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Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP




Those of us currently in AP at HCMC:

Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline

MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Timeline

JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa
First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA

ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa
First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa
First blue requesting Timeline

Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa
First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline



Those who are out of AP w/ results:

Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED





jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-10-17 22:35:00
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QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 16 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 15 2009, 05:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP




Those of us currently in AP at HCMC:

Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline

MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa
First blue requesting Timeline

JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa
First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA

ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa
First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa
First blue requesting Timeline

Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa
First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline



Those who are out of AP w/ results:

Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED




jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:17:00
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QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 17 2009, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And then I forgot to add... Like all those government agency it just takes time for the results we want.


Good Luck


I know and that is why I say I will play it by ear when I get there. I want to see how they are reacting as I get a little more pushy, but not to pushy. If they seem on edge then I will just ask questions and if I think i can push it a bit I will.
jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:15:00
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QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 17 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for your help. Now I understand that evidence of the bonafide relationship should be submitted at the time of the interview. I have read some other posters say that when they tried to submit evidence at the time of the interview such as time lines and list of relatives in the US, the CO refused to accept those. Basically, how can HCMC tell people to bring evidence to the interview if the CO just refuses to accept some of it anyways?

<CARRICK>


QUOTE (b_weeks @ Oct 16 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
evidence of Bona Fide relationship should be submitted at the time of INTERVIEW. Not before.

The only requirement for the submission of the I-129F is that you have met in person in the past 2 years.




Because HCMC does not play by the rules, when i go in Tuesday I am going to ask the Co about it as well. I know I have not been in AP for 90 days yet but quite frankly I do not care. I pay my taxes which helps pay their salary, they are supposed to do their job, and I am going to ask why they can give a blue for specific reasons when the person has that information right there with them, and also that if they do not look at all the evidence presented, why can they request more time to process??? They had her there and more info to make a decision yet they did not make it. BS in my mind, if they do not look at all the evidence, then they should have given pink. But Tuesday I will play it by ear and see what the supervisor has to say.
jeromebinhMaleVietnam2009-10-17 19:33:00
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I don't know if I mentioned it or not, but my husband told me the "cong an phuong" contacted the "area gossip" (haha) to ask if she knew of our marriage/my presence...she said "No" because she wasn't aware, but after we got her call asking about it, we went to her house immediately!! I sat on my husband's motorbike as he ran in--I didn't run in and meet her, but I did see her laughing(?) inside as my husband pointed to me... tongue.gif
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-19 21:04:00
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VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC:
  • Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline
  • MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US
  • ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
VJ Members who made it out of AP & results:
  • Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied
    K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED
    CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED


Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).

I have a copy of the Blue AP slip, Pink Approval Slip, and US Visa issued by HCMC Consulate under "My Photos"
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-19 18:44:00
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I just posted a picture of the visa under my photos if anyone would like a look--along with the Blue AP Slip and the Pink Approval Slip...
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-19 17:10:00
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QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 19 2009, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We are talking about the consulate in VIETNAM right......... whistling.gif

Yes we're talking about the consulate in Vietnam.

...it may be Vietnam, but it's still the US Embassy/Consulate.
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-19 09:21:00
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Maybe this is in the pre-testing phases still...I mean, look at all the improvements with online accessibility to USCIS and NVC websies... smile.gif
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-19 00:09:00
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VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC:
  • Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline
  • MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US
  • ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
VJ Members who made it out of AP & results:
  • Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied
    K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED
    CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED

Sample AP Blue Slip:
http://www.visajourn...cture1_copy.jpg

Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 22:26:00
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QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 16 2009, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JimVaPhuong @ Oct 16 2009, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 16 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On another note regarding what's going on with the new AP thread and everything -- everyone is entitled to post and no one controls the thread (except for maybe mods...). If anyone wanted to see change, they could have just as easily made it and I'm sure no one would have cared either way...I change it all the time and just keep reposting the information to "bump" the topic. Just a note...


On that note, is it not possible for the mods to enable post editing? Most forum software allows a poster to edit their own posts. It would be enormously helpful in "tracking" threads like this one if the OP could keep the first post updated with the most recent information. If someone's status had changed, they could also link to the post that announced it. This would allow the first post to serve as current status AND as an index for the rest of the thread. Any mods listening? whistling.gif

The ability to keep info current and updated has been a problem for a long time here on VJ. The one thing that has not been done in this forum that is done elsewhere on VJ, and I can do later today, is include directions at the bottom of the post to rewrite/edit and repost. The edit feature has a timeout associated with it now.
I think Roger made a great point the other day about using the wiki feature more than has been done in the past. We could likely have a great HCMC reference area there if we used it more. The issue mentioned yesterday about needing an area to explain why someone got a blue would likely be best addressed in wiki. We just need to use it more and include many references to it in our forums or signatures.


GEESH...I'm having a restless night and I thought I'd attempt to create a WIKI just for this, but no luck!!! It is SOOOO COMPLICATED to create a new wiki thread I just gave up!! tongue.gif GRRR...maybe I'm just tired and need to give it a rest...I'll try again tomorrow I guess! smile.gif
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 01:49:00
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VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC:
  • Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline
  • MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US
  • ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
  • Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

VJ Members who made it out of AP & results:
  • Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied
    K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED kicking.gif
    CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
  • FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED kicking.gif

Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).

Sample AP Blue Slip:
http://www.visajourn...cture1_copy.jpg
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 00:24:00
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QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 17 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Linda's took 91 days and that included the CO going to Thailand so his wife could have a baby.... so one never knows what could slow things down...


yea...and I still think that was TMI from the consulate guy...unless he was lying to me and he was actually the CO...hahaha...

Honestly, what I felt that slowed down the case was those questions that the CO asked me when I did come in regarding my housemate and my job... That or the CO guy with the pregnant wife in Thailand just decided not to come back and my case was just sitting on his dusty, recently vacated desk... tongue.gif

Edited by lindal24, 18 October 2009 - 12:22 AM.

lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 00:22:00
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QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 17 2009, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did anyone watch "the Proposal" yet? It's such a good movie and it's about fraud imigration but ended up as a true love.

I believe love can be found anywhere. There were people knowing each other for years and never get married and there were people that knows each other for couple of months and get married. Lucky for those who have their S.O next to them and they should treasure it. For now, those of us in A.P can just hoping for the same chance.


I saw that movie like 6 times!! Once w/ my husband in DaNang...I told him the story of the movie the first time I saw it because I just LOVED it and Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds!! It's an awesome movie!!! smile.gif

Love is found anywhere--and everywhere! Just be patient...your pink will come eventually!! If all else, there's always the option of relocating back to VN. I don't think that alot of people realize that this is also an option--Ralph and Hanh made it a reality, and they are doing great...it's just another alternative for those who feel the strain that distance put between them and their loved one(s)...HANG IN THERE!!! smile.gif
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 00:17:00
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QUOTE (fred n Dao Honey @ Oct 17 2009, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 17 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am still amazed that they had you wait so long....

What can I say they were Additionally Processing us. I think it had a lot to do with the VN translator and our lack of knowledge of the process. We will never know the entire reason. Maybe they lost the file for a while.



As you mentioned the VN translator, I just have to bring it up too...

...my husband thought that they were "lao cao" too...in the sense that they are not the COs but rather an employee working as a translator. I brought up the conspiracy theory that they were there to translate, but often times might just transfer wrong or be telling the American CO things that they didn't say!! It happens...especially if the SO doesn't know alot of english to tell the difference!!
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 00:11:00
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Eh, it's cool... I understand your frustration, and I'm glad that you were successful in your journey as much as I am that mine is also complete! smile.gif

When I said "it's not personal" what I was referring to was that the CO doesn't know you and isn't picking on just you...it's their job to question whether petitions are allowed or denied based on the facts and evidence they have in front of them. I don't feel it to be very fair to deny someone based on initial filings as newer relationships just don't have the support that reflects their love as much a matured relationships. I would hope that if a CO felt that there was a questionable case, they would call/contact the petitioner or beneficiary to ask questions or request an interview instead of just denying flat out (as ScottThuy stated above as well...). But time and resources don't allow this, and so COs can only do so much.
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-18 00:09:00
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QUOTE (fred n Dao Honey @ Oct 17 2009, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I submited more evidence of relationship in May. It wasn't anything big. ticket stubs,pictures. I don't know if it changed the AP wait time but, I wanted to be sure they had the option not to send it back to USA. I read what you have here and below.

All was copied from HCMC consulate website

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Section 221(g) of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act states that visa applications lacking required documents must be denied until such time as those documents are submitted and found to be sufficient. If, for any reason, the applicant is not eligible for a visa at the time of the interview, the applicant will receive an explanation in writing and a request for the specific documents still required, if any.

Applicants refused under Section 221(g) who are specifically requested to submit more documents may submit the additional information either via registered mail or in person at the Consulate between 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, except holidays. The applicant should include the blue or green refusal sheet asking for additional information.
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Don't give them the blue paper! it is your pass to get inside!!! "lacking Required documents must be denied" , "May submit additional Information"

Good luck,
Fred


Maybe they're referring to specifically the 1st blue slip...they probably want to know what they asked for in the first place! hahaha...
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:21:00
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QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 17 2009, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
come to think of it... Like all government organizations like the IRS and social security office we just have to take what they give us. I remember being frustrated whenever I had to deal with the government on my taxes or even to dispute something at the driver's license office. I feels the consulate is going to treat us like the other government agencies in the US where they are paid with US tax payers money.



I think this is a little different since this is more subjective than objective. The IRS and SSN offices are supposed to follow rules to the "T" but the consulatar officers, not so much...
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:19:00
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I would not approach it in this manner, but your actions are your own and no one else s...Just be careful about what you say and how you say it because they will determine you guys' destinies...


lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:16:00
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I have to disagree w/ you Fred. I do believe that they are doing additional processing, and I am glad that they are. Yes, it affects many of us, but think about all the cases that are fraudulent. We see alot of cases get by, but never hear of those that don't.

This additional time should not affect our relationship with our loved ones, they should make it stronger. People entering into relationship with other individuals from different countries are and should be aware of the commitment they are entering. People in AP need to realize that it isn't personal, there are just things on paper that seem out of place. Those people who entered into fraudulent engagements/marriages did the right things and covered all their bases--they fooled the system--but that will catch up with them sooner than later!

After I was placed into AP, I went and visited the embassy to find out the status of our case. The woman at the window said that our case is pending and left it at that. I was the one that initiated wanting to speak with the CO in charge of our case. If I hadn't asked, I probably would still be in AP. The reason I said this is because when I did come back to speak to the CO, he did ask me to clarify some things for him. Call that additional processing or investigating, I'm glad that my case was picked. It just goes to prove that the COs are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities.

To all those that are in AP or find themselves in AP, hang in there. Be patient, be persistent! Goodluck and all the best!!
lindal24FemaleVietnam2009-10-17 20:12:00
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Haha "area gossip"-- bà tám right? That's kinda stupid they would consult the area gossip like that....
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 21:09:00
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QUOTE (Kevin&Loan @ Oct 19 2009, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Anh JohnCali: now the investigation part is over with. I really hope you will get that PINK soon. Good luck to you.
@Dai_TX: Do you live in Houston? If you do, perhaps we can get togther for some Pho if you like ...



I do live in Houston, but right now I am in Vietnam with my wife working until Dec. 2nd... Maybe we can go whenever I come back... What part of town are you in?
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 08:56:00
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QUOTE (lindal24 @ Oct 19 2009, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe this is in the pre-testing phases still...I mean, look at all the improvements with online accessibility to USCIS and NVC websies... smile.gif


We are talking about the consulate in VIETNAM right......... whistling.gif
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 02:21:00
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That's really good for you and Trinh Ly, You know they are really really on your case and you can see some good news soon... Good Luck Mr. John.
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-18 22:43:00
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QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 18 2009, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 18 2009, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is an investigation, that is part of the processing of the application... I think thats why they call it AP rather than an investigation... AP can cover any time delay in processing that is not normal.

It is personal for all of us... I get pissed off half of the time when I call NVC to check the staus of our case and they say the same scripted statement every time (you are in AP and there is no timeframe for this process).. Some care and you can hear it, but its not personal to them or the ones actually handling the case.. its just a job and they are showing up at work each day and doing what we pay them to do...

It just so happens that those that end up in AP have some red flag associated with the case that causes them to not be able to sign off on it withoud further investigation... they could be looking at phone records.... calling relatives.... looking on Facebook... we never know what they are doing in this investigation... or the decision process that takes place when they are done "investigating" but it all is additional time and processing that they otherwise would not have had to do if we had not had the red flags...

I found out why I got pulled into AP @ NVC based on Gary's discussions with the VSC director last week... Having a security clearance is grounds enough for them to want to know who we are sleeping with and how it may affect our clearances so most of us in NVC AP have government clearances.. not all.... Because of my role with institutions that are on military bases around the world, the DoD wanted us to have certain clearance levels so there would be no issues if something came up during a lecture regarding technology. Its ridiculous, but I actually am glad that they are doing something to keep our bases safe...

We all know that there are still many people in our government that consider us as "sleeping with the enemy".... That may be the guy that saw my file and said OMG what is he up to?

Hello all ,(Not Jeromebinh)
The girl she was call me last week ,today 8pm sunday california time ,she was call TRinh ly ask the same question ,she was asking me,i wuold like let you guy in VJ know (not Jeromebinh)
she call from HCMC Good luck Trinh Ly
Johncali

Sorry Anh John but me Không hi?u. It seems like it would be some good info though.

Edited by Dai_Tx, 18 October 2009 - 10:29 PM.

Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-18 22:28:00
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QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 18 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jerome,

You made an interesting point when you said that the CO gives a blue slip requesting evidence that you already have available for the CO to see that same day at the interview. What I still do not understand is how other people have gotten the CO to actually look at the evidence and get a pink slip. Those that got the pink slip did something different then those who got the blue slip. There just has to be something that the blue slip people are missing. I looked at the list of people that got blue slips or are in AP and it looks like the common denominator is the time line. Just about everybody has listed the time line as a reason for the blue. I also see list of relatives for the beneficiary and evidence of bonafide relationship....which brings me back to the evidence for the interview date issue. There has to be a link from the evidence submitted with the I-129F to the evidence that needs to be presented on the interview date. That "link" should force the CO to look at the evidence. I don't know. Im just trying to figure all this out before I file my petition I guess. Am I thinking wrong? Somebody please shed some light on this.

<CARRICK>




QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 18 2009, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Huong and Phung @ Oct 18 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jerome,
I know that it's frustrating getting into the Consulate and get the same generic answer but don't get too pushy. I know you have your way of doing it but it's best for us to present ourselves professionally. I was there talking to them and they actually takes note of what you said. Say something truthful and touching, you'll see they have feeling too. Don't get too agressive and it might turn on you.
Good luck Jerome and Binh.



I thank you for your opinion, we have decided to just email them. I was never going to get pushy, or at least never intended to, I just wanted to feel out the waters and ask some straight forward questions, like if they are supposed to be looking for evidence of a bonafide relationship why did they not even look at 300 plus pages that we had, and also why they did not want to look at the time line that we had, and the evidence of where my ex wife currently lives?, and ask why they would have refused to look at it then give us a blue requesting the same information, all in a polite way, but if at the time I was talking with him I sensed he was in a pissy mood I was not going to mention any of it, and just simply ask when they thought they might actually get to our case, but instead we will email them and mention these facts to them but not question why just mention that we had and still have over 300 pages of information that proves we have a ongoing relationship as well as this was my 3rd trip to HCMC to be with her. But thanks for all you advice. Jerome and Binh



It also depends on the CO that you get. Some of them don't require to much evidence and will give you pink but some require much more to get pink. For my wife's interview our CO only asked about 6 or 7 question, looked at about 10 pictures and flipped through a few of our paperwork and gave us the pink. My wife was very confident during her interview which she thought was very key.

Good Luck.

Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-18 16:49:00
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And then I forgot to add... Like all those government agency it just takes time for the results we want.


Good Luck
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-17 20:10:00
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come to think of it... Like all government organizations like the IRS and social security office we just have to take what they give us. I remember being frustrated whenever I had to deal with the government on my taxes or even to dispute something at the driver's license office. I feels the consulate is going to treat us like the other government agencies in the US where they are paid with US tax payers money.
Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-17 20:03:00
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QUOTE (jeromebinh @ Oct 17 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (WeatherEmperor @ Oct 17 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for your help. Now I understand that evidence of the bonafide relationship should be submitted at the time of the interview. I have read some other posters say that when they tried to submit evidence at the time of the interview such as time lines and list of relatives in the US, the CO refused to accept those. Basically, how can HCMC tell people to bring evidence to the interview if the CO just refuses to accept some of it anyways?

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QUOTE (b_weeks @ Oct 16 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
evidence of Bona Fide relationship should be submitted at the time of INTERVIEW. Not before.

The only requirement for the submission of the I-129F is that you have met in person in the past 2 years.




Because HCMC does not play by the rules, when i go in Tuesday I am going to ask the Co about it as well. I know I have not been in AP for 90 days yet but quite frankly I do not care. I pay my taxes which helps pay their salary, they are supposed to do their job, and I am going to ask why they can give a blue for specific reasons when the person has that information right there with them, and also that if they do not look at all the evidence presented, why can they request more time to process??? They had her there and more info to make a decision yet they did not make it. BS in my mind, if they do not look at all the evidence, then they should have given pink. But Tuesday I will play it by ear and see what the supervisor has to say.


I am pretty sure it's not the 1st time they heard that we are all tax payers and that we pay their salary. That's not how I would do it but good luck in your endeavors.

Edited by Dai_Tx, 17 October 2009 - 07:51 PM.

Dai.MaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-17 19:49:00
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QUOTE (Kevin&Loan @ Oct 19 2009, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Well Scott,
how come Ly is the 4th person you've heard about this and NOBODY willing to come forward to post the questions? Wonder if they said to keep it private or something? Questions being ask by the C.O and everyone share it but the questions on the mystery phone call, they want to keep it private? heheh comon comon, i want to know. heheheh JK. it's better to be prepare than being overconfident.


I have posted not once, but many times in the past about the investigation and its details and no one seemed to even care to comment.

Wow. I guess people wont freakout until it happens to them right. heheheh Thanks for all of the questions. I guess it doesn't apply to me cuz I don't have an ex-wife or nothing like that so I guess something else going to be ask.
Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 23:00:00
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Well Scott,
how come Ly is the 4th person you've heard about this and NOBODY willing to come forward to post the questions? Wonder if they said to keep it private or something? Questions being ask by the C.O and everyone share it but the questions on the mystery phone call, they want to keep it private? heheh comon comon, i want to know. heheheh JK. it's better to be prepare than being overconfident.
Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 21:42:00
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Hey everyone,
I want to share something to everybody that Anh John ask me to share.
It was a phone call that he received and he believe that it's from the Consulate. This same person (lady) called Ly Trinh and questioning about his ex-wife and his conditions. They also INVESTIGATE at the village that their Wives live in. Base on informations from John and Ly, they actually went to their "cong an phuong" to ask about it. I was happy to hear that their petitions are being work on and I'm not so far from them either. Ly Trinh told me to get ready and tell my wife not to worry too much. I'm not worry but glad that they would call me.
IS CALLING SOMEONE AND SAYING YOU'RE SOMEONE ELSE ASKING ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR WIFE ILLEGAL? I don't really care at this point but if it's something illegal, I want to be clear about it.
Thanks for your help guys. Legal or Not, I don't care. CALL ME ANYTIME, 24hr/day, 7days/week, 30+days/month, 12months/year.
hahhah U GET WHAT I MEAN.
Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-19 20:04:00
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Wow Lindal24, you're on a roll here. hahah It's pretty informative though. About the movie, I think he needs to understand to fully know what the movie is about. You see how she is all work work work but on the other hand she sings "to the windowwww, to the wallll, 'til the sweat drop down my b....."" hahah Those who could understand this situation are only those who live here long enough to know that it's funny. If you live in a different culture, I would say watching this movie is just another boring nonsense. heheheh I love the part where she dance with his grandma in the woods. PRICELESS!
Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-18 04:34:00
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Jerome,
I know that it's frustrating getting into the Consulate and get the same generic answer but don't get too pushy. I know you have your way of doing it but it's best for us to present ourselves professionally. I was there talking to them and they actually takes note of what you said. Say something truthful and touching, you'll see they have feeling too. Don't get too agressive and it might turn on you.
Good luck Jerome and Binh.

Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-17 23:47:00
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All these thinking about A.P makes me want to cry. It's so hard for us living here in the States with this economy and now without our S.O? Do they know the feeling of being lonely? Wow, does it sounds like a song? Did anyone watch "the Proposal" yet? It's such a good movie and it's about fraud imigration but ended up as a true love. I believe love can be found anywhere. There were people knowing each other for years and never get married and there were people that knows each other for couple of months and get married. Lucky for those who have their S.O next to them and they should treasure it. For now, those of us in A.P can just hoping for the same chance.
Huong and PhungMaleVietnam (no flag)2009-10-17 23:39:00
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QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
who better to ask?.... rofl.gif


Anh scott
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QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 20 2009, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
who better to ask?.... rofl.gif

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Anh scott
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johncali9MaleVietnam2009-10-20 20:20:00
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QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 19 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The few questions I remember from the posts and phone call reports:
Where does she/ex live?
When did you divorce?
Why?
When did you marry the beneficiary? (trick question since it was a fiance / K-1)
They have called the Ex's, Relatives and Petitioners.. and now they are checking with the local gossip..
I guess the trick is to make sure everyone knows everything in case they get the call.

They also asked the routine questions about the current relationship... when start , how etc...
The thing that is odd is that they clearly presented themself as someone other than the CO and asked questions that only a CO would ask...

With the way that VN culture treats a wedding or engagement, The fact that they called on the gossip or called relatives is not a bad thing... If the neighbors in a VN village don't know about an engagement, then it likely is a sham.... since everyone knows who is engaged in my fiance's village and to whom....

Nobody said anything about being private since it was under the premice that it was someone else calling.. I posted about this topic before... no secret.. nothing that new...

Hello Scott and cac anh ca chi
The first thing i would like to say that make sure jeromebinh understand (he was debate a lot) hard men of the USA (please do not debate ) SHUT THE PIPE HOLLE DO NOT OPEN,THANNK'S
okay here you go i would like to tell any one know ,(not try to scare the people) The Co was call me and investigate my family before one day after that i did call tell scott(FL) know that
after that scott knew any thing ,scott(FL) was nice guy he was try to help ,help lot people in Vj, i personal to thank you scott(FL) and all my friend
John
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QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 18 2009, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's really good for you and Trinh Ly, You know they are really really on your case and you can see some good news soon... Good Luck Mr. John.

Hello Dai_tx
Thank you so much
Johncali9
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QUOTE (Dai_Tx @ Oct 18 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (johncali9 @ Oct 18 2009, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It is an investigation, that is part of the processing of the application... I think thats why they call it AP rather than an investigation... AP can cover any time delay in processing that is not normal.

It is personal for all of us... I get pissed off half of the time when I call NVC to check the staus of our case and they say the same scripted statement every time (you are in AP and there is no timeframe for this process).. Some care and you can hear it, but its not personal to them or the ones actually handling the case.. its just a job and they are showing up at work each day and doing what we pay them to do...

It just so happens that those that end up in AP have some red flag associated with the case that causes them to not be able to sign off on it withoud further investigation... they could be looking at phone records.... calling relatives.... looking on Facebook... we never know what they are doing in this investigation... or the decision process that takes place when they are done "investigating" but it all is additional time and processing that they otherwise would not have had to do if we had not had the red flags...

I found out why I got pulled into AP @ NVC based on Gary's discussions with the VSC director last week... Having a security clearance is grounds enough for them to want to know who we are sleeping with and how it may affect our clearances so most of us in NVC AP have government clearances.. not all.... Because of my role with institutions that are on military bases around the world, the DoD wanted us to have certain clearance levels so there would be no issues if something came up during a lecture regarding technology. Its ridiculous, but I actually am glad that they are doing something to keep our bases safe...

We all know that there are still many people in our government that consider us as "sleeping with the enemy".... That may be the guy that saw my file and said OMG what is he up to?

Hello all ,(Not Jeromebinh)
The girl she was call me last week ,today 8pm sunday california time ,she was call TRinh ly ask the same question ,she was asking me,i wuold like let you guy in VJ know (not Jeromebinh)
she call from HCMC Good luck Trinh Ly
Johncali

Sorry Anh John but me Không hi?u. It seems like it would be some good info though.

Hello Dai _tx
last week girl from HCMC call me investigate on me ask me about my ex_wife ,she just call TRinh Ly ask same question ,trinh ly was call me and let me know
JOhn
johncali9MaleVietnam2009-10-18 22:33:00
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QUOTE (ScottThuy @ Oct 18 2009, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is an investigation, that is part of the processing of the application... I think thats why they call it AP rather than an investigation... AP can cover any time delay in processing that is not normal.

It is personal for all of us... I get pissed off half of the time when I call NVC to check the staus of our case and they say the same scripted statement every time (you are in AP and there is no timeframe for this process).. Some care and you can hear it, but its not personal to them or the ones actually handling the case.. its just a job and they are showing up at work each day and doing what we pay them to do...

It just so happens that those that end up in AP have some red flag associated with the case that causes them to not be able to sign off on it withoud further investigation... they could be looking at phone records.... calling relatives.... looking on Facebook... we never know what they are doing in this investigation... or the decision process that takes place when they are done "investigating" but it all is additional time and processing that they otherwise would not have had to do if we had not had the red flags...

I found out why I got pulled into AP @ NVC based on Gary's discussions with the VSC director last week... Having a security clearance is grounds enough for them to want to know who we are sleeping with and how it may affect our clearances so most of us in NVC AP have government clearances.. not all.... Because of my role with institutions that are on military bases around the world, the DoD wanted us to have certain clearance levels so there would be no issues if something came up during a lecture regarding technology. Its ridiculous, but I actually am glad that they are doing something to keep our bases safe...

We all know that there are still many people in our government that consider us as "sleeping with the enemy".... That may be the guy that saw my file and said OMG what is he up to?

Hello all ,(Not Jeromebinh)
The girl she was call me last week ,today 8pm sunday california time ,she was call TRinh ly ask the same question ,she was asking me,i wuold like let you guy in VJ know (not Jeromebinh)
she call from HCMC Good luck Trinh Ly
Johncali
johncali9MaleVietnam2009-10-18 22:23:00