Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Are these enough supporting doc for I-134?	QUOTE (pushbrk @ Dec 2 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (MARM @ Nov 29 2008, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Including with I-134: 1. Last 3 years' tax returns 2. Last 3 years' W-2's 3. Letter from employer 4. Do I need to add pay stubs or a letter from the bank? If I do need to include a letter from the bank, what point should it cover? If I do need to include pay stubs, how far back should they go? If your income is sufficient, leave all asset related questions blank and skip the bank letter. Add a few recent pay stubs. If you need to disclose assets (because your income isn't sufficient) then do include the bank letter. Ok, but is there any harm in including bank assets even though income is more than sufficient? I mean can disclosing too much have negative consequences?	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-02 19:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Are these enough supporting doc for I-134?	QUOTE (Anh map @ Nov 29 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The i-134 instructions give you the info needed from your bank. Most banks can turn these around quickly. Yes, thank you. Sometimes the obvious is forgotten when thinking about the more complicated things ...of course...the I-134 has instructions with it.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-11-30 16:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Are these enough supporting doc for I-134?	Including with I-134: 1. Last 3 years' tax returns 2. Last 3 years' W-2's 3. Letter from employer 4. Do I need to add pay stubs or a letter from the bank? If I do need to include a letter from the bank, what point should it cover? If I do need to include pay stubs, how far back should they go? Edited by MARM, 29 November 2008 - 03:26 PM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-11-29 15:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Anyone ever use "K1 visa journey" services	QUOTE (KimandRuss @ Dec 3 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We all feel that way. However, keep in mind that a great majority of those 'mistakes' we see are made by these so-called 'experts'. Of course, it's your decision to make but nobody is going to work for you as well as YOU. I agree. And don't remember the member name, but there is someone here that hired a lawyer and the lawyer made 10+ mistakes on their I-129F that they had to correct after their file was sent to USCIS. They were the ones that ended up making the corrections and speaking to someone at USCIS about them, not the lawyer. They have gotten their NOA2, but I am sure it caused a lot of hassle for them. Just offering another side of the picture in terms of hiring lawyers/people who have experience with the paperwork.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-03 16:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Anyone ever use "K1 visa journey" services	QUOTE (MARM @ Dec 3 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (rockhouse @ Dec 3 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just got through visiting a website called "K1 Visa Journey". They charge like $485 to do the whole thing for you. They say they have a 100% acceptance rate. Anyone ever deal with them, or know anyone that has? Thanks. I don't know about the one you are talking about, but I hired k1k3visas.com Immigration Docs, and they seem to be okay, I mean no problems so far...they also gaurantee approval 100% or money back, not sure if that means approval at interview of approval of I-129F, and they charged $500.00 for the service, also continues to AOS and so forth once in the US at no additional charges. (I do have to get the embassy changed and am stuck on that, but otherwise, no problems with Immigration Docs) I just wanted to add..I would have rather done it myself than hired anyone. The process just requires you to invest time and do research, which you should be doing anyway even if you did hire someone. So in conclusion: It's better to do the process yourself, lawyers/attorneys/any such parties do not make the process any faster or cause a quicker approval, if that is what you are concerned about. Good luck! Edited by MARM, 03 December 2008 - 04:33 PM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-03 16:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Anyone ever use "K1 visa journey" services	QUOTE (rockhouse @ Dec 3 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just got through visiting a website called "K1 Visa Journey". They charge like $485 to do the whole thing for you. They say they have a 100% acceptance rate. Anyone ever deal with them, or know anyone that has? Thanks. I don't know about the one you are talking about, but I hired k1k3visas.com Immigration Docs, and they seem to be okay, I mean no problems so far...they also gaurantee approval 100% or money back, not sure if that means approval at interview of approval of I-129F, and they charged $500.00 for the service, also continues to AOS and so forth once in the US at no additional charges. (I do have to get the embassy changed and am stuck on that, but otherwise, no problems with Immigration Docs) Edited by MARM, 03 December 2008 - 04:27 PM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-03 16:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How long is the notarization valid?	Thanks!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-05 16:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How long is the notarization valid?	My fiance does not have an official birth certificate and neither is there one registered for him that he can make a request for. Some people have given me information and I have also done some research myself that says that in lieu of the birth certificate, my fiance can provide his school certificates stating parents' names and d.o.b. as well as a sworn affidavit from my fiance's mother stating parent's names, place of birth, and d.o.b. My question relates to the Affidavit that my fiance's mother will prepare, it needs to be notarized so my question is how long is that notarization valid? We are planning on asking her to do it in about 2 weeks, but we have not received our NOA2 yet, so we want to know how long the notarization is valid? Does it never become invalid or is there some time limit for the notarization?	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-04 22:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NAME CRISIS!	Never mind! I took care of the issue...	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-06 14:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	NAME CRISIS!	Ok, so my fiance is a Pakistani citizen. I just realized that on his passport his father's first name has an addition that is not included in the I-129F we filed. Pakistan passports include father's name of the passport holder.The name is the same but his name has a title before his first name on his passport and that title we did not include on the I-129F form where they asked for his father's name. And right now, my fiance's mother is preparing an notarized affidavit in lieu of his birth certificate, and we are confused as to what name she should put down as my husband's father's name. To illustrate what I mean: This is how my fiance's father's name looks on my fiance's passport: Abdul FXXXXXX LXXXX This is how my fiance's father's name appears on the I-129F: FXXXXXX LXXXX So how should my fiance's father's name appear on the document we will be presenting in lieu of the birth certificate? Should it be how it appears on the I-129F or how it appears in my fiance's passport? Thanks so much in advance to those that can help me out here!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-05 22:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	lawyer or not?	We hired an attorney for our K-1 process, and found this site about 3 months later, wish we had found this site sooner... The attorney is not giving us any problems, was pretty smooth in the process and quick in terms of time to get things done properly, but we could have saved $500 if we found this site earlier. Everything is explained well in the guides, and if you have any questions, ask away! Also, I would like to quote our much-loved moderator KimandRuss here: "...it's your decision to make but nobody is going to work for you as well as YOU." Best of luck, and the VJ family is always here for you!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-04 21:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Leafil Alforque		MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-07 01:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Wait times	QUOTE (Trepko @ Dec 7 2008, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (MARM @ Dec 7 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Trepko @ Dec 7 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What if this is just an if the petitioner (I) lives with his/her parents? It does not matter whether the petitioner lives with his/her parents or not, this fact has nothing to do with the wait times for NOA2. No I mean would that hurt us in any way? Sorry for not being clear. No, it does not hurt in anyway, I am the petitioner and I live with my parents as well. Its ok for not being clear, the more you ask, the more answers you get! Good luck!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-07 01:18:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Wait times	QUOTE (Trepko @ Dec 7 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What if this is just an if the petitioner (I) lives with his/her parents? It does not matter whether the petitioner lives with his/her parents or not, this fact has nothing to do with the wait times for NOA2.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-07 01:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Wait times	QUOTE (Trepko @ Dec 7 2008, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I sent in my I-129F in October 10, 2008 recieved my NOA1 on October 20. It's December of 2008 and I still have no NOA2 or anything. Is this normal? Or am I waiting longer than normal? Yes, it is totally normal that you did not get your NOA2 yet. Refer to processing times for the USCIS Service center you applied to (CSC is within 6 months and VSC is around all those filed since March). And if you have not realized, look at everyone's time-lines and IGOR's list statistics, currently July filers are being processed, there are still August, September filers to go before October filers. Hang on tight, there is still some more time to go for October filers! Fill in your time line so that you can get an estimate of when to expect your NOA2 for your I-129F. Edited by MARM, 07 December 2008 - 01:10 AM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-07 01:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	All those who never received hard-copy of NOA1	QUOTE (GreatWhiteNorth @ Dec 8 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (MARM @ Dec 3 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just wanted to know if there people here that never received a hard-copy of NOA1 but had no problem getting the hard-copy of NOA2 (got their NOA2 on time, without making any calls to USCIS centers). I know that the hard-copy of NOA2 is necessary during AOS, and that NOA1 is not necessary. I never got a copy of my NOA1, I had to beat on my lawyer to get a copy. I called the CSC and was assured that copies were sent to both of us and the US Postal Service was blamed for the loss... Not sure I buy that but oh well... I told them I really wanted a copy of the NOA2 when it was sent so I guess I wait and see if they can get one to me. I also had them double check the address and all spellings and all of that was correct. So now I sit on pins and needles... GWN I know, its agonizing that they cannot even mail a letter to you properly, considering its the USCIS...good luck and post back when there are any updates. I never got my NOA1 the first time around, I had to call twice to get it, and now hopefully they will send my NOA2 the right way first time around. I will post back with an update also. -MARM	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-08 21:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	All those who never received hard-copy of NOA1	Just wanted to know if there people here that never received a hard-copy of NOA1 but had no problem getting the hard-copy of NOA2 (got their NOA2 on time, without making any calls to USCIS centers). I know that the hard-copy of NOA2 is necessary during AOS, and that NOA1 is not necessary.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-03 14:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	U.S Citizen / Pakistani Fiance	QUOTE (Naina @ Oct 6 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So you're saying filing for him as a fiance would be quicker (how quick ? 2 months ? ) but if I decide to stay in Pakistan for 6 months or so ..would getting married there be a quicker process to get my husband fly back with me to the U.S ? and can i file for him as my spouse from pakistan also or do I need to be in U.S to do this ? It would be quicker filing for him as a fiance, but I cannot tell you exact in months, but you can look at the time lines of people filing for Pakistani fiance/fiancee here on VJ. If you get married, the process will surely take longer than the K-1 route. If you are going to file for him while in Pakistan, you need to be a resident of Pakistan for 6 months or more to do DCF. As far as time process, it would be quicker to file K-1 with you here and him in Pakistan, but let me advise you also that although your petition for fiance (I-129F) may be approved here in the US quickly (within 6 months of filing), there is a very high chance that your fiance will have to undergo Administrative Processing after his interview in Islamabad, Pakistan, as unfortunately, Pakistan is one of the high-fraud countries on the list. Please browse through the regional forums (South Asia) as well and post your questions for more specific answers. Best of luck!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-07 00:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Proof that one is SINGLE	QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Dec 10 2008, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (MARM @ Dec 10 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Dec 10 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some consulates like China, and Philippines require this London does NOT. http://london.usemba.../ds2001.html#mc Yes, I was reading this on the "Candle for Love" forum. I was just wondering how a USCitizen gets a single certificate since I have never heard of them here in the USA> Typically one is only needed if the US citizen will marry in China, they get one at a US consulate in China, or they can get a document from their local health department in the USA that indicates this, and they then get it certified by a Chinese consulate in the USA. US citizen does not need to provide one for a K-Visa interview in China, only the Chinese citizen needs to provide one. I see. Thanks for the info!	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 23:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Proof that one is SINGLE	QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Dec 10 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some consulates like China, and Philippines require this London does NOT. http://london.usemba.../ds2001.html#mc Yes, I was reading this on the "Candle for Love" forum. I was just wondering how a USCitizen gets a single certificate since I have never heard of them here in the USA>	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 22:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Proof that one is SINGLE	There are marriage certificates, and divorce decrees.... Is there a such a thing as a "single" certificate for USCitizens? I was reading in a separate forum where someone was advised to get a certificate stating that they were single, because the pictures they were planning on showing at the K-1 interview were engagement ceremony pics and they were afraid of them being mistaken for marriage pictures... If "single" certificates do exist in the USA, how does one go about obtaining one? Just curious.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 22:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Divorce Decree of Petitioner	QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Dec 10 2008, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (MARM @ Dec 10 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In the state I live in, you can get multiple original copies of divorce decrees (have to pay depending on how many pages each) so it was not a problem for me to send an original one. I know it sounds weird when I say multiple ORIGINAL copies are easily available, but what I mean to say is that I got one original copy sent to me and directions on how to obtain more certified copies, and when I did get more certified copies for myself and for the I-129F, I saw that they all looked identical to the original: embossed, stamped, and officially signed by judge and court clerk. So that is why I sent with I-129F an original divorce decree to the USCIS. ( I have two more identical copies/originals sitting at home). Actually there is only one "Original" any others are Certified copies. The original is the exact same as the certified copies in appearance and seals/signs. There is no difference that I see that can differentiate the original from the certified.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 23:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Divorce Decree of Petitioner	In the state I live in, you can get multiple original copies of divorce decrees (have to pay depending on how many pages each) so it was not a problem for me to send an original one. I know it sounds weird when I say multiple ORIGINAL copies are easily available, but what I mean to say is that I got one original copy sent to me and directions on how to obtain more certified copies, and when I did get more certified copies for myself and for the I-129F, I saw that they all looked identical to the original: embossed, stamped, and officially signed by judge and court clerk. So that is why I sent with I-129F an original divorce decree to the USCIS. ( I have two more identical copies/originals sitting at home). Edited by MARM, 10 December 2008 - 10:23 PM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 22:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Divorce Decree of Petitioner	I wanted to add that the ORIGINAL (stamped, embossed, official) divorce decree of the petitioner's was included in the original filed I-129F. So does the CO have the originally filed I-129F at the time of interview? Because if that is the case, the ORIGINAL divorce decree will be included with it then. Edited by MARM, 10 December 2008 - 10:05 PM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 22:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Divorce Decree of Petitioner	I understand that the beneficiary/applicant's divorce decree is necessary to present to the CO at time of interview. But I want to know, if the petitioner is divorced, is the divorce decree of the petitioner required for the beneficiary's interview? The beneficiary is interviewing in London for K-1 visa. Should he also take along the petitioner's divorce decree with the rest of the documents that are required?	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-10 21:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Documents/Preparations	QUOTE (Nich-Nick @ Dec 14 2008, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That sounds very thorough. I would suggest that you include something to show your mother is a USC like her birth certificate or biographical page of her passport (photocopies). It would support her statement of citizenship in question 1 of the I-134. The Affidavit of Support I-864 for AOS often generates RFEs because, while the financials and documentation are adequate, there is nothing to prove that the co-sponsor is a USC. So the applicant gets an RFE to send the proof. It's going the "extra mile" for just a K1 interview and an I-134, but you sound like you want to cover your bases well because of him being a non-British citizen going through London. You sound like you're doing a lot of research and are keeping very organized. Well done. Good luck to you. Thank you for replying! Yes, I am including a copy of my mother's naturalization certificate as proof of her citizenship. I will keep this in mind for the AOS also.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-14 15:32:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Documents/Preparations	QUOTE (Nich-Nick @ Dec 14 2008, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would make sure that the Affidavit of Support is letter perfect with lots of supporting evidence. That is something they scrutinize no matter what the intending immigrant's ethnicity. Your relationship evidence sounds very complete. My mother is the co-sponsor since I am a full-time student. She makes 6X more than the minimum required for K-1, and has two dependents. She files joint taxes with my father (they are both married), but is co-sponsoring solely based on her income. She is including: 1. Last 3 years' tax transcripts 2. Last 3 years' W-2s 3. Last 3 years' tax returns 4. Letter from employer 5. Pay stubs 6. Bank letter/ bank statements 7. A notarized letter that she has written saying that she will fully support my fiance I also am including an I-134 even though I am a F/T student and I am including: 1. College letter saying I am F/T student 2. F/T student schedule on official paper 3. Notarized letter from me stating that my mother will co-sponsor and about my education and plans on securing a job soon and such details... 4. I worked seasonally in year 2007 so I am including the tax transcript, W-2, and tax return for that year, although it is nowhere near the required income for K-1. But I did work so I have to include it. Is this fine for the Affidavit of Support (I-134)? Any advice appreciated! -MARM	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-14 01:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Documents/Preparations	I know that London is an easy embassy to deal with as far as K-1 interviews and approvals are concerned, granted that those applicants are British/UK citizens. My fiance is a Pakistani citizen residing in the UK for the past few years on student visa as he studies there. He will be interviewing at the London embassy for his interview. He may be scrutinized more than UK citizen applicants. I am preparing documents of evidence for him, so I wanted any suggestions/advice. This is what we have prepared/ planning to prepare: 1. Flight ticket receipts/boarding passes/itineraries/passport stamp copies for all trips 2. Photos in photo album 3. Email correspondence 4. Phone records 5. Snail mail 6. Congrats cards for our engagement from friends/family 7. Notarized, updated letter of intents to marry (from both of us) 8. A letter that I originally sent for the I-129F application explaining how we met/our "love story" that is notarized. Is there anything else I should add? P.S. I wanted to mention that we have a lot of photos in the album from our engagement ceremony. In Pakistan, it is very common to have engagement ceremonies. They in NO WAY look like marriage pictures at all, it was just a medium-sized dinner party with friends and family, and I and my fiance got dressed up for it (about 40 people altogether, we are not dressed as "bride and groom" just fancy). Besides engagement ceremony pictures, there are lots at various places we have visited together and with his family as well as pics of just us at various places. Advice/ Suggestions??? Thanks! -MARM Edited by MARM, 14 December 2008 - 12:55 AM.	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-14 00:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Worong consulate on form	QUOTE (yasser989 @ Dec 14 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> by mistake i wrote lahore on I129f instead of islamabad is that a big problem please elaborate please, anybody had similar experiances It is fine, Lahore is also in Pakistan, but the embassy for all of Pakistan is in Islamabad not in Lahore, so you have the right country. You are fine, NVC will send your file to Islamabad once you get your approval	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-14 20:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	Is VSC working on the August Filers	QUOTE (Costel's star @ Dec 16 2008, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi! I have been reading VJ for awhile now but have just now registered so I am new. I have read in one of the post on here that the Vermont Service Center is on the August Filers now and that some have already received their NOA 2. Does anyone know if this is for real. I am trying not to get to excited just yet but it is hard. I pray that it is true. Sorry I have not had time to put our timeline on here. USCIS received our K-1 visa on August 14 and it was touched once on August 19. Thank you in advance for your answers. Lana and Costel Yes it is true that both CSC and VSC have been approving August filers since this past week. You are welcome to wait and catch up on the latest August approvals in the August 2008 filers thread by clicking on this link: http://www.visajourn...howtopic=143044 Good luck! Wishing a speedy NOA2 for us all, MARM	MARM	Not Telling	United Kingdom	2008-12-16 20:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	intent to marry fiancee FORM	QUOTE (veepee @ Nov 24 2008, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi to all! On the "intent to marry fiancee sample form" , can we just fill in the blanks and submit exactly the same form? or its meant to be really just a "sample form"? and that we need to compose our own ? pls help. For the record, i already filled out the sample form but we are on the final review of the documents -ready to submit next week...........so this is a last minute question. Thank you so much we used the sample form, filled our information in the blanks and had no problems Good luck!	kiwiana	Female	New Zealand	2008-11-24 00:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	How do your parents/family take it?	My side; my family at first don't like me to move with him knowing that he was divorce and with 3 kids. I'm single and had a good job as well back in my country. Please understand that I came from a religious family. Matter of fact he really didn't meet them in person. Just my relatives in Manila. Our plan at first was to fly together as soon as I had the visa and that will be the time I will introduced him to my family. Later on after receiving the visa the plan changed and so I flied alone . My mom and my sisters got a chance to talk to him before through internet. My mom had talked to him before I finally left my country. He called and promised her that I will be safe. He will love me and will take care of me. My mom knew that I am a risky person. By the way my father died 10 years ago. My mom realized how much I love him despite of the reality. She gave me her blessing before I left but with an agreement that I will bring back my husband in the Philippines as soon as possible. With that to say of course when I get my green card. Now, I am happily married. I trust my instinct and above all God. My family is happy for me as long as they know I am happy! Now my mom and my husband are talking in the net as we used to be. If you know he is 'the ONE",go with what and who makes you happy and fight for it... Family is always there to understand. Vida Taylor Edited by blukiss24, 28 November 2008 - 11:25 AM.	vichygurl	Female	Philippines	2008-11-28 11:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	skeptical friends and family	QUOTE (pushbrk @ Dec 15 2008, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (christera22 @ Dec 15 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Amberdima, You bring about a legitimate issue and if you come from a family like mine, ignoring them is not really possible. This is just where you have to be of a strong mind. Yes it is possible to be scammed. I hear stories of people being scammed by people they even grew up with back at the ol' country and recently fell in love with. It's hard when that person is a relative and telling you first hand. I understand. How do I deal with it? First, I accept that every relationship is a risk and make sure that with every step it is a risk that I am comfortable with. After that, if asked about my guy I just say "we are great!" and leave it at that. I might also throw in a "its so amazing how a long distance relationship forces you to really get to know each other. You can't hide behind good sex!" Use the second sentence only as appropriate. As someone said earlier, the nay sayers can only see for themselves. So focus on building a strong relationship. They'll come around later. I was a nay-sayer, and here I am... Hmmm yes some here has given great replies .............. and to some others i must strongly oppose .... Yes from his history it may seem that he rushed to marry. But its not our duty here to comment on whether its scam or not. The OP knows it the best. Yes great reply Koakland. BUt yes Amberdima its true that usage for Greencard happens. I am from India and married my fiance after we met for purely business perpose. Now some of her relatives daughter and she even herself was sceptical that i am using her for Green card . No hard feelings here but let me say this here. Most americans are foolish enough to think USA to be the world and people around the world and craving to become US citizens !! . At least in India the way we live is extreme luxury. And believe me i wanted to go back 2-3 times as i found things to be so creepy, narrow, shelfish, unfriendly here. USA does have its own charisma and good things , that does not mean that people around the world are ready to leave everything in their homeland just to become us citizens. So such an idea that we are all eager for US green card is a total idiocy to think. So anyways you shd depend on your own senses to know your partner. My wife now knows that I am staying only & only for her, may be in future we wd try to relocate to some other country. Thanks and sorry for my words . To think, "So such an idea that we are all eager for US green card..." may well be total idiocy. However since nobody asserted that, what label do you use for misinterpreting such a thought? My wife had a great life in China too but was looking for something she had little chance finding in China, a loving husband who would treat her well. Not much chance of that for a divorced mother of a daughter in China. At the same time, Guangzhou has a high visa fraud rate. Ignorance is usually the cause of the problems we're discussing here, so information is the best cure. I agree Pushbrk. I am extremely sorry if i hurt anybody`s feeling. BUt yes i was quite surprised when i heard that sceptical stuff from my wifes relatives & the area where from I come in India has zero visa fraud, i made them aware of that. So when i made them understand the type of life and goods we have in India, they were certain . And yes the best cure to this sort of a situation is mixing more with the family and gain their trust and love. Thats what I did . Now my wifes grand daughter cant stay without me. And did several activities with my wifes daughter and we are great now .... so more intermixing & exchange of thoughts and ideas and making them more aware of your society and culture wd of course help .... Thanks Edited by christera22, 15 December 2008 - 06:05 PM.	christera22	Female	India	2008-12-15 18:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	skeptical friends and family	QUOTE (amberdima @ Dec 14 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how do you deal with skeptical family/ friends/ strangers (who cares) who automatically assume you're being used to obtain a greencard? i feel like i'm constantly justifying myself and our relationship; yet, people, including my father make insulting comments regularly... as if this lonely, agonizing process wasn't difficult enough. QUOTE (Haole @ Dec 14 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe you are getting scamed! Sh!t Happens. You wouldn't be the first. Father does know best "sometimes" QUOTE (longdistancelove @ Dec 15 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Amberdima, You bring about a legitimate issue and if you come from a family like mine, ignoring them is not really possible. This is just where you have to be of a strong mind. Yes it is possible to be scammed. I hear stories of people being scammed by people they even grew up with back at the ol' country and recently fell in love with. It's hard when that person is a relative and telling you first hand. I understand. How do I deal with it? First, I accept that every relationship is a risk and make sure that with every step it is a risk that I am comfortable with. After that, if asked about my guy I just say "we are great!" and leave it at that. I might also throw in a "its so amazing how a long distance relationship forces you to really get to know each other. You can't hide behind good sex!" Use the second sentence only as appropriate. As someone said earlier, the nay sayers can only see for themselves. So focus on building a strong relationship. They'll come around later. I was a nay-sayer, and here I am... Hmmm yes some here has given great replies .............. and to some others i must strongly oppose .... Yes from his history it may seem that he rushed to marry. But its not our duty here to comment on whether its scam or not. The OP knows it the best. Yes great reply Koakland. BUt yes Amberdima its true that usage for Greencard happens. I am from India and married my fiance after we met for purely business perpose. Now some of her relatives daughter and she even herself was sceptical that i am using her for Green card . No hard feelings here but let me say this here. Most americans are foolish enough to think USA to be the world and people around the world and craving to become US citizens !! . At least in India the way we live is extreme luxury. And believe me i wanted to go back 2-3 times as i found things to be so creepy, narrow, shelfish, unfriendly here. USA does have its own charisma and good things , that does not mean that people around the world are ready to leave everything in their homeland just to become us citizens. So such an idea that we are all eager for US green card is a total idiocy to think. So anyways you shd depend on your own senses to know your partner. My wife now knows that I am staying only & only for her, may be in future we wd try to relocate to some other country. Thanks and sorry for my words . Edited by christera22, 15 December 2008 - 05:38 PM.	christera22	Female	India	2008-12-15 17:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	Been talking to allot of lawyers trying to find out what to do. Was told by just about everyone to appeal the revoke no matter what. Some say to file for another K1 others say to file for another K3 or CR1. There seems to be difference in lawyers as far as what to do file for another K1, K3, or CR1 or let them send to reversed appeal back to Ho Chi Minh so she gets another interview. Letting the appeal take its course would be the least expensive course and I'm not sure if it would take the longest because from what I understand even if I file for another K1 or K3 they still have to go for another interview and if the appeal is not complete they will not let her come over here anyways. Anybody have success one way or another?	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-16 18:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	QUOTE (Omoba @ Dec 15 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Dec 15 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok here are my options from what I understand 1. wait 2 years or more for the appeal then if I win with the help of my senators it gets sent back to ho chi minh for a second interview with the recomendation to issue the visa. Good chance she will win that since it will be 2 years later he english will be better and I will also be armed with letters from my senators and more trips and eveidcence 2. file for Imbra if thats approved then I can marry her still appeal the K1 so its not a hard denial of the 212 (a)(6)©(i)she will get her interview in about a year from filing if she passes the interview she should get her visa however the 212 (a)(6)©(i) will still be on file so they might look the other way and just let her come here they might wait until the appeal on the K1 is done and if it passes she gets to come here if it doesnt pass then she needs to file for a hardship waver and if that passes she gets to come here if that fails she can never come here unless we appeal it in a court of law If you marry you can not appeal the K1 as marriage negates the purpose of a fiance visa. She can not file for a hardship waiver, only the USC can. My advice is to try and let the senator intervene and if he can not overturn it then let the K1 die out and close. Then and only then marry and file for the spousal visa. Collect everything plus the kitchen sink for evidence of a bona fide relationship, just because you are then married does not make it bona fide to the CO. Can't let the K1 die because I have to get it appealed and overturned. If it dies without overturning it then it becomes a hard denial and she will not get the hardship waver and if I appeal succesfully it will go back to the consulet for a second interview. The second interview will be easier since we will have more trips and her english will be better so it might not pay to get married that will take longer. It will be a 2 years before the appeal gets overturned then we can just pass the interview and she can come here otherwise it will be 2 years on top of another year to file for the K3 or CR1	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-15 21:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	QUOTE (Old Dominion @ Dec 15 2008, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is there an option to go to Singapore and marry there without a waiting period? no thats not an option since she is vietnamise even though her parents were form China http://shanghai.usem...e_in_china.html Can foreigners get married in China? In order to marry, at least one member of the couple must reside in China. Two foreigners on tourist visas are unlikely to be able to register to marry. I found out I cannot do the K3 or CR1 because I would have to cancel the K1 to do the K3 and that means the 212g would be a hard denial meaning she would have to get a hardship waver but according to case law you cannot get a hardship waver for fraud and it would be fraud with the 212g hard denial http://www.uscis.gov...008_05H2212.pdf so it looks like we have to wait for the appeal and hope for the best Edited by bryonm4, 15 December 2008 - 09:51 PM.	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-15 21:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	QUOTE (toma1 @ Dec 15 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I noticed that the end of the letter from the HCMC embassy says, "Please turn in the requeted items with the form at window 1 between 1 pm and 2pm monday - friday" What did they ask for? Nothing an that one but on the one before that they asked for a chronology. I may have to go with option 1 since the hardship waver sounds like it might not be possible. I found a pdf document where the hardship waver was denied because of fraud and they are calling my case fraud so if I don't appeal it and its fraud then they will deny the hardship visa as well	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-15 21:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	Ok here are my options from what I understand 1. wait 2 years or more for the appeal then if I win with the help of my senators it gets sent back to ho chi minh for a second interview with the recomendation to issue the visa. Good chance she will win that since it will be 2 years later he english will be better and I will also be armed with letters from my senators and more trips and eveidcence 2. file for Imbra if thats approved then I can marry her still appeal the K1 so its not a hard denial of the 212 (a)(6)©(i)she will get her interview in about a year from filing if she passes the interview she should get her visa however the 212 (a)(6)©(i) will still be on file so they might look the other way and just let her come here they might wait until the appeal on the K1 is done and if it passes she gets to come here if it doesnt pass then she needs to file for a hardship waver and if that passes she gets to come here if that fails she can never come here unless we appeal it in a court of law	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-15 20:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures	K1 Visa denial	QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Dec 15 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Dec 15 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (bryonm4 @ Dec 14 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (william_wallace @ Dec 14 2008, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can't you get married in another country near where she lives? I was hoping we could do it in China but she doesnt think we can do that since she was born and raised in Vietnam, I need to find a decent attrorney I think I know quite a few who marry in Hong Kong, and then apply for a K-3. CR-1 Must interview in country of residence (Vietnam) however K-3 can interview in country of marriage (HK) Example on CFL: http://candleforlove...showtopic=33999 (This person also had a K-1 denied in Guangzhou) accroding to this website we cannot marry in china because none of us are from china. Maybe I can go to vietnam for a week do the paperwork and return 3 weeks later for the wedding and stay for 2 weeks. I don't know anything of the paperwork that has to be done and the lawyers are really no help on this. http://shanghai.usem...e_in_china.html Can foreigners get married in China? In order to marry, at least one member of the couple must reside in China. Two foreigners on tourist visas are unlikely to be able to register to marry. I found this link http://www.vietnamem...y_a_vietnamese/ I don't trust it because everytime I do something there is always something new to do or something I forgot to do I wish there was somebody that a person could pay to help do this in 2 weeks because I think it can be done however my attorny has not commeted on this website I think he wants $$$$ before he helps me even though he failed getting us the K1 visa and told me he was working on my case and im not sure what he is doing. I spent around 15k so far and I have just under 15k left in my life savings so I have to be carefull who I trust	bryonm4	Male	Vietnam	2008-12-15 18:44:00