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IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

  When we went down the path of K1 the second time we simply had a letter that stated that we were exempt from the requirement because if was the same couple and the law is about different couples.  


NigeriaorBustNot TellingNigeria2014-08-09 18:57:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

  There is a rule about a waiver for multiple filings.  It is meant to help protect the unwary foreign fiancé from social idiots that travel, marry and dump.  Because you are filing for the same person the law makes no sense and your wording for the waiver can point to that.  That the waiver is so they can inform the fiancé that you have a history.  But the woman doesn't need to be informed she is your history.    http://www.ilw.com/a...0206-ellis.shtm  a good read on the subject


Edited by NigeriaorBust, 07 August 2014 - 09:44 PM.

NigeriaorBustNot TellingNigeria2014-08-07 21:40:00
IMBRA Special TopicsNOID proofs
This is a recreation of a post by RS2 in another topic. It seems to be a good reference for addressing NOID proofs.


Here are the List of Evidences that we sent for our NOID:

1) A letter from my fiance, describing his relationship with me, and his crime a few years ago
2) A certified copy of his court records
3) A certified records indicating his successful completion of counseling or rehabilitation programs
4) Evidence that requested and was approved to get release from his probation
5) Police letter showing Level One Offender (Low Risk)
6) A copy of 24 week substance abuse program for alcohol abstinence
7) Updated Risk Evaluation Report(2006/2010)
8) Polygraph test
9) Evidence demonstrating intervening good and exemplary service to the community(we sent voting registration,MBA Certificate,Donations to Veterans)10)Letters of support from his parents and other family members (parents & sister)
11)Letters of support from my parents and brother that they know about his conviction and they fully support our marriage
12)A letter from me that i am aware of his conviction and expressing my feelings for him
13)Letter recommendation from his friends
14)Letter recommendation from his ex-boss
15)A copy of Engagement Ring receipt
16)A copy of his 2nd passport stamped that he visited me twice( w/ adtt'l photos)
Brad and VikaMaleUkraine2010-11-12 17:20:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

I think they are asking for a letter explaining about the first K-1 you filed

 

 

sara


sara.....FemaleEgypt2014-08-09 10:49:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

Got my IMBRA RFE in the mail today, and already sent it back to Vermont.
Here is a scan of the RFE



Thank is so helpful to see what it looks like. Looks simple enough , very much like the new section on the newest version of the 129F petiton. Good luck! You are on your way!
mybackpagesFemaleMorocco2006-06-21 21:19:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

I thought by statute, appealing the decision on an AWA waiver request was not even an option. 

 

Thanks, I did search the previous posts.  This is dealing with AWA and an appeal is not likely.  Basically in order to win an appeal and get your petition approved, you need to prove that either 1) you were not convicted of any specified crimes against a minor, and/or 2) you pose NO risk at all to the beneficiary.

 

If you have not been convicted in the past, it should be fairly easy to submit evidence disputing the fact.  However, I don't think that is your situation.  Your only option left would be submitting evidence to prove you are NO risk to your fiancé.  There is a huge difference between LOW risk and NO risk.  You have to prove that you pose NO risk, which that in itself could be very difficult to prove.

 

Here is a case where an AWA case appeal was not successful:  http://www.uscis.gov...013_01D6101.pdf

 

Here is an excerpt:

"The AAO does not dispute the expertise of the mental health professionals who have written letters on the petitioner's behalf and provided their opinions on his risk of reoffending. Their letters and the other relevant evidence in the record indicate that the petitioner has undergone years of therapy, taken substantial steps to rehabilitate and presents a low risk of reoffending. However, the statute requires the petitioner to establish that he poses "no risk" to the beneficiary..."

 

 

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-09-18 11:26:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

 

What was the reason for the denial?

 

A search of the OP's posts would reveal that. He may not want to openly say though.


Edited by Caryh, 18 September 2014 - 08:58 AM.

CaryhMalePhilippines2014-09-18 08:57:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

The conventional wisdom is appealing the decision takes much longer and costs more than re-applying. You just need to over come the reason they denied you in the first place. Also an appeal can only succeed if you can prove the denial was improperly given. With you saying they'll just deny again if you re-apply, I have a feeling you know there is something wrong you didn't overcome in the original petition. 

 


CaryhMalePhilippines2014-09-18 08:11:00
IMBRA Special TopicsDoes the IMBRA affect us?
Hello everyone...



Talking with a few people from VJ...the IMBRA law was sorta introduced to me...but I am not quite sure how it works...

My question: My fiancee and I met online with one of those matromonial advertiment sites. We didnt pay any fees ( someone asked me this before, but I am not sure why) so I am wondering as we will be filing a k1 visa ...does the IMBRA law affect us? And if so...how? What can we except?



I thank you all for any replies and input...



Peace and Blessings... (F)
HeniaFemaleAlgeria2006-07-31 01:51:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision
AWA applies equally to an I-129F and an I-130 I believe, so marrying and then filing an I-130 would not solve the problem.

Actions have consequences, and this would seem to be one of them.

Edited by Hypnos, 19 September 2014 - 05:16 AM.



HypnosMaleUnited Kingdom2014-09-19 05:16:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan


Thank you for sharing that. :)


Hi I am new to visa journey and logged on just to see how long it was taking others to have their k1 visas processed. I saw that yours is being processed in VT like mine.
My application was initially approved for my fiance from Australia in April. The it was recalled because of the new info they needed for Imbra. I got my RFE and returned it to VT, they noted they recieved it on June 17th.
I was wondering if you could tell me when they said they recieved yours and how long you have been waiting for yours to be approved?
Thanks!


It takes an average time of 15 days. But this can really vary. Some have taken 6 days, others more than 20.
MewFemaleBrazil2006-07-30 16:45:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
deleted.

wrong topic. D'oh.

Edited by Mew, 05 July 2006 - 04:30 PM.

MewFemaleBrazil2006-07-05 16:29:00
IMBRA Special TopicsVAWA informations
Considering what you said I don't think you have a Vawa case at all .Not introducing you to her family and friends is not abuse ,not filing AOS is not abuse. You have what Uscis calls "an unpleasant relationship "' . You didn't describe here any circumstance of extreme cruelty . Extreme cruelty is a pattern of abuse that caused you to live in despair, changed who you are, and due the abuse you developed major depression and or post traumatic disorder. Not introducing you to her friends/family does not cause major depression , since you lived your entire life without her friends and family , not sponsoring you does not cause depression, since you lived your entire life without being a resident permanent.

Financial abuse is not what you described . You have a relationship that is not working, abuse is completely different . I handled over 6.000 Vawa cases,and I assure that what you described is not extreme cruelty .

Edited by sandranj, 06 October 2014 - 05:41 AM.



sandranjFemaleBrazil2014-10-06 05:37:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
An online dating site, no matter where in the world it originates, is NOT a marriage broker. There are many marriage brokers who, for a large fee, make all the arrangements overseas for weddings between people who barely know each other. IMBRA is intended to reduce the number of known sexual predators and other dangerous criminals who bring unfamiliar brides to the U.S. and then abuse them, involve them in criminal activity, etc. etc. There is no evidence yet that it is making any difference in this kind of trafficking.
Old DominionMaleZambia2008-11-27 15:25:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

I don't know of that would apply to someone who falls under AWA,

Chemical castration arguments do not hold much muster because the

few who opted for that most re-offended with an object or......... Its in the

brain


JawareeMale02014-09-18 21:49:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
If it is set up for members of your religion it is exempt from IMBRA
TurboguyMaleRussia2007-03-10 09:07:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWhat's up with Phillipines?

This:

http://www.uscis.gov...typhoon-victims


MerrytoothFemaleSingapore2014-10-15 16:04:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
Thanks for the copy of the RFE. That was really helpful. I have a question and I'm hoping that someone out there has an answer. I met my SO online on a site set up specifically for members of my religion. You CAN sign up for the service if you are outside the U.S., but the bulk of the members are from the U.S. Maybe I should check yes to IMBRA just to be safe? I'm not sure.
Queen JennFemaleNigeria2007-02-28 12:09:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
Plus.... (I am sorry I am still trying to understand this .. it makes no sense) How can you back date? In my work industry we have constant regulations that pop out of the wood work and our customers may not like them but the requirements are always current or forward.. we don't go and fine customers for stuff they did 2 months ago .. that just makes no sense.
vartanNot TellingTaiwan2006-06-23 16:15:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
Thanks to whomever posted the RFE but seriously.... SERIOUSLY... We are speaking about our government here.. They don't have records of whether or not we committed these types of crimes???? Secondly ... didn't they require us on the form to state how we met? I met my fiance at work .. while she was here on a student visa in the US...... It's kinda silly if you ask me to ask us these questions again. I guess I just will never understand...
vartanNot TellingTaiwan2006-06-23 09:15:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
I assume on question 2 and 3 if you haven't had any convictions or abuse you just don't check anything right? :unsure:
jen&darcyNot TellingCanada2006-06-22 09:56:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

I spoke with a nice person at USCIS who told me about the current status of the "recalled applications" to the Vermont Service Center.

The "files" were recalled along with the "Petitions" from the foreign embassy. My petition was still on its way back to square one so I could be sent my IMBRA addition (ironic considering we met in USA and IMBRA is applied to all K-1's now).

So now she tells me that once my file and petition are together in the office I will get my RFE and my case along with everyone else affected will be expedited. She said the RFE's sent out due to IMBRA will be mailed in bulk from the Vermont Service Center.
How can that be true if I am hearing that other people using the Vermont Service Center have already got their RFE's?

She said my case was of course recalled like everyone else's due to IMBRA, but I am hearing that other people have already gotten their RFE.

Let me if anyone is along the lines of my timeline and has heard back from the VSC.

Thanks


Maybe she meant "bulk of day" ? :lol:
I think everyone who's gotten an IMBRA related RFE have been those whose petitions have not been approved yet (easier to catch maybe?). I don't know if anyone with a NOA2 has. I'm not certain though.
seldiFemaleArgentina2006-06-27 12:16:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
I wish they would give examples of what they considered international marriage brokers. According to the RFE ("any blah blah blah blah that charges fees"), it's basically any paid services.

I met my fiance in 1998 at a friend's party, but we eventually lost touch. We ran into each other in 2005 on a FREE dating/friendship website. So since the site is free, and since we technically didn't meet through it, than it doesn't apply to me. I hope I'm right :unsure:
seldiFemaleArgentina2006-06-22 07:28:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

I'm in Algeria until mid-July, I wonder what I can do... I dont have the money to send it round trip with DHL ($160) for a signature :crying:


Can the form be faxed to you? That would save 1/2 the time and money as you would only be mailing one way. If it has to be the original form I suppose that wouldn't work, but its a thought.

Ok, the questions begin. I met Luz through Yahoo personals. I am guessing that it isn't a MB but I would like to hear that from someone official. I had one previous petition MORE than 2 years ago. If I read that right I don't think I need the wavier. Right?


Are you asking for an opinion, or something 'official' from the government?
ChucklesMaleRussia2006-06-21 20:34:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

Thanks so much for sharing, it is truly helpful. I thought they would give more details about the marriage broker definition. It is very broad, and leaves a lot of questions.

I met my fiancee on Yahoo personals, should I check yes or no????


Yahoo personals are not considered a IMB because they welcome everyone, international or domestic to join.

That is just my opinion. Please ask others who have filled out the form (mine was done before IMBRA) and read the descriptions for yourself.
ChucklesMaleRussia2006-06-21 19:49:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

I assume on question 2 and 3 if you haven't had any convictions or abuse you just don't check anything right? :unsure:



that is my guess. I am surprised they don't have a space for saying "none" since they are so keen on that throughout the I-129F application!
hockeygalFemaleCanada2006-06-22 10:09:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

I needed a waiver on my 3rd and got it quickly and easily.  Fiances #1 and #2 dumped me over my explicit objection, so I just told USCIS what happened.  They then approved #3, my wife, who is living with me now in New York.

 


Al422MalePhilippines2014-09-11 16:55:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
Thanks so much for sharing, it is truly helpful. I thought they would give more details about the marriage broker definition. It is very broad, and leaves a lot of questions.

I met my fiancee on Yahoo personals, should I check yes or no????
Mike n HuongMaleVietnam2006-06-21 19:46:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

Thanks, I did search the previous posts.  This is dealing with AWA and an appeal is not likely.  Basically in order to win an appeal and get your petition approved, you need to prove that either 1) you were not convicted of any specified crimes against a minor, and/or 2) you pose NO risk at all to the beneficiary.

 

If you have not been convicted in the past, it should be fairly easy to submit evidence disputing the fact.  However, I don't think that is your situation.  Your only option left would be submitting evidence to prove you are NO risk to your fiancé.  There is a huge difference between LOW risk and NO risk.  You have to prove that you pose NO risk, which that in itself could be very difficult to prove.

 

Here is a case where an AWA case appeal was not successful:  http://www.uscis.gov...013_01D6101.pdf

 

Here is an excerpt:

"The AAO does not dispute the expertise of the mental health professionals who have written letters on the petitioner's behalf and provided their opinions on his risk of reoffending. Their letters and the other relevant evidence in the record indicate that the petitioner has undergone years of therapy, taken substantial steps to rehabilitate and presents a low risk of reoffending. However, the statute requires the petitioner to establish that he poses "no risk" to the beneficiary..."

 

 


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-09-18 09:48:00
IMBRA Special TopicsAppealing Denial Decision

I received a denial letter for K1 petition today in the mail. At the end it says, if I disagree with the decision, I can file I-290B to appeal but it must be filed within 33 days from the date of the notice. If it's not filed within those days, the decision is final. I was out of the country and just received the notice today dated August 27. I will need to use Attorney's help this time as I don't want to re-apply for the petition as I am sure it's a no go again. Should I wait until the decision is final or that's not possible to appeal a final decision? The time is too little for me! I am freaking out. 

 

What was the reason for the denial?


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-09-18 08:26:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

 

How did you find out you got the waiver?  Just that the petition was approved, or did you get a notice specifically about the waiver?

 

You know your waiver request is successful when you get your NOA2.


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-09-30 12:40:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

You seem to know a lot about this whole process.  You are correct...  The K1 Visa was approved by USCIS and then denied by the Embassy in Lagos, Nigeria.  However, 4 months after Lagos denied the Visa, I received an official letter from USCIS which told me the Visa was denied.  It seems in this case, the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing.  I would think that they would have done a little bit of internal investigation to figure this out.  I was reapplying with more evidence to try and prove that our relationship is bona fide.

 

The visa was denied at the embassy, and your petition was returned back to USCIS.  USCIS in turn told you that the visa was denied (in case you didn't already know it), but they themselves weren't the ones to deny it.  There is nothing here to investigate, your visa was denied the first time.

 

The point here is, this is your 2nd petition within 2 years of your first.  According to the IMBRA, you are required to have a waiver in order for your 2nd petition to be approved.  To get this waiver, you need to simply ASK for it...write a waiver request letter like the example letter I showed you in a previous post.  This is what your RFE is asking you for, and this is all that you need to provide.


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-08-09 20:09:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

Maybe I didn't do a very good job of explaining my situation.  My first K1 visa was denied.  USCIS should know this, they are the ones that denied it.  So, I refiled another k1 application.  Same woman, same relationship.  USCIS told me I need a waiver because I have multiple filings within a 2 year period.  I called them again and explained the situation to the phone agent.  He agreed that a mistake was made on their part.  I will take all my documentation into the field office on Monday and go from there.  I appreciate all the responses.

 

USCIS isn't who denies the visa, its the embassy working under the Department of State (DOS) that denies it.  From your first post (and also in this post), you say your first K-1 visa was denied.  This implies that your I-129F was approved, went to the embassy and it was denied at the embassy for lack of a bonafide relationship.  USCIS will not deny for lack of a bonafide relationship..they will deny if you do not meet the requirements for the petition.

 

So, to be clear, was your first I-129F petition denied, or was it approved and denied at the embassy?
 


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-08-09 18:48:00
IMBRA Special TopicsWaiver For Multiple Fiance Filings

Hello All,

 

   Get this.  I have been waiting a few days to get the letter in the mail from USCIS, request for evidence.  I have been wondering what they could possibly want.  I have had some practice with the fiance visa paperwork, since my first application was denied.  I have refiled, for the same woman, a second time.  The first visa was denied because we couldn't establish a bona fide relationship.  So. I front loaded the second application with a whole ream of paper which included emails, 2 trips to Nigeria, photos, boarding passes, hotel receipts.  You name it.... I sent everything.

 

  I got the letter and was shocked!  I need to apply for a waiver because I am reapplying for another visa when the first one was denied.  I don't get it.  The first aplication was approved only at approved to move from the US to Lagos, Nigeria.  Lagos, Nigeria denied it.  I later received a letter making it offical from USCIS.  It even told me I could reapply, so I did.

 

  Luckily, I called the 800 number and was told to make an appointment at the field offie which I just did.  Monday I should have some answers to this dilema.

 

Eric

 

If you had an I-129F petition approved less than 2 years ago AND this is your 2nd I-129F petition; OR this is your 3rd (or more) I-129F petition, you are required to submit a request for a waiver of the multiple filing limitations.

 

Do not bother with going to the field office, they will tell you exactly what I'm going to tell you now.  You need to write a letter requesting a waiver, and submit this letter request with your RFE.  Here is an example of the letter:

 

RE: General Waiver for multiple filers

 

To Whom It May Concern:

In compliance with the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA), I respectfully request a waiver on the filing limitations in connection with my current petition. A waiver is appropriate in my circumstance because I have no criminal history with regard to the ?specified crimes? under IMBRA.

I have one prior approved Form I-129F for [NAME], receipt number [RECEIPT #]. This petition was approved on [DATE], and resulted in...

 

Evidence to support this waiver includes:

 

[YOUR EVIDENCE]

Thank you for your kind consideration of my request.

Sincerely,

 

Explain what happened with your previous petition, and include evidence to support it.  You say the first visa was denied, then include as evidence the denial notice which states the reason you were denied.
 


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-08-09 15:34:00
IMBRA Special TopicsEstimated time to get package from MNL

 

If you get a letter from USEM I will be totally shocked being we are talking PhilPost here.   :girlwerewolf2xn:    How long does it take for a letter to arrive?  In the Phils?  How about forever! 

 

The embassy doesn't send anything of importance through the mail, everything you need is online.

 

Follow the flashing arrow below for details on the process for the K-1 in Manila.

 

How about never lol!  My wife has never received anything from the embassy.


ZedaynMalePhilippines2014-10-17 09:06:00
IMBRA Special TopicsApproved

Congrats!


KASH2011MaleUganda2014-10-12 07:38:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
I don’t know if this is the correct place to post it. But my REF is at home I am at work and can’t leave right now. But I am very excited and wanted to update you all that the REF has come. I hope it is the REF it is from homeland security anyway.

Luke and Ro

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
rl2009Not TellingBrazil2006-06-30 13:12:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan

Ok, the questions begin. I met Luz through Yahoo personals. I am guessing that it isn't a MB but I would like to hear that from someone official. I had one previous petition MORE than 2 years ago. If I read that right I don't think I need the wavier. Right?


I think a "marraige broker" is a nicer way of saying "mail order bride service". Also stuff like match.com but geared exclusively international relationships or international "sex tours". I have seen many of these sites, whether its just as small as a simple "meet" service with profiles or as elaborate as what seemed like these women were all photoghraphed at a hotel just to get an American man constitues a marriage broker.

(I have nothing against anybody trying to get here in anyway, I don't hate, I congratulate)
flipicanezeMale02006-09-09 00:17:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
QUOTE (Igor Brukker @ Jun 21 2006, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got my IMBRA RFE in the mail today, and already sent it back to Vermont.
Here is a scan of the RFE



THANKYOU that was a good read


Rick
radsr2002MalePhilippines2007-08-24 16:59:00
IMBRA Special TopicsIMBRA RFE Scan
Well i dont have any criminal record so i am not too worried about the whole IMBRA just hope that being as that the filipinaheart website didnt ask me for the information before us talking online doesnt cause us more delays because that is part of the law also that the marriage brokerage is supposed to collect the information before you can have contact with the other members.
Being that it wasnt a law a year ago they never collected that info from me.
gobdogmanNot TellingPhilippines2006-06-21 21:59:00