Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
US Citizenship General Discussion	Naturilization Interview Today	Who did the US fight during the Revolutionary War? (She said that one was especially for me!!) I do not know if they changed it, but the answer on the USCIS web site was wrong, what did you say? Well, I think the answer was obvious - seeing as she asked the question "especially for me". The answer was .............. the English, and that is the answer I gave.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-06-06 14:46:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	Naturilization Interview Today	I just wanted you guys to know that I attended my Naturalization Interview today in Pittsburgh. It was such a long drive, 5.5 hours each way, to attend a 10 minute interview! The District Adjudications Officer asked me into her office and asked me the usual questions - address, phone number, date of birth. Then she asked me if I had brought the photographs they requested I bring. I explained that the letter requesting photo's gave two different sets of dimensions for the photo's - so she could choose which one's she wanted from the selection I brought with me! She then asked me the test questions - I had been going over them all for weeks and she asked me "How many stripes are there on the flag? What colour are they? What colour are the stars? Who did the US fight during the Revolutionary War? (She said that one was especially for me!!), "What is the minimum voting age in the US?" and finally, "What is the capital of the state you live in?" She told me I had passed and then asked if I would like to come back to Pittsburgh for the Oath Ceremony, some time within the next 30 days, or whether I would prefer to attend the Martinsburg office, which is about an hour from my home, but that wouldn't be until October? I told her that I would come back to Pittsburgh, even though it was a tremendous drive, because I would prefer to get this done before my daughter's eighteenth birthday, so she won't have to go through the interview but will derive her citizenship from me. She said that was fine and handed me a letter telling me I'd passed and confirming that the Oath ceremony would take place in Pittsburgh within the next 30 days and I would be informed of the date by letter. Now, I just have to get my son's AOS approved and we'll be one big happy family!	Girona40	Female	England	2006-06-05 18:25:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	The original question was:- My wife (K1) and here daughter just received approval for Green Cards. So 3 years from now my wife can apply for US Citizenship. I read where young children can becme a US citizen the same time as there mother in 3 years and I also read where it mentioned a 5 year requirement.. so now I am confused and didnt know where to find out the information? Anyone have any experiences? I don't see how my answer was mis-leading to many. The question was asking when they "can" "apply" for US citizenship and I merely answered. You are more likely to confuse people when you state that they are required to pass "several" further "tests", when they are not. There are, indeed, certain requirements that have to be met, but no further "tests". I think you are now trying to prove some kind of personal point here - that is not helping anyone at all. The final sentence of the OP's post was "Anyone have any experience?" As I do have experience and am a US citizen, by naturalization, I thought I would give my advice in the hope tht it would help. I do not feel that what I said warranted attack from you, or any other person who does not have "experience" of the naturalization application and process itself. I guess I was wrong. I have, since joining VJ, tried my best to offer advice - particularly to those who have questions with regard to K-1 and K-2 visas and anything that I have experience of myself. Once I gained citizenship I was tempted to just leave the boards, since I personally don't require help or assistance. However, I felt that if I was able to help someone else, that it was my duty to do my best. You pointed out that my answer "will also be mis-leading". That has never been my intention and on occasion I have been quite blunt as to how we have been dealt with by the US Immigration and Citizenship Service - at times it is not "all roses" and can be downright upsetting. But to me there is nothing more upsetting than someone, who has not been through the entire process of entry as an immigrant to citizenship telling me that I am misleading others. Therefore, it is with regret that I withdraw from these boards and will refrain from reading or posting anything. The last thing I want to do is mislead anyone. Good Luck Dan with your process - I sincerely hope that your wife has a smooth journey to citizenship, along with her child. Regards G Girona, And while the answer that you did post will be helpful to many it will also be mis-leading to many, because there are people who have been LPRs for 3 years and who are married to a USC but who are not qualified to apply for citizenship 90 days prior to 3 years since they became an LPR. Yodrak Yodrak, I think your last statement pretty much applies to every application you make during this process. Of course you can "apply at any time"! Personally, I don't think that if I posted that as my answer it would be much help to anyone!	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-07 08:25:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Yodrak, I think your last statement pretty much applies to every application you make during this process. Of course you can "apply at any time"! Personally, I don't think that if I posted that as my answer it would be much help to anyone! Girona, Of course one can apply - one can apply at any time they like, including before 90 days prior to being an LPR for 3 years. But unless they meet all of the requirements they're going to get rejected - even if they are married to a USC and have been an LPR for three years. Yodrak The statement I made regarding the 90 days etc., is relatively simple and is also correct. I was merely stating WHEN she can apply, not the criteria or requirements for such an application. If you are married to a USC you can APPLY for citizenship 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-06 17:26:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Girona, Of course one can apply - one can apply at any time they like, including before 90 days prior to being an LPR for 3 years. But unless they meet all of the requirements they're going to get rejected - even if they are married to a USC and have been an LPR for three years. Yodrak The statement I made regarding the 90 days etc., is relatively simple and is also correct. I was merely stating WHEN she can apply, not the criteria or requirements for such an application. If you are married to a USC you can APPLY for citizenship 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-06 17:13:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Okay, that's all I wanted you to clarify. You are talking of requirements and not "tests". You would call the knowledge of English and Civics a test though. The USCIS refer to it as a "test" when you receive your N-652. It clearly states on mine "You passed the tests of English and US history and government". Hopefully, people will not be concerned that they are to be "tested" further by the USCIS - the process is stressful enough. The statement I made regarding the 90 days etc., is relatively simple and is also correct. I was merely stating WHEN she can apply, not the criteria or requirements for such an application. If you are married to a USC you can APPLY for citizenship 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years. Girona, Zyggy is correct, I was referring primarily to the Continuous Residence and Physical Presence tests, and there is another similar to these as well - Time in State or District. There are also caveats attached to the marriage to a USC that should not be overlooked. And being of good moral character. Agreed, you could call these things 'criteria' or 'requirements' rather than 'tests', just as you could call knowledge of English and civics 'requirements' rather than 'tests', the 'test' being the method of determining whether or not one meets the 'criteria' or 'requirement'. Anyway, all of these things are listed in the table of requirements on pages 22-25 of the Guide to Naturalization. It's not as simple as "Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen." Yodrak I believe what Yodrak is refering to is a time in US test (at least 18 months in the US) and a residency test (live at least 90 days in your state of residence)... Neither of the above are "tests" they are "criteria" you have to meet. If that is what Yodrak is trying to say then he should clarify this. People are often thrown into confusion and become unduly worried when other people refer to further "tests" when there are none.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-06 13:41:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Would like you to confirm that you are not talking about any other "tests" we have missed, Yodrak. Thanks. Girona, No. Read the Guide. Yodrak Girona, Provided that she meets several tests in addition to the two criteria that you mention here. Yodrak Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. .... Yodrak, What tests are you talking about? The civics test and the language test?	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-06 10:45:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	I also "searched" the word TEST. The Guide only refers to the English test and the Civics test. Just curious as to what other "tests" you mean. Yodrak, Read it - can't see any other tests. What are you talking about? Girona, No. Read the Guide. Yodrak Girona, Provided that she meets several tests in addition to the two criteria that you mention here. Yodrak Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. .... Yodrak, What tests are you talking about? The civics test and the language test? I believe what Yodrak is refering to is a time in US test (at least 18 months in the US) and a residency test (live at least 90 days in your state of residence)... Neither of the above are "tests" they are "criteria" you have to meet. If that is what Yodrak is trying to say then he should clarify this. People are often thrown into confusion and become unduly worried when other people refer to further "tests" when there are none.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-05 20:44:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	I also "searched" the word TEST. The Guide only refers to the English test and the Civics test. Just curious as to what other "tests" you mean. Yodrak, Read it - can't see any other tests. What are you talking about? Girona, No. Read the Guide. Yodrak Girona, Provided that she meets several tests in addition to the two criteria that you mention here. Yodrak Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. .... Yodrak, What tests are you talking about? The civics test and the language test?	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-03 17:39:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Yodrak, Read it - can't see any other tests. What are you talking about? Girona, No. Read the Guide. Yodrak Girona, Provided that she meets several tests in addition to the two criteria that you mention here. Yodrak Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. .... Yodrak, What tests are you talking about? The civics test and the language test?	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-03 17:12:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Dan, See 'A Guide To Naturalization' on the USCIS web site. Yodrak My wife (K1) and here daughter just received approval for Green Cards. So 3 years from now my wife can apply for US Citizenship. I read where young children can becme a US citizen the same time as there mother in 3 years and I also read where it mentioned a 5 year requirement.. so now I am confused and didnt know where to find out the information? Anyone have any experiences? Dan Girona, Provided that she meets several tests in addition to the two criteria that you mention here. Yodrak Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. .... Yodrak, What tests are you talking about? The civics test and the language test?	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-03 16:18:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	K2 3 or 5 years wait time?	Dan, Your wife can apply for citizenship, 90 days prior to being an LPR for three years, because she is married to a US citizen. Your K-2 stepchild, if they are under 18, will DERIVE citizenship and need do nothing to become a citizen. To apply for a copy of the child's naturalization certificate you only need to file an N-600. They (both wife and child) can get US passports by sending the K-1's citizenship certificate with the passport application. The five year wait is for those that enter of other types of visa i.e. don't gain citizenship via marriage. Hope this helps.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-07-03 13:57:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	question on children becoming citizens	This might help you understand a little better. Citizenship through parents You could look on the USCIS website too, I am sure they have details of requirements on there. www. uscis.gov. My daugher "derived" citizenship from me when I naturalized. It is not just a birthright, and is "automatic" if the child is under 18 and holds a green card. As soon as I received my Naturalization Certificate, we simply applied for an American passport for her - which arrived within a couple of weeks. Edited by Girona40, 14 December 2006 - 09:59 AM.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-12-14 09:58:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	About oath ceremony	I really need to know how long is the oath ceremony be? Mine will be in Baltimore at 11am and I have to arrange to make apointment with my doctor that day. I also want to know if it necesary to bring my passport? Thank you in advance for your info. Is it not possible to book your doctor's appointment another day, either before or after? No, you don't need your passport and my oath ceremony took about an hour and a half. It depends on how many people there are attending the ceremony that day - because they have to issue the Certificates to everyone, so I can't be specific.	Girona40	Female	England	2007-01-12 11:30:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	Time to Citizenship K1	If it's any help. I arrived here in July 2002 and became a citizen in July 2006. Backlogs weren't as bad back then, so I can't really tell you how long it takes nowadays. But, like I said, "if it's any help".	Girona40	Female	England	2007-01-24 06:19:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	kids and citizenship	You can either file an N-600, which will give the kids a "Certificate of Citizenship", or whatever it's called, which may be something they will need later in life, who knows. But you can apply for passports for them now. I simpy applied for a passport for my daughter, which only took a couple of weeks for them to get to her. Much faster than anything the USCIS has ever done for us!!! I didn't see the need for a "Certificate of Citizenship" right now. How many "Americans" do you know with one of those - she can always show her passport to prove she is a USC. Oh, and it was a lot cheaper!	Girona40	Female	England	2006-12-14 09:38:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	how many naturalization cermonies a year	Does anyone knows? how many ceremonies a year are held in Pennsylvania? Not sure about the whole state of PA, but last year in Pittsburgh I was offered either July or November. So, I am guessing that in Pittsburgh they hold them 3 times a year, or thereabouts. Hope this helps.	Girona40	Female	England	2007-04-22 20:19:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	Two questions about the oath ceremony	I took a small file with various papers in it - NOA's from the very beginning of this journey. Green Card, obviously, and copies of any AP that I obtained over the years. As for dress. It really is up to you. When I went for my oath ceremony though, it was a very warm day. The ladies all wore summer dresses and the guys wore either slacks and shirt or jeans and short-sleeved shirts. I just remember being pleased that I had made some kind of effort to look presentable that day because there were photographers there - I am guessing from the local paper - and others taking their oath wanted pictures to send family etc. Anyway, enjoy the day - that's the most important thing!	Girona40	Female	England	2007-04-27 20:43:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	N-600K	The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14-or the U.S. citizen parent has a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14; -comment- this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred, so in an additional 5 years The child is under 18 years of age; I have looked and looked and cannot find any information stating that the "physical presence" starts AFTER the citizenship. Where did you cite this? Everything I have read makes no indication that this "physical presence" must be whilst in Citizen Status. Zyggy, where did you get this information - there is no link to what you have "quoted". When my daughter became a US citizen, her citizenship derived from mine, and confirmed by USCIS officials at my Oath Ceremony, I had not been in the US 5 years, and she gained her citizenship the exact same moment I gained mine, so not sure where this information "has to be physically present in the US for five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14" comes from. Or that "this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred". That just isn't correct. All of you are confusing the two processes... In this case there are two distinct processes through differing parts of the INA depending on whether the child is a resident or a non-resident of the US. Remember that I was answering the question on whether or not they could use the N-600K for their daughter i.e. citizenship for a child that was not a resident of the US... There is a way to get citizenship for their foreign daughter, but not through Section 1433 of the INA at this time... and therefore by not filing an N-600K... The path that the OP was talking about was through Section 1433 of the INA.. in this case, yes, the five years of residency must be fulfilled before one is eligible to apply for naturlaization in this Section. A N-600K petition is used solely to apply for citizenship through natualization through this Section of the INA... Sec 1433 http://www.law.corne...33----000-.html A parent who is a citizen of the United States (or, if the citizen parent has died during the preceding 5 years, a citizen grandparent or citizen legal guardian) may apply for naturalization on behalf of a child born outside of the United States who has not acquired citizenship automatically under section 1431 of this title. The Attorney General shall issue a certificate of citizenship to such applicant upon proof, to the satisfaction of the Attorney General, that the following conditions have been fulfilled: (1) At least one parent (or, at the time of his or her death, was) is a citizen of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization. (2) The United States citizen parent— (A) has (or, at the time of his or her death, had) been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years; or (B) has (or, at the time of his or her death, had) a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years. (3) The child is under the age of eighteen years. (4) The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the applicant (or, if the citizen parent is deceased, an individual who does not object to the application). (5) The child is temporarily present in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission, and is maintaining such lawful status. As can be seen above, in order for a child to be eligible for citizenship in this path, the citizen parent must have been resident in teh US for more than 5 years before they could apply for citizenship for a child that is NOT resident in the US. There is no stipulation for automatic citizenship for a child upon naturalization of the parent once the naturalization is conferred if the child is NOT resident in the US. If the child is NOT resident in the US, the parent must have 5 years of residence before they can apply for naturalization of the non-resident child... THe other path to citizenship through naturalization of a parent is through Section 1431 of the INA... 1431 http://www.law.corne...31----000-.html a) A child born outside of the United States automatically becomes a citizen of the United States when all of the following conditions have been fulfilled: (1) At least one parent of the child is a citizen of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization. (2) The child is under the age of eighteen years. (3) The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence. Note Subparagraph 3... The child must be residing in the US (i.e. permanent resident) and be in the full legal and physical custody of the citizen parent... THe OP has not fulfilled the requirements of this Section at the present time. If they want their alien daughter to get her US Citizenship through her naturalized father, then she must become a permanent resident of the US. If the father has full legal custody, then that will make getting an immigrant visa for her that much easier... I hope this clears up the confusion that people are having... Everone who replied above, your children were able to get citizenship through the naturalization of the parent because you fulfilled the requirements of Section 1431. In the OP's case, unless their child enters the US as a Permanent Resdient before they turn 18 they will not be able to confer citizenship to their child through Section 1431. If they wish to apply for naturalization of their child under Section 1433, then they will have to wait 5 years after naturalization before they can do that... FIle the N-600 K and have her take the Citizenship oath before she turns 18... Thank you Zyggy. I was not confused as to who is entitled to derive citizenship from their parents, rather I felt that your previous post, with no link or cite, was confusing to those who have not been through the process of obtaining citizenship for their children. You are quite right, the situation the OP outlines means that the child concerned is not entitled to derive citizenship in the same way my child did. In my opinion, the I-130 route is the best option in this case.	Girona40	Female	England	2007-05-08 15:27:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	N-600K	The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14-or the U.S. citizen parent has a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14; -comment- this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred, so in an additional 5 years The child is under 18 years of age; I have looked and looked and cannot find any information stating that the "physical presence" starts AFTER the citizenship. Where did you cite this? Everything I have read makes no indication that this "physical presence" must be whilst in Citizen Status. Zyggy, where did you get this information - there is no link to what you have "quoted". When my daughter became a US citizen, her citizenship derived from mine, and confirmed by USCIS officials at my Oath Ceremony, I had not been in the US 5 years, and she gained her citizenship the exact same moment I gained mine, so not sure where this information "has to be physically present in the US for five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14" comes from. Or that "this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred". That just isn't correct. If I am a U.S. citizen, is my child a U. S. citizen? A child who is born in the United States, or born abroad to a U.S. citizen(s) who lived in (or came to) the United States for a period of time prior to the child’s birth, is considered a U.S. citizen at birth. A child who is: born to a U.S. citizen who did not live in (or come to) the United States for a period of time prior to the child’s birth, or born to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent or two alien parents who naturalize after the child’s birth, or adopted and is permanently residing in the United States can become a U.S. citizen by action of law on the date on which all of the following requirements have been met: The child was lawfully admitted for permanent residence*; and Either parent was a United States citizen by birth or naturalization**; and The child was still under 18 years of age; and The child was not married; and The child was the parent’s legitimate child or was legitimated by the parent before the child’s 16th birthday (Stepchildren or children born out of wedlock who were not legitimated before their 16th birthday do not derive United States citizenship through their parents.); and If adopted, the child met the requirements of section 101(B)(1)(E) or and has had a full and final adoption; and The child was residing in the United States in the legal custody of the U.S. citizen parent (this includes joint custody); and The child was residing in the United States in the physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent. If you and your child meet all of these requirements, you may obtain a U.S. passport for the child as evidence of citizenship. If the child needs further evidence of citizenship, you may submit an "Application for Certificate of Citizenship" (Form N-600) to USCIS to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship. If the child meets the requirements of Section 101(B)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act as an adopted child, you may submit an “Application for Certificate of Citizenship on Behalf of an Adopted Child” (Form N-643). (Note: a child who meets these requirements before his or her 18th birthday may obtain a passport or Certificate of Citizenship at any time, even after he or she turns 18.) Legal Opinion	Girona40	Female	England	2007-05-08 07:34:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	N-600K	The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14-or the U.S. citizen parent has a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14; -comment- this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred, so in an additional 5 years The child is under 18 years of age; I have looked and looked and cannot find any information stating that the "physical presence" starts AFTER the citizenship. Where did you cite this? Everything I have read makes no indication that this "physical presence" must be whilst in Citizen Status. Zyggy, where did you get this information - there is no link to what you have "quoted". When my daughter became a US citizen, her citizenship derived from mine, and confirmed by USCIS officials at my Oath Ceremony, I had not been in the US 5 years, and she gained her citizenship the exact same moment I gained mine, so not sure where this information "has to be physically present in the US for five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14" comes from. Or that "this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred". That just isn't correct. Edited by Girona40, 08 May 2007 - 07:29 AM.	Girona40	Female	England	2007-05-08 07:28:00
US Citizenship General Discussion	N-600K	The child has at least one U.S. citizen parent (by birth or naturalization); The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14-or the U.S. citizen parent has a citizen parent who has been physically present in the United States for at least five years, at least two of which were after the age of 14; -comment- this has to be done AFTER the citizenship has been conferred, so in an additional 5 years The child is under 18 years of age; The child is residing outside the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent or, the U.S. citizen grandparent or legal guardian, if the U.S. citizen parent died. comment- I don't believe this is the case for you.. if your spouse had custody she would be living with you in the US correct The child is temporarily present in the United States-having entered the United States lawfully and maintaining lawful status in the United States; and The child must meet the requirements applicable to adopted children under immigration law If the U.S. citizen parent of the child has died, a U.S. citizen grandparent or legal guardian may apply on behalf of the child within 5 years of the parent's death. (Note: For further information, please see Addition of Citizen Grandparents and Citizen Legal Guardians as Eligible Applicants pursuant to INA 322) I think the only way you're going to be able to get US Citizenship for this child is to file an I-130 and have the child apply for a immigrant visa... and the only way that is going to happen is if the mother agrees to allow your husband to become the custodial parent... and that may take the assistance of a lawyer to make that happen... ANd the process for Angelian Jolie is completely different... in her case she adopted the children.. that takes an I-600... Zyggy, Does this mean that when I apply for naturalization in 2008 and am eventually granted citizenship in, let's say, 2009, my 17 y.o. son won't be able to derive US citizenship from my naturalization process? He's currently in the US as an LPR and when I read the naturalization process, I had interpreted it to mean that my son will also automatically become a USC as soon as I naturalize. No... In your case, a Child under 18 whose parent becomes a US Citizen automatically becomes a US Citizen if they are a permanent resident of the US and they have legal and physical custody of the child which resides in the US... It appears that you meet this condition... it appears that the OP does not.. That's right. On the day I became a USC my daughter automatically became a USC also. She was 17, lived with me, and was a LPR. We did not file an N-600, but chose to simply apply for a US Passport - which came in a couple of weeks. With our past USCIS experiences and the time they take to do anything, plus the cost of filing, it just made more sense to us. She hasn't needed a Naturalization Certificate for anything, and I can't see her needing one any time soon. She can file an N-600 any time in the future, if she feels the need.	Girona40	Female	England	2007-05-07 16:14:00
Canada	Pending custody and possible interview conflicts...	I had to go through all this in England. Only difference I was already divorced and my daughter's father hadn't had any contact with her for two years - by his own choosing. But, as soon as he heard I was getting married and I had to have his permission to bring my daughter, he said no. We went to court and it was horrible, but they agreed that it was actually in my daughter's best interests. They weren't interested in how either of us would fare, but how she would and what kind of life she would have here. Anyway, I will try to answer your questions as best I can and I am sure others in the same situation will also. So, don't take this as gospel, just my opinion on things. 1) Can Karen go to the interview if the issues aren't resolved with custody and leaving the country with the kids? I would say "No" because I had to produce a document from the Court, at the interview, to show that I had permission to remove my daughter from the jurisdiction of the Court. 2) If custody and permission to leave the country is granted in our favor can she show proof after the interview? This may be possible - you would have to contact the consulate and ask that question. I am sure there is someone there that could answer that for you. But you may find that it takes a while to get to interview stage, by which time the Court may have made their decision. My Court hearing didn't take long to set up at all and I had several months to kill after that before the interview was scheduled. But I was in the UK - don't know what it is like anywhere else. 3) Can the interview be extended in the hopes we have an answer from the courts but not before the original interview date? You can tell them you cannot make the interview date they schedule, but it may be some considerable time before they re-schedule one for you. What happens if they re-schedule and you still haven't heard from the Court with a decision? 4) Does any of this making sense to you? If not I will try to clarify!! It all makes perfect sense. I would give the US Consulate a call and ask them the questions though. But, if it were me, and this is only what I would do, I would wait until I had all my paperwork to hand before I attended the interview. Good Luck with whatever you decide. Edited by Girona40, 27 April 2006 - 09:14 PM.	Girona40	Female	England	2006-04-27 21:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Question Concerning Interview	I know I'm probably getting ahead of myself since we haven't even received our NOA2 yet, but I want to make sure I'm prepared. I was reading over interview reviews from the United Kingdom and noticed that a very common question to be asked is whether or not we have met each other's families. My family has met Adam and they love him, but I have not met his in person yet. I was planning to attend his brother's wedding with him this summer, but with the backlog in passports, that didn't pan out. I'm wondering if anyone here has sucessfully completed an interview without both parties meeting each others families? Do you guys think this will be a big problem? Thanks again	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-06-21 15:24:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Affidavit of Support	I think it says an offical public notary works, too.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-04 15:30:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	I-134 and Supporting Documents	Hey guys, I was just wondering when you all think the best time to start gathering the documents that have to be sent to the fiance for the interview. I've read immediately after the NOA2, and I've recently read when they receive packet 3. Does anyone have an idea of how recent the consulates want the bank statements / letter from employer dated when the fiance goes to the interview? Thanks so much everyone	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-04 15:51:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Financial Support has my head a spinning!	I'm not an expert on this or anything, but from what I've read and questions I've had answered myself, it seems like you'd be better of having her sister co-sponsor you. Does your sister make above the 125% poverty guideline? The only thing I can answer for sure is H.) Tylenol PM - It also helps me sleep	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-04 15:17:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	letter from employer	I'm not comfortable telling my employer or co-workers I'm getting married, atleast not at the moment. I was wondering if there are any other reasons you would ask your boss for a letter stating your salary, position, etc. ? I understand where you're coming from. I live in a very small town and I don't want everyone to know about the wedding (except for my family) until he gets back. I don't want to explain the whole visa process to everyone I talk to. I figured it would be easier once he was here for good. Also, my employer is one of my college instructors and I don't feel comfortable discussing that with him. I think I'm going to go with the loan story. If they call to verify and mention it to my boss, oh well, I'm busted. But nothing on the employer letter would be a lie, so I don't see the problem. I thought I was the only one worried about that .	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-11 09:58:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	co-sponser questions	You'll definitely want to read the guides before you start the K-1 process. Here is a FAQ concerning the I-134, the form you and your co-sponsor will have to fill out --> http://www.visajourn...mp;page=support	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-19 18:58:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Affidavit of Support	thanks for ans! do i fill out the cospon info 134 like mine but with their info? are there any special instructions for a cospon They fill the I-134 in with their own personal information. I'm having a co-sponsor, too, and I'm going to have her fill it out herself because there's no way I'd know all of her income/assets information. Then I'm going to collect it from her and mail it to my fiance. Make sure you add the supporting documents, too, like pay stubs and an employment letter. You can usually find the information about what is required on your embassy's website. Make sure you fill in your timeline, it's very helpful when people are trying to give you advice or information.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-22 23:19:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Affidavit of Support	thanks for the info do i put the cospon on the 134 or just fill it out and wait for the embassy if any issues? You fill out an I-134 and the co-sponsor fills out an I-134. Don't wait for the embassy to tell you that you need a seperate sponsor because it will be too late. Find out if you meet 125% of the poverty level now, and if you don't, get a sponsor.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-22 22:18:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Marijuana...why did you say that?!?!?!?!?	I think everything will be fine. If it came back 100% ok the first time, it should be 100% ok this time. I also think he did the right thing by telling the truth.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-27 22:44:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Real Estate and the I-134	You could add a separate sheet to the I-134, if there isn't enough room on the actual form. I was thinking I could do that since they tell you that you can on other forms, but I wasn't sure because it wasn't specifically mentioned. I think that's what I will do. Thank you all so much for your information.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-01 16:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Real Estate and the I-134	You can put total real estate value on that line. Its not asking for one location, but total real estate value, regardless of how many different properties there are. As for the other property, you are correct, jewelry, cars, furniture, etc. If I put the total real estate value, what would I put in the location for location of the property where it says (street and number) (city) (state) (zip code). There is only one line for this and I have more than one real estate location I would like to include. What I was told by the lawyer I talked to here is what you need to provide. What is your yearly income? If it is above the poverty guideline by 125% then you do not need to provide ANY of the other requested information. The only reason to provide additional infomration like property value, car value, stock value etc is if you do not make anough money from your job to be at or above the 125% povery guidline for the number of people you will be supporting. If you currently support yourself and you are brining your fiancee/wife here then you have to be above the guideline for a household of 2 people. If you or your fiancee/wife have kids who live with you or will be living with you you would have to factor them into the calculation as well. If you do not meet the guideline with your imcome here is what you need to do. 125% poverty guideline - your income = difference in income/guideline. 5 * difference in income/guideline = ammount you have to have in other capital If you have 5 times the difference in other capital like a home or a car or stocks, or all of them combined then you meet the requirement. This is when you would need to provide information for a house etc. My income is $8,000 below the 125% poverty guideline that is required for the number of people in my household. I have more than enough in real estate/assets to make up 5 times the difference. I was just needing a way to put them all onto the I-134.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-01 16:22:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Real Estate and the I-134	I'm hoping that me and my fiance will eventually get our NOA2, but while we're waiting I started looking at the Affidavit of Support. I've read alot of posts on here about it (and have made quite a few of my own) and I have a pretty good idea about what to do, but there is one more question that I have. In section 7 of this form it says "I own real estate valued at: _____________", then below that it says " Which is located at: ______________". Then it continues with section 8. What if you own more than one location of real estate that you want to include in your Affidavit of Support? Do you just attach another sheet with that real estate information? I've noticed that they usually mention to attach a seperate sheet if you have more information, but it wasn't specifically said on this form. I'm slightly below the poverty guidelines in anual income and would like to include this information. I do have my cousin co-sponsoring me, just incase my information isn't adequate, but I'd like to have all my bases covered. One more thing, so I won't have to post a whole new thread on this later. What exactly are they looking for in personal property? I found on another website that they are interested in the approximate value of cars, jewlery, land, appliances and other equipment? Do you guys think this is accurate? Thanks for taking the time to reply.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-01 10:31:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Co-Sponsor Question	Hi, Since my fiancee in the US and I are in a similar situation (she is not working because 1 she is a full time college student, and 2 about to move and her step-dad is the cosponsor) I just wanted to ask if you still submitted an I-134 yourself. I read somewhere that the US fiancee has to be the primary sponsor, hence provide an I-134 as well. Thanks, Phil The USC is not required to be the primary sponsor. You sure about that one? So you only need one sponsor who meets the poverty line to fill out the I-134 and everything. And is there any way to show some means of sponsoring from sources other than from US citizens or residents? From family back in Germany in my case for example? I am not sure they are right because from what I have been reading the USC HAS to be the main sponsor. That doesn't mean that they have to be the only sponsor or the one with the money. But from what I understand the USC has to be a sponsor even if you need a co-sponsor. I e-mailed the Danish Embassy (which it might be different for every country) But they said that I had to fill it out too AND my co-sponsor. Even if I have no income. I've read that, too. To the OP: I am currently a full time student and even though I do have a part-time job it isn't nearly enough to meet 125% of the poverty level. I am going to submit my information, even though it won't make the cutoff, but I'm also going to submit that of my co-sponsor, who does, with the help of real estate/assets, meet the requirement. I haven't been approved yet, but hopefully that will be enough.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-01 21:19:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Income requirement on the affidavit I-134	Do you already have a job in line? If you start the job before your interview you could probably get a letter from your employer, but if not you should probably consider a co-sponsor.	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-02 22:51:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	QUESTION ABOUT I-134 Affidavit of Support	If there is some part of "annual" you're not understanding, try a dictionary. That was a bit harsh . OP: The first two pages are just instructions, those are only for you to use to help you fill the form out. You just need to mail in the form pages. For 7 they want what you do in the first blank, and who pays you to do it in the second. They want to know how much money you make in a year. Combine your yearly income from both jobs and include proof of both, like paystubs, a letter from your employers and tax return transcripts. I'm about ready to fill out my I-134 and I've posted quite a few questions about it already. Try doing a forum search on it, you'll find tons of posts. Many of them are the same thing, but reading them might help you make sure everything is in order. Good luck with the interview!	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-11 21:22:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	Affidavit of Support! HELP!	I have never heard of that for London! I'm sure it's a mistake. You might want to call the DoS & ask them about it. Alternatively, email the consulate with your case number in the subject line. Look up AlienUKgirl, she has pics of the checklist in her photos. I looked up AlienUKgirl's profile and couldn't find the photos. I may just be looking in the wrong place. Could anyone post a link to them? Thanks so much	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-07-26 18:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate Discussion	psoriasis and my K1 journey	I'm sure you'll be fine. I think you're just looking for reasons to worry .	Clarky and Tarah	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2007-08-16 09:31:00