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Ratid... Tek it ova sus.

Im Hiez-haad Ricardo!

Edited by sus, 11 November 2010 - 04:44 PM.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2010-11-11 16:42:00

Requesting a second interview to include the petitioner is a major development and must be taken seriously. It's is NOT a good development. It means the Consular officer thinks the relationship is fraudulent and they will try to discover any material misrepresentation to go with the denial. Expect a "stokes interview". Just google "stokes interview".

Concern yourself first with preparing to overcome the decision to deny the visa. All your other issues are minor details.

Pushbrk - Please familiarize yourself with the embassy of which you are speaking before you make a blanket declaration. This is COMMON practice in Jamaica - In fact, many used to recommend that you attend the interview so that this could be avoided. However, the embassy recently changed to not allow the petitioner (without special permission) to attend the initial interview, and will blue slip if they feel appropriate.

Most people that were blue slipped incurred the cost of the trip - only to walk into the embassy, be asked who they petitioned for, and were approved.

Your response is not accurate for Jamaica.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2010-11-11 15:57:00

Thanks for the info - there seems to be no rhyme or reason to this system - the other blue slip I saw it seemed fairly clear as to why - Yours, it's hard to tell.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2010-11-11 13:11:00

Answers

1. NO... it's done on the first available basis which may be after 11/23/2010 at this point.
2. After the inteview..? IT'S recommened NOT to make ANY travel plans until AFTER you get the passport back.. may take upto 2 weeks.. also if it arrives with ERRORS then it must be returned.
3. approximately up to 2 weeks currenly
4. They submit the necessary info on the computer that is linked to the SSN office/ and a back office team processes the submitted cases* Not certain on this..!

1. Agree with Ricardo
2. Agree again, and add to it, sometimes longer - there are people who have waited months to get their passport back, go to the portal page on here, there is a member who recently posted from JA that they have been waiting since early September and are being told it hasn't printed yet. There are others who got their passports back within a week. No way to predict a timeline, it's "soon come".
3. See my #2
4. This is not for K1 cases - you have to wait until at least two weeks after they arrive in the US, then go apply for the SSN at your local office.

Can you give more details on his interview? Any idea why they blue slipped him for you to come back with him? Thanks!

sus

Female

Jamaica

2010-11-11 08:36:00

Intent Letter

Same email - if you go into the regional forum you will find JA specific info - here's one that contains the packet 3 info and forms -

http://www.visajourn...sy-in-kingston/

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-03-06 13:41:00

Intent Letter

I did not send a letter with intent to marry either. I am wondering what is going on with case. It's been 5 months and I havent recieved my NOA2 or and an RFE either. I am wondering if I am going to get an RFE or just my NOA2

Look at the timelines on here - VSC is still processing from August and Sept, so I wouldn't stress yet that you haven't gotten NOA2

Thanks, and trust me, my fiance has so much stuff it is definitely overkill LOL

I wouldn't wait forever for Packet 3 from the Embassy -you can ask them to email it to you - JA mail is notorious for going MIA.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-03-06 10:14:00

K1- Visa ( Medical exam. Prior immunization papers )

I know what u mean. I told him to go to a clinic. Someone else told me to have him go there cause that's where her fiancé did.

Anyways so where's eureka rd? Is that near ochi? I need him to get this card asap. Ugh

Did you file yet? Worry more about putting the K1 together - you have 6 - 8 months before he needs his immunization records, plenty of time to sort it out

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-04-19 07:48:00

K1- Visa ( Medical exam. Prior immunization papers )

Have him try the schools he attended, they may have the records -

If he can't get them, he can go to the local clinic and get them in advance, just make sure he gets confirmation that he has received them - This will be way cheaper then waiting to the medical to get them - Not having had the shots won't affect his visa - they will give them at his medical if he doesn't have proof of them, it will just cost you more.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-04-18 09:45:00

USCIS NEEDS MORE EVIDENCE HELP!!!!

They are processing the petition - The request for evidence means they looked it over and you forgot to include something in your packet - When you get the letter, comply with what they ask for and send it back ASAP following the instructions in the letter - then your petition will continue to process.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-04-25 12:46:00

ANNOYING...

I don't understand the whole "higher taxes" thing. USCIS received over 10.5 million dollars last year to process K-1 visa, where did that money come from? the fee you pay to process the visa. No tax money should have been needed. When it lowered the processing fee in November it cut over 2 million dollars from its budget. If it needed to hire more workers it shouldn't have lowered the fee. When I mail a letter from New York to California it doesn't cost tax payers money, I pay the processing cost. When I renew my drivers licence it doesn't cost tax payers money, I pay the processing cost. When I applied for my passport, I payed the processing cost. What they should do is if you want a K-1 visa processed faster they should charge a higher rate, just like I did to process my passport. I paid $80 more to get it faster.

What people don't seemed to understand is that K-1 are an "expedited" visa to begin with. Yes, the K-1 visa is an expedited visa thats why you get it so fast (averaging 6-9 month). Can you imagine the wait if it was not "expedited".

So, by paying the processing cost for your license, passport, mail, etc... - you are covering the cost of the employee's salary, medical benefits, the equipment used to make the license, passport, etc..., the cost of rent / ownership of the building, the cost of utilities, gas for the vehicle to transport the documents, etc.....? :whistle:

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-04-22 14:12:00

Phone History ISSUES!! What do I do?

I do have the two letters of intent, however when I met with a lawyer on Thursday (NOT going to use him as I realized I'm better off on my own filing) he said that letters of intent aren't needed for the I-129F and said he doesn't understand why people do it?

Also the letter of intent and G-325a forms from my fiance was signed by him but faxed to me so it's a photo copy of his signature. This same lawyer stated that I need to sign by the signature to show original signature. Is that correct?

It sounds like you met with a lawyer who doesn't really understand immigration - cause if you read the filing requirements they ask for the letter of intent. Also, you file copies and bring the originals with you to the interview - Include the form that says you certify that everything is a true and correct copy (look in the guides here) and be prepared with the originals at the interview.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-05-28 11:29:00

I-134 Affidavit of Support

Jamaica will often ask for 3 years, so better to be prepared and have it.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-10 14:17:00

No Immunization Record

Yeah some people get really picky about people from other countries giving advice, on this front it's a bit silly but whatever

The TRUTH is the list I gave you is correct. Those are the shots that are required BUT some countries like Mexico don't ask for shots to get the K1, Australia does. The UK doesn't have the varicella shot available in their country so that isn't "needed" at the embassy.

Personally I don't think they would ignore the blood titer (blood titre) but knowing that it's an option and ASKING them is good. So give the doctor a call and see if he'd accept a blood titre showing immunities, he says no, then you know. Here's the doctor list: http://kingston.usem...dicalexams.html (you probably already had it). Australia's list also says "immunisation records" and I wasn't aware of the the titre was even an option till someone else told me AFTER my medical.

So yes, countries do some things differently but ASKING if it's an option won't hurt anything and could save you time and money.

While good advise - She is getting advice from people with experience with the Jamaican medical that the blood titre will NOT work and is not an option.

Dealing with Jamaica, there are four options:
1, Have your medical records
2. Go to your school and see if you can obtain a copy of your immunization records
3. Go to the clinic, prior to your medical, and obtain all the shots
4. Show up at the medical without any of the above, and pay an arm and a leg for the shots.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-12 14:45:00

Overseas Job

You also have to factor in that he is getting a conditional GC, then has to lift conditions in two years - A GC puts time constraints on how long you are out of the country, so living outside of the US could lead to more problems.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-17 04:38:00

Overseas Job

I am not sure as to who to tell you to contact - How long will you be working overseas? Your fiance has 6 months after the visa is issued to use it - Once he enters the US, you have to marry here and then he cannot leave the US until you adjust status / get advance parole - Are you intending to leave him here in the US alone? Another factor is to check what country you are going to - he might need a visa there.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-16 04:38:00

You may be right about Jamaica understanding, but would really be bad if she ran into one of those USA COs that may not be in such an understanding mood..... you know- the ones that run the K-1/K-3 interviews?

OK - That should be the end of my sarcasm. (Well maybe just one more - would be sad to think that the standards of what is 'respectable' or expected for a beneficiary's country is running the decisions of our COs..... I dont know if they would take kindly to us saying, "Let this slide - you know everyone does it...") OK really done now with the jerk comments.
@ Caroline + Angelo - Kudos for trying to help out with some internet knowledge. Sorry to offend you by commenting on your comment.

No one is talking about what is "respectable" or expected to run the decisions of our COs - What Peace is saying by her post is the fact that, like it or not, this is VERY prevalent in the country - Accepted or not, it's there, it grows freely on the sides of the road, people approach tourists all the time with offers of "tours of the fields" and similar. I even know people that have been drug tested by immigration leaving the country to check for use - And the presence of it can result in a nice hospital stay until they ensure that you are not smuggling any back with you.

What I interpret Peace as saying is the fact that in Jamaica, the medicals test for it and they ask the question - even if the test is negative, a yes admission to prior use will be marked down on the medical report - There have been several VJ members who went through this - I can think of 2 off the top of my head who got denials and a 3 year ban with a clean drug test but an admission of having tried it in the past - There was another more recent since the law changed who had their approval held and had to go back for a second medical and test one year post admitted use.

It's unfortunate - but it's a reality, and one that is applied way harsher in JA than in other countries - I remember reading about a K1 from Mexico who not only admitted using that, they also tested positive for that AND cocaine - Yet was given the visa - There are other countries that do not drug test at all. So, as for applying the standards of the country to the decisions of the COs - it appears to be the reverse in JA, don't you think?

This is a very unfortunate situation, and the first two I have seen involving a minor - I just hope and pray that the COs will be lenient and let them through with their parents.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-30 07:46:00

Sometimes God's hands are manifested by your foot in his behind. Hopefully this will be a not too painful lesson for him on the impact of even small decisions. Good luck to you.

This is too funny.

Quote of the year!

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-29 12:54:00

It would only effect him, however since he is minor child, they might cut some slack... MIGHT is the key word here.

If I were you I would contact Immigration Attorney ASAP

An immigration attorney is not going to do anything at this point - they can't speak at the interview on his behalf -

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-29 11:23:00

They changed the law fairly recently - If he tests clean, even though he admitted to trying it - he could not receive the visa at this time, but have to go back for another medical 1 year from the date of last use of the drug, and if he tests clean then he could be given the visa - it's not an out and out denial, but it could be a set back of up to 1 year (that is, providing he gets it together and no more "sampling" - you need a long talk about the MAJOR effect this could have on his life and future). Search through the JA posts, there was a member who went through this within the past year.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-28 18:29:00

K-1 visa interview

No, it's not possible to schedule an interview before NOA2 - it's not even possible to schedule an interview right when getting NOA2 - you have to go through the NVC, then they send it to the embassy, then the embassy will tell YOU when the interview is on their schedule - unfortunately you have no control over it.

Second, having or not having a lawyer will not speed up / slow down the process or avoid a request for additional evidence.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-25 13:11:00

Wow wasn't that a friendly post. I was suggesting that if they KNEW this, they might have been judgmental. This is not a case of denial due to bankruptcy. And this IS Jamaica.

Your post is so far off base it's not even CLOSE to reality - Do some research on Jamaica, since you want to post an authoritative statement about how pregnancy out of marriage is frowned on there - It's far more common in Jamaica to find single mothers and or common law marriages then legal ones -

The hot topic in Jamaica of recent note is the ongoing issue of "Jackets" - Your post is irrelevant and hurtful to someone in a tough time.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-06 15:19:00

Definitely get your Congressman / Senator involved - Get your fiance to write down all the details, who exactly said you were too old for him, everything and anything - If an immigration officer truly said that to him, I would be doing everything in my power to have that person fired - There are LAWS against that type of discrimination and to make an out and out statement would clearly be in violation of policy.

I am sorry for your loss - Take a deep breath and try to focus on moving forward and fighting this idiocy.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-06 14:29:00

I have emailed them twice with no response, and they only gave him his passport back and our pictures

Keep emailing them - Put third request, etc.... in your reference line - the squeaky wheel is the one that gets the oil.

Also read through some of the other JA threads in the past week - there are a few others dealing with similar.

I am curious about your timeline - it says you had an interview 6/14, then a second interview? What was the second interview for?

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-06 12:12:00

Something doesn't sound right, T&J - I have never heard of a past bankruptcy causing a denial of the petition - Especially one that was three years ago, and you make over the limits since - Plus, if the financial reasons were the reason for the denial, they typically would give your fiance a blue slip to return and ask for a co-sponsor.

Have you emailed the embassy at all to see what they said? Did they give your fiance anything at his interview?

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-06 11:57:00

blue slipped two weeks after interview

THC very serious there, automatic denial, you will be OK, It will be a 2 year wait. Good Luck,

Incorrect information bigdog - Read the whole post and the links - the law was changed in 2010 - it is a one year past LAST use wait.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-27 07:51:00

blue slipped two weeks after interview

Stacy, I am sorry you are dealing with this - JAP gave you the right information - there were others denied and given the ban in the past (not even for a positive test, but for an admission of use) who are also now in the US - But the law has now changed and it's one year post last use that he would have to go back for a second medical, and then he should get his visa if all is well -

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-27 04:35:00

receipt of pymt

what is this fee for?

The fee is for the interview.

Actually, the fee is for the visa itself, not the interview. It has to be paid prior to the interview -

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-07-29 12:37:00

Jamaica! REQUEST PACKET 3-4

Lexi have you ever thought to read through the posts on the forum? Every single question you have asked today is explained in great detail, with updates - Do a search and you will find all your information without having to wait around until someone answers it.

I know you're excited and nervous, but you can find all the info you need and more.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-03 14:05:00

Jamaica! N I M???

Cost is $5000JM - Not $100 - about $60US

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-03 12:37:00

updating you guys

So sorry to hear that, Stacy -

See this link:
http://travel.state.... - June2010.pdf

I think that the key to it is going to be timing - It says if the last refusal was less than 1 year ago, they schedule a new medical and he can get the interview - If it was more than 1 year ago, then you have to refile and go through all of that - He's coming on a derivative visa to your K1, right? So if you can time it right and get his interview date after June 29 and before Aug. 4th, he should be able to get the visa without having to refile it -

I think that to schedule the interview for the derivative visa, you just email the embassy with the case # and information and request an interview date.

Do you have someone he can stay with? I hope he learned his lesson (although the hard way)

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-05 13:50:00

K1 packet

Yes, that is for your fiance to fill out - Honestly, I wouldn't wait for the Jamaican mail system to see if he gets them, so many don't = You can set an email address up for him if he doesn't have one, complete the forms and PDF them to him - there are internet places all over JA - have him go download them somewhere, the cost is minimal and will be much faster then waiting to see if he gets them - The sooner you return them to the embassy, the faster your interview will be assigned.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-13 08:31:00

Phone Record Issue

This do-or-die focus on phone records IS NOT completely necessary, nor is it a hinge in the K-1 process.

Keep in mind it is nothing more than secondary evidence. We did not submit a single phone or email record -- just as many have done -- and it made no difference.

Make sure the primary evidence is rock solid -- evidence from visits, the Petitioner's finances -- and just gather up what you have in the way of the rest.

Under no circumstance should anyone have to subpeona phone companies. That's just crazy.

Well said!

You are stressing yourself way way way too much on minutia - I know this process is overwhelming, but don't make bigger issues out of minor ones, there are enough other items to stress about.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-14 09:21:00

Jamaican Birth Certificate

Are you sure he has a current passport? Cause if he got one since 2007 he should have had to get the new BC

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-08-16 08:39:00

lol please dont.. i know you know as per my Facebook updates.. i've been dealing with issues.

I know, Hon - sending hugs and reach out if you need to vent!

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-24 11:46:00

Oh no.. the interaction between the poster and DOS

Oh, lol - I was bout to cuss yuh, lol!

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-24 11:29:00

dang.. that was harsh wasnt it.... I'd spoken to some mean Immigration Officers At USCIS.. but still treated them like regular reps... wont ever settle

My post was harsh? :angry:

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-24 11:17:00

I would still complain about her - can't hurt, and at least you get to vent!

I would tell your congressman EVERYTHING - tell them the run around you are getting, etc... - let them place some calls and see what they can find out - In the meantime, keep calling and emailing yourself -

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-24 10:51:00

Please search the MENA regional forum for returned petitions, it has all the detailed info you will need to proceed. You must act quick. If the petition has been returned, either you will have a second chance to give your rebuttal after you will get the exact reason for denial or it will expire, at which time starting over is better than a costly and lengthy appeal. This will be a time consuming journey either way.
Try to keep the petition at the foreign post and contact the CO yourself and through your senator.
Ask your fiance for every detail from the interview, every question, no matter how small.
Notarized letters from family and friends attesting of your genuine relationship will also be helpful. This is not a document issue, this is a relationship issue. If documents were missing they would request them on the 221g paper, same goes for them needing additional relationship evidence.
Was he able to answer every question in the interview ?

Great advice -

To answer a few other points raised in this thread = Jamaica does not allow the petitioner to attend the interview= so being how close JA is to the US is irrelevant - on top of which, distance doesn't make a difference, ticket prices are nearly double right now. If they want to interview the petitioner, they will blue slip for them to come back. Secondly, any additional evidence (financial, phone records, etc...) they would blue slip for.

I am so sorry you are going through this but I agree with the above advise - do not wait to see what response you get before contacting your senator, you need to be proactive not reactive and fight to keep your petition in JA before it gets lost in a hole somewhere - contact anyone and everyone you can, and keep doing so until you get an answer.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-24 04:33:00

I would not wait for the case to get to the US - I would have a long talk with your fiance and get every detail of the interview - Also get on the phone with your senator and congressman, and have them put in inquiries - Additionally, email the embassy yourself for information - They would not deny outright for that, they would ask for additional info and blue slip.

sus

Female

Jamaica

2011-06-23 13:03:00