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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJust starting out...
QUOTE (Dan & Tien @ Jul 1 2008, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello Everyone!

After reading a bunch of the posts on this site, I must say that I am a lot more fearful then I was before.

Here is my situation:

Tien and I met during a trip I took with my friends back in May 2008. She is the cousin of my coworker, who has also been a close friend to me during the time we have worked together. My coworker wanted to have someone to show my friends and I around Ho Chi Minh City, and since she has cousins there near our age, she said we should look them up when we are there. We met three of my coworkers cousins after we arrived in Ho Chi Minh. One of the three cousins was Tien. Tien and I did not expect anything to click between us. Who ever does expect things like this to happen? But all the same we got along really well and there was this spark that I just can not describe. Over the course of my trip I got to know Tien better and better, even to where I was spending all of my time with her and none with my friends towards the end of the trip. Friendship and attraction grew quickly to love, and the Saturday before I left I told her that I could not live without her and wanted to marry her. She accepted, and I have never been so happy.

All of this happened within the just over two weeks I was in Vietnam. Some people say that is way too fast, but it just feels right. I have never been so sure about anything before. I was always a firm believer that you can not love someone until you know them for quite some time, but now I have proved myself wrong.

However, because of the time frame for things I fear that we may be way short in what we need to get everything approved for a K1 visa. That is where I need anyones help and advice. Due to the time frame, we have not had an actual engagement ceremony. However, I did ask her parents permission to marry her. Has anyone had success with knowing someone this short of time and not having had an engagement ceremony? We were so consumed with just being together and enjoying eachothers company that we do not have many pictures, and the pictures that we do have are not dated. We simply were not thinking about any of this, all we were thinking about was how happy we were right then together. I want to take another trip to Vietnam, but unfortunately she is about to get a new job as an English teacher, so she can not take off any time until Tet (Vietnamese New Year). We talk three to four hours a day, mostly by chatting. I am keeping all records of our phone calls, emails, and chats. I am just so worried after reading some of the things posted on this site that we are going to have a difficult road ahead. Any advice regarding some of the things we may need to do that is outside of what is posted in the normal government websites is appreciated. I can not stand to be without Tien. Every day without her has felt like an eternity, and we are only just at the beginning.

Thank you all



You would be better off if you go back, have the engagement party, document the trip, etc. You may be fine, but this is not your average Consulate. What applies at most of the others does not apply here.
Welcome to HCMC. Good luck.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-07-01 00:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMy K1 Visa rejected - will return back to u.s.
Everyone who is reading this thread and freaking out remember: This is the Ho Chi Minh City Consulate! It is considered a high fraud Consulate and they got busted lying. Whether or not it was a misunderstanding only they know. Prepare your paperwork with your i's dotted and your t's crossed, gather your evidence and put your best feet forward. You will be fine!
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-18 08:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProcessing times in HCMC, Vietnam
QUOTE (Brian & Hanh @ Oct 15 2008, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We have been interviewed and submitted all documentation to the Consulate in HCMC as of 6/13/08. They say they will contact the beneficiary with further info and there is no need to provide further documentation.

4 months have past. No response from them and they will not tell us when the visa will be processed. It is as if the Vietnamese govt controls the US embassy, because this is the same response i got from many Vietnamese govt offices when i was trying to form a business there in Vietnam. At least a little money to the govt official worked wonders for the Vietnamese officials. It seems our govt in the US is operating in the same manner on VN soil.

I can find nothing out about processing times in HCMC, for a case that has all proper documentation submitted, interview completed and is just waiting for the visa.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Brian & Hanh
I know it's a stupid question, but have you tried emailing and calling them and your Congressional Representatives?
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-10-16 05:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed recomendation for a good attorny
QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Dec 18 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found this website

http://www.helplinel...ge/marriage.php

It shows the process and timeline that it would take to get married in vietnam. If I send her power of attorny she can do most of this all I would have to be there for is the last stage to show my passport so I could marry her in 2 or 3 weeks not 1 month or 45 days unless you see something i might have missed



The order in registering a marriage at the diplomatic or consular office is as follows:

After receiving the dossier and fee, the diplomatic or consular office shall check the dossier, and if necessary, discuss with the offices concerned in Vietnam.
Within 30 days after receiving the official request from the diplomatic or consular office, the offices concerned at home must give their answer in writing; if further verification is needed, the time limit may be extended but by not more than 15 days.
If the person concerned is judged qualified for the marriage and the registration of the marriage is not at variance with the laws of the receiving country, the head of the diplomatic or consular office shall sigh the marriage certificate.
Within 7 days after signing the marriage certificate, the diplomatic or consular office shall deliver the marriage certificate to the person concerned and register it in the Marriage Register unless otherwise requested by the person concerned about the time-limit.
Both sides must be present and produce their passports, or other valid papers as substitutes.


This sh!t makes my head hurt! laughing.gif

Edited by Joe Six-Pack, 18 December 2008 - 11:13 PM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-12-18 23:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed recomendation for a good attorny
Regarding the marriage route in VN here is a thread:

http://www.visajourn...howtopic=153347

Post #12 mentions a service here in the States. I don't know anything about the service other than what is there. You may want to P/M the person who posted it.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-12-18 23:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed recomendation for a good attorny
QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Dec 18 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Joe Six-Pack @ Dec 18 2008, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call Mr. Truong at 84-8-261-4124. He's partner's with Eliis in HCMC. I f you can't afford Ellis then there's no way you'll be able to afford any of the others. Good luck with that Canada thing, if you choose that route.


What does Ellis charge to take a case usually?


He asked me not to post what he charges on here. When/if you do get a a hold of him tell him you found his name on VJ.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-12-18 22:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed recomendation for a good attorny
Call Mr. Truong at 84-8-261-4124. He's partner's with Eliis in HCMC. I f you can't afford Ellis then there's no way you'll be able to afford any of the others. Good luck with that Canada thing, if you choose that route.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-12-18 19:08:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresVisa pending Report of Birth Abroad
QUOTE (rahi @ Aug 5 2008, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi,
i did the consular repost of birth for my daughter at the consulate of us in toronto ,canada.
ti will take about 3 to 4 weeks from the date of the appointment.
i think there will be no need for the DNA test ,
the birth certificate of the child which shows both parents full names and date of births should be enough.
DNA tests are done only when there is lack of proof like a birth certificate.

good luck.
rahi


This is HCMC, not Toronto. They may ask for a D.N.A. test, so be prepared. I know of one case where they asked for one, but didn't follow through when an Attorney threatened to sue.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-08-09 11:27:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
QUOTE (MMW @ Feb 18 2009, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Joe Six-Pack @ Feb 18 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe you should read the W7 instructions.

c Have the copies notarized by a foreign notary. However, foreign
notaries are only acceptable as outlined by the Hague Convention.
The Hague Convention provides for the simplified certification of
public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that
have joined the Convention. A certification will be issued in the form
of an "apostille," which will be attached to the copy of the
document.
Note. The apostille must stay attached to the copy of the document
when it is sent to the IRS.

Actually i have read the W-7 and btw have received the ITIN for my wife using it. And my information came directly from an IRS officer not a call center receptionist because i specifically asked to speak to an Agent I did the homework before replying to a post. But I am no expert on the Hague Treaties nor do i claim to know the specifics of how it is applied to a given situation. I just know personal experience with obtaining an ITIN for my spouse for tax purpose.


Some of you have got lucky. I know what it says and I followed the instructions to the t. There's at least one post in this thread that had their ITIN rejected.

Personally I think this thread is a perfect example of why you should have a professional do your taxes. I used Block even though they came to exactly the same conclusions I had, including the notarization. It's on them if I'm audited.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-18 09:05:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
Maybe you should read the W7 instructions.

c Have the copies notarized by a foreign notary. However, foreign
notaries are only acceptable as outlined by the Hague Convention.
The Hague Convention provides for the simplified certification of
public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that
have joined the Convention. A certification will be issued in the form
of an "apostille," which will be attached to the copy of the
document.
Note. The apostille must stay attached to the copy of the document
when it is sent to the IRS.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-18 08:15:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
QUOTE (MMW @ Feb 18 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Feb 5 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (SerenityHope @ Feb 5 2009, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Feb 5 2009, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Malik2008 @ Feb 5 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Feb 5 2009, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Malik2008 @ Feb 5 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just spoke to my attorney about the filing status I should for my 2008. He told me to file as single since my wife is in Pakistan, and in order to file married I would need her SS#. So, I guess it's ok to file as single for those people whose husband/wife is abroad. Can anyone share their opinion? Thanks.


Smart attorney. That's the easy option I used. Then, we filed an amended return after she had a tax ID number.


Thanks, but wouldn't it be a problem at the NVC or the embassy, when they see that I am married but I filed as single? I just want to be sure before I go ahead and file my taxes.


No problem that, if asked about can't be solved with by answering, "My husband's attorney told him to file as single since his wife is in Pakistan, and in order to file married He would need my SS#."





Here is what I did. I filed married and when I sent in my taxes, I also filled an application for a ITIN (tax ID number). You will need a notarized copy of your spouse's passport bio page to do this. It was simple and easy. I actually went to HR Block and they took care of every thing for me. I just had to get the notarized copy of the passport bio page. I did have to send the ITIN app and a POA form to my husband to sign and he sent that back to me and then I was able to sign our joint return for the both of us. It took one afternoon not including the couple weeks of mail time to get documents signed by my husband and returned to me. Cost at HR Block was 219 dollars at a Premium office that deals with special situations. I filed joint as further evidence of a financially-obligated marital relationship which can only help us during the interview process. I don't claim to be an expert but I am an Master's Public Administration and my BA is in Political Science. I more or less know how bureaucracy works and its always been rather safe than sorry with me. It doesn't matter how many copies of text messages, lovey-dovey emails and phone bills you submit of evidence of a true relationship. They want to see that you're willing to spend money on your spouse, put him/her beneficiary on bank accounts, have joint checking/credit accounts, as insurance beneficiary etc. They want a paper trail. Invest the 200 dollars and afternoon. It can only help you.


Getting an ITIN requires a US Notary certifying a copy of the immigrant's passport. That means sending a passort from Pakistan. Pretty cumbersome for most people and highly risky.

The W-7 application doesn't require that that the notary be one from the US, what is says that it needs to be a certified copy of the the Bio page (Certified by the issuing office in the immigrants home country) OR notarized by a US notary (ie. post office court officer ect.)


Wrong. That's actually where The Hague Convention comes in. If the Nation is a member of the convention the papers can be notarized or certified by a local. If not the papers must be verified by a notary at the Consulate or the Embassy. I just went through all of this. When my Wife took in the papers the Consulate knew exactly what she was doing and guided her.

Edited by Joe Six-Pack, 18 February 2009 - 07:48 AM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-18 07:47:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
QUOTE (maadams2004 @ Feb 6 2009, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SerenityHope is correct. I was actually concerned about the same issue as this is the first filing year under my marriage to my wife who is a Dominican citizen. I called the IRS helpline and spoke to a representative there. She told me that I could submit my return with the applications for ITINs for my wife and step-daughters simultaneously. The woman told me I needed certified copies of birth certificates and passport if passports were available. So my wife went to get the birth certificates for the three of them, they're getting certified and translated, and she'll send them to my CPA stateside for filing.

I would think that this would be preferable to filing single as it does show an official shared financial status. Official documentation that your non-U.S. wife/husband is your dependent.


Note. Documentation submitted for a dependent should include a
civil birth certificate (unless a passport is submitted).


The passport is the only "stand alone" ID. No birth certificate is required when it is used for the Spouse. I don't know about the children. I don't think they are eligible for ITIN's though. I could be wrong. The Spouse is actually an exemption in this process as well. Not a dependent. You can't claim someone without a SSN as a dependent.

O/P you don't have to do this now. You can file an amended return and claim the money at a later date. I don't know how long you have.

You mentioned that he worked. There is one drawback to this that I haven't seen mentioned. His foreign income becomes taxable. I don't know a whole lot about that though. My Wife doesn't work.

Block charged me $79 to do mine and an additional $30 for audit insurance. If I receive a refund and then it is subsequently found that they screwed up, Block is responsible for the money.

Edited by Joe Six-Pack, 06 February 2009 - 03:31 PM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-06 15:28:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
QUOTE (ABENITEZ @ Feb 6 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, so let me get this straight. I can file jointly with my husband. He lives in Pakistan. I send in my tax return, a W7 thingy signed by him and a copy of his passport-he sends me copy of his passport, I sign it in front of a notary and thats it? Does that mean u cant file it electronically then? I mean since you have to send all that other paperwork with it?



He takes the passport and official copy of the marriage certificate to the Consulate, specifically American Citizen Services, and gets them notarized. He may have to get a translation done for the marriage certificate. He signs the W-7 and the return and sends them to you. You don't really have the ability to get any of it notarized here. If you can get it done, more power to you! Legally a notary here can't notarize something from outside their State. Remember you can't claim him as a dependent, only as an exemption. I think that after he gets the ITIN issued you could claim him as an exemption on your paycheck, unless you like the big return.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-06 10:18:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
I was wrong about the notarization. According to the W-7 instructions you can use a foreign notary if that country is a member of The Hague Convention. Otherwise the copies must be certified or notarized.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-06 08:33:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresLawyer advised to file Single, even though Married
You can use a National ID and a Birth Certificate instead of a Passport and you can get the copies notarized at the Embassy or Consulate. You also need your Wedding Certificate notarized. The notarization is a requirement if the Spouses country is not a member of The Hague Convention. The W-7 form spells all of this out. The Embassy or Consulate may require a translation as well. You can file and request the ITIN at the same time. You have to mail it in, but you can have the return (if there is one) direct deposited (5-7 weeks). I'm in the process of doing all of this now and I also used Block. You file married filing jointly and claim your Spouse as an exemption. It doubled my return. good.gif

Edited by Joe Six-Pack, 06 February 2009 - 08:15 AM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-02-06 08:11:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresAre The Parent's Birth Certificates Asked For In This Process?
Thanks everybody. I thought I had seen some cases where the Parents were asked to provide B/C's and figured it was for Viet Kieu or their descendants. Thanks for the replies!
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-03-18 20:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresAre The Parent's Birth Certificates Asked For In This Process?
QUOTE (Delicia @ Mar 18 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends if you mean the parents of either of the spouses in a spousal sponsorship? The answer is no.


Yes, I mean mine or my Wife's. We are doing a K-3. I am actually wondering about the consulate in HCMC, Viet Nam. They seem to require things that others aren't. Thanks.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-03-18 12:21:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresAre The Parent's Birth Certificates Asked For In This Process?
I did a quick search and didn't see anything. I'm getting ready to leave Viet Nam and I'm trying to make sure I've got everything I need from here. Thanks.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-03-18 12:08:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresHow to complete AOS package
QUOTE (kman @ May 6 2008, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Want your suggestion for completing AOS for NVC.

Here is my employement history

Graduated college, Dec 18, 2004.
Started working Dec 20, 2004
Income 2005 ~ 35k
Income 2006 ~ 40k
Income 2007 ~ 54k

Same employer for 2005-2007.

I asked for a LOA to get married in India, but was denied. So I quit. I came back in Mar and started working as a contractor for a temp firm. Now I will be converted to a permanent employee in Jun at a salary much higher than in 2007. I have in my file a offer letter from the bank indicating the salary, title, start date. Until I start permanently in Jun, I will be working as a contractor for the temp firm and have pay stubs since march.

Question then is how should I file my AOS papers? What should I include? Will I have any trouble meeting the poverty guidelines?


Regarding the poverty guidelines it depends on you number of Dependants. If it is just for you and your Fiance' or Spouse then no you shouldn't have a problem! $17,200 is 125% for 2 people this year. You're obviously doing well , so fiances should be the least of your concerns in this process.

Edited by WideAwakeInTheUSA, 06 May 2008 - 05:12 PM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-05-06 17:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresViet Nam and K 1 Co-Sponsor
Thanks for the response. I have also read that the Embassies or Consulates have individual guidelines and regulations, whether it is legal or not. I have read that Ho Chi Minh is arbitrarily denying the K-1s with Co-Sponsors.

"My fiancee only carry tax returns for 1 year. The C/o said that they don't accept co-sponsor for k-1 visa.

I don't have any unusual circumstances when filing tax within the last 3 year,


The blue slip say I don't have enough income to support my fiancee, and it also say that I need not turn in any document, until my income is improve significantly. It also said that if I need to turn in any document at later date, I have to get form irs 1722 tax transcript of current year tax.



At the bottom of the page it said that if I don't supply document or evidence requested, or take any action within one year, then the application will be cancel"


http://www.visajourn....php/t9303.html

This is just one example I have found on this site about HCMC.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2007-10-28 15:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresViet Nam and K 1 Co-Sponsor
I have been told that the laws changed in July 2007 and if you do not meet the financial requirements that you can't have a Co-Sponsor. That the K-3 route is the only option. True or not? Thanks. whistling.gif
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2007-09-13 20:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAny idea what this means?
Here we go again. God only knows what they are looking for. If you have submitted every piece of evidence you have, which I am assuming most people would do from the beginning, then what does that leave you? This seems to be a routine stall tactic if they have doubts about the relationship, which they seem to doubt them all. It literally seems like "Guilty until proven innocent" is the code there.

I wish I could give you some advice here. I know what I would do at this point. See some of my other posts and it will quickly become evident.

Good luck.

http://www.visajourn...?showuser=39414
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-01-09 05:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures1 week to go to interview
Sending out a prayer right now. She should be in the process right now....... innocent.gif
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-01-10 22:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures1 week to go to interview
QUOTE (CBR @ Jan 3 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, how in the world did you get your petition approved that fast? You have an interview before people who filed at least 6 months before you did? Amazing.


Damn, that was quick! PREDICTION: An Thuy sails right through the interview and you 2 are celebrating Valentines Day here! I'll wave to you guys as we pass over the Pacific!
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-01-03 23:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresMarriage Question
If I were doing a K-1 I think I would hot tail it to the nearest Court House before they change their mind! Actually, I would probably consider bringing a Priest to the Airport. "May I have your attention please. There will be a wedding in the baggage claim area in 5 minutes. All are invited to attend"!
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-05 10:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTo hire a LAWYER or not to hire a LAWYER...that is the ???
In my 4 months or so on this site I have noticed that this is a "hot button" topic. Obviously each case is different, but HCMC appears to be a bit different as well. I have been told representation there runs $500.00 to $1000.00. For that you have someone on the ground who has experience dealing with the people there. The paperwork on this end appears to be relatively straightforward, or as straightforward as a bureaucracy will allow it to be. In my case I plan to submit the required paperwork, see what happens, and retain representation if necessary. It sounds like your situation is the exact opposite, with you living in Viet Nam already. That should be a major plus, although I remember reading one other case on here that still had problems even though he was living there. That guy even went so far as to invite the powers that be over for dinner so see him and his wife in a "domestic state". Being fluent in Vietnamese sure doesn't hurt your case either. Good luck!

Edited by WideAwakeInTheUSA, 05 February 2008 - 09:43 AM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-05 09:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow In The World Did It Come To This?
I was both surprised and pleased by how quick this post took off. My comment about the Pilgrims and background checks was obviously simplistic and sarcastic. It was intended to be. Hey, I gotta' be me.

My favorite course in College was Contemporary Moral Problems. It was taught by a man named Chris Vanneson who was a Bulgarian Immigrant. This guy knew more about American History and History in general than the whole class combined. He also spoke 6 languages including Latin. His father had been drug out of his house in the middle of the night and either shot or tortured. Chris was in the Bulgarian Army on guard duty when he saw an opportunity and escaped. His eventual destination was obviously America.

I love stories like his. It makes me proud of my Country and the opportunities that our forefathers have provided for us. We reap the benefits of their hard work and the luck that has shined upon our Country. I am an American. I do not want to live anywhere else. It has been instilled upon me from birth that we are a "can do" nation. When "can do" turns into "no you can't" I don't really like it alot. Especially when I feel I am right or that my motives are pure. In short, I expect positive results when dealing with our public institutions.

I am also a Veteran. I got lucky. There were no wars when I served. The closest I came was in 1986 when we bombed Libya. I was stationed in Germany when the orders came down for us to mobilize. We had no idea what was going on. We assumed that the Russians were attacking which would have meant an almost certain death for us as we would have been overwhelmed. The only thing we had to stop them would have been Tactical Nukes, which wouldn't have been a very good thing (duh). I remember thinking "Hey, this isn't what I signed up for"! In retrospect I was completely wrong. It was what I signed up for. It was a not so calculated gamble that worked out well for me and I am grateful. I feel for the families of the Armed Forces today, but I can assure you that most of them would tell you that it is their job. We trust that our leaders are going to do the right thing with our forces. Whether they are or not is still being determined. History will be the judge of that, but I must admit that it doesn't look real good right now.

I knew what I was getting into. I watched my cousin go through this process a few years ago. I watched with a combined sense of fascination, amusement and bewilderment. He was obviously in love and after a few years he got he her. Sorry, way to long. I finally decided that I was tired of being alone, so I set out on my journey (which turned into our journey).

I understand that there are many reasons why the Government proceeds with caution. I also understand that there is technology available to to tell if a person is lying. Why is it not utilized at the petitioners expense? I wouldn't believe some of the stories on this site if I didn't know a little about the process. There has got to be a better way.


So there it is. My humble opinions. Sorry if they are rambling. Once again, I gotta' be me.

Edited by WideAwakeInTheUSA, 05 February 2008 - 07:39 PM.

Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-05 19:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow In The World Did It Come To This?
Who was doing a background on the Pilgrims? Obviously not the Natives.

http://www.freerepub...s/1055662/posts
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-05 11:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow In The World Did It Come To This?
Do any of you ever wonder how it is that you are in the position that you are at the mercy of your Government regarding your marriage? Maybe if everyone had to go through a similar process our divorce rate wouldn't be so high.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-05 09:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresApproved K-1 - Pregnant Fiance- urgent
They have been known to ask for DNA evidence at that Consulate. That means waiting for the birth, even though it is a Citizenship issue rather than a Visa Issue. Welcome to HCMC.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-19 16:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew guy with a question
This post sums it up well:



http://www.visajourn...h...108614&st=0
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-03-07 02:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresDrug Use
QUOTE (bridget @ Mar 25 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't they sell fake pee? unsure.gif



I'll sell some of mine for $1.00 a gallon plus shipping.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-03-25 14:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresA Question of PROOF ....
Just slow down and smell the roses! You have alot of things to be grateful for in this matter.

1.) You're in love.

2.) You speak Vietnamese.

3.) You have a decent amount of money. With that kind of money I would be living there until the Visa was issued.

4.) A book deal? Right on. Make sure and let us know the title.

Take the time to build your case. Make sure it is rock solid. Sure there are obstacles, but they can be overcame!

I apologize for snapping back. We are all in a strange situation that sometimes seems to defy logic.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-16 08:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresA Question of PROOF ....
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QUOTE (WideAwakeInTheUSA @ Feb 16 2008, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (truffles @ Feb 15 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OI OI OI!!!! the lady is simply expressing her experience ,,,,you may think Marc Ellis is the best thing since sliced bread ...and good for you ...you of course, have the right to defend him. You are in a position to be able to explain what he did for you if you have used his services you could have constructive information ....but our primary purpose here is help each other - the OP is asking for confirmation that this information is correct...she is seeking help from people who have been there - she is a little frustrated because as i read her post she has more or less had her hopes dashed ( at least that her perception) and in her shoes i might have written the same kind of sentiment in my haste .....so lets just ease up on the defensive and see if anyone can add to her experience.



I actually prefer flatbread. Regardless ,I do have one piece of advice that I am willing to share with the OP:


If you are using Yahoo Messenger then the chats will be stored on your computer automatically.


Actually you need to set that under "preferrences" then "archive"



I stand corrected. My fault.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-16 05:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresA Question of PROOF ....
QUOTE (truffles @ Feb 15 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OI OI OI!!!! the lady is simply expressing her experience ,,,,you may think Marc Ellis is the best thing since sliced bread ...and good for you ...you of course, have the right to defend him. You are in a position to be able to explain what he did for you if you have used his services you could have constructive information ....but our primary purpose here is help each other - the OP is asking for confirmation that this information is correct...she is seeking help from people who have been there - she is a little frustrated because as i read her post she has more or less had her hopes dashed ( at least that her perception) and in her shoes i might have written the same kind of sentiment in my haste .....so lets just ease up on the defensive and see if anyone can add to her experience.



I actually prefer flatbread. Regardless ,I do have one piece of advice that I am willing to share with the OP:


If you are using Yahoo Messenger then the chats will be stored on your computer automatically.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-16 00:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresA Question of PROOF ....
QUOTE (ILoveTan @ Feb 15 2008, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh p.s. the lawyer (marc ellis by the way for all of you who think he is the best - he struck me as rude, strange and not very bright, sorry, but its that was my impression - plus the consulate in vietnam doesnt like him, why hire a lawyer who the officials DONT LIKE DEALING WITH?) also said that the consulate runs credit checks, background checks, phone checks, checks where you live and who you live with.... its that involved. ????? Is this true? I have NEVER heard this before and have consulted with other lawyers. I was previously married and I live with my ex-husband now because he is my BEST FRIEND. Now I wouldn't state that on any paperwork but Marc Ellis said, oh, the consulate runs phone records, they know who lives where, etc etc.... that sounds like bull to me... we rent our house, its in MY name and the phone is only in MY name.... I dont know for certain but isnt all that a little involved?? Talk about feeling discouraged after talking with Mr. Ellis.... UGH. Why doesnt the consulate just shoot me up with truth serum and lock me in a room with no food or water for days and ask if I really love my fiancee .... if its really like Mr. Ellis says, where does it end? TROI OI (oh my GAWD!! In Vietnamese language) :-)


You are coming to the wrong site to slam Marc Ellis young lady. Maybe he gave you a dose of reality. Can you handle it?
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-02-15 23:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUsing EMAILS and YAHOO CHATS as PROOF ..... help!
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QUOTE (WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 17 2008, 07:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Linda, Here's an online version. Just copy and paste:

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm


I appreciate this but when I cut and paste from yahoo, it loses both the color and the emoticons... does it do that for you?


Yeah I do, but I'm not worried about those things. I'm just happy to find a way to take out the juicy stuff!
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-05-17 12:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUsing EMAILS and YAHOO CHATS as PROOF ..... help!
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QUOTE (PeterFB @ May 17 2008, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since the HCMC Consulate is a high fraud one, to me the only senseable approach is to make your case from the beginning. I've read over and over again about how the Consulate didn't look at any evidence at the interview and handed out a blue slip based on how the I-129f written, including saying the case didn't include any proof of first meeting or ongoing relationship in the I-129f. Of the VJers here who have gotten a pink slip at the interview, most had spend a lot of time preparing their I-129f making sure their case was presented properly including proof of meeting and on going relationship.

Also Marc Ellis has pointed out in a post here on VJ, that your I-129f if approved by the USIC, it will result in a visa unless the Consulate can find evidence that the USCIS didn't know about which would cause the USCIS not to approve your I-129f if they knew about that evidence or evidence that fraud or other unlawful actions that taken place.

Each Embassy and Consulate is different so I'm only saying that this is my approach to HCMC Consulate and getting a K1 visa.

As to editing your yahoo chats or emails, any rich text editor/word processor should keep the icons and formating. You may need to check the manual to be sure. In my case I used TextEdit in OSX 10.4 What I did in Yahoo was to use the "print view" of the email (that gets rid of the ads, mail columns, etc) then copy the entire email, then paste it into the word processor. I'd then edit out the parts I didn't want the USCIS or Consulate to see. Before printing I would also slect a small font size, ie 10 then because my printer also supports printing on both sides, I'd print on both sides of the paper. In Yahoo Messenger, I'd just copy everything into the word processor. Edit then print.

Peter and Thi

I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26


Hi Peter, thanks ... as always you are a great guide for us Vietnam Journey members! I wonder if you know a similar program that would work on a PC (non MAC) computer? I tried to download textedit but it seems to be only for MACs... :-( hmmmm any ideas?
Thanks
ILOVETAN



Linda, Here's an online version. Just copy and paste:

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm

Peter. YOU ROCK! I've been wondering how to do this.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-05-17 07:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUsing EMAILS and YAHOO CHATS as PROOF ..... help!
QUOTE (ILoveTan @ May 17 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (PeterFB @ May 17 2008, 03:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since the HCMC Consulate is a high fraud one, to me the only senseable approach is to make your case from the beginning. I've read over and over again about how the Consulate didn't look at any evidence at the interview and handed out a blue slip based on how the I-129f written, including saying the case didn't include any proof of first meeting or ongoing relationship in the I-129f. Of the VJers here who have gotten a pink slip at the interview, most had spend a lot of time preparing their I-129f making sure their case was presented properly including proof of meeting and on going relationship.

Also Marc Ellis has pointed out in a post here on VJ, that your I-129f if approved by the USIC, it will result in a visa unless the Consulate can find evidence that the USCIS didn't know about which would cause the USCIS not to approve your I-129f if they knew about that evidence or evidence that fraud or other unlawful actions that taken place.

Each Embassy and Consulate is different so I'm only saying that this is my approach to HCMC Consulate and getting a K1 visa.

As to editing your yahoo chats or emails, any rich text editor/word processor should keep the icons and formating. You may need to check the manual to be sure. In my case I used TextEdit in OSX 10.4 What I did in Yahoo was to use the "print view" of the email (that gets rid of the ads, mail columns, etc) then copy the entire email, then paste it into the word processor. I'd then edit out the parts I didn't want the USCIS or Consulate to see. Before printing I would also slect a small font size, ie 10 then because my printer also supports printing on both sides, I'd print on both sides of the paper. In Yahoo Messenger, I'd just copy everything into the word processor. Edit then print.

Peter and Thi

I-129F Sent : 2007-05-26
I-129F NOA1 : 2007-06-11
I-129F RFE(s) :
RFE Reply(s) :
I-129F NOA2 : 2007-10-26
Touched: 2007-11-02
NVC Recieved: 2007-11-16
Consulate recieved ??????
Packet 3 sent 2007-12-11
Packet 3 received 2007-12-24
Packet 3 returned 2007-12-28
Packet 4 sent 2008-1-14
Email Reply with Interview Date 2008-1-23
Interview Date 2008-2-27
Passed Interview 2008-02-27
Visa Pick Up Date 2008-3-05
Received Visa 2008-2-29 (called to pick up earlier)
POE 2008-3-05 Los Angeles
Wedding 2008-4-26


Hi Peter, thanks ... as always you are a great guide for us Vietnam Journey members! I wonder if you know a similar program that would work on a PC (non MAC) computer? I tried to download textedit but it seems to be only for MACs... :-( hmmmm any ideas?
Thanks
ILOVETAN


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What she said.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-05-17 07:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresUsing EMAILS and YAHOO CHATS as PROOF ..... help!
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QUOTE (WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 16 2008, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fwaguy @ May 16 2008, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (WideAwakeInTheUSA @ May 16 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My fault. I am doing a CR-1. I do know of others that have sent in chats and e mails with a K-1 though. PeterFB comes directly to mind. His application sailed through. I consider him the resident guru in the Viet Nam section (not that you don't know your stuff)!


That is why it is important not to mix K-1 advice with K-3 or IR advice... the evidentiary requirement is different.....


For a I-129F petition for alien Fiance(e) providing relationship evidence is optional and in my opinion borders on superfulous.....


Hey Shakespeare. If you are going to use a word like superfluous, then spell it right!

Unbelievable!


No, if you're going to use "the word" superfluous, spell it right. If you use "a word like" superfluous, you can spell it any way you like. devil.gif



I'm a product of West Virginia public education. The fact that I am able to spell at all is a miracle! I thank God every day for spell check.
Teacher MarkMaleVietnam (no flag)2008-05-16 18:28:00