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Middle East and North AfricaMonthly Thread May 2011
Had a bomb threat at work today. Had to evacuate all associates and customers out. I posted the link to it on my facebook. Crazy stressful day. We are about to have inventory on Thursday and then this happens. Hopefully whoever made the call will be found out. They have ways of finding out those things in case that person didnt know.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-05-03 21:12:00
Middle East and North AfricaWE GOT IT!!!!
Very happy for you Amber & Ahmed! Awesome news and I'll be excited to hear how the interview goes for ya'll! I wonder if they will let you go in with him for his interview? Keep us all posted on the details! Have fun with ur hubby tonight! ~Party~
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-05-29 11:26:00
Middle East and North AfricaMENA Spouses Poll
~Egypt

~Male

~No American born of Israeli decent from my biological mothers side.

Edited by ~PalmTreeGurl~, 22 June 2010 - 11:56 PM.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2010-06-22 23:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaToday we lost a MENA jewel
(F) Im very sorry Ryan!
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2010-01-15 15:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaToday we lost a MENA jewel
I signed the guest book but dont see where it posted... does it show ?
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2008-06-20 17:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaToday we lost a MENA jewel
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Middle East and North AfricaToday we lost a MENA jewel
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~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2008-06-18 00:05:00
Middle East and North Africaoldies but goodies?
I love hearing about successful marriages! I know Adam & I havent been married as long as those in this topic has, but we are less than 2 months away from our 5th anniversary and going on 6yrs together.

He's about to apply for citizenship whenever we get a free moment away from work. We still have no kids but we are currently working on that and hoping it will happen this year or next. He's such a hard worker & I'm so proud of him. We still go out on dates, he still comes up with the sweetest things to say to me that make me smile, he's the love of my life!

His newest cutest cheesy line to me this week was this.... "When GOD made you, He made you with everything except this one thing... my cell phone number!" Totally caught me off guard but we both started cracking up laughing! He's a doll!
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-01 01:02:00
Middle East and North AfricaOnline College?

Not sure about University of Phoenix but my husband is in the process of getting his MBA from Strayer University which is also online.

The main reason he chose it is because of his work hours and he can do everything he wants online. There is a campus near our house and he has done some of his courses in-class but he prefers the internet based classes. For him I think the cons are that he really has to be on top of things because its so easy for him to forget about assignments and things like that (that's just him though).


Thanks for the reply! Yah his work hours is part of the reason is wants to find something online, Im just not sure UoP is the right one for him. He is looking at what has Computer Networking or something very similar to it online and something affordable and possibly transferrable.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-24 22:58:00
Middle East and North AfricaOnline College?
Adam is thinking about University of Phoenix to study Computer Networking online. Has anyone on here studied from UoP and how was it? Any pros or cons from it? Or any other advice? Or what about any other colleges online?
He prefers to study from home since we live too far to drive out daily/weekly to a college and he likes studying online. He's got to get his highschool diploma from Egypt which his mom is working on that for him this week.

Also, he is about to finish the paperwork for the N400 and send that in for Citizenship... does it make a difference that he is in the process of Citizenship/name change if he starts college shortly?
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-24 22:36:00
Middle East and North AfricaOur Visa Journey is Complete!
Yay! ! ! Veryyyy exciting! Isnt it an awesome feeling!?
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-24 22:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaDid anyone change name on N400
Im wondering when your SOs filled out the N400 did they change their name? Specifically the middle name to an initial? Adam just wants a M. For his middle name... Can just an initial be put instead of a middle name?
Two weeks ago my brother in law became a Citizen and he changed his names around and added a family name...but no initials were used. Any ideas or anyone know the rules?
Thanks!
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-25 20:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaChild Custody In Egypt (Slightly Off Topic)

You and I dont know each other at all and I have been around here alot longer than 2 years. I find nothing in any of these posts funny . I find them very sad. There is absolutely nothing funny about kids not growing up with their moms or someone taking them away from their moms. Yes, sometimes moms are not the right people to raise their kids but no matter what you help the child understand that EVERYONE is working together to raise them

Sorry for any misunderstanding Aya. I find the entire thread very very very very sad.



But Kat, you dont lie to a child either... if the childs parent *mom or dad is not doing everything they can... its not ok to make believe and pretend that everyone is working together. Children arent going to respect that... what they will respect is when EVERYONE truly IS working together. But thats a whole nother subject for a whole nother time.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-25 19:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaChild Custody In Egypt (Slightly Off Topic)

Define motherhood!!

So, you're basically saying that just because somebody didn't biologically have a child, it does not make them a mother.. What about all the adoptive mothers around the world, who mothered millions and millions of children? Are they not mothers too?

What about the sick biological mothers that just abandon their children, abuse them, in some cases kill them...you call those parents still??

Whether I had a child of my own or not is non of your business... I certainly don't care to share any of my life with you, and in fact was not addressing you in the first place...


Excellent post Aya! Thankful my adopted mom is my mother... one who could not carry any children in her womb but adopted 7 of us to become her own! I love my mom!
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-25 19:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaChild Custody In Egypt (Slightly Off Topic)
O. dear. Heavens! :wow:



Kat ... please dont give Aya any advice, shes one girl that definitely got her head on her shoulders and knows how to handle her own business and take care of her children/family.

Morena, its not necessary to get upset and uptight about someone elses situation that you dont know 100% about. You havent been around VJ long enough and frankly no one at this moment knows the outcome of the OPs future but GOD alone. Just chill a bit on this whole subject.

Edited by ~PalmTreeGurl~, 25 June 2011 - 06:06 PM.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2011-06-25 18:05:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
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As I get used to yelling and fighting, he is calming down and not requiring it as much. It's a learning process. He's still learning, too, how this country works. He's getting there, one day at a time.

Yeah, shame on them. But we all compromise when we get married, one way or another. Women control and manipulate just as much as men do. I pick my battles, but I'm winning the war. smile.gif

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I just hate to hear women get "used" to yellings and fightings. I came from an abusive background, including watching the death of my mother... Not that my situation has to do with you, I hate to hear OR see women getting used to that #######...
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-12-05 22:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
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You are all right and I believe its about family. For him, it was about control. He got his way, but he had a hell of a day! We fought most of the day and I was pretty upset through it. After the day was over, he tried to do anything he could to make me happy again (So we got to tell the parents we're expecting! dancin5hr.gif ). Saturday we went to my families (whom he does like) and when we got home he let me know he was going to do more research on the holiday and that we would probably celebrate next year. It's rough sometimes that getting the smallest change out of him takes a huge fight or drama to get it done, but it's what works. I know he's uncomfortable still with some things, but he'll think twice about taking my holiday away again smile.gif I hope.

Sorry for the delay, I don't get many chances to get on here any more.

I wonder if it's an Arab thing cuz my hubbys the same way and I hate it!


Me too! I was never a yeller or fighter before, but now I have to be. It's an uncomfortable thing to get used to, but once I came to the realization that he isn't leaving just cause we fight, I let it fly! At least the longer he's here the less often we do it.



Tina, I hope you dont have to get used to yelling and fighting with your husband. He needs to chill out and relax. Life is too short to be fussing over Thanksgiving, a time for giving Thanks and celebrating. And Im sure he wont be happy once Christmas time comes and you want to be with your family to celebrate. One thing I hate, is men that control and manipulate women. Shame on them.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-12-05 20:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (Astarte @ Apr 12 2009, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL "as you like" is a good one, too.

In all honesty, those phrases p*ss me off. They're so passive aggressive. They do make me LOL though.



yep! thats how it is here too... he will say the same thing and Im like either YES OR NO... or SOMETHING
I'll ask him where do u want to eat out at, and he will say As you like... well then I will give him what I like Atlanta Bread Co. or Golden Coral for variety... he says no no I dont like those.... ummm I asked you and you said as I like?!

those are as I like!

Edited by TamaraLovesAdam, 12 April 2009 - 09:21 AM.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-12 09:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (Zee Bee @ Apr 11 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that I disagree with the "If the woman does not wear hijab she is less likely to pray 5 times a day/be a practicing Muslim".

I have friends on both sides of that spectrum that would fit that judgement and others that do not. To imply that wearing the hijab makes a woman a better Muslim is just wrong wrong wrong. How can someone make that conclusion based on how a woman looks? Does the hijab remind you that it is time for prayer?

There are Muslim women on this board that cover their hair and those that do not. IMHO, none is better than the other. At the end of it all, hijab or no hijab, everyone is going to be judged by their actions and how they lived their lives.

There is nothing worse than judging someone by how they look.

Don't judge a book by its cover.

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~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 14:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
I was talking about AG, but everyone has their own opinion right? whistling.gif
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Im sure she'll come at some point and speak up about that, but from what I think from her writing, that not that she has a problem with it if its done the right way but the problem lies in the fact that there are women trying to say its required by the women to do it, enforced in some countries and men to make them do it and then making it seem like its by God.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 12:40:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (Kenza @ Apr 11 2009, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TamaraLovesAdam @ Apr 11 2009, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See thats the thing, I never said wearing hijab is wrong... NEVER said it. I just said its not for others to determine something that is between a woman and God. star_smile.gif got it now?
I dont believe its wrong, I believe its not a requirement. That is exactly what I've been saying the whole time.
and a side note... Hijab is not just for muslims, it is for christians as well. star_smile.gif

good.gif some may call it a sunnah-the way of the prophet SWS-and there are many things that are sunnah that people mix up between the real deal. for example, it is sunnah to pray 2 rakkat after duhr but only duhr is required. And thanks adam for mentioning people trying to convince others that hijab is bad....I love my hijab and don't think I will ever take it off, because I WILL feel naked without it!

and a side note: It was purely my decision and no one had any influence on me. Even when I first put it on-i was in Morocco-and my family was saying take it off your too young wait until you're older and have kids blah blah blah but alhamdoliallah I stuck with my promise to Allah SWT. I also was not hired at first at the Rabat American School during the summer BECAUSE i was wearing hijab...I sent an email to the embassy and the director of the school and later got hired smile.gif


Honestly, I dont see THAT many women trying to say Hijab is wrong or bad on here. The few that I can see would be VW, Leyla and myself that seem to agree that it is NOT required. I dont think either of the women OR myself said hijab is wrong. So I really dont know who all the people are that are trying to convince the majority that hijab is bad.

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good.gif some may call it a sunnah-the way of the prophet SWS-and there are many things that are sunnah that people mix up between the real deal. for example, it is sunnah to pray 2 rakkat after duhr but only duhr is required. And thanks adam for mentioning people trying to convince others that hijab is bad....I love my hijab and don't think I will ever take it off, because I WILL feel naked without it!

and a side note: It was purely my decision and no one had any influence on me. Even when I first put it on-i was in Morocco-and my family was saying take it off your too young wait until you're older and have kids blah blah blah but alhamdoliallah I stuck with my promise to Allah SWT. I also was not hired at first at the Rabat American School during the summer BECAUSE i was wearing hijab...I sent an email to the embassy and the director of the school and later got hired smile.gif


Good example of self motivation and struggel.

I came up with 7 different categories and backgrounds of women posting here, I think it will be hard to bring everybody together:

Women that were born muslim and wear hijab.
Women that were born muslimand don't wear hijab.
Women that converted by them selfs not because they were Married to a Muslim
Spouses of Muslims that converted to please there husband
Spouses of Muslims that converted not to please their husbands but because they truely beleive Islam.
Christian spouses of Muslims
Muslim women who are Married to Christians

let me know if I miss any categorie


You did, but its not necessary to write it down on here. star_smile.gif


Good moorning Tamara I'm stll sleepy from last night crying.gif

Its an open descution, I don't see whay not, can you please explain?


I've already explained myself and my husband to you on here, in open discussion and we are not listed. But thats cool. star_smile.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 12:14:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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good.gif some may call it a sunnah-the way of the prophet SWS-and there are many things that are sunnah that people mix up between the real deal. for example, it is sunnah to pray 2 rakkat after duhr but only duhr is required. And thanks adam for mentioning people trying to convince others that hijab is bad....I love my hijab and don't think I will ever take it off, because I WILL feel naked without it!

and a side note: It was purely my decision and no one had any influence on me. Even when I first put it on-i was in Morocco-and my family was saying take it off your too young wait until you're older and have kids blah blah blah but alhamdoliallah I stuck with my promise to Allah SWT. I also was not hired at first at the Rabat American School during the summer BECAUSE i was wearing hijab...I sent an email to the embassy and the director of the school and later got hired smile.gif


Good example of self motivation and struggel.

I came up with 7 different categories and backgrounds of women posting here, I think it will be hard to bring everybody together:

Women that were born muslim and wear hijab.
Women that were born muslimand don't wear hijab.
Women that converted by them selfs not because they were Married to a Muslim
Spouses of Muslims that converted to please there husband
Spouses of Muslims that converted not to please their husbands but because they truely beleive Islam.
Christian spouses of Muslims
Muslim women who are Married to Christians

let me know if I miss any categorie


You did, but its not necessary to write it down on here. star_smile.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 12:07:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
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I think Hijab is a requirment, But if you live in non Muslim country and fear for your life or you may be hurrassed you don't have to wear it Allah(SWT) said in the Qoran WALA TARMO BI ANFOSIKOM ILA TAHLOKA means do not expose your self to danger.
Astrfiro Allah for any mistakes , its just my opinion


gotta post my thoughts on that... if hajab was required then God wouldnt have told you for fear of your life or possible harrassment its ok NOT to wear it. Then each woman could say at any point in life they are in fear of their life for X reason or for harrassment. It either IS or ISNT a requirment.

I'm not a scholar, that was my opinion. what do you think about it?



I grew up in a home that from the time I was 12-18, my mother believed that God wanted us to dress in dresses and skirts in modest apparel. My sister and I did it for 6 years while living in the home. So, i did grow up in a very modest appearance home. We also know that modesty is also inside as well.
I myself do NOT believe a headcovering is required. I do not even wear dresses all the time now BUT I do wholeheartedly believe in MODESTY. I believe I can be just as modest in pants and a shirt as well as a long flowing dress or skirt and that some could be in a dress and not modest on the inside.

Are you and your husband muslims and what does he think about Hijab?


No, but he grew up muslim. We are christians.
He thinks hijab is nearly hilarious bcz some women from around his flat would get nearly naked out on the roof/balcony for all to see when their husbands werent around... ( not very inward or outward modest) and he doesnt get why women where tons of makeup but wrap their hair up if the point is modesty.



I will also add that while the above post is true, we both believe hijab is a form of modesty, nothing personal against it but again not a requirement.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 08:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
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aha but... praying is a pillar in islam... hijab isnt.

to answer your question: praying is more important than hijab even do both of them are required. Muslima who wear hijab are most likely to pray but the muslima without hijab are less likely to pray even do they have good moral and inside. if you don't pray you are not a Muslim but if you don't wear hijab you are still a muslim that comit a sin and can be forgiven.



then that would be along the lines of the muslim men who pray but go out drinking, cursing and sleeping around. They are so good bcz they pray but the other stuff they do is commiting a sin and is forgiveable. Got it! star_smile.gif

What those men do is wrong, but god will decide what to do about them.
we are talking about whats required and whats not, we are not here to judge.


ohh.... bcz what you said above that i underlined was judgemental of muslim women and by you assuming that most all the ones in the world that dont wear hijab -dont pray.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 02:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got you point Tamara. we all human and do mistakes and ask god for forgiveness.
I was talking to public not just you sorry if I was rude biggrin.gif



no no, your OK. No problems! This chat was more to point out for the other women in the thread that read this.
It was nice to have a cool calm dabate! star_smile.gif Shukran !

I think its good that our opinions can be said without bashing one anothers opinions. Thats style.

Edited by TamaraLovesAdam, 11 April 2009 - 02:01 AM.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 02:00:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
aha but... praying is a pillar in islam... hijab isnt.

to answer your question: praying is more important than hijab even do both of them are required. Muslima who wear hijab are most likely to pray but the muslima without hijab are less likely to pray even do they have good moral and inside. if you don't pray you are not a Muslim but if you don't wear hijab you are still a muslim that comit a sin and can be forgiven.



then that would be along the lines of the muslim men who pray but go out drinking, cursing and sleeping around. They are so good bcz they pray but the other stuff they do is commiting a sin and is forgiveable. Got it! star_smile.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
See thats the thing, I never said wearing hijab is wrong... NEVER said it. I just said its not for others to determine something that is between a woman and God. star_smile.gif got it now?
I dont believe its wrong, I believe its not a requirement. That is exactly what I've been saying the whole time.
and a side note... Hijab is not just for muslims, it is for christians as well. star_smile.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:45:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 02:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand that Cristian are very deverse and have too many bibles and church's, is there anything in the Bible that talks about Hijab? if so can you state?
in the Qoran we there is a clear Aya about Hijab Allah (swt) said wa9ol lilmouminaty yadribna bijlabibihina 3ala khomorihin wala yobdina zinatahona ila madahara minha.(saa) in Arabic. that's why no body can say Allah didn't Require hijab.
just like praying its one of the pellars of islam but a lot of muslims don't pray.


aha but... praying is a pillar in islam... hijab isnt. star_smile.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:42:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims

its a requirment for muslims only, and that's the Qoran never being change and no body can change it. wear hijab or not is up to the person, and at the day of judgment we will be on our own and our opinions won't matter.
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well, you just asked me about Nuns in the catholic churches so I answered you accordingly. . .
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and also to add, since our opinions dont matter in the end... then its doesnt make a difference if someone is wearing hijab or not bcz its between them and God. People need to stop trying to convince people they HAVE to wear it...
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:27:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims

its a requirment for muslims only, and that's the Qoran never being change and no body can change it. wear hijab or not is up to the person, and at the day of judgment we will be on our own and our opinions won't matter.
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well, you just asked me about Nuns in the catholic churches so I answered you accordingly. . .
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:24:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
the same (personal reason) that my mother wanted us daughters and herself in long flowing dresses and skirts. Not that it was a requirment by GOD for all christians but bcz it was a personal decision for Him by her. I was under her roof in her home, so I had to respect her decision even though it wasnt my own decision.

Same thing I believe for hijab. Its a personal decision from a woman to GOD. Its not between this woman and her cousin and this other woman and friend of hers and neighbor of hers and sister in law of hers.... bcz when all that goes on... then alot of judgemental attitudes generally will set in... such as ( oh I dress more modest than she does bcz my dress is longer, ect.)

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:16:00
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I think Hijab is a requirment, But if you live in non Muslim country and fear for your life or you may be hurrassed you don't have to wear it Allah(SWT) said in the Qoran WALA TARMO BI ANFOSIKOM ILA TAHLOKA means do not expose your self to danger.
Astrfiro Allah for any mistakes , its just my opinion


gotta post my thoughts on that... if hajab was required then God wouldnt have told you for fear of your life or possible harrassment its ok NOT to wear it. Then each woman could say at any point in life they are in fear of their life for X reason or for harrassment. It either IS or ISNT a requirment.

I'm not a scholar, that was my opinion. what do you think about it?



I grew up in a home that from the time I was 12-18, my mother believed that God wanted us to dress in dresses and skirts in modest apparel. My sister and I did it for 6 years while living in the home. So, i did grow up in a very modest appearance home. We also know that modesty is also inside as well.
I myself do NOT believe a headcovering is required. I do not even wear dresses all the time now BUT I do wholeheartedly believe in MODESTY. I believe I can be just as modest in pants and a shirt as well as a long flowing dress or skirt and that some could be in a dress and not modest on the inside.

Are you and your husband muslims and what does he think about Hijab?


No, but he grew up muslim. We are christians.
He thinks hijab is nearly hilarious bcz some women from around his flat would get nearly naked out on the roof/balcony for all to see when their husbands werent around... ( not very inward or outward modest) and he doesnt get why women where tons of makeup but wrap their hair up if the point is modesty.

Good to know you are not muslim but you still offering and sharing your opinion about hijab.
Do you think Nanes at the church should take there hijab since they are modest from the inside?


Im not catholic either. My opinion is that hijab is not a requirment by God. For personal reasons and for each individual situation is one thing... to try to say thats its a requirment by God and that every muslim and/or christian should wear it... no I dont buy that.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 01:11:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
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QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Hijab is a requirment, But if you live in non Muslim country and fear for your life or you may be hurrassed you don't have to wear it Allah(SWT) said in the Qoran WALA TARMO BI ANFOSIKOM ILA TAHLOKA means do not expose your self to danger.
Astrfiro Allah for any mistakes , its just my opinion


gotta post my thoughts on that... if hajab was required then God wouldnt have told you for fear of your life or possible harrassment its ok NOT to wear it. Then each woman could say at any point in life they are in fear of their life for X reason or for harrassment. It either IS or ISNT a requirment.

I'm not a scholar, that was my opinion. what do you think about it?



I grew up in a home that from the time I was 12-18, my mother believed that God wanted us to dress in dresses and skirts in modest apparel. My sister and I did it for 6 years while living in the home. So, i did grow up in a very modest appearance home. We also know that modesty is also inside as well.
I myself do NOT believe a headcovering is required. I do not even wear dresses all the time now BUT I do wholeheartedly believe in MODESTY. I believe I can be just as modest in pants and a shirt as well as a long flowing dress or skirt and that some could be in a dress and not modest on the inside.

Are you and your husband muslims and what does he think about Hijab?


No, but he grew up muslim. We are christians.
He thinks hijab is nearly hilarious bcz some women from around his flat would get nearly naked out on the roof/balcony for all to see when their husbands werent around... ( not very inward or outward modest) and he doesnt get why women where tons of makeup but wrap their hair up if the point is modesty.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 00:55:00
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QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TamaraLovesAdam @ Apr 11 2009, 01:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Hijab is a requirment, But if you live in non Muslim country and fear for your life or you may be hurrassed you don't have to wear it Allah(SWT) said in the Qoran WALA TARMO BI ANFOSIKOM ILA TAHLOKA means do not expose your self to danger.
Astrfiro Allah for any mistakes , its just my opinion


gotta post my thoughts on that... if hajab was required then God wouldnt have told you for fear of your life or possible harrassment its ok NOT to wear it. Then each woman could say at any point in life they are in fear of their life for X reason or for harrassment. It either IS or ISNT a requirment.

I'm not a scholar, that was my opinion. what do you think about it?



I grew up in a home that from the time I was 12-18, my mother believed that God wanted us to dress in dresses and skirts in modest apparel. My sister and I did it for 6 years while living in the home. So, i did grow up in a very modest appearance home. We also know that modesty is also inside as well.
I myself do NOT believe a headcovering is required. I do not even wear dresses all the time now BUT I do wholeheartedly believe in MODESTY. I believe I can be just as modest in pants and a shirt as well as a long flowing dress or skirt and that some could be in a dress and not modest on the inside.

Edited by TamaraLovesAdam, 11 April 2009 - 12:45 AM.

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 00:44:00
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QUOTE (adam1 @ Apr 11 2009, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Hijab is a requirment, But if you live in non Muslim country and fear for your life or you may be hurrassed you don't have to wear it Allah(SWT) said in the Qoran WALA TARMO BI ANFOSIKOM ILA TAHLOKA means do not expose your self to danger.
Astrfiro Allah for any mistakes , its just my opinion


gotta post my thoughts on that... if hajab was required then God wouldnt have told you for fear of your life or possible harrassment its ok NOT to wear it. Then each woman could say at any point in life they are in fear of their life for X reason or for harrassment. It either IS or ISNT a requirment.
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-11 00:25:00
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QUOTE (*Len* @ Apr 9 2009, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ Apr 9 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im a pervert. Before that I was a prevert.


rofl.gif GOOD one sister Nagi!!!


Dearest Nagi,

I will have to digest what you just said! laughing.gif
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-09 18:52:00
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QUOTE (Leyla @ Apr 7 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I meant by this:

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Islam is not just for Arabs. It's for everyone and anyone.


is.... I am a blonde haired blue eyed light skinned Muslim. Not a lot of people associate my look with Islam. As a blonde haired blue eyed light skinned Muslim I have shown many people that Islam is a religion for everyone and no one will be excluded (especially in America). It's like I'm an "undercover Muslim" and I'm proud to be able to help people come to Islam (Alhamdulillah).

I also feel that God still loves me even without a scarf on my head. I think that what matters the most is what is inside your heart. God knows. I think that in the end, God would be more concerned about my prayer, and my deeds toward other human beings. I also feel like if God would damn me to hell for not wearing a scarf, he is not the God I've read about and loved so deeply.
My heart lies in the hands of God. No one else has a say in my fate.


Good point!
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2009-04-07 20:08:00
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QUOTE (Staashi @ Jul 29 2008, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TamaraLovesAdam @ Jul 29 2008, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Afwan is Thank you


I know shukran is thank you. I'm looking for you're welcome. smile.gif

ooopssssss I meant welcome is afwan..... brain freeze early ! sorry Afwan is welcome ! Shukran is Thank you
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2008-07-29 10:01:00
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Afwan is Thank you
~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2008-07-29 09:49:00
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I don't think the hijab rule could really apply to a man, for them I think its all about actions.[/quote]
In Islam, the hijab rule applies to both. They have to cover themselves from, at the very least, navel to knees. The beard is also a must (some don't agree... depends on your school of thought I guess).
They also have to lower their gaze and not mix unnecessarily with non related women as a part of modesty.

IMHO, the fact that some women find beards attractive is not a reason for men not to wear them.... some men find women in hijab attractive.... there are veil-fetish-perverts all over the web! mad.gif but that doesn't mean women shouldn't wear it. (eta: the mad face is for the perverts not you lol)
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So, why would the beard be considered a must? There are alot of muslim men who either dont know that or dont believe that and what happens if they dont have a beard? and surely all men should lower their gaze but unfortuneately that doesnt happen all that often. I cant stand seeing a man staring at a woman so hard that their eyeballs crawl out and follow her ! And it happens in all cultures and religions!

~PalmTreeGurl~FemaleEgypt2008-07-25 19:50:00