.???????? 78. Why do you want to marry him? ????????????? (For age gap between professional and other) 79.??????? 79. He was much better than you? ??????????????? How your parents look at this problem? 80.????????????????????? 80. Why do you Americans want to know this, and wanted to marry to the United States? ????????????????? (Example: not deliberately want to know, purely by chance) 81.?????????????????????????? 81. You met such a short time, how do you know he is the best for you? 82.???????????????????????? 82. Your friends and family in China, why go to the United States and marry him? 83.?????????????????? 83. About their homes, away from family, how are you feeling? ???????? Is there any nostalgia? 84.????????????????? 84. About to emigrate, which means no accidents, it does not happy? III ?????? III about future plans 85.????????? 85. What city are you going? 86.???????? 86. When did you leave China? 87.???????????? 87. You go to a plan to stay where? 88.??????????? 88. Going to the United States to do what kind of job? ??? Learning? ?????? What plan? ???????????? (Example: would like to adapt to the environment) 89.??????????? 89. When you set at the wedding? ???????90?????????????????? (Example: go to the U.S. within 90 days after the wedding as soon as possible, because we have separated a long time) 90.?????????? 90. Where are you going to get married? ?????????? Why do not you marry in China? 91.???????????? 91. Please tell me your wedding plans? 92.????????? 92. You have to hold a wedding? 93.??????????????? 93. Your parents do not want to attend your wedding? 94.???????90????????? 94. You know within 90 days of entering the United States to get married? 95.??????????????????? 95. If, when you are not married, how you going to do? ??????????????????????????? (Example: We are so in love, will get married) (Xiao Xiao 001 order) This post has been edited by Shenzhen : Today, 08:59 PM Google translate leaves alot to be desired! Edited by Robby999, 23 April 2011 - 09:08 PM.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-04-23 21:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Hotel recommendations for Guangzhou	Here is Mr Yang's phone number 013724842886!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-05-02 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Hotel recommendations for Guangzhou	There is a Westin on the next block to the Consulate and an IKEA 1 block in the other direction! My wife and I stayed directly behind the Westin ! The room was 25 dollars US daily and a pretty decent room! Had internet, small kitchenette, washing machine, microwave, and fridge! I will get the number from my wife tonight when she gets home. The lady we rented from is a friend of Mr Yang and was recommended by him! The walk to the Consulate takes about 5 minutes without rushing! Good Luck!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-05-02 15:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	She got a blue slip and pink slips at the interview	Hello Darnell, I did the EOR in Guangzhou they asked me if my wife had her interview yet I said no. She said if she did I would not have to pay the $50.00 US for the notarial service. I said I would rather pay $50.00 than have her fail the interview. It took them like 5 minutes to do it. I spent more time running around going through security and paying the bill than it took them to swear what I wrote was the truth and then he notarized my signature after raising my right hand. We are at NVC stage and we have been married more than a year and our time line is getting close to her interview I thought it was a good idea to do the EOR and have it notarized at the Embassy. This whole process takes way too long....... I was in Wuhan met an Israeli guy marrying his girl at the same time as us. She went back to Israel with him like a month later. DONE he just couldn't believe we had to wait a year. Shenzhen, That was a post by Darnell I copied to help the OP with his question abour the EOR letter. I wish I had the knowledge of the processes involved that Darnell has!	Robby999	Male	China	2010-12-28 07:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	She got a blue slip and pink slips at the interview	She had her interview on December 23 ( my birthday) in the Guangzhou consulate and the officer denied her visa. After lots of crying an other officer came to the window and they decided to gave her blue and pink pages instead. On the blue page 221(g) was marked which means lacking of documents/further processing. On the pink pages they explain what more documents they need. They want to see more pictures with descriptions. Statement from me describing the evolution of our relationship. A second statement describing my visit to china and how we spent our time together. A notarized copy of my passport including all the empty pages. I never had to wrote any statements before. Is there and sample statements I could read? Does anyone had to do this and end it up with a visa approved? I am afraid this is just a way to shut her up and send her away. This answer is more specific than my answer! Wuhan Rocks ! public/style_extra/team_icons/l10.gif Group: Members, Organizer Joined: 21-May 08 Location:Houston/Wuhan/Chengdu/Liverpool Filed for: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Filing Location: Chicago Lockbox Country: China flags/China.gif Timeline Photos Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:54 PM Ya know, it's weird. I talk about EORs much, but never see any examples for China, here. I'll give you a current rough draft version of mine... ----- My Name My Address City/State/Zip USCIS Chicago Lockbox address Chicago, IL, zip Date: REF: Evolution of Relationship with LASTNAME, Firstname, China Passport # Dear Sirs - I became acquainted with my wife on 2,1,2006 through our mutual membership in XYZ web portal. We exchanged a few emails there, then started talking every day via YIM and Telephone starting on 4,1,2006. (See Reference 1 and 2). We decided to become serious, and become engaged, on Dec 2, 2006. (See Reference 3) On Dec 29th, 2006, I went to China for a month, spending time with her and her family (see Reference 4,5,6,7 and 8). We had an engagement party on Jan 17th, 2007 (See Reference 9). We travelled to Chengdu to visit her mother's family, from Jan 19 to Jan 27 (see Reference 10). I returned to Texas on Jan 29th, and returned to China on March 11th, 2007, staying with my wife for 4 months (see Reference 10). We travelled together around Wuhan, two trips to Chengdu, a trip to BeiJing (see Reference 11, 12, 13 and 14). I returned to China for the 3rd time in December 29, 2007, for 5 weeks. We were married on January 23, 2008 (see Reference 15, 16 and 17). My 4th trip was for 2 months, from June 1st to July 31st, 2008 (see Reference 18, 19, 20), visiting with her father in Wuhan, and her mother in Chengdu. My 5th trip was for one month, from December 3rd, 2009, to Jan 4, 2010 (See Reference 21, 22, 23), visiting with her grandmother in Chengdu (see Reference 24 ). My 6th trip was for two months, from March 3rd, 2010 to May 4th, 2010, we stayed together in Wuhan for this duration. (see Reference 25, 26, 27) During all of my visits to China, I worked remotely for my company, handling all matters via telephone, fax, and internet, with my wife at my side (see Reference 28). We communicate verbally in both Chinese and English, via email in Chinese, via YIM in both Chinese and English (see Ref 29, 30, 31). We are planning on starting a family, trying for twins, during my next visit, scheduled for July 18th, 2010. We have a meeting with a fertility specialist this trip, and she's been getting ready with Chinese Herbal medicine and Western Medicine. I have met all of her families in Wuhan and Chengdu, I feel I've been adopted by all. My wife and I are very much in love, and look forward to a happy life together in the USA. I am very close to her uncles on her mother's side, in Chengdu, and her brothers in Wuhan. ALL OF US have big cooking parties when I am there (see Reference 32) - Cooking is important in Chinese Culture, I felt was important to assimilate all Cooking Skills for my wife's benefit. I thank you for your time in reviewing this letter, and hope that you can use it, in determining the bonafides of our relationship. Respectfully submitted, [/s Mr. Darnell ] -------- Now, this thing has GROWN over the years, and I've added in major timeticks of visits. Each Reference Item is another paragraph in an attachment, some of them reference photographs that were included in the evidence pile, some other are references of receipts. I try not to get sappy with this letter, or longwinded, or fill it with fluff. I leave that to each reference item --- FWIW, some HCMC interviewees bring a timeline in some other format. The EOR 'format' for GUZ grew out of a BLUE SLIP, ages past (not mine, someone elses) - GUZ IV asked for specific things, and I learned about it on a China Specific WebSite. ---- HTH ! Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case ! 0	Robby999	Male	China	2010-12-27 21:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	She got a blue slip and pink slips at the interview	She had her interview on December 23 ( my birthday) in the Guangzhou consulate and the officer denied her visa. After lots of crying an other officer came to the window and they decided to gave her blue and pink pages instead. On the blue page 221(g) was marked which means lacking of documents/further processing. On the pink pages they explain what more documents they need. They want to see more pictures with descriptions. Statement from me describing the evolution of our relationship. A second statement describing my visit to china and how we spent our time together. A notarized copy of my passport including all the empty pages. I never had to wrote any statements before. Is there and sample statements I could read? Does anyone had to do this and end it up with a visa approved? I am afraid this is just a way to shut her up and send her away. Hello Andy, Check out the posts in the regional forum here for China, I could not find a time-line for you, so I am assuming you applied for a K-1 visa. The letter of evolution for relationship is a letter explaining how, when, where you and your SO met and how your relationship has evolved since the point you two first met! The first meeting means first communication of any style.( internet, penpal, in person, telephone) The letter needs to be signed and notarized also, the pictures they want should have date/time stamps with a brief description of who, when, and where the picture was taken.The more of you and her family interacting the better. The pictures need to cover as long a time frame as possible, they do not like all the pictures taken in the same clothes or in a 1 or 2 day time frame! Good Luck, Robby P.S. Start a time-line , helps everybody!	Robby999	Male	China	2010-12-27 20:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How to "package" our K1 petition	Here is the link for assembling the package! http://www.visajourn...ontent/assembly	Robby999	Male	China	2011-07-03 21:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Applying for Fiance Visa	what if due to religion i can't met him like this before getting married?....i have seen him on skype and talked several times on phone..and have spend time with his family.. Read section 5 of the instructions for the 129F. I have no idea how you go about proving that meeting in person before the wedding is not allowed, but it seems according to the instructions it can be done!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-07-24 21:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	POE QUESTION: I-94	here is the form! http://forms.cbp.gov/pdf/arrival.pdf	Robby999	Male	China	2011-08-15 21:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	GUZ?	I was told by the NVC that our application was sent to GUZ on August 9. I tried calling there, and could not find anyone to talk to. All automated responses. One of the choices had a chinese woman speaking English but I could not understand what she was saying. Is there a website I will be able to see if they, in fact, received our application? Thanks so much:-)....Todd http://guangzhou.use.../contactiv.html	Robby999	Male	China	2011-08-23 21:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How to show proof of getting married: A list	Wedding or Engagement announcement in local newspaper!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-09-10 20:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	125% poverty level...	Thanks, Now it makes sense! Seems they would note the change on their site list. Good Luck and Best Wishes!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-09-20 23:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	125% poverty level...	You have me totally confused now, I looked at your timeline and it seems you are waiting for your NOA2. The consulate for Morocco says an I-134 is needed is needed for the interview. I know you need the I-864 for adjusting status, but I assumed you are preparing this for your fiancee's interview! Somebody please un-confuse me!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-09-20 07:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	125% poverty level...	I thought K-1 did the I-134 @ 100% of poverty level. Do the Same Income Requirements Apply to Form I-134 as Apply to Form I-864? No. The 125 percent of the federal poverty guideline minimum income requirement, the most recent year's tax return, and other requirements only apply when Form I-864 is needed. Applicants presenting Form I-134 will need to show that their U.S. sponsor's income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline. Edited by Robby999, 19 September 2011 - 11:31 PM.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-09-19 23:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	DS-230-Needed for a K-1 Visa or not?	Required Documentation You, the foreign-citizen fiancé(e), (and eligible children applying for K-2 visas) will be required to bring the following forms and documents to the visa interview: Two (2) Nonimmigrant Visa Applications, Form DS-156 (prepared in duplicate). NOTE: K-1/K-2 visa applicants should not fill in Form DS-160, Online Nonimmigrant Visa Application One (1) Nonimmigrant Fiancé(e) Visa Application, Form DS-156K One (1) Application For Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration, Form DS-230, Part I (You are not required to complete Part II.)	Robby999	Male	China	2011-09-19 23:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Anyone from Mexico Been approved lately	Here is a snip of the last 15 from WAC!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-11-27 23:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Just checked processing times! 12.8 months?!	Everytime you check the USCIS status, a kitten dies Is that specific to Vermont or a National average?	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 18:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Just checked processing times! 12.8 months?!	Vermont and Texas has the same times Duh I know that its the average: average is when you add all the numbers together and divide by how many items there were.... Here maybe this link will enlighten you! http://www.uscis.gov...000082ca60aRCRD P.S. Please fill in your timeline ! Edited by Robby999, 11 December 2011 - 03:58 PM.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 15:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Just checked processing times! 12.8 months?!	The 12.8 is the time required when all the service center times are combined then averaged!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 15:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Just checked processing times! 12.8 months?!	I just checked and it says 5 months for Vermont Service center, that is the time you want to be concerned with if your petition is at Vermont.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 14:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Retrictions on Date of Signing g-325a and Letter of Intent	It is called a 212g at the consulate phase. RFEs can happen at ANY USCIS phase, initial petition, AOS, ROC or naturalization I thought the 212 was a waiver?	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 19:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Retrictions on Date of Signing g-325a and Letter of Intent	I thought an RFE only happens at initial petition not at consular process. Can you give more explanation about it? Thanks. It happens at the Consular level also! ( Blue slip) !	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 17:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Retrictions on Date of Signing g-325a and Letter of Intent	No we have no changes on the forms. We wanted to save the time and money to mail new copies. If someone has gotten an RFE for this, please advise. If someone knows the guidelines for how long the dated form is still valid (assuming the info is correct) please advise. I would play it safe and just get new documents, it only takes 10-12 days for snail mail to arrive from China costs about $ 3.00 USD. Even faster with UPS but more expensive. I think you will avoid a possible RFE which will cost you about 2-3 weeks delay in your case processing since RFE's have to be snail mailed back to USCIS. I also think the person processing your case would also wonder why the info is old ( were they having problems and ever thing went on hold? What kinda of problems were they having?) I was playing processor there for a moment for you to see how or why the old form and EOR may cause you problems! Anyway, Good Luck!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 17:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Retrictions on Date of Signing g-325a and Letter of Intent	You need to be certain the G-325A edition is current! You could just complete and e-mail a new G-325A and EOR to her, she can print out and sign, Then she can mail or fedex back to you, so you have fresh and current forms!	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-11 16:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Interview tomorrow	Here is some tips I copied off this site a couple of years ago, I wanted to save these tips for just such a question as this! Here are some tips for the interview: 1. Do not volunteer information. For most questions, the shorter and more direct the answers are, the shorter the interview and the higher the chance of success. If the question is a yes or no question, give yes or no answers only. If the question is a simple question like "What is your name?" answer simply with your name. 2. If you do not know the answer to a question, do not lie. Say, "I don't know the answer to that at this time." or "I don't remember." 3. The answer to many questions will be in the papers that were sent in the petitions. Questions like, "what are your husband's parent's names". They will expect you to know the information given in your petitions. Review everything in your paperwork with your wife before her interview, and do a mock interview to see how the information may be applied. 4. Avoid saying "I think . . .". Women do this a lot. The examiner will expect you to know not be unsure, of your answers. Also, avoid adding "umm", "you know" and "ahh" type fillers to your speech. 5. When applicable, don't just state, demonstrate. If the examiner asks a question that can be answered with a document or photograph(s), provide it along with your answer. For example, if the examiner asks, "What does your family think of your husband?", give them a picture or two with your answer; "They like him very much. Here is a picture of him with my mother and father at my parent's home." Or, "How many attended your wedding?" Answer, "(give a number, then say) We have some lovely wedding photos of our guests having fun. Here are a few that I can show you." 6. Give American answers for dates and times. 12/24/07, not 24/12/07. 7. Dress well, but not overdressed. 8. Try to appear calm, well organized, and friendly. Nervousness raises suspicions. 9. Remain focused. If the examiner makes jokes, smile and enjoy, but do not make jokes too. 10. Make proper eye contact when conversing with the examiner, and try to control your own facial expressions so that your face remains pleasant and cordial. 11. Be audible so that your examiner doesn't have to ask you to repeat your answers. 12. Organize your papers in a way that will allow you to retrieve them easily and quickly. Examiners appreciate order and someone who doesn't waste their time. 13. When the interview is over, always ask for the results. "What should I now tell my husband about my visa status after our interview?" Before you leave, have them explain any papers they give to you and/or any procedures they will be taking to complete your case. Try to get the examiner's name for future reference, if needed. Write it down. 14. If the interview is in another city than the one you live in, arrive a day or two early to complete biometrics and get the results of your medical exam. 15. Arrive early to the consulate, but also be prepared to wait for a time past your scheduled interview appointment time. Be careful of thieves around the consulate if you have to carry cash. Bring ID; you cannot enter without it. 16. It is rare for the consulate to give you a visa on the spot. Be prepared to return for it, if approved. For the interview, your SO should bring: 1. Original marriage documents, translations and certifications. 2. Formal, long form birth certificate. 3. Copies of any divorce records or death decrees of former SO(s). 4. Passport, with an expiration date of no earlier than 6 months. Try to have more than 6 months before expiration. 5. Police certificate 6. Fingerprints (consulate will instruct you regarding how, when and where these will be taken). There is a fee for this. 7. Medical exam results (consulate will instruct you regarding how, when and where this will be taken). There is a fee for this. Make sure you get a copy from the medical examiner. 8. Passport type photos of each of you. (consulate will instruct you regarding these) Make sure that your fiancé can spell your COMPLETE name! Edited by Robby999, 18 December 2011 - 08:34 PM.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-18 20:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Visa package	Hi guys, I had my interview recentely and they didnt ask me for the I-156k form either for the letter of intent with a recently date from my fiance, they also gave me back my police records and kept the other 2, anyone knows what the envelope that they give you with the passport contains? the one that you have to present at the POE? I am afraid that one of these doccuments is required there and as they do not have it it wont be there, thank you! DO NOT OPEN THE PACKET WITH THE CUT CORNER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. If a document is missing you will be notified by the consulate before the packet is sent to you! Edited by Robby999, 21 December 2011 - 06:49 PM.	Robby999	Male	China	2011-12-21 18:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K-1question I've not seen.	Affidavit of Eligibility to Marry All civil law countries require proof of legal capacity to enter into a marriage contract in the form of certification by competent authority that no impediment exists to the marriage. No such document exists in the United States. Unless the foreign authorities will allow such a statement to be executed before one of their consular officials in the United States, it will be necessary for the parties to a prospective marriage abroad to execute an affidavit at the American embassy or consulate in the country in which the marriage will occur stating that they are free to marry. This is called an affidavit of eligibility to marry and the fee for the American consular officer''s certification of the affidavit is $55.00, subject to change. Some countries also require witnesses who will execute affidavits to the effect that the parties are free to marry. Your fiancee will have to produce a certificate showing her marital status ( even if she has never married ) because she is of marriage age in her country and they require the certificate for marriage! That is one of the items listed on the OF-169 for Guangzhou that she must provide for her interview! You will not need one because you are seeking a Fiancee Visa ( K-1 ) for her to enter the United States to marry and as shown above the US has no such document.	Robby999	Male	China	2012-04-15 19:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Manipulate Layover Time for K-1 Entry	She will have to change terminals at JFK also, so you might want to meet her there if possible. Good Luck	Robby999	Male	China	2012-05-04 22:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-129F Form question - American embassy - Beijing or Guangzhou?	We filled in Beijing and just got NOA2. Anyone know what will happen? Will the USA automatically send to Guangzhou, or must it go to Beijing then to Guangzhou? My fiance is in Beijing. Will she have to go to Guangzhou to schedule the interview and for the interview itself? IV K1/K2 Step 1 A U.S. citizen files the I-129F petition with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) office that covers your permanent place of residence. Note: I-129F petitions CANNOT be filed overseas. Step 2 The approved I-129F will be forwarded to the National Visa Center (NVC) and then to U.S. Consulate General Guangzhou. Note that visa petitions typically take 3-4 months to arrive at the Consulate after being sent by NVC; this is largely due to unavoidable delays in Chinese customs resulting from a bilateral treaty with China limiting the movement of official documents into the country. Step 3 When the Guangzhou Consulate receives the approved petition, it will send your fiancé/e beneficiary an instruction packet (known as Packet 3). Note: If there is any change in your fiancé/e's address, please inform NVC (or the Consulate, if NVC has already sent the case on) immediately to ensure that you do not miss out on receiving important information. Step 4 Upon receiving the completed Packet 3 forms, the Consulate will schedule an interview for the beneficiary. Interviews are typically scheduled for a date within 2 to 4 months of receipt of the forms. NVC Pilot Program The National Visa Center (NVC) has started a new pilot program of electronically processing visa petitions. Under this program all documents related to your case will be sent to Guangzhou electronically, rather than by mail. This should greatly improve the speed and efficiency of visa processing by avoiding delays due to postal service delivery. Electronic processing is available only for immigrant visa applications processed at the U.S. Consulate General in Guangzhou, China and is currently available for the following visa categories: IR-1, IR-2, CR-1, CR-2, IR-5, F1, F2A, F2B, F3 and F4. Please Note: The NVC electronic processing project for K visa (fiancée/spouse non-immigrant visa), has different procedures. For these cases, although the petitions are loaded electronically, the U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou still contacts visa beneficiaries to provide more documents prior to interview scheduling. If you are a K visa applicant and you have opted in for electronic processing, you will still have to wait for paper Instructions via mail from the Consulate. For more information, please go to the Guangzhou Electronic Processing webpage.	Robby999	Male	China	2012-05-05 11:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Important question	What are the basic eligibility requirements for a fiancé(e) petition? You must be a U.S. citizen to file a fiancé(e) petition. In your petition, you must show that: • You are a U.S. citizen; • You and your fiancé(e) intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e) entering the United States; • You are both free to marry; and • You have met each other in person within 2 years before you file this petition. However, there are two exceptions which require a waiver: This is the 2 year rule your friend is most likely confused about! Good Luck and do not ask your friend for any more immigration advice.	Robby999	Male	China	2012-05-04 23:19:00
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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K-1 Visa while Disabled	Here read this it might answer your question! http://www.visajourn...content/k1guide	Robby999	Male	China	2012-10-04 19:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	RFE because Chinese divorce papers not translated	Here this is from the State Departments website and concerns where and how to obtain documents or records in China! Here is the link for this page http://travel.state....5.html?cid=9015 China has a lot of China specific requirements, so you need to double check all information you receive here. What would be acceptable for many countries is not acceptable for Guangzhou! Best Wishes, Robby Documents Most of the documents listed below can be obtained from one of China's Notarial Offices (Gong Zheng Chu). All Chinese documentation to be used abroad is processed through the notary offices and issued in the form of notarial certificates. Notarial offices are located in all major Chinese cities and in rural county seats. These offices are part of the Ministry of Justice structure, but are separate from the people's court system. Notaries in China do not perform the same functions as their American counterparts. Chinese notaries affix their signatures and office seal to certificates that attest to the probity of claims made by the applicants. By regulation, notaries are empowered to issue certificates only after they conclude that the applicant's claims are true. Notarial certificates of birth, death, marriage, divorce, no criminal record and pre-1981 adoptions are, at best, secondary evidence of the events they purport to document. Although these certificates are secondary evidence, they are used because primary evidence is not standardized, is easily forged, and difficult to evaluate. Notarial certificates are easier to interpret than primary evidence and theoretically represent an expert judgment on the part of the notarial official as to the facts documented. The certificates can be based upon primary evidence, secondary evidence, testimony of the applicant or other parties, or investigation by the notary. For most notarial certificates of birth or adoption, the primary underlying documentation is the household register (HHR) which appears to be extremely susceptible to fraud and manipulation, especially if the holder of the HHR lives outside of a major metropolitan area. Notarial certificates rarely cite the basis for their issuance.* Thus a certificate in itself may not be adequate evidence of the facts claimed, and is best used in conjunction with primary and contemporaneous secondary evidence: old land deeds and old family registers; letters or money receipts; family records from countries that have reliable public documents; school and medical records. In relationship cases, especially where the petitioner left China years before, the best evidence of relationship, or lack of it, would be the Hong Kong Certificate of Registered Particulars (for petitioners who lived in Hong Kong), or the petitioner's immigration and/or naturalization file. Local conditions often do not permit consular officers to conduct on-site inquiries. However, if there is a reason to doubt the claims in a certificate issued by a Chinese notary, the American consular post in the issuing office's area may verify the information through the notarial office, or, if possible, by field investigation. A copy of the document in question should be submitted to the post, as well as detailed reasons for the suspicion. For suspected relationship fraud, the first step should be a check of the information contained in the INS file or Joint Voluntary Agency (JVA) files for former refugees. Given sufficient reason, notaries do investigate, and in some cases, revoke certificates. Several months should be allowed for a reply. Individuals residing outside of China may obtain notarial certificates from the notarial office with jurisdiction over the county of previous residence. Chinese relatives or friends may request issuance of certificates on behalf of someone now living abroad. Relatives and friends should have specific written authorization from the interested party before they request certificates. Alternatively, persons in need of notarial documents may contact the PRC Embassy or Consulate nearest to their residence abroad and ask that the request be forwarded to the appropriate notarial office. Obtaining a notarial certificate through a PRC Embassy or Consulate can require considerable time. Birth Certificates Available in the form of notarial certificates, which are secondary evidence. Notarial certificates of birth (Chu Sheng Gong Zheng Shu or Chu Sheng Zheng Ming Shu) for persons living in or recently departed from China are generally reliable, but are best used in conjunction with other evidence. They are most often based upon an AHHR, (Household Record) which is easily susceptible to fraud, especially in villages. Notarial birth certificates for persons long departed from China are most likely based merely upon the testimony of interested parties. While some notarial birth certificates will list stepparents or adoptive parents along with natural parents, this is not always the case. In some cases, the certificates will list only the natural parents, covering up an adoption. Some applicants will present notarial certificates of relationship (Guan Xi Gong Zheng [or Zheng Ming] Shu) in lieu of notarial birth certificates. These certificates of relationship are unreliable and tend to be based solely upon the testimony of interested parties. Notarial birth certificates should be required. Care should be taken with any certificate that lists step relationships. These relationships are as of the date of issuance of the certificate only. Marriage certificates should also be required. Adoption Certificate Certification is available in the form of a Notarial Adoption Certificate ("Shou Yang Gong Zheng" or "Zheng Ming Shu"); however, in accordance with the most recent revisions to China's adoptions law, a Notarial Adoption Certificate is no longer a requirement in adoption cases that were initiated after April 1, 1999, the effective date of the revisions. Notarial Adoptions Certificates remain available should any party involved in the adoptions process wish to have one (Adoption Law of the PRC, Chapter II, Article 15). Early Adoptions Prior to January 1981, there were no standardized adoptions laws and regulations in China. Commonly, adoptions were orally agreed to by the adoptive parent(s) and natural parents and/or surviving family members. There may or may not be a written record dating from the time of the adoption in these older cases. Parties to pre-1981 adoptions, however, often secured Notarial Adoptions Certificates at a later point in time that listed the natural parents' names, adoptive parents' names, and the date of the adoption. These certificates were supposedly issued only after the notary ascertained that an adoption took place conforming to local practice and regulation. Although notarial offices issued certificates for pre-January 1981 adoptions, these are considered to have been extremely susceptible to fraud, such that contemporaneous evidence of the adoption and co-residence, especially in the form of school records, is required for verification purposes. Following Enactment of the Adoption Law of China, Effective April 1, 1992 China codified its adoptions laws and regulations in the Current Adoption Law of China on December 29, 1991, which came into force on April 1, 1992. Under this law, a Notarial Adoption Certificate was required in all adoption cases, and the inability to obtain a Notarial Adoption Certificate was prima facie evidence no adoption ever took place. Therefore, adoptions taking place after January 1981 and before April 1, 1999 are considered valid only with the issuance of a Notarial Adoptions Certificate. Additionally, for adoptions cases initiated during this period, the date of issuance of the Notarial Adoptions Certification serves as the effective date of adoption. Revisions to the Adoption Law of China, Effective April 1, 1999 On November 4, 1998, China amended its adoptions law, effective April 1, 1999. Under the revised law, Notarial Adoption Certificates are no longer required in the adoptions process, nor are they used to establish the effective date of adoption. Instead, a Certificate of Registration of Adoption is used, and the effective date of an adoption is the date of registration (Revised Measures for Registration of Adoption of Children by Foreigners, Article 11). These certificates are issued by the provincial-level Ministry of Civil Affairs, which is responsible for approving all adoptions of parentless or abandoned children who becomes the wards of the Chinese state. International (Inter-country) Adoptions in China Foreigners may, in accordance with the Adoption Law of China, adopt a child (male or female) in the PRC. As in a domestic adoption, the adoptive relationship shall be established as the date of registration in all adoptions concluded on or after April 1, 1999, the effective date of the revised law. For adoptions occurring prior to that date, failure to obtain a Notarial Certificate of Adoption remains prima facie evidence a legal adoption never took place. While a Notarized Adoptions Certificate is no longer required, one may be obtained should any party involved in the adoption relationship wish to have one. Moreover, it remains true that if a foreign parent or married couple adopts a Chinese orphan, at least one of the adoptive parents must travel to China to complete the adoption, at which time they will receive a Notarial Birth Certificate and a Notarial Abandonment Certificate (Revised Measures for Registration of Adoption of Children by Foreigners, Article 8). The Notarial Abandonment Certificate should detail under what circumstances the child was either orphaned or abandoned. Please consult the U.S. Consulate Guangzhou's Adoption Unit for more on the inter-country adoptions process. Marriage and Death Certificates Available in the form of notarial marriage certificates (Jie Hun Gong Zheng [or Zheng Wing] Shu) or death certificates which are generally reliable. Divorce Certificates Available. Notarial offices will issue notarial divorce certificates based upon extant records to confirm either a court-decreed or uncontested divorce. In an uncontested divorce, a couple can obtain a divorce certificate from the marriage registration office in the neighborhood where they reside. In a contested divorce, both parties will receive a copy of the formal divorce decree from the court at the time the divorce is approved. If the original decree is lost, the same court will often issue a duplicate, but these various decrees or certificates should not be accepted in lieu of the notarial certificates. Police Records Generally available, reliable. Persons should apply for a certificate of no criminal record at the local Public Security Bureau (PSB) (or certain types of employers such as state owned enterprises), then make application to the notary office for a certificate based on the PSB document. Persons without a criminal record will be able to obtain a certificate to that effect. Certificates for individuals with one or more criminal convictions will list all convictions for which records still exist. The certificates purport to reflect all criminal convictions during residence in China. Police records are generally not available for the period prior to 1949. Certificates are available for those in the J-1, Z, and X categories. The GOC does not issue police records for temporary residents of China in L or F visa categories. Police records also are not available for those who were in China in diplomatic status including those working for international organizations such as the United Nations. Notarial police certificates are based in part upon records from an individual's employer. If an employer refuses to release records, the notarial office is not able to issue a certificate. This is the case for persons sent abroad for education by the Chinese Government who fail to return to China. According to a 1957 state council ruling that is still in force, the imposition of a re-education through labor (Lao Dong Jiao Yu) term does not result from a criminal conviction. Administrative organs, rather than courts, impose re-education through labor. It is important to distinguish re-education through labor from labor reform (Lao Dong Gai Zao), which is a sentence meted out for criminal offenses. Prison Records See Court Record below. Court Records Available in most cases. Normally, when someone is tried by a people's court or by an organ of the executive branch of government, some record remains of the case even for a political crime. In some instances, the entire formal court verdict (Pan Jue Shu) is available upon request by the former defendant. In other cases, the court can provide only a synopsis of the charges and the verdict. In all instances, it is necessary to have the applicant request court records. If an applicant is unable to secure court records, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, or the posts in China with jurisdiction over the area where the record is located can contact the appropriate provincial foreign affairs office and request assistance in securing records. It is not advisable for other U.S. officials to contact courts directly. Most court records will also indicate the original sentence, the actual sentence served and any reduction or commutation of the original sentence. Court records are generally not available for the period prior to 1949. Military Records Generally not available. Notarial Work Experience Certificates Available. Notarial Work Experience Certificates (NWECS) briefly describe an applicant's work experience in the PRC. They should be required of all employment based preference immigrant applicants who claim work experience in China. Employer's letters or sworn statements from persons claiming person's knowledge should not be accepted in lieu of NWECS. The inability of an applicant to obtain a NWEC should be regarded as prima facie evidence the applicant does not possess the claimed experience. Passport and Other Travel Documents There are four types of Chinese passports: Diplomatic Passports: Bright Red. Used for diplomats, and certain other senior government officials, (e.g., provincial governors, ministers, etc.) and the heads of some large state corporations. Service Passports: Green. Used for other government-sponsored travelers who are at, or below, the vice-minister level. Service passports are issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Public Affairs Passports: Dark brown. Used for other government-sponsored travelers who are at, or below, the vice-minister level. Public Affairs passports are issued by Provincial Foreign Affairs Offices. Note: Beijing has seen a variety of government sponsored travelers from trading company officials to Kung Fu experts, traveling on Public Affairs passports. The Provincial Foreign Affairs officers appear to have some latitude in deciding who can travel on a Public Affairs passport. Private Passport: Red. (The current red passports first appeared in 1992. Earlier versions, some of which are still in use, are brown.) Both types are used for Chinese traveling for unofficial purposes. The main difference between service and public affairs passports on the one hand and private passports on the other is that a Chinese traveling on a service or public affairs passport must be sponsored officially by the government, (though that does not mean the government is necessarily paying for the trip). Most applications for travel by holders of diplomatic service, and public affairs passports come to the U.S. under cover of a note from the sponsoring Chinese organization	Robby999	Male	China	2012-10-18 20:01:00