Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	I wonder if anyone waiting other than Ly has been called yet... I expected Ly would get a letter or an email end of last or this week...	ScottThuy	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-26 14:29:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 27 2009, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Kevin, Have you called DoS to see what the status of the case is? It may help you a bit or at a minimum let you know where the case is... The last thing I got was a NOA stating that our case was forwarded to the Consulate.	Kevin and	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 16:31:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (vuster @ Oct 27 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID My U.S rept told me to not try to keep it at the embassy but to let it go back to the US. After getting back to the U.S, then they have to write a long letter stating their decision and then I can do the rebuttal for it. How much to hire an attorney and what will happen after hiring them? What is the average wait time until I get to Rebut? In my case, my wife failed the interview on Nov. 7, 2008. The case was sent back and USCIS (California Service Center) didn't recieve the file until early June 2009. I was given 30 days to submit a rebuttal. USCIS reaffirmed the petition in August 2009 and the file was sent back to NVC for processing. NVC forwarded the case file to the Consulate in HCMC on Sept 25, 2009. I'm now just waiting for a letter of some sort from the Consulate because I have no idea what to do next until I recieve some word from them. I have been emailing the Consulate every week to find out the status of our case. So far they have not received it yet.	Kevin and	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 16:12:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID My U.S rept told me to not try to keep it at the embassy but to let it go back to the US. After getting back to the U.S, then they have to write a long letter stating their decision and then I can do the rebuttal for it. How much to hire an attorney and what will happen after hiring them? What is the average wait time until I get to Rebut? An attorney in the US will only process papers for you and make a rebuttal package for you. They don't go to the Consulate and fight for you. An attorney would probably be about 2k-3k to retain one. Our case was sent back to the service center 08/2007. It was 2 years before the USCIS re-affirmed and sent it back to the NVC for processing. Now we are waiting for the consulate to receive our case so the Chief Immigrant Officer can review it and make a decision. STOP IT FROM BEING SENT BACK TO THE U.S. IF YOU CAN.	Kevin and	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 16:09:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> they are sending the case back and don't know when we're going to receive them. I'M IN SHOCK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. PLEASE HELPPP!!! Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID	Kevin and	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 12:22:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 26 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell? Welcome to my world! 5 months in AP was a cake walk for us. Hang in there, eventually it will be over.	Kevin and	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-27 08:42:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:40:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 30 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any updates from Vi&Art, ToanTien, or LyTrinh? Ly denied same day as houng and us QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm going back to vietnam on the 4th. My wife spoke with lytrinh and she told me he got denied. This is getting crazy guys. I dont'' know what's going on at the consulate. I just got back from vietnam on the 23rd of september now i'm going back again next week, i hope this will let them know that i'm no fraud. I'll update if anything goes. Bro, even if it extends your AP, submit proof of your extra trips, and any new chat logs, just my advice, might be worth the wait if it helps get you approved. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:27:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (fred n Dao Honey @ Oct 29 2009, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel. Jerome, I feel your pain. What happened to you and Binh is what I was affraid of happening to us. I don't mean to poor salt in your wounds but I want to point out so others may learn. From what I understand you visited Binh In Vietnam 2 times that were not in the case record after the interview. For those reading this, you or your fiance/wife may introduce more evidence/information at anytime through certified mail or in person at the embassy between 1 and 2 everyday or USA petitioners only at 4 to 5pm Tuesday and Wednesday. IF you submit more Information the Consulate must review it and that can extend your time in AP. This can be anything you think is relavent to your case. Chat Logs, Pictures, An explanation letter, Airline tickets, Copy of passport, updated timeline.... If they tell you they don't need it. Tell them you insist it goes into the file for review. Re- apply for K1. You are more educated now and should be able to overcome the obsticles. If you go CR1 or K3 and fail it will take a very long time to get it back to VN for a second chance. You could go ahead with the marraige requirements and planning if you want while a new K1 application is going through. Good luck, Fred Don't worry Fred, it might be salt in my wounds, but people do need to read this, and it is true, very true. If you have filed any petition, and go back for a visit, do not go to the consulate and just ask about your case. Submit evidence, even if it is just a copy of your passport with the new visa stamp on it, i did not want to risk more AP. I stand by my decision, with no regrets. With the current state of the American economy and with me going in for surgery this might have actually been a blessing. We will do a rebuttal when it gets back to the USA, this is just to clear our names from any fraud labeling, we are not going to refile, I am making plans after surgery and recovery to move to Vietnam. My ultimate goal, has and always will be to be with Binh, not just to get Binh to America. I really don't care any more, i would like for her to be able to visit my mother and family, but most importantly I want to be with her. Good luck to all and god bless you as well. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 05:19:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 29 2009, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome - is your list of the reasons for denial from the Consulate or from Marc Ellis? If it is from the CO, how were you able to get a response back so quickly? The reason I ask is so that maybe Huong and Phung could do the same thing so they could start working on their rebuttal... QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 05:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel. It was both, Binh had a interview with Mark and those were comments on what he made, and his recomendations, but what I said for denial was from the consulate. They will mail that denial paper to her so they should have theirs any day	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 13:42:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel.	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-29 05:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 28 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> after hearing about these denials i'm really scared. I just bought tickets to vietnam. I'm leaving next week. I'm goiing in at every possibilities to the consulate. Really sad to hear huong and phung and jeromebinh. Keep your heads up and keep on going. Thanks and good luck to you. I would not only go there but submit evidence. I think if I had submitted evidence instead of just going there we might have been better off, I did not want to rick getting put back another 90 days if I resubmitted more evidence, so for my error, I now have to do a rebuttal, or move on with our plans in case of a denial. Honestly, I had planned on moving to vietnam, this just makes this decision easier to do. Good luck, once we find out the reasons why they denied, I will post it. I am sure it has to do with me only having one trip, and the fact that they never looked at our chat logs, so I think it will be no proof of on ongoing relationship, then mention that we do not talk on the phone but maybe once a week, even though we chat for at least 1 or more hours every day, and that I only made one trip. I feel a rebuttal should be easy if this is the reasons for denial, they might also throw in that we did not have wedding plans in stone, in which case I can point to our letter that we both signed stating we were getting married within the 90 days and then also add their own words for people to make NO plans until after they receive the visa. i did get a release form today for my senator so they can also make a inquiry which he said he would gladly do for me, so this also helps keep our hopes up, but in any case we know we will be together even if this means selling the house and moving, after surgery we will figure out what we are going to do for sure refile for k1, do a rebuttal, or just wait until we sell the house and I move back and do a cr1. Good luck Toantien. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 18:38:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Take us off the list as well, They waited until I had left to tell us that we got denied. I think they knew we had proof of the reasons they denied us so they waited until I was gone so I could not go in and complain while it was still at HCMC. Binh goes to see Mark at 9:30 tomorrow. See if he thinks we need to do something now or wait. Huong, sorry to hear about your denial as will and also sorry to hear about LY and at the same time congrats on the upcoming baby. Jerome	jeromebinh	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-28 07:14:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent Photos, 2.Communiciation not credible, 3.One visit, 4.Small engagement, 5.Engagement shortly after meeting, 6.B has 3 relatives in US, but only listed 2; P lived close to B's relatives, 7.Lack of marriage ceremony details Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 68 days in AP - Denied (?) CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos" Edited by lindal24, 30 October 2009 - 10:33 AM.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:28:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm going back to vietnam on the 4th. My wife spoke with lytrinh and she told me he got denied. This is getting crazy guys. I dont'' know what's going on at the consulate. I just got back from vietnam on the 23rd of september now i'm going back again next week, i hope this will let them know that i'm no fraud. I'll update if anything goes. Try to see the CO and submit additional evidence--flight stubs, letters, whatever...We'd like to see another approval! ...this forum's starting to become like the grim reaper... GOODLUCK!!	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:21:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Any updates from Vi&Art, ToanTien, or LyTrinh?	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-30 10:07:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Jerome - is your list of the reasons for denial from the Consulate or from Marc Ellis? If it is from the CO, how were you able to get a response back so quickly? The reason I ask is so that maybe Huong and Phung could do the same thing so they could start working on their rebuttal... QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 29 2009, 05:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here are the reasons for our denial. Mark Ellis thinks it has something to do with my end and my ex wife history with her being in prison for such a serious crime. he also said our time line was great and the mock interview that he had with binh went well. She was slightly confusing when she talks about my job, but my job is hard to explain to anyone. This is also the feed back from Mark Ellis about my case, if anyone has questions about anything here, pm me, and i can give you answers, or if you need help i will share our experiences with you. supposedly we had 5 days worth of photos showing we were together.----we had hundreds of photos at the interview and hundreds more now communication not creditable, our phone records show only short calls, 1 to 3 minutes in length.------we only use phone when INTERNET is down, and to save money we usually simply keep it short and just wait to the next day to chat I only visited her once and has not been there since December.----------- 3 provable trips total now we submitted only evidence of a small inconsequential engagement ceremony no American guests.-------there were close to 100 guests, and in photos there were white people, CO never asked her if any of my family came there or not, and never commented on the white people in the photo's I proposed in a short time of meeting her and had a engagement ceremony shortly after.-----in time line we mentioned that we talked about marriage, but wanted to meet in person to make sure, when I went first time we knew then we were going to be engaged, so we started to plan for Dam Hoi binh said 3 relatives living in Texas, California, and Ohio, then she submitted evidence of California and Kansas and supposedly public records show that I live in Kansas-----Old public records show I live in Kansas, never Kansas City where her aunt lives, the relative in Texas would never send any thing to her to show he lived there so we left that one out unable to prove facts about our wedding, she did not know about estimated costs, or guests---------I did not even know this answer as we only had the date figured out, I have no idea who would come because they say not to plan anything until we have the visa. they investigated where I live and it shows that I do not live where I live. my passport records from 2007 show I live in Salem Indiana, not campbellsburg, which I did live in Salem when I filed for my passport, They also say that I have a record showing that I lived at my work address, this was because when they sent my passport back someone had to sign for it and I was working 5 days per week so I had them send it to work so I could sign for it. RECOMMENDATIONS: Free background check on petitioner. The consulate is obviously looking at something on his end. The background check might show us something. File new K-1 with IMBRA waiver request & full explanation of P’s ex-wife’s incarceration, criminal & marital history. This a K-1 with CSC. There will be no review of this K1. It’s expired, dead, finished. Another option, if he can get the time off, he can go the marriage route & file an I-130. But the disclosure of information about this K1 application & his ex-wife’s problems is absolutely necessary CONCLUSIONS: Chief has signed off on petition return. No turning case around this time at the consulate. P’s ex-wife is incarcerated. She began her incarceration in February, 1999. She could possibly be released in 2013. If P has a criminal history, this needs to be disclosed in the new petition package. The conoff focused on the period from 2006. I’m not sure what he was referring to. Apparently P moved from Kansas or Missouri to Indiana. P submitted a very good time line & his application is pretty well-prepared also. I think problems arose because of he did not disclose his ex-wife’s problems. I don’t know if P has any criminal history. If so, it needs to be disclosed also in the new application. B speaks excellent English. She was extremely well-prepared for the interviewer’s questions. The only incorrect answer involved the move in 2006. The couple presented a good case. The consulate was looking at something else. The evidence was not even considered. B is unclear about his occupation. She says he inspects wood for barrels. But the explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense. Apparently, he is a QC inspector for a company that constructs wooden barrels. They met on line at saigondarlings.com on 23 May, 2008. P has made 3 trips as of late October, 2009. (1st trip 18 Dec 2008 – 17 days, 2nd trip – 1 week, 2 August, 2009, 8 October 2009- 20 days.) P proposed second day after his arrival on 1st trip. B has family in the US, 2 cousins in California and an aunt in Kansas City. Despite the proximity, P had never met B’s aunt in KC. Consulate may not believe that they actually met on-line. As of late October, 2009, P has still never met her aunt. Consulate may also think B would not want to marry a man who has such a dangerous ex-wife. P raises boxers in his kennel.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-29 10:26:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 - 10/28/2009 - 69 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos" Edited by lindal24, 28 October 2009 - 11:34 AM.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-28 11:34:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Looks like a common factor in denials is Timeline...5 denials, each case CO requested at minimum a timeline...	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-28 10:32:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-27 15:24:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC: Vi&Art__________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline JeromeBinh______________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation, Timeline & List of Relatives ToanTien________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Ly Trinh _________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Frank And Duyen (effjaye)___10/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First Blue RFE: Timeline VJ Members who made it out of AP & results: Ituan __________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Lindal24 ________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & List of Relatives FrednDaoHoney__________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED JohnCali9 _______________8/6/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 76 days in AP - APPROVED K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's situation & Timeline MichaelAndKha___________8/15/2009 - 10/21/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline Reasons for Denial: 1.Inconsistent photos, 2.No engagement ceremony, 3.Lack of marriage ceremony details Andy (not a VJ member)____8/17/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 67 days in AP - Denied K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Minh&Nhan (not a VJ member)__09/07/2009 - 10/23/2009 - 46 days in AP - APPROVED Huong and Phung _________9/8/2009 - 10/27/2009 - 49 days in AP - Denied CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (aka the 2nd blue slip). LindaL24 has a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos" Edited by lindal24, 27 October 2009 - 12:42 PM.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-27 12:37:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> EVERYONE! SAD NEWS. OUR VISA HAS BEEN DENIED. I'M IN PAIN RIGHT NOW AND THIS INFORMATION IS BEING GIVEN BY MY U.S REPRESENTATIVE. QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> they are sending the case back and don't know when we're going to receive them. I'M IN SHOCK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. PLEASE HELPPP!!! Sorry to hear about your case being denied--Hang in there! Kevin & Tuyen have experience with VN denial before so hopefully they can give you insight. If you find out what the reason of the denial is, please post it so we can help you address it. Reading the other posts, it's a good idea if you start collecting evidence now for a response to the denial... There is a light at the end of the tunnel, it's just going to be a little further drive... Edited by lindal24, 27 October 2009 - 12:22 PM.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-27 12:17:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 27 2009, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 26 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell? Welcome to my world! 5 months in AP was a cake walk for us. Hang in there, eventually it will be over. Really? 5 months?? A cake walk?? He's been at it for 3 years...	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-27 10:57:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 26 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Has either had their wives go to the window to inquire? I know John's wife found out when she went to the Consulate...and then got a letter later. There was a little bit of traveling for her, but they got pink too... (We never got a notification by phone or mail by the way... ) Dear Scott and Linda t Thank you so much Linda and Scott you tell me to come see the Co as well that the way work very ,I told my friend same way . We call the name "Linda way" thank you johncali9 LOL...the "Linda way"...you're so silly! It's called being impatient or persistant! LOL...	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-26 18:06:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Has either had their wives go to the window to inquire? I know John's wife found out when she went to the Consulate...and then got a letter later. There was a little bit of traveling for her, but they got pink too... (We never got a notification by phone or mail by the way... )	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-26 14:57:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 26 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Linda and Scott how about Trinh Ly and Huong where were the pink ,we want to know johncali9 Waiting for updates from them...haven't heard anything.	lindal24	Female	Vietnam	2009-10-26 14:24:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Maybe there are examining your case really carefully.	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-30 10:41:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Damn seeing the list of Denied people is pretty depressing.. I hope everyone finds a way to get their spouse over to the US.	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-30 10:31:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Aww man Huong and Phung, This sucks, What was the reasoning for the denial? You didn't have enough evidence? Man get that lawyer to help you out.. I hope you get to be with your wife man. Good Luck.	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 19:56:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 26 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell? Welcome to my world! 5 months in AP was a cake walk for us. Hang in there, eventually it will be over. Really? 5 months?? A cake walk??	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 08:58:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	My thoughts and prayers are with you Scott... I pray for her quick recovery.	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 08:33:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	wow congrats to them on having a baby soon...	Dai.	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-26 22:38:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 29 2009, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jerome - is your list of the reasons for denial from the Consulate or from Marc Ellis? If it is from the CO, how were you able to get a response back so quickly? The reason I ask is so that maybe Huong and Phung could do the same thing so they could start working on their rebuttal... Thanks Lindal24. My wife is going to the consulate probably tomorrow to get all the evidence back. Hopefully they give her an explaination for denial. I didn't tell my wife about the news yet because it was her grandma's rememberance day so I didn't want to spoil the environment. She's on her way tomorrow to the consulate and I did silently told her that "anything happen please be calm and ask anh2 to go with you". I didn't mention about the denial. It's gonna be a sad day for her but at least I'm more calm now and I can confort her a little bit. My parents and I are going to visit her on January. Some of my friends probably go there for a visit too. Hopefully this would ease a little bit of the pain. TO CONSULATE OFFICERS ----->>>> if you're reading this. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RUIN OUR LIVES AND OUR FUTURE. WE WERE PLANNING SO MUCH TOGETHER TOO. You have a great day now and we will see you again soon, very soon.	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-29 18:34:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 27 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID My U.S rept told me to not try to keep it at the embassy but to let it go back to the US. After getting back to the U.S, then they have to write a long letter stating their decision and then I can do the rebuttal for it. How much to hire an attorney and what will happen after hiring them? What is the average wait time until I get to Rebut? An attorney in the US will only process papers for you and make a rebuttal package for you. They don't go to the Consulate and fight for you. An attorney would probably be about 2k-3k to retain one. Our case was sent back to the service center 08/2007. It was 2 years before the USCIS re-affirmed and sent it back to the NVC for processing. Now we are waiting for the consulate to receive our case so the Chief Immigrant Officer can review it and make a decision. STOP IT FROM BEING SENT BACK TO THE U.S. IF YOU CAN. Who would be the best candidate to ask for help to get it hold at hcmc? Attorney? How much would it be if I hire Marc? Would they give us a detail denial letter or just the generic one like they give on the blue slip? My U.S Rep told me to wait for it to come back to USCIS then rebut and she said that's faster than keeping it there at the consulate. Anyone else in on this one?	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 18:03:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (Kevin and Tuyen @ Oct 27 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh No! Sorry. 1. Try to get your Rep/Sen to stop it from being sent back so you can address the problems while your case is still in VN a. hire an attorney (M.E.) to help stop it 2. Get a copy of the sheet that states the reasons for denial so you can address them. If you can't stop your case then you will have a chance to rebut the CO at the Service Center, but first it must make its way back through the BS (bureaucracy system). It might be a year before they get to process your case at the Service center. Start gathering your rebuttal documents and bonafides. The USCIS only gives you 30 days to respond to the NOID from the time they send it to you. Aside from that there isn't much you can do until your case gets back to the Service Center for processing and you get your NOID My U.S rept told me to not try to keep it at the embassy but to let it go back to the US. After getting back to the U.S, then they have to write a long letter stating their decision and then I can do the rebuttal for it. How much to hire an attorney and what will happen after hiring them? What is the average wait time until I get to Rebut?	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 14:44:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	they are sending the case back and don't know when we're going to receive them. I'M IN SHOCK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. PLEASE HELPPP!!!	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 11:22:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	EVERYONE! SAD NEWS. OUR VISA HAS BEEN DENIED. I'M IN PAIN RIGHT NOW AND THIS INFORMATION IS BEING GIVEN BY MY U.S REPRESENTATIVE.	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 11:07:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	wow, that's really good for Ly. I guess I would have to support of his way of thinking. I'm gonna call him tomorrow to check up on the guy. Oh yeah, did anyone of you guys happened to still have the phone numbers or at least the area code of which the consulate use? I hate those phone call from telemarketers so I usually don't pick up my phone. Please let me know so I can look out for it. I guess I will be picking up all phone calls from now on. Thanks in advance.	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-27 04:48:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	Why is is A.P thing taking soooo longggg. I don't know what to plan for our future, for our next family meet, for our life living together. This AP is getting in the way of everything. I can't imagine getting a white slip and have to live like this. I'm going crazy can u tell?	Huong and Phung	Male	Vietnam (no flag)	2009-10-26 21:08:00
Vietnam	HCMC Interview roll call	QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 30 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 30 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (toantien @ Oct 30 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm just worried that we might got denied and they haven't inform us. Thats what making me go nuts. I want to come back before they make any decision and submit more evidence...If we got denied it better be a really good reason. I can't imagine what the reason would be...It's giving me the chills. Everyone after me has gotten a decision, but not us yet....That's what's really driving me crazy. Good luck and try to relax, If you show up and still no word it might be a good thing. We are praying for you. Jerome It's really hard to relax, I feel like i'm playing russian roulette. Just don't know what's coming.... Hello all Oh men ,what is going you guy,why faiied alot Hey toan give a call brother I think you was ok trust I will give you some advice before you are going HCMC John hey Toan I think you will be get it ,they was investigate you now,that why it was took too long in your case hope you may man you and your wife will be united soon John Thanks john, I'm going in on the 5th to check on my status and submit more evidence. I hope everything ok so we can fly back together, I dont wnat to wait no longer.......	johncali9	Male	Vietnam	2009-10-30 12:47:00