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Russia, Ukraine and BelarusSome people are such big meanies!

Hot threads you say? Psycho lady you say?


http://www.visajourn...howtopic=244054

It brings nothing to the table when it comes to US immigration...
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2010-02-26 19:28:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusSome people are such big meanies!

The fastest lockdown in the history of VJ.

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What was done is wrong. Time for Captain eWok to intervene before it gets ugly. No reason to close any of the threads that were closed, and the one that MUST be closed (psycho lady in hot threads) is still open, even after many requests from member to have it closed.

Mox has probably been suspended...

Edited by Joe & Nadya, 26 February 2010 - 07:26 PM.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2010-02-26 19:24:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusAnniversary
Hello everyone in the RUB forum. It has been a while since the last time we were here....miss you guys...

Anyway, just here to say hello, howdy, share with you our immense happiness, and cheer with all of you the celebration of our 1st anniversary as a husband and wife. It has been nothing less than joy.

Happy anyversary my wonderful wife Nadiya!!!!

I love you with all my heart!!!

:-D

Joe.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2010-06-19 19:01:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusUkraine K-1 initial denial - next steps to fix
After reading this thread, as for me, I would send back this "automatic notification letter" to the Embassy and ask for English version with all her personal info ( birthdate, address, the full name, number of her international passport and case number ) and asked if an interview was held with your fiancee or not , if she was in the interview at all, on October 7th, 2010.

I have doubt she was in the interview at all. And this letter looks like a professional scammer letter for everybody. But it's just my opinion.

Nadiya.

Edited by Joe & Nadya, 12 October 2010 - 07:27 PM.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2010-10-12 19:25:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusWireless Internet or MiFI in Ukraine

Howdy All,

I'm going to be visiting Ukraine later this year, and I'll need to have a relatively continuous data connection while I'm there. Something like a MiFi would be great. I didnt really want a USB card, cuz then I have to have a laptop all the time. Verizon claims they have data coverage there, so I could add international data roaming (relatively cheap) to my android phone.... but I dont know if I trust their claim on it.

Does anybody have any experience with renting/buying a device like this (which provider?)? I can pick it up in Kiev, but I'll mostly be in Kirovograd.

Thanks in advance!
Mark


Mark,

It works just fine with Verizon...I went to Ukraine many times and was able to "work" using my blackberry as long as you have a SIMM card and a "global" plan with Verizon. In other words what they allowed me to do is change my plan to global while I was in Ukraine and change it back to a nationwide plan once I came back to the US. The phone calls back to the US were at a very low rate per minute but calls whithin Ukraine were like 0.99 per minute. Data is included in the Global plan btw.

Hope it helps.

Joe.

Edited by Joe & Nadya, 09 February 2011 - 02:05 PM.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2011-02-09 14:04:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusB-2 Visa documentation
Brad/Vika,

Long time don't talk, hope you guys are doing great....

To answer your question, we were able to get a B2 visa for my MIL, it took 3 attempts after they finally issued her a visa.

I did provide my MIL with an Affidavit of Support plus a letter of invitation (none of those were considered nor looked at during the interviews).

She brought to the interviews with her:
1) Proof of employment/income.
2) Proof of her retirement (yes, she is retired but still works).
3) Passport.

Like I said, it took 3 attempts until she finally got it and a couple of emails from me to the Embassy after the 2nd attempt was denied.

I'll ask Nadiya tonight if there any other documents.

Good luck.

Joe
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2012-02-20 15:38:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusUkraine airports VIP service??

I have a question regarding the VIP service in Odessa. I will be travelling to Odessa in August to get married to my long time fiancée and want to know if it better to use the VIP service this time. Last time i came to Ukraine i didn't know what the service was all about so i didn't use it. I also didn't have anything valuable on my either. This time i am bringing 2 wedding rings. I didn't have to buy my ring because it was handed down to my from my grandmother, but my fiancée's ring i bought for 200 Euro which is within the limit of (gifts). Does the VIP service help in getting through customs with less issues. The last thing i want to do is pay another TAX on something i have already paid for.


Robert,

Don't know if this helps, but the first time I went to Ukraine, I indeed use the VIP service but it did backfire on me as far as customs goes. I was taken to a separate building from the airport where I stood there for about almost 1 hour before a customs agent showed up (I guess I looked like a drug smuggler or something..LOL). He was in a bad mood so he made me take everything out of my suit case and I got "drilled". I did have a piece of jewelry with me and the only question asked about it was how much I paid for it. Once I showed the receipt, they let me go. Nice thing about it though was that right after customs, they gave me a bag of goodies with some chocolate and brandy as a welcome.

After the 1st trip, I went to Ukraine 8 more times and I never took the VIP service again, instead, I went through the "Nothing to Declare" line and never had problems with it. I have always gone through customs faster than the 1st time and always have had in my suit case, more than customs limits are. I have never been stopped nor had to pay taxes on it, never had to bribe anybody either. Now, that was back between 2006/2009.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2012-03-03 19:06:00
Mexico, Latin & South Americay despues que?
QUOTE (provec @ Apr 18 2009, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Buenos dias amigos, les comento que el 14 de abril enviamos la documentacion para ajuste de estado y quisiera saber si es posible hacerle seguimiento al proceso a traves de Internet, gracias por la colaboracion.


no creo q sy puedes, porque NVC no tiene nada online. Pero puedos estar enganado...
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-04-18 17:07:00
Mexico, Latin & South AmericaDeixando tudo pronto!
QUOTE (minme @ Oct 22 2009, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ola Gente...

Meu noivo e' americano e aplicaremos para o K1, ja preenchemos os fomularios e ja estamos enviando-os para o devido lugar. Minha duvida e' a seguinte: Ja faz 3 anos que nao vou ao Brasil portanto faz 3 anos que nao voto, nao mexi com nada disso, so meu CPF que eu regularizei todo ano. Estou temendo que por eu nao ter votado e nem justificado meu voto durante este tempo que estive fora, venha me causar algum tipo de problema no decorrer do processo de pegar o K1. Estou equivocada? Minha outra pergunta e' eu ainda estou fora do pais, moro em Paris e estou esperando eles marcarem a data da entrevista pra voltar pro Brasil. Seria melhor se eu voltasse pro Brasil faltando uns 2 meses para a entrevista? Talvez antes disso? E sobre os exames que tenho que fazer... Quais que eu posso fazer para adiantar as coisas?


Desde ja obrigada pela forca, qualquer informacao ja me sera muito util.


Voce votar ou nao e' algo para o conselho eleitoral no Brasil, nao tem nada a ver com o K-1 visa com o governo Norte Americano. O que voce ira' precisar com certeza e' o certificado de policia tanto da Franca quanto o do Brasil.

Quanto ao seu retorno ao Brasil, ira' depender. Se todos os formularios com o seus dados forem preenchidos com o endereco da Franca, entao a sua entrevista sera na Franca e nao no Brasil.
Joe.

Edited by Joe & Nadya, 22 October 2009 - 06:12 PM.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-10-22 18:10:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)Anyone have appointment for Interviews in February Kiev
our case were sent to NVC.. I don't think we will have interview in Feb or in March.. Still no news from NVC..
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-10 12:22:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)Mother in law visa
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Hello VJ members...

Quick question...Nadiya and I are making plans for our wedding here in the U.S. (church ceremony). We'd like very much for her mother to be able to attend it, however her mother is a PE teacher and doesn't have any property or a big bank account in Ukraine, therefore, I believe it will be extremely hard for her to get a tourist visa on her own. Question is, have any of you experienced the same type of situation?? and if so, will an Affidavit of Support letter be suficient to sustain her tourist visa application? r there any other options??? like I said before, she would be here only to visit, not to stay.

Thanks in advance guys. good.gif


Joe:

This is something we are looking into for my MIL. I have spoken to many couples, some VJ members, American/Ukrainian or Russian and all that have tried this reported success in getting 5 year visitor visas for parents. And yes, they did give affadavits of support. One woman even got visitor visas for her brother and his wife and they were all here last fall (parents, brother and sister-in-law) for a few weeks. The visa is 5 years, unlimited entries, 90 days per visit.

VJ member "B&Y" is one of these. I wish I could tell you more details but I am just beginning to get into that myself. I have heard good things if an affadavit is presented and/or if parents are over age 65.



Cool Gary, good info...althought my mother in law is not yet 65, I don't know what else I can do besides an Affidavit of support to bring her here. But it is good to hear that it is possible.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-04-18 17:30:00
Europe & Eurasia (except the UK and Russia)Mother in law visa
Hello VJ members...

Quick question...Nadiya and I are making plans for our wedding here in the U.S. (church ceremony). We'd like very much for her mother to be able to attend it, however her mother is a PE teacher and doesn't have any property or a big bank account in Ukraine, therefore, I believe it will be extremely hard for her to get a tourist visa on her own. Question is, have any of you experienced the same type of situation?? and if so, will an Affidavit of Support letter be suficient to sustain her tourist visa application? r there any other options??? like I said before, she would be here only to visit, not to stay.

Thanks in advance guys. good.gif

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-04-18 15:18:00
Asia: East and PacificAdjustment of Status please help
QUOTE (calilove @ Aug 16 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
another question , when and how should i apply social security number(SSN) for my fiancee?



Take your fiancee to the SS Administration office (either before or after you get married), make sure you bring her passport and I-94..Fill out the form there or download it from the internet and they will issue her a SS card. It should arrive in the mail after a couple of weeks tops...
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-08-16 13:14:00
Asia: East and Pacificwebsite to learn English.
QUOTE (hniHnitsuJ @ Jul 28 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is anyone knows a good website to learn English for grammar, spelling, sentences, and Vietnamese/English dictionary. Please share with me. Thank you.



www.webster.com

it even gives you the option to listen to the pronouciation of the words. It's a good starting point.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-07-28 11:22:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)NVC phone line
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we didn't call to NVC today yet, but usually we call closer to the end of working day..



Do you know when is the end of their working hours??



I don't know their exact time-table.. but we call around 4-5 pm
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-23 11:56:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)NVC phone line
we didn't call to NVC today yet, but usually we call closer to the end of working day..
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-23 11:50:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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I believe that I have read that NVC can send a case back to USCIS if there is a problem with a name check or something. I will defer to VJers with longer tenure than mine, but I seem to remember reading about a case that was returned because of a name problem or incomplete file. I agree that it is rare though.



that's why we hired a lawyer to avoid such little problems as mistakes in filling. We didn't talk to our lawyer yet and we wait what he will tell us WHY?

And Brad, you told before that someday Vika and you will go to Turkey smile.gif It's a good idea good.gif last summer we have planned it too but because of our little son we delayed it.. About western part of Ukraine, well, the best visiting time is winter because there is a wonderful place for skiing or in summer just make a tour of ancient cities. But I prefer the first whistling.gif


Cool. We went to Lviv in June, and had a week scheduled in Uzlissya resort. Vika got sick and we just stayed in Lviv. A great trip. We really wanted to visit Antalya in January too, but with Vika leaving for the US and all, her family needed the time.


I understand you.. we will go to my native town too, to visit my relatives before going to the US. But I think after marriage you can spend time on wonderful Miami beach wink.gif I am sure Vika will be happy to spend time there. About Antaliya, it's a good idea too, but since you have lived in the USA it will be easier to travel around USA than come back to Europe again. And Vika needs to get Advance Parol for traveling outside of the USA.


Antalya will be post-green card travel for sure. It is mostly me wanting to go there. I also want to see Istanbul, just to say I did it. Vika grew up next door, so Turkey just doesn't get her as excited.


what about Egypt? Dubai? Thailand?


Thailand is on the list, Dubai not so much (all we know is that it is HOT there tongue.gif ). Egypt is fascinating, but not really safe.


oh yes, specially after last terrorist's action sad.gif
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-26 16:10:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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I believe that I have read that NVC can send a case back to USCIS if there is a problem with a name check or something. I will defer to VJers with longer tenure than mine, but I seem to remember reading about a case that was returned because of a name problem or incomplete file. I agree that it is rare though.



that's why we hired a lawyer to avoid such little problems as mistakes in filling. We didn't talk to our lawyer yet and we wait what he will tell us WHY?

And Brad, you told before that someday Vika and you will go to Turkey smile.gif It's a good idea good.gif last summer we have planned it too but because of our little son we delayed it.. About western part of Ukraine, well, the best visiting time is winter because there is a wonderful place for skiing or in summer just make a tour of ancient cities. But I prefer the first whistling.gif


Cool. We went to Lviv in June, and had a week scheduled in Uzlissya resort. Vika got sick and we just stayed in Lviv. A great trip. We really wanted to visit Antalya in January too, but with Vika leaving for the US and all, her family needed the time.


I understand you.. we will go to my native town too, to visit my relatives before going to the US. But I think after marriage you can spend time on wonderful Miami beach wink.gif I am sure Vika will be happy to spend time there. About Antaliya, it's a good idea too, but since you have lived in the USA it will be easier to travel around USA than come back to Europe again. And Vika needs to get Advance Parol for traveling outside of the USA.


Antalya will be post-green card travel for sure. It is mostly me wanting to go there. I also want to see Istanbul, just to say I did it. Vika grew up next door, so Turkey just doesn't get her as excited.


what about Egypt? Dubai? Thailand?
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-25 16:23:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Feb 24 2009, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Joe & Nadya @ Feb 24 2009, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Feb 24 2009, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe that I have read that NVC can send a case back to USCIS if there is a problem with a name check or something. I will defer to VJers with longer tenure than mine, but I seem to remember reading about a case that was returned because of a name problem or incomplete file. I agree that it is rare though.



that's why we hired a lawyer to avoid such little problems as mistakes in filling. We didn't talk to our lawyer yet and we wait what he will tell us WHY?

And Brad, you told before that someday Vika and you will go to Turkey smile.gif It's a good idea good.gif last summer we have planned it too but because of our little son we delayed it.. About western part of Ukraine, well, the best visiting time is winter because there is a wonderful place for skiing or in summer just make a tour of ancient cities. But I prefer the first whistling.gif


Cool. We went to Lviv in June, and had a week scheduled in Uzlissya resort. Vika got sick and we just stayed in Lviv. A great trip. We really wanted to visit Antalya in January too, but with Vika leaving for the US and all, her family needed the time.


I understand you.. we will go to my native town too, to visit my relatives before going to the US. But I think after marriage you can spend time on wonderful Miami beach wink.gif I am sure Vika will be happy to spend time there. About Antaliya, it's a good idea too, but since you have lived in the USA it will be easier to travel around USA than come back to Europe again. And Vika needs to get Advance Parol for traveling outside of the USA.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-25 12:58:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Feb 24 2009, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe that I have read that NVC can send a case back to USCIS if there is a problem with a name check or something. I will defer to VJers with longer tenure than mine, but I seem to remember reading about a case that was returned because of a name problem or incomplete file. I agree that it is rare though.



that's why we hired a lawyer to avoid such little problems as mistakes in filling. We didn't talk to our lawyer yet and we wait what he will tell us WHY?

And Brad, you told before that someday Vika and you will go to Turkey smile.gif It's a good idea good.gif last summer we have planned it too but because of our little son we delayed it.. About western part of Ukraine, well, the best visiting time is winter because there is a wonderful place for skiing or in summer just make a tour of ancient cities. But I prefer the first whistling.gif
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-24 08:13:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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All,

Is this what I think it is ????? I got this letter in the mail today (I didn't check the mail box yesterday). Do you think we are out of Administrative Processing already ????????

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February 19,2009

Dear Petitioner:

The State Department's National Visa Center has recently received an approved I-129F petition filed on behalf of your finacee'. This letter is to let you know that within a week the petition will be forwared to the appropriate visa-issuing post where your visa interview will take place.

Our records show that you filed the I-129F petition for:

Name of Fiance': NADIYA

INS Receipt Number: EAC08244*****

Case Number: KEV2009******

The case will be processed at:

Post: KYIV
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES CONS
6 PIMONENKO STREET
KYIV, 01901
UKRAINE

Your finace' will soon receive a packet with instructions from the consular section on how to apply for the K1 visa at that post and what documents will be required. In the meantime, you should visit the Department of State's website at www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_4323.html to determine if the processing has any information of which you should be immediately aware.

Sincerely,

Bereau of Consular Affairs
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Well, Im sorry to say that I received 4 letters like that with all different dates and when i called they said we were in AP. I think that letter is generated as soon as the file is entered into the nvc system.
You should still call to check, but im afraid they will say you are still in AP. sad.gif
For your other question...I THINK it woudl be a rarity for NVC to find some reason to deny the petition after AP. Maybe if they found something wrong with your documents or something on the background checks that you didnt disclose...im just speculating though.
good luck



NVC cannot deny a K1 after approval. Once they get done mucking around they send it to the consulate. Approval or denial following interview happens there. So far, any of us in the main thread on K1's delayed at NVC who were released and sent on have had a successful interview.



yes, you are right. I am agree with you.. They have done and put case # for interview but just delay it to get some more additional info. just hope that all will be over pretty soon whistling.gif
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-24 04:17:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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All,

Is this what I think it is ????? I got this letter in the mail today (I didn't check the mail box yesterday). Do you think we are out of Administrative Processing already ????????

-------------------------------------------
February 19,2009

Dear Petitioner:

The State Department's National Visa Center has recently received an approved I-129F petition filed on behalf of your finacee'. This letter is to let you know that within a week the petition will be forwared to the appropriate visa-issuing post where your visa interview will take place.

Our records show that you filed the I-129F petition for:

Name of Fiance': NADIYA

INS Receipt Number: EAC08244*****

Case Number: KEV2009******

The case will be processed at:

Post: KYIV
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES CONS
6 PIMONENKO STREET
KYIV, 01901
UKRAINE

Your finace' will soon receive a packet with instructions from the consular section on how to apply for the K1 visa at that post and what documents will be required. In the meantime, you should visit the Department of State's website at www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_4323.html to determine if the processing has any information of which you should be immediately aware.

Sincerely,

Bereau of Consular Affairs
-------------------------------



Well, Im sorry to say that I received 4 letters like that with all different dates and when i called they said we were in AP. I think that letter is generated as soon as the file is entered into the nvc system.
You should still call to check, but im afraid they will say you are still in AP. sad.gif
For your other question...I THINK it woudl be a rarity for NVC to find some reason to deny the petition after AP. Maybe if they found something wrong with your documents or something on the background checks that you didnt disclose...im just speculating though.
good luck


are you still in AP too since 5th Jan?????? wacko.gif

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-24 04:13:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
QUOTE (Lisa wa Yazied @ Feb 22 2009, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Joe & Nadya @ Feb 22 2009, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All,

Is this what I think it is ????? I got this letter in the mail today (I didn't check the mail box yesterday). Do you think we are out of Administrative Processing already ????????

-------------------------------------------
February 19,2009

Dear Petitioner:

The State Department's National Visa Center has recently received an approved I-129F petition filed on behalf of your finacee'. This letter is to let you know that within a week the petition will be forwared to the appropriate visa-issuing post where your visa interview will take place.

Our records show that you filed the I-129F petition for:

Name of Fiance': NADIYA

INS Receipt Number: EAC08244*****

Case Number: KEV2009******

The case will be processed at:

Post: KYIV
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES CONS
6 PIMONENKO STREET
KYIV, 01901
UKRAINE

Your finace' will soon receive a packet with instructions from the consular section on how to apply for the K1 visa at that post and what documents will be required. In the meantime, you should visit the Department of State's website at www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_4323.html to determine if the processing has any information of which you should be immediately aware.

Sincerely,

Bereau of Consular Affairs
-------------------------------



Well, Im sorry to say that I received 4 letters like that with all different dates and when i called they said we were in AP. I think that letter is generated as soon as the file is entered into the nvc system.
You should still call to check, but im afraid they will say you are still in AP. sad.gif
For your other question...I THINK it woudl be a rarity for NVC to find some reason to deny the petition after AP. Maybe if they found something wrong with your documents or something on the background checks that you didnt disclose...im just speculating though.
good luck


We've disclosed every little detail....I guess we'll continue on waiting.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-22 12:15:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
All,

Is this what I think it is ????? I got this letter in the mail today (I didn't check the mail box yesterday). Do you think we are out of Administrative Processing already ????????

-------------------------------------------
February 19,2009

Dear Petitioner:

The State Department's National Visa Center has recently received an approved I-129F petition filed on behalf of your finacee'. This letter is to let you know that within a week the petition will be forwared to the appropriate visa-issuing post where your visa interview will take place.

Our records show that you filed the I-129F petition for:

Name of Fiance': NADIYA

INS Receipt Number: EAC08244*****

Case Number: KEV2009******

The case will be processed at:

Post: KYIV
EMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES CONS
6 PIMONENKO STREET
KYIV, 01901
UKRAINE

Your finace' will soon receive a packet with instructions from the consular section on how to apply for the K1 visa at that post and what documents will be required. In the meantime, you should visit the Department of State's website at www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_4323.html to determine if the processing has any information of which you should be immediately aware.

Sincerely,

Bereau of Consular Affairs
-------------------------------
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-22 11:56:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
according to the NVC site and other people who crossed it too, I don't think that we will have results next week or so.. minimum is 1 month.. sad.gif I thought that in April we fly there.. but... ehhhhh...it's sad..
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 14:03:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Thank you all for supporting and understanding our situation! it's really hard to be apart so long.. we hoped that processing at Vermont is the longest time for waiting and all is over, but we were mistaken.. now NVC is on the way.,I have read all your comments here and I understood that period from late 2008 till early 2009 was hard.. and many people were stuck in AP this time, maybe it took so long because of holidays? And Vermont was very slow this time.. wacko.gif Maybe now it will take less time and they will check background qucklier???

and I also have scare question... can the petition be denied after AP? and why? I do scare answer this question ohmy.gif

Thank you!

Nadya.


If I understand your question, you want to know if after advance parole (being allowed to leave the US and travel abroad - then returning to the US without a status change), your visa petition can still be denied? Advance parole comes after the visa is granted - so no. But it is possible, though not likely, that you could still be denied a green card after getting the visa and AP.

no Brad, I mean the case can be denied after administrative processing.. at NVC or not?


Ah, different AP - I knew I was missing something laughing.gif The answer is still yes, but unlikely if your paperwork was complete and correct. Sometimes the delay is caused by the same or a similar name turning up during a name check or something. It takes a little longer to sort out if that happens, and sometimes requires more information. Don't be too discouraged by it, so long as everybody has a clean record, and all relevant information was disclosed.


to have case with correct info and not get RFE or something like this, we have hired a lawyer.. and thought that we could go through this long process without problems.. but right now you can see it doesn't matter if you have lawyer or not.


True. Lawyers usually just charge a lot of money, and don't really add too much value to a K visa from what I can tell. DId you get an RFE for something specific?


no, we didn't have any RFE or touches.. it was approved without anything.. and have to wait eternity at NVC sad.gif

Did NVC offer any explanation at all? Maybe call them and ask what the problem is. If you can't get answers, maybe get your Congressman involved.


they said nothing, just gave KEV# on Tuesday and asked to call back on Friday.. we did and we were said our case are in Administrative processing and call them back in 1 or 2 weeks.


Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 13:38:00
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Thank you all for supporting and understanding our situation! it's really hard to be apart so long.. we hoped that processing at Vermont is the longest time for waiting and all is over, but we were mistaken.. now NVC is on the way.,I have read all your comments here and I understood that period from late 2008 till early 2009 was hard.. and many people were stuck in AP this time, maybe it took so long because of holidays? And Vermont was very slow this time.. wacko.gif Maybe now it will take less time and they will check background qucklier???

and I also have scare question... can the petition be denied after AP? and why? I do scare answer this question ohmy.gif

Thank you!

Nadya.


If I understand your question, you want to know if after advance parole (being allowed to leave the US and travel abroad - then returning to the US without a status change), your visa petition can still be denied? Advance parole comes after the visa is granted - so no. But it is possible, though not likely, that you could still be denied a green card after getting the visa and AP.

no Brad, I mean the case can be denied after administrative processing.. at NVC or not?


Ah, different AP - I knew I was missing something laughing.gif The answer is still yes, but unlikely if your paperwork was complete and correct. Sometimes the delay is caused by the same or a similar name turning up during a name check or something. It takes a little longer to sort out if that happens, and sometimes requires more information. Don't be too discouraged by it, so long as everybody has a clean record, and all relevant information was disclosed.


to have case with correct info and not get RFE or something like this, we have hired a lawyer.. and thought that we could go through this long process without problems.. but right now you can see it doesn't matter if you have lawyer or not.


True. Lawyers usually just charge a lot of money, and don't really add too much value to a K visa from what I can tell. DId you get an RFE for something specific?


no, we didn't have any RFE or touches.. it was approved without anything.. and have to wait eternity at NVC sad.gif

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 12:29:00
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Thank you all for supporting and understanding our situation! it's really hard to be apart so long.. we hoped that processing at Vermont is the longest time for waiting and all is over, but we were mistaken.. now NVC is on the way.,I have read all your comments here and I understood that period from late 2008 till early 2009 was hard.. and many people were stuck in AP this time, maybe it took so long because of holidays? And Vermont was very slow this time.. wacko.gif Maybe now it will take less time and they will check background qucklier???

and I also have scare question... can the petition be denied after AP? and why? I do scare answer this question ohmy.gif

Thank you!

Nadya.


If I understand your question, you want to know if after advance parole (being allowed to leave the US and travel abroad - then returning to the US without a status change), your visa petition can still be denied? Advance parole comes after the visa is granted - so no. But it is possible, though not likely, that you could still be denied a green card after getting the visa and AP.

no Brad, I mean the case can be denied after administrative processing.. at NVC or not?


Ah, different AP - I knew I was missing something laughing.gif The answer is still yes, but unlikely if your paperwork was complete and correct. Sometimes the delay is caused by the same or a similar name turning up during a name check or something. It takes a little longer to sort out if that happens, and sometimes requires more information. Don't be too discouraged by it, so long as everybody has a clean record, and all relevant information was disclosed.


to have case with correct info and not get RFE or something like this, we have hired a lawyer.. and thought that we could go through this long process without problems.. but right now you can see it doesn't matter if you have lawyer or not.

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 12:12:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Thank you all for supporting and understanding our situation! it's really hard to be apart so long.. we hoped that processing at Vermont is the longest time for waiting and all is over, but we were mistaken.. now NVC is on the way.,I have read all your comments here and I understood that period from late 2008 till early 2009 was hard.. and many people were stuck in AP this time, maybe it took so long because of holidays? And Vermont was very slow this time.. wacko.gif Maybe now it will take less time and they will check background qucklier???

and I also have scare question... can the petition be denied after AP? and why? I do scare answer this question ohmy.gif

Thank you!

Nadya.


If I understand your question, you want to know if after advance parole (being allowed to leave the US and travel abroad - then returning to the US without a status change), your visa petition can still be denied? Advance parole comes after the visa is granted - so no. But it is possible, though not likely, that you could still be denied a green card after getting the visa and AP.

no Brad, I mean the case can be denied after administrative processing.. at NVC or not?

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 10:58:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
ohhhh.. it's gonna be very long.. I have found some info about processing time at NVC.. It doesn't depend on holidays at all crying.gif

http://travel.state....m...p;x=102&y=8
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 09:14:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
Thank you all for supporting and understanding our situation! it's really hard to be apart so long.. we hoped that processing at Vermont is the longest time for waiting and all is over, but we were mistaken.. now NVC is on the way.,I have read all your comments here and I understood that period from late 2008 till early 2009 was hard.. and many people were stuck in AP this time, maybe it took so long because of holidays? And Vermont was very slow this time.. wacko.gif Maybe now it will take less time and they will check background qucklier???

and I also have scare question... can the petition be denied after AP? and why? I do scare answer this question ohmy.gif

Thank you!

Nadya.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-21 07:51:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Thank you for your words of support. I try to be in Ukraine as much as I can...last year alone, I was there 4 times...in one occasion it was a 3 day weekend just for our son's 1st birthday....

I am starting to wonder if I should start considering moving there until this entire case is resolved...

Joe


LOL, I was feeling the same. I was there 6 times in 10 months, once for three days also. The driver I use was convinced I am absolutely out of my mind.

Anyway, best of luck


Only three times for me - but I was back in January (technically four in twelve months). And Gary's driver is correct - we are all a little nuts to do it - in a good way.


hehehehe...I guess we all are....;-)

Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:38:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Thank you for your words of support. I try to be in Ukraine as much as I can...last year alone, I was there 4 times...in one occasion it was a 3 day weekend just for our son's 1st birthday....

I am starting to wonder if I should start considering moving there until this entire case is resolved...

Joe


LOL, I was feeling the same. I was there 6 times in 10 months, once for three days also. The driver I use was convinced I am absolutely out of my mind.

Anyway, best of luck


Were you in Kiev for that period of time (6 in 10 months).... ???? Geee... I thought I was the only freak here :-D good.gif laughing.gif


P.s:... were you ever there for a weekend ?!?!?!
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:26:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Where in Ukraine do you visit? Do you travel together?

Brad,

My Fiancee and son are living in Kiev. However she was born in Stakhanov...lovely little town though. :-D


If you have to visit again before processing is complete, I recommend a trip to Lvov if you haven't been. Great family place - very kid friendly and won't break the bank either. smile.gif


Wow.... that's the West part of Ukraine.... where they actually speak Ukrainian.. :-D I was fortunate enough to only go to Stakhanov which is near Lugansk - East (near the Russian border)..It was an 18 hour trip on a train...but guess what ?!?!??!!?! I enjoyed every single minute of it. :-D It brings back good memories of almost 2 years ago when I was there to see her family for the first time....geeeee...talk about being nervous...


I understand. I spent my last birthday with Viktoria's family. It was kind of a "here is a great reason for all the relatives to come check you out". They were awesome, and I had a great time. I have to say that I am not a big fan of the night train though. Guess I am too spoiled laughing.gif


hehehehehe...you said it all my brother...hehehehehehehehe

2 hour flight is awesome....;-)


There you go kicking.gif kicking.gif We are still dreaming about visiting Turkey when Vika completes AOS. I wanted to go during this last visit, but she planned all our time out with her family (understandably). Her parents did come all the way to Kiev to give a formal blessing before we left - under an Orthodox icon and everything. Very moving, and I was VERY happy not to take the night train to Kherson kicking.gif


I understand..we are planning on going to Stakhanov for a week (after the visa is approved) to get the formal blessing and under your same situation and etc, before moving here
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:21:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Yes it will be.... good.gif

BTW...I was looking at your timelines and I have a question

"December 10 -08 Packet three sent on the basis of having NVC case number"

Does that mean you were still on AP at NVC and you sent all the documents to the Embassy regardless ???



It does! I had even had the medical and we were still in AP.

I was in email contact with someone at the consulate here, and once NVC had given me the new case number, I emailed that to them, and they sent the packet out. There are instructions of parts that you can send back at once, so I sent them the first bits back, had the medical done, and all the other paperwork ready to go by the time NVC sent the case on. That way, once they had the electronic file, and even before the actual case had arrived here, I was able to send back the paper you sign that says you have all the documents and can go ahead an set an interview.

After getting hung up sooooo long at NVC, I was in a bit of a hurry, so I am glad I had it all ready, and didn't have to wait for anything else.


so....another dumb question....I already have an NVC case number which is KEV- something, does that mean that it will be given another case number before it goes to the embassy ???

reason why I am asking is because we kind of "jumped the gun" and already scheduled an appointment for the medical..(US Embassy in Ukraine gives you a download option for packet 3 with a list of documents and procedures necessary for the interview), and set it up for mid March...Also, I started gathering all my IRS transcripts, affidavit of support updates, 1099-s, W2s, the works, proof of relantionship, etc, etc, etc, even though our case is still in AP at NVC... so, with all of that said, should I forward all this documentation to the Embassy regardless of what NVC says ?


No..the KEV is the number the embassy will go by. I just meant that after VSC you get a new number at the NVC...good night...I wonder why we don't have the same one all the way through!

I wouldn't send it to them just yet, but I would email them for sure, so they are aware of you, they may be happy to have packet 3 back now, but remember every embassy is different in the way they like to do things. Make sure that when she goes for her medical, she puts the KEV number on it, so it relates to your case.


Having all of the transcripts and paperwork ready to go is excellent, you will send that to Nadya so she can have it for her interview. It will be a big help when they finally send your case on, that you are all ready to go!


thank you soooooo much for the info....you have no idea how much your experience going through the same process has eased my mind .....
THANK YOU !!!!!


Oh no worries, glad to help, and commiserate smile.gif There is usually someone around who can help, and you 'll be in good company.

Your avatar is the cutest little lad I've seen in ages yes.gif All the best to you, and I hope it goes quickly!


Thank you , thank you thank you for calling our little son cute...we call him, "our little lazy butt", since he loves sleeping !!!!!!! Ohh boy...he loves cars....he is a car freak... !!!! :-D
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:18:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Where in Ukraine do you visit? Do you travel together?

Brad,

My Fiancee and son are living in Kiev. However she was born in Stakhanov...lovely little town though. :-D


If you have to visit again before processing is complete, I recommend a trip to Lvov if you haven't been. Great family place - very kid friendly and won't break the bank either. smile.gif


Wow.... that's the West part of Ukraine.... where they actually speak Ukrainian.. :-D I was fortunate enough to only go to Stakhanov which is near Lugansk - East (near the Russian border)..It was an 18 hour trip on a train...but guess what ?!?!??!!?! I enjoyed every single minute of it. :-D It brings back good memories of almost 2 years ago when I was there to see her family for the first time....geeeee...talk about being nervous...


I understand. I spent my last birthday with Viktoria's family. It was kind of a "here is a great reason for all the relatives to come check you out". They were awesome, and I had a great time. I have to say that I am not a big fan of the night train though. Guess I am too spoiled laughing.gif


hehehehehe...you said it all my brother...hehehehehehehehe

2 hour flight is awesome....;-)
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:14:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Yes it will be.... good.gif

BTW...I was looking at your timelines and I have a question

"December 10 -08 Packet three sent on the basis of having NVC case number"

Does that mean you were still on AP at NVC and you sent all the documents to the Embassy regardless ???



It does! I had even had the medical and we were still in AP.

I was in email contact with someone at the consulate here, and once NVC had given me the new case number, I emailed that to them, and they sent the packet out. There are instructions of parts that you can send back at once, so I sent them the first bits back, had the medical done, and all the other paperwork ready to go by the time NVC sent the case on. That way, once they had the electronic file, and even before the actual case had arrived here, I was able to send back the paper you sign that says you have all the documents and can go ahead an set an interview.

After getting hung up sooooo long at NVC, I was in a bit of a hurry, so I am glad I had it all ready, and didn't have to wait for anything else.


so....another dumb question....I already have an NVC case number which is KEV- something, does that mean that it will be given another case number before it goes to the embassy ???

reason why I am asking is because we kind of "jumped the gun" and already scheduled an appointment for the medical..(US Embassy in Ukraine gives you a download option for packet 3 with a list of documents and procedures necessary for the interview), and set it up for mid March...Also, I started gathering all my IRS transcripts, affidavit of support updates, 1099-s, W2s, the works, proof of relantionship, etc, etc, etc, even though our case is still in AP at NVC... so, with all of that said, should I forward all this documentation to the Embassy regardless of what NVC says ?


No..the KEV is the number the embassy will go by. I just meant that after VSC you get a new number at the NVC...good night...I wonder why we don't have the same one all the way through!

I wouldn't send it to them just yet, but I would email them for sure, so they are aware of you, they may be happy to have packet 3 back now, but remember every embassy is different in the way they like to do things. Make sure that when she goes for her medical, she puts the KEV number on it, so it relates to your case.


Having all of the transcripts and paperwork ready to go is excellent, you will send that to Nadya so she can have it for her interview. It will be a big help when they finally send your case on, that you are all ready to go!


thank you soooooo much for the info....you have no idea how much your experience going through the same process has eased my mind .....
THANK YOU !!!!!
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:07:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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Where in Ukraine do you visit? Do you travel together?

Brad,

My Fiancee and son are living in Kiev. However she was born in Stakhanov...lovely little town though. :-D


If you have to visit again before processing is complete, I recommend a trip to Lvov if you haven't been. Great family place - very kid friendly and won't break the bank either. smile.gif


Wow.... that's the West part of Ukraine.... where they actually speak Ukrainian.. :-D I was fortunate enough to only go to Stakhanov which is near Lugansk - East (near the Russian border)..It was an 18 hour trip on a train...but guess what ?!?!??!!?! I enjoyed every single minute of it. :-D It brings back good memories of almost 2 years ago when I was there to see her family for the first time....geeeee...talk about being nervous...
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 22:03:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
QUOTE (Brad and Vika @ Feb 20 2009, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where in Ukraine do you visit? Do you travel together?

Brad,

My Fiancee and son are living in Kiev. However she was born in Stakhanov...lovely little town though. :-D
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 21:56:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)Administrative Processing at the NVC
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I think the KEV# stays with the file from here on out.


I thought so too.
Joe & NadyaMaleUkraine2009-02-20 21:49:00