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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (Jason-Sasha @ Oct 30 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Oct 30 2007, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Jason-Sasha @ Oct 30 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whoa! I didnt expect so many responses. Thank you all. There was some confusion I guess from my wording. Not sure, but from everyone's info i have been able to piece everything together. My main concern was actually marrying somewhere other than our home state. Somewhere that would double as a nice honeymoon spot. Doesn't need to be outside the continental U.S. but would be a nice option. Our objective isn't necessarily to save money, it's to adjust quickly. So the idea of a civil marriage fits this very well. though, we don't want to remember being married at the courthouse. we want to remember being married in a beautiful, natural setting. There's nothing wrong with a courthouse marriage, but we don't want this. I didn't think about each state requiring a different license issued by that state to marry there. This changes things. In Virginia you can have a license in 30 minutes. I dont know how long it takes to get a license for other states. So, this I learned from the responses. Thanks. Also wasn't thinking about the possibilities of being rerouted by plane to a non-US place. Carribean is out. Thanks. I have read through the next steps of the process, but right now we have several months remaining for even an NOA2. So, I think I'm safe. Thanks again. Jason Good luck then, if you want speed then the route I suggested at county courthouse or the 30 mintue deal in Virginia is it, especially if you want speed so you can apply for AOS before you leave on honeymoon or when you get back. Otherwise you start adding new parts to the equation like other states and then waiting on them to process your marriage license and well you are going to wait more than likely, only way to get the speed you want is to do it yourself and get married in that 30 minute deal in Virginia, otherwise it is going to be or could be several days waiting for that license or weeks, because each state is different and each county recorders office works at different pace, just telling you what I learned firsthand. ZQT3344 Thanks again! You've given loads of time and info to this issue. Hmmm. So, say we do go the courthouse route..... about how long would it take to file for adjustment and get her permission to travel outside the U.S. with me for a honeymoon? Thanks again... Jason No problem. I remember digging around on this website and other visa websites and emailing other members and reading posts from way back and any other thing I would find on internet, so I feel for you. I would do the courthouse 30 minute deal you got in Virginia, then you can apply for AOS that day or as soon as you get all the documents to support the AOS I-485 app and I-864 app you have to send in together, we allowed ourselves about 2-3 days to work on putting the whole thing together then mailing off on a friday before the new fee deadline and that was not planed it just worked out that way and fell that way due to our wedding and on the calendar after getting back from honeymoon. You might explain to your finance what is going on, that it is the way the system is set up so she understands and does not think you are trying to pull some unromantic thing, I know I had to explain all this process to my wife/finance to get her to calm down and understand it all, it is very frustrating and hard on a couple in love, and believe me the USCIS does not care. You also need to start to get all the forms filled out and signed before applying, cause it is a lot of work or prep time getting all the documents to support your claims or answers on the I-864 and I-485, I would start working on it about 2 - 3 months ahead of time collecting everything, there is a checklist on this website under AOS that is pretty straightfoward and helpful to look at. If you apply for AOS on the day of courthouse marriage or day after, then you will also be forced to pay for and apply for EAD, and AP(Advanced Parole which means the temporary travel document your finance/wife will need to go in and out of USA while waiting for her AOS green card. Here is what these abbreviations mean, took me awhile to figure out what the world these people were talking about, since everyone is into abbreviating everything. AOS = Adjustment of Status EAD= Employment Authorization Document PR = Permenant Resident See under previous system before July 30 of 2007 you had choice to pick what you wanted to apply for, 1)AOS or 2)AOS and EAD or 3)AOS or AP 4) AOS and AP and EAD, and this was very good and the way it still should be. BUT our fine president signed off on these new fees and procedures for K1 visas back in early spring this year and well here you are, you are stuck you have no choice, you will shell out about $1200 or so when you apply for your AOS and EAD and AP now under current system. We were lucky we only filed for the AOS(I-485 app and I-864 app and supporting documents)which cost us $395. WE DID NOT BOTHER with the EAD or the AP and here is why, it is a waste of time and money. Look at how many filers of AOS that also applied for EAD and AP get their AOS green card within about month of those two other documents, QUITE A FEW! I would say about 80 - 90% from what I have read, researched and monitored and seen now for over a year. THUS why apply when in a month you get Green Card and do not need the other EAD or AP and can do whatever you want anyway for next 2 years. AND what is one month vs another $500-$700 for EAD and AP, not much gained we thought, money better spent on other things. BUT under this new system you will have no choice but to file for all three documents, you get the new $1100-$1200 fee and you will have to apply for AP(to travel), EAD(to work), and AOS(green card) all at same time. AND that also means more forms to fill out and documents to send in. MORE WORK, leave it up to the US federal government to think of this when they claim to want to streamline or help legal immigrants. Dream on. AND I would say that within 30-60 days of applying for or mailing off all this after the marriage at courthouse you will get your AP document for your wife to be able to travel outside of USA to anywhere in Carib, like St. Marteens and come back with no problems. AND not to scare you but this is not exact science, sometimes it takes longer, I would say due to the workload they receive for caseworkers that week or month, priority of what they are told to process within USCIS, etc, many things. But I would say from what I have seen that within 30 - 60 days she will be able to travel and that is about 80-90% of the AOS filers for AP and EAD I observed. ARE Sure you can't just go to the US Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico since they are in the USA borders and in the CARIB and it would make your life simpler and give you the speed you desire to travel to an exotic pretty romantic island! Hope this helps. Just passing on actual factual information to you my fellow Eastern European finance VJer.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 21:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (Jason-Sasha @ Oct 30 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whoa! I didnt expect so many responses. Thank you all. There was some confusion I guess from my wording. Not sure, but from everyone's info i have been able to piece everything together. My main concern was actually marrying somewhere other than our home state. Somewhere that would double as a nice honeymoon spot. Doesn't need to be outside the continental U.S. but would be a nice option. Our objective isn't necessarily to save money, it's to adjust quickly. So the idea of a civil marriage fits this very well. though, we don't want to remember being married at the courthouse. we want to remember being married in a beautiful, natural setting. There's nothing wrong with a courthouse marriage, but we don't want this. I didn't think about each state requiring a different license issued by that state to marry there. This changes things. In Virginia you can have a license in 30 minutes. I dont know how long it takes to get a license for other states. So, this I learned from the responses. Thanks. Also wasn't thinking about the possibilities of being rerouted by plane to a non-US place. Carribean is out. Thanks. I have read through the next steps of the process, but right now we have several months remaining for even an NOA2. So, I think I'm safe. Thanks again. Jason Good luck then, if you want speed then the route I suggested at county courthouse or the 30 mintue deal in Virginia is it, especially if you want speed so you can apply for AOS before you leave on honeymoon or when you get back. Otherwise you start adding new parts to the equation like other states and then waiting on them to process your marriage license and well you are going to wait more than likely, only way to get the speed you want is to do it yourself and get married in that 30 minute deal in Virginia, otherwise it is going to be or could be several days waiting for that license or weeks, because each state is different and each county recorders office works at different pace, just telling you what I learned firsthand. ZQT3344	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 14:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	Flights are DIRECT from mainland USA to Hawaii and are not rerouted to anywhere else. QUOTE (Caladan @ Oct 30 2007, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (LaL @ Oct 30 2007, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the big fear of honemooning outside the continental USA (or for AK, HI, etc outside their state) is due to re-routing of trips. It is possible to wind up in a situation that could be troublesome. Yes, you can go to some non-continental places, however there can at times be some unforseen issues. It is up to you if it is worth it. There is always the option of marrrying, applying for AP, then going on the honeymoon. Yup. Hawai'i is a state, and kind of isolated, so you're probably okay there, but if you're thinking of a cruise or a trip to some of the Caribbean islands, what are you going to do if a storm blows in and your boat or flight is rerouted somewhere outside of U.S. territory?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 13:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (Krikit @ Oct 30 2007, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pushbrk @ Oct 30 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Oct 30 2007, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do yourself a favor and get your marriage license in your own home town or county before you actually fly off somewhere to say the I Dos, reason is you will have to have that marriage license and certificate copy to mail in with AOS application once you get back off the honeymoon. [/b] This won't work. You need a marriage license issued in the jurisdiction (In the US, it's the County.) where the actual marriage took place. You can't get married in Florida on a Virginia marriage license. I read it that way at first, too, so I re-read it. I think there's a language barrier and the poster actually means "Have a civil marriage before you fly off to do the ceremony because some jurisdictions won't give you a copy of the marriage certificate right away." You got it, THAT IS CORRECT! sorry do not have time to type long answer. But what I said does work and it works well.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 13:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (pushbrk @ Oct 30 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Krikit @ Oct 30 2007, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pushbrk @ Oct 30 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Oct 30 2007, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do yourself a favor and get your marriage license in your own home town or county before you actually fly off somewhere to say the I Dos, reason is you will have to have that marriage license and certificate copy to mail in with AOS application once you get back off the honeymoon. [/b] This won't work. You need a marriage license issued in the jurisdiction (In the US, it's the County.) where the actual marriage took place. You can't get married in Florida on a Virginia marriage license. I read it that way at first, too, so I re-read it. I think there's a language barrier and the poster actually means "Have a civil marriage before you fly off to do the ceremony because some jurisdictions won't give you a copy of the marriage certificate right away." Perhaps but it's not how you read it. It's how it is written. I'm not interested in criticizing the author. I'm interested in correcting misinformation, regardless of how it happened to be provided. Jason Like I said, for what you want and asked and this is not misinformation: To get married the quickest least expensive way is for you and finance to say your official I-Do's at your nearest county seat town/city at court house once your finance arrives at your residence in USA. Call or go to the County Recorders office. AND do it before you leave on honeymoon or plan to go off somewhere and perform a reenactment/exchanging vows again of a wedding ceremony in other place you go on honeymoon. The fact of the matter is that the exchanging of vows in a church or wherever place they may be done do not mean anything UNTIL you and finance officially apply and sign marriage license application at county seat courthouse, then take that application marriage license to your preacher, then exchange vows and only after wedding vows of normal ceremony does a preacher and your best man and best lady sign and witness the wedding vows at the ceremony and make it official, which the preacher then takes this marriage license to have recorded at county courthouse, which then mails back to you or you can pick up later(the delay in time). THE FASTEST AND LEGAL WAY for your situation is Once you go and apply for wedding license at your nearest county seat and sign the papers and pay fees for marriage license, ask county recorder for a judge there available to perform the nuptials for you two and witness the marriage thus you go before a judge(to witness it) and say the nuptials then have it recorded with County Recorder office, you hopefully will have the official marriage license and copy in your hands that day, then you are free to go honeymoon and whilest on the honeymoon(within USA and territories of USA) if you choose to you can have an exchanging of wedding vows or renactment per se on your honeymoon but you will not have to file anything or reapply for a marriage license since you already have one officially before you left in your own state, AND this is factual and speaking from experience numerous couples do this all the time, go before judge get married then have the official wedding service later or do the exchanging vows on honeymoon wedding destination for romance part of it when in reality they are officially already married and do not have to sign anything or pay for another marriage license. It is a recommendation to you that will save you a lot of time and expense. Also you can fly into Hawaiian Islands, Guam, Puerto Rico or US Virgin Islands, just do not go or take any other excursions or boats or planes out of US territory, so I would stay off boats that may be entering non US waters or planes making stops at them. And if you take a cruise, might check and see with USCIS their official policy on that, I doubt you will have problems as long as you stay on the boat and do not leave it at a port that is non US, but double check for yourself on the cruise for I am not 100% sure, BUT on the plane flights to those US islands of Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands, YES you can go and fly to them no problems and leave to come back to mainland USA no problems and I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. ZQT3344	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 12:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Oct 30 2007, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Jason-Sasha @ Oct 30 2007, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My darling Sasha and I hope to be together by spring 2008. We want to get married soon after her arrival in an attempt to adjust her status sooner than later. We have also decided to celebrate the occasion with a very small, private wedding away from our home in Virginia. Rather than spending loads of money for a large formal wedding that will only satisfy relatives and friends, we've opted to spend very little on the actual wedding and enjoy a nice long romantic honeymoon. If we spend thousands and thousands on a wedding, we will not be able to take a nice honeymoon together. We would like to take off for somewhere tropical, marry there, vacation for a week, then come home. I'm not sure if she will be able to travel to the Virgin Islands, Jamaica, Barbados, or other Carribean Islands. Is it possible?? Or perhaps we will be limited to somewhere within the U.S. We would settle for Florida or Hawaii, but would prefer to go to the Carribean. I'm sure if I researched enough online I would find the answers, but I'm medicated right now for a severe migraine and I'm feeling quite lazy. So, thanks for anyone who can answer this for me definitively. Also, does it matter if we get married in any place other than our home state? Thanks again... Jason: She can go to US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, Hawaiian Islands, anything that is a US state/territory only. Know from experience. You will not be going to any place in Carrib unless it is US owned. Good idea on the wedding it is pain in the ####### and loads of money to have one in $1000s and more like 10s of thousands. Do yourself a favor and get your marriage license in your own home town or county before you actually fly off somewhere to say the I Dos, reason is you will have to have that marriage license and certificate copy to mail in with AOS application once you get back off the honeymoon. You will have 2-4 week delay waiting on that license of marriage. Best thing for what you want is to go apply for license, in your town or county, go to county recorder at county seat town/city and or call them and ask what they require, each state is different in how they handle applying for marriage license, once found out, then get it done, you can then take your finance to the county judge or whomever the recorder recommends that is available, and they will lead you through nuptials, then it is over, sign everything and make sure you get the marriage license recorded that day on spot at courthouse recorder office. Now here is the delay some court recorders claim they cannot do all that in one day and they are overwhelmed with other work and it will be 1, 2, 3 o 4 weeks before they will record it and mail back to you, or sometimes in normal wedding the preacher forgets to go record it right away or mail to county recorder which then delays it another 1 to 2 weeks. BUT since you are going to do what you are, no wedding that should not be a problem for you to worry about, you just need to get in touch with your local county recorder at your town/city county seat and find ask what you need to do or have in order to get married in your state? they will know, then get on it and do it. I would say that some states allow you both to be in person, to apply on spot, pay fees, then go before judge to do nuptials, then have license recorded and then get original and copies that same day, I would recommend a tuesday, wednesday or thursday. Or just ask the county recorder which days are best for them to do this. Good luck. ZQT3344 IMPORTANT: Also forgot to give you a tip, if you do take honeymoon outside continentalUSA or fly anywhere in USA make sure you book the airline ticket in your finance's maiden name since that will be the same name on her Russian passport and you will not have had time to change her name legally to your married name, reason I say this in case you were unable to get a copy of the marriage license to take with you to prove she is the person on that ticket when she presents ID of her passport at airport you are going to have some headaches or delays to get on that flight. Simple easy thing to do is book the airline ticket in her maiden name and not her married name, thus when they check her ID they will see the I-94 stamp in passport and realize what is going on anyway that she is a K1 and no big deal, but believe me it will save you a headache, cause it will cause major confusion otherwise and if you do not have that marriage license in hand to prove the name change which will not match that Russian passport, they may not allow her on the plane, I have seen that happen to a couple. ZQT3344	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 08:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage outside the U.S. on a K-1 visa	QUOTE (Jason-Sasha @ Oct 30 2007, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My darling Sasha and I hope to be together by spring 2008. We want to get married soon after her arrival in an attempt to adjust her status sooner than later. We have also decided to celebrate the occasion with a very small, private wedding away from our home in Virginia. Rather than spending loads of money for a large formal wedding that will only satisfy relatives and friends, we've opted to spend very little on the actual wedding and enjoy a nice long romantic honeymoon. If we spend thousands and thousands on a wedding, we will not be able to take a nice honeymoon together. We would like to take off for somewhere tropical, marry there, vacation for a week, then come home. I'm not sure if she will be able to travel to the Virgin Islands, Jamaica, Barbados, or other Carribean Islands. Is it possible?? Or perhaps we will be limited to somewhere within the U.S. We would settle for Florida or Hawaii, but would prefer to go to the Carribean. I'm sure if I researched enough online I would find the answers, but I'm medicated right now for a severe migraine and I'm feeling quite lazy. So, thanks for anyone who can answer this for me definitively. Also, does it matter if we get married in any place other than our home state? Thanks again... Jason: She can go to US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, Hawaiian Islands, anything that is a US state/territory only. Know from experience. You will not be going to any place in Carrib unless it is US owned. Good idea on the wedding it is pain in the ####### and loads of money to have one in $1000s and more like 10s of thousands. Do yourself a favor and get your marriage license in your own home town or county before you actually fly off somewhere to say the I Dos, reason is you will have to have that marriage license and certificate copy to mail in with AOS application once you get back off the honeymoon. You will have 2-4 week delay waiting on that license of marriage. Best thing for what you want is to go apply for license, in your town or county, go to county recorder at county seat town/city and or call them and ask what they require, each state is different in how they handle applying for marriage license, once found out, then get it done, you can then take your finance to the county judge or whomever the recorder recommends that is available, and they will lead you through nuptials, then it is over, sign everything and make sure you get the marriage license recorded that day on spot at courthouse recorder office. Now here is the delay some court recorders claim they cannot do all that in one day and they are overwhelmed with other work and it will be 1, 2, 3 o 4 weeks before they will record it and mail back to you, or sometimes in normal wedding the preacher forgets to go record it right away or mail to county recorder which then delays it another 1 to 2 weeks. BUT since you are going to do what you are, no wedding that should not be a problem for you to worry about, you just need to get in touch with your local county recorder at your town/city county seat and find ask what you need to do or have in order to get married in your state? they will know, then get on it and do it. I would say that some states allow you both to be in person, to apply on spot, pay fees, then go before judge to do nuptials, then have license recorded and then get original and copies that same day, I would recommend a tuesday, wednesday or thursday. Or just ask the county recorder which days are best for them to do this. Good luck. ZQT3344	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-10-30 08:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 or K3?	K1 is usually faster, go look at timelines and compare. QUOTE (LaPrincesa @ Dec 10 2007, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey everyone! My fiance and I are trying to decide whith route to take. We were set on doing the K-1, however with the AOS taking so long, we are starting to look at the K-3. What does everyone suggest? What are the pros and cons of both? Thanks in advance!	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-12-10 10:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	can we get married in Brazil and still apply fo K-1 visa	Check the time lines average wait times on this website for K3, CR1 and K1, K1 is faster path usually, just observation. QUOTE (ted2 @ Dec 9 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am from the US and want to marry my fiancee from Brazil , she has 2 children , her lawyer says we should marry there first . Would this hurt us applying for K-1 ?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-12-10 08:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	VISAPRO, Reviews / Opionions	Depends on if you do not want to do it yourself or taking extra time to organize it and if you can afford to pay them or do not mind to pay what they charge. QUOTE (elw092 @ Dec 10 2007, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is the service any good?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-12-10 16:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marrying First Cousin	Right, sure, who put you up to posting this? Oh come on this has got to be a joke? Knowingly marrying your cousin, I mean are you drugs? QUOTE (JKD_88 @ Jan 1 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am marrying my first cousin, who is from Brazil. Please no rude comments, it really isn't a big deal at all to marry your first cousin. In my state it's perfectly legal to marry your first cousin and my lawyer didn't mention anything as far as denial goes so I was just wondering...do any of you think that us being first cousins will be a reason for us to be denied? I really hope not. Thank you	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-02 21:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Different name without official documents	QUOTE (bhafatboy @ Dec 3 2007, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi all I have a question for you guys and gals, My birth surname is not one I use now and have not used since I was 4. I remember my mum signing some stuff to say I am now known as a different surname. My passport / drivers licence / national insurance number etc all show my surname now so will this be an issue as I have never had documentation to show my name being changed officially anywhere. Thank you Better get it changed to what you know at your official records place, otherwise when you file you will have to list your official birth name and then list any other alias or names used and explain it.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-12-03 13:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Application Fees for Non-Immigrant Visas to Increase On January 1, 2008	Thank you GW BUSH! Only 1 more year until he is gone, maybe people will think more this time when they vote for the next president instead of electing another moron. This sucks for everyone, higher fees and no faster results. Typical GW Bush style. Wonderful. QUOTE (ChrisB0707 @ Dec 16 2007, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (ZeeNusah @ Dec 15 2007, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whats another $31 The 31.00 is not the point. Point is the fees keep going up and the process still takes so long. The US can spend so much money on a war that should have never been our problem and use our taxes to do it. Then charge us so much to be with the ones we love and make the process so long	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2007-12-16 05:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	people, what do you do?	Lots of cold showers. QUOTE (BryantAliona @ Jan 9 2008, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...When you feel like you're going crazy without your soulmades? When the pain gets allmost physical? That's a really tough test... Is there a secret to keep strong?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-10 04:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	The benefits of hiring a lawyer	Hire lawyer if you want to spend the money otherwise do it yourself and save time and money . QUOTE (Cindy&Cris @ Dec 31 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Everyone! First of all my best wishes to all of you for a prosperous New Year and may all your requests work out in a positive way. I am new to this forum, and I have to say, thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and knowledge I feel more positive of what I am about to do. I am engaged to Cris, he lives in Ecuador. I have seen him twice this year and we have decided that the best to do is for him to come to NY and get married here in NY. I am hoping to file I-129F by February after I visit him for Valentine's Day. My questions is can somebody advice me whether hiring a lawyer will be better than to go through the process alone. I will appreciate it if anyone can tell me how the process went or is going thorugh with a lawyer and also without a lawyer. Thanks to everyone.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-02 21:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Question-Marriage-SSN timing,etc.	MAE is right on! We were told that within 10 business days of 1-94 or K1 expiring SSA office will not allow you to file for social security card. QUOTE (David-Mae Forever @ Jan 20 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Most states don't require SS number to get married so don't worry about it. But you may want your fiancee to have one right away so that you won't run into problems later on. SSA is strict with assigning a number to an immigrant especially if the date on the I-94 (arrival form) is close to expiration. If that's the case, the immigrant should wait either for EAD or the greencard itself to be given a SS number. As for your fiancee not using your name, I don't think it's a problem at all. A lot of couples here have done that. You will still have to go back to SSA, not for a name change but to remove the conditions on her SS card. It's because if your fiancee will apply for SS card without EAD or greencard yet, the SS card will have a notation that she is not legal to work. I hope it helps! Good luck! --Mae	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-20 10:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	how come the USCIS didnt update the timelines yet?	QUOTE (sophee_ya @ Jan 22 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why it takes them so long to update the timelines?i checked the USCIS processing time,they updated it december of 2007.January is almost over. They probably took break due to holiday yesterday.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-22 10:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Seperated in Canada. Can my finace still apply for a K1	I would think you will have to be divorced since when you file the K1 it asks for previous marriages and I am certain you will have to prove you are no longer married and submit a divorce decree. Just a thought. QUOTE (wishiwasthere23 @ Jan 22 2008, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi All, First off, i am very happy i found this site. After google searching like mad, and no help, I would like you to get some of your opinions on this matter. My fiance in the US and I, want to start the I-129F petition. I am currently seperated in Canada from my husband, but haven't started the divorce procedings yet. We have been seperated for over a year. Just wondering if we should(have to) wait till my divorce is final before applying or can he still do the petition with me being seperated. Thank you all for your help, its greatly appreciated.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-22 13:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	affidavit of support	From what I can tell, or from my experience, the I-134(promise to be able to support the incoming spouse to USA) is for interviews at US embassy in spouse's country and the I-864 is more severe and binding, more like a guarantee you make in contract with the US Federal Governent to support above poverty living standards for the foriegn spouse, used in the US when you apply for the AOS application process. QUOTE (mirazalea @ Jan 26 2008, 03:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, I'd like to know what's the difference between I-134 and I-864. Please help!	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-26 14:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Cancelling The K-1 Application	More than likely you stand a good chance of running afoul for visa fraud in USCIS eyes. QUOTE (Simon&Miriam @ Jan 20 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Miriams B1/B2 is valid for another 9 years, why dont I just cancel my K-1 application which was received last Friday by USCIS in Vermont and go the other route, that way we won't be apart and can apply for an adjustment of status once married, seems like I dropped the ball by sending her back and I feel really terrible.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-25 12:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Passport amendment	QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Feb 4 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Feb 4 2008, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Curious, what about if this person has connectint flights outside the USA? For example, realizing it is no problem to fly out or fly back into the USA as long as you have green card, HOWEVER, what about when the person goes to have their passport changed to their new married name in their country passport offices, THEN when flying back to USA, they go to depart and check in and board plane coming back to USA, what happens then, since name on eticket is not going to match the name on the new married name in new passport? Also what about when they land in foreign country on connecting flight and then have to go through passport control/security and then board again on connecting flight? Will that be a problem with the different name on eticket then passport. Would they be allowed to board the plane since it does not match their name in passport now and is different than eticket? Curious, just thoughts. Anyone have experience with this situation and know for sure what to do and how to handle this? Outside the USA it is all about the passport, so keep in mind if foreign citizen needs a transit visa for the connecting country, they probably still will need transit visa. Some countries recognize the green-card, like Canada, and Mexico. This is why carry a copy of marriage cert to show name change. Ok but curious, does anyone have any actual experience with this sort of situation, I mean what really happens when the spouse flies back to USA from their home country with that new passport, do they get denied to fly? Seems like there is something else they would need besides marriage certificate, but maybe not.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-02-04 11:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Passport amendment	Curious, what about if this person has connectint flights outside the USA? For example, realizing it is no problem to fly out or fly back into the USA as long as you have green card, HOWEVER, what about when the person goes to have their passport changed to their new married name in their country passport offices, THEN when flying back to USA, they go to depart and check in and board plane coming back to USA, what happens then, since name on eticket is not going to match the name on the new married name in new passport? Also what about when they land in foreign country on connecting flight and then have to go through passport control/security and then board again on connecting flight? Will that be a problem with the different name on eticket then passport. Would they be allowed to board the plane since it does not match their name in passport now and is different than eticket? Curious, just thoughts. Anyone have experience with this situation and know for sure what to do and how to handle this? QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Feb 3 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeh @ Feb 3 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Feb 3 2008, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Having different names is NOT a problem, book your flight tickets using the passport name. You only need to show the green-card is when you re-enter the USA. Some carry a copy of marriage cert to show name change if any questions are asked. If and when you travel home you could get passport amended in foreign country, or just wait until you renew the passport to get name changed in it. This is a FAQ. Thank you so much for your reply!!!!!!!!!!! That's a relief for me =) So I just need to use the name on my passport and I should be ok... So coming back here in the US it wont be a problem either?? No problem, POE os only concerned with seeing the green-card.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-02-04 09:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Questions about cancelling	You do not have to do a thing, just do not get married to the person, they can wither on the vine! QUOTE (weshallsee @ Jan 31 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The person to whom I was engaged many months ago had their K-1 fiancee visa approved a little more than 4 months ago. Unfortunately there are some issues and our engagement is in doubt right now. Just a few questions about if/when we call it off. They still haven't entered the US, so we still have some time in case things improve. 1- After the visa has been issued, but prior to it being used (ie they didn't enter US), how does one go about cancelling the Visa? Can it be "cancelled" if the engagement breaks off? Can I, as the petitioner, ask that the Visa be revoked prior to it being used? 2- Is there a way I can prevent the fiance from entering the US after Visa has been issued? They know that they have 90 days to get married, and if the engagement is off, I would prefer that they not have the option to have a 3 month "vacation" in the US before they have to go back (they have family relatives and friends in US that they wouldn't mind visiting). 3- Similarly, if Visa is issued but was not used, how, if at all, does this affect future K1/K3 applications, should I decide to seek a spouse from abroad? Thanks for your help.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-31 15:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How In The World Did It Come To This?	Actually I think all people getting married as two US citizens should have to go through a lot more to get married than what they do currently, it is a total joke, especially for such a serious life long committment. No wonder so many marriages fail or there are so many divorces when so many people should have not been married in the first place! A lot of those divorce rates would decrease and more people would do a much better job of making certain they were truly committed to that other person for their natural born life! It ought to be a federal law! Why not if we have to all go through it why not US citizens? QUOTE (WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 5 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do any of you ever wonder how it is that you are in the position that you are at the mercy of your Government regarding your marriage? Maybe if everyone had to go through a similar process our divorce rate wouldn't be so high.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-02-05 13:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Very strange K1 situation	Nope, he will have to travel back to his home country and go through K1 application process all over again with new lover from USA. QUOTE (hulsey06 @ Feb 8 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know this sounds like a "I have a friend who" situation but in this case it is true . I have a friend lol .. who has entered the country on a K1 to marry his girlfriend .. who is now having second thouhgts .. Is it possible for him to get a marriage licence with someone else even if he has one with his girlfriend ?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-02-10 22:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Bringing the parents over for the wedding	Best to go to your closest US Senator or House of Rep offices and explain your situation so they can write a letter of reference for you to send to your future in laws for their visa interview to come to your marriage. QUOTE (Bill & Angel @ Mar 4 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi All, Once my fiancee gets her K1 visa and comes to the US, we would really like to bring her parents to the wedding. Is there anything I can do from my side to help get them here? Or are they pretty much on their own in obtaining a visitors visa from the US consulate in China? I would think (hope) that here is some special "attend their daughter's wedding" fast track, but I cannot find anything of the sort. Anyone else find themselves in this position? What's the best way to go about it?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-03-08 16:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Filed for K1 in october, getting married in India in April, is it wise?	Why not go for it, how will anyone know, just get married in the USA anyway like you have to. Good luck. QUOTE (sauron @ Jan 30 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I filed a K1 visa app on behalf of my fiance in August, NOA1 in October 07. Her parents didn't know at the time, but now they do and they're ok, so I'm flying to India to get married to her. Will this affect our status as K1 petitioners? Will they ask us to re-file an I-130F? We still plan to wed in the USA.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-01-31 14:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Certification by Translator	Just go right on with your false propaganda and see what happens when it is not notarized. QUOTE (fwaguy @ May 1 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ May 1 2008, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you, once again FWAGUY lets his alligator mouth over ride his tweety bird #######. Here is the information directly from the USEM website: QUOTE "Any document not in English must be accompanied by an English translation. A competent translator must certify the translations. " Please tell me where it says anything about notarization? http://manila.usemba...v/wwwh3217.html	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-05-01 13:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Certification by Translator	Thank you, once again FWAGUY lets his alligator mouth over ride his tweety bird #######. QUOTE (CL79 @ May 1 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ May 1 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> FWAGUY, Surprisingly you left out the fact that normally the translation must also be notarized by a notary of public or embassy official once the competent translator performs such service. QUOTE (fwaguy @ Apr 30 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Ash * Habibati @ Apr 30 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any documents that you are using that are required by USCIS/NVC/ETC must be translated by an "approved" translator. NOT True, USCIS requires only certification by the translator... There is no APPROVED translator list published anywhere by USCIS. The embassy website or consulate for your area should provide you with a list of official translators in your country. The paper must be signed and stamped by that translator's office. Local procedures vary widely. What is required in Phillipines may be very different than Tunisia Many Embassies will except documents in the native language and do not require translation. Most likely true But anything going to a US Office or point of contact must be done by an official translator. Again not true, anything submitted to the USCIS must be accompanied by an English translation with the appropriate certification. The certification is simply a statement by the translator indicating his/her competancy in BOTH languages. However, documents that you might be using as proof of your relationship - say emails or something like this, you might be able to just translate those yourself? If and only if required and they meet the required certification standard. Maybe someone else has further clarification about that. It is a great idea and it helps to show ongoing relationship, cannot hurt you at all. QUOTE (Ramel @ Apr 30 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thank you su much guys..you guys rock!!!! I save a lot of money because of this website....just hoping and praying that my petition will be approve soon... yes i'm talking about the proff of our ongoing relation like emails and letters ang greeting cards...so it's ok to translate those by myself? do i still have to put my name on the translator though? I believe the OP is preparing for the interview stage? Each and every consulate applies different set of rules. The consulate here in Malaysia requires translation by an official translator for the non English official documents such as birth certificate, police clearance ..etc. The consulate has also assured me that I do not need to get the translation notarized or authenticated as long as I bring both the translation and original copies to the Embassy at the time of interview and the CO will authenticate them for me. So my advice is get in touch with someone from the American Embassy to find out the answers. They usually respond pretty fast through emails. Cheers and good luck!	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-05-01 11:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Certification by Translator	FWAGUY, Surprisingly you left out the fact that normally the translation must also be notarized by a notary of public or embassy official once the competent translator performs such service. QUOTE (fwaguy @ Apr 30 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Ash * Habibati @ Apr 30 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any documents that you are using that are required by USCIS/NVC/ETC must be translated by an "approved" translator. NOT True, USCIS requires only certification by the translator... There is no APPROVED translator list published anywhere by USCIS. The embassy website or consulate for your area should provide you with a list of official translators in your country. The paper must be signed and stamped by that translator's office. Local procedures vary widely. What is required in Phillipines may be very different than Tunisia Many Embassies will except documents in the native language and do not require translation. Most likely true But anything going to a US Office or point of contact must be done by an official translator. Again not true, anything submitted to the USCIS must be accompanied by an English translation with the appropriate certification. The certification is simply a statement by the translator indicating his/her competancy in BOTH languages. However, documents that you might be using as proof of your relationship - say emails or something like this, you might be able to just translate those yourself? If and only if required and they meet the required certification standard. Maybe someone else has further clarification about that. It is a great idea and it helps to show ongoing relationship, cannot hurt you at all. QUOTE (Ramel @ Apr 30 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thank you su much guys..you guys rock!!!! I save a lot of money because of this website....just hoping and praying that my petition will be approve soon... yes i'm talking about the proff of our ongoing relation like emails and letters ang greeting cards...so it's ok to translate those by myself? do i still have to put my name on the translator though?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-05-01 09:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Tourist Visa questions	NO not true, it will make it easier. Rather hard if coming from former Soviet Union CIS member states, only those that belong to EU have it easy. Basically your friend is going to have to go to the US embassy in Kiev for interview and apply for a tourist visa, which are normally granted for 5 years duration at a time, if your friend is single woman, it is almost highly unlikely they will grant her a tourist visa, it is possible but not something that they do everyday nor something that is easy to get. Not sure how it works with UK embassy but with USA embassy it is not that easy and not to rain on your parade, but very unlikely or very hard to get a tourist visa for a single woman from Ukraine to come to USA. Does not mean you cannot try, but do not be disappointed if you get turned down flat out, it happens all the time. Good luck. QUOTE (Brandon TX @ May 1 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am currently talking to a lady in Ukraine and was curious about something. I have heard stories that if a individual gets a tourist visa into the US, that it makes getting the K1 more difficult. Is this true? Also, how hard is it to get a tourist visa into the US? I was able to sponsor a Ukrainian to meet me in the UK and although it was difficult, it was not that bad. Thank you for any help.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-05-01 13:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	double process!!!!!	QUOTE (rebeccajo @ May 8 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pushbrk @ May 8 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ May 8 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (pushbrk @ May 8 2008, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rebeccajo @ May 8 2008, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let me get this straight. You entered the US on your K1 but prior to that you got married in your home country? Not only that but they have an I-130 and I-129F for spouse in the system, to be used as evidence against them. USCIS won't have to go that far in denying the adjustment of status. The marriage certificate dated prior to the US entry that must be submitted with the I485 will immediately halt the adjustment. I'm also concerned about the misrepresentation that occured at POE. Very concerned. At interview, then POE. The case on file would cover any attempt to further misrepresent at the AOS stage by marrying again in the US and submitting a new marriage certificate. They're caught six ways from Sunday. I hope the USC likes the D. R. because it looks like they may need to pack up and move back there to be together. Um...I'm not picking on you, Mike, but I'm not sure there was misrepresentation at interview. It sounds like the interview may have been a very long time ago. I'm giving the OP the benefit of the doubt on that one. Doubt anything happens, I mean they could just go right ahead and get remarried in the USA with new ceremony and go from there with that certificate and call or write to USCIS and cancel the K3, or K1 whichever, they are going to be fine.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-05-08 15:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa - Valid for how long?	6 months, if you need more time you better do some research and ask if someone else on here has been able to take longer and how they did it. Good luck. QUOTE (Jools @ Jun 6 2008, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We're currently part way through the K1 visa process, i've received my first packet from the London Embassy. However, circumstances have changed slightly since our application and i may not be able to move to the US quite as soon as we'd hoped. In the K1 visa timeline it says that its 'normally' expected that you use the K1 visa within 6 months of issue. How firm is this and can you negotiate this with the embassy/nvc etc so that it can be extended? We're not talking by long, maybe 6-9 months from issue? Thanks	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-06 09:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Communist Party Membership of Fiancee	You are probably going to have problems if still a member of communist party, would consider dropping out now. QUOTE (XiaoBai @ Jun 8 2008, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was interested if anyone here had applied for a K-1 visa when there fiancee was a member of the Communist Party. My fiancee belongs to the communist party in China. It was for the benefit of her employment. I know being a member of the communist party is a bar to immigration but there are some exceptions. Has anyone here gone through that or had any experiences with it at the embassy, background check, or interview? Would love to have some input from those that have had personal experience with it. Thanks.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-08 17:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	i want to learn more about visajourney	Also there is a forum just for people with spouses from Phillipines on the main forum page, so that will give you even more answers on country specifics or embassy specifics or tips from those who already filed and went through K1 process there. Good luck. QUOTE (patonob @ Jun 10 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <patn1957> Hi im julieta dulojan,i am new here and i need more help about visajourney and the k-1 visa. i need more help a lot	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-11 05:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	I-134 & I-864A, whats the differance?	I-864 is for AOS not K1. I134 is for K1, you are right not your father. Good luck. QUOTE (lotuspearls @ Jun 12 2008, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am self employed and cannot show sufficiant income on my tax returns, for support of my fiance in Thailand. I will use my father as my additional income support/sponser. I live elsewhere from him in another US state. He feels the I-864 is the correct form, but I am not sure the differance. Can anyone help me clear things up? Thanks so much	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-12 22:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	help please	If you get married before you get k1 then you will have to file K3 visa if in another country you marry. If he stays or continues on the K1 path which you already filed, and you get married and do not file for AOS and he leaves the USA and tries to return he is out of status and will be denied entry back into the USA and could be not allowed to re-enter for a very long time. It can happen. your citizenship is not on the line. NO you cannot file for a tourist visa or visitor visa in the future if after you file for K1 and get married and then leave the USA without advanced parole or filing for AOS. Once you file for a K1 and it is approved, your tourist visa status is revoked and you are now under the K1 status and have to follow their procedures, which you refer to that 90 day window once they arrive in the USA to get married otherwise they have to return and go back to their country. If you never marry under K1 and return to your country after the 90 day window, then you can reapply for a tourist visa in future. QUOTE (yamilet @ Jun 11 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> what happens if your fiancee and you get married before the 90 days decided that won't work out. if he stays with da k1 no aos filed, would your citizenship be on the line. and what I'f he leaves back to the origin country. in the future can that person the benneficiary still apply for a visitor visa or anything in the future?	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-12 22:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	MY FOREIGN FIANCEE'S DIVORCE WAS NOT COMPLETED WHEN I MET HER	Matters when you file for K1 if she was free to marry or divorced yet. QUOTE (united728g @ Jun 12 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I HAVE MET MY FOREIGN FIANCEE 3 TIMES IN PERSON BUT HER DIVORCE WAS NOT COMPLETE AT THE TIME. IF I PROCESS THE I-129 AND SHOW PROOF OF MEETING HER IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. WILL THIS BE VALID EVEN THOUGH HER DIVORCE WAS NOT FINAL? OR DO I HAVE TO MEET HER AGAIN NOW THAT HER DIVORCE IS COMPLETED? BEFORE I SEND IN THE I-129 PATITION THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-12 22:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	New filer....	You move and you complicate your process for yourself, meaning more paperwork. This website has some good information along with 2 or 3 other websites on immigration through marriage. You should look at the Guides section on this website for K1 and it will give you many examples of what forms to fill out and how and when and also should have links to the blank forms which will also have the new fee structure. And on this tab there will be many flowcharts and detailed directions to help you along the way. Then if you have any questions you can post on this forum and more than likely someone will be able to answer them for you. Good idea to get head start, right now you just need to read the K1 I129F form directions, read this website K1 guide and instructions, then you will have more of an idea of what you need to do or not do. Good luck. QUOTE (the_mrs @ Jun 12 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I haven't even began the K-1 process! I am not filing until August if this year. I feel like I'm going crazy because this process is going to be harder and take longer than I would have ever thought. There are a few things I am still unsure of, such as the amount I would have to pay for this entire process, excluding the travel fees. Does anyone have experiences to share?? I've decided to start getting everything together early, things I would need for interviews and to file, that way I am prepared way ahead of time. I just hope this will all be over soon so my fiance and I can start our normal lives together. Does anyone know if I would be able to move to another state during this process? I live in So Cal right now, but I want to move to Las Vegas. Thank you!	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-12 22:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Marriage without visa app?	Wrong, she never mentioned filing a I-130, just thinking she could travel back and forth in and out after marriage without filing anything and with the intent of getting married while on a tourist visa, what she is going to do technically is visa fraud, but go on try it and see what happens and then try to explain it to CBP or immigration later on, they will eventually catch it and then problems will arise. Good luck. QUOTE (pushbrk @ Jun 14 2008, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (aleena @ Jun 14 2008, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (zqt3344 @ Jun 14 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Once you get married in the USA, you are here to stay until you get a GreenCard approved or advanced parole and you leave the USA without one of those and you will not be allowed back in, and if the border patrol catch you doing all this which more than likely they will, you may find yourself never getting to come back to the USA for a long long time. Once you get married in August on that tourist visa you are locked into the USA and cannot leave and travel outside of the USA legally until you apply for and get a GC or advanced parole. Thus you come to USA in August with the intent to get married on your tourist visa and you are committing visa fraud plain and simple. FALSE!!!! You ARE allowed to enter on a tourist visa and get married!!! Nobody tells you that you can't get married... And your situation is perfectly understandable if you plan to return to Canada after the wedding. You can aply for spouse visa later. Just make sure that upon your entry in the US for your wedding you have planty of evidence that you are going back. Bring evidence from college that you have one year of study left and other stuff that have been mantioned above. What you are not allowed to do is enter on tourist visa...get married, stay in the US and adjust status. that is visa fraud! there is no fraud in enetering...getting married and going back! the only draw back would be that after you are married to a US citizen you will definitely need stong proof at the border if you ever wanted to travel to the US as a tourist. Good luck Yes, ZQT3344 yas mixed up some context and given false advise. Marriage in the USA has no impact whatsoever on your ability to travel back to Canada, nor does it make you ineligible to return to the USA. State's don't report marriages to CBP, so the border won't know you married a US Citizen unless you tell them. There are circumstances under which ZQ's advise is accurate but yours is not one of them. An example would be entering with a fiance visa and then leaving and trying to return without advanced parole or a green card. Another would be somebody who has over-stayed their time allowed on a legal entry. The potential entry problem to which I referred is the possibility you'll be deemed to have immigrant intent. So, after your marriage, (more specifically after your husband files an I-130 immigrant visa petition for you) you'll want to have evidence of your strong ties to Canada like you mentioned. Your enrollment in the University program, employment and/or lease papers etc. would be good to carry with you in case your intentions are questioned.	zqt3344	Male	Ukraine	2008-06-14 08:25:00