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Africa: Sub-SaharanVisa not issued
Did they give her form stating that she is on Admin Processing?

QUOTE (Beebay @ Apr 20 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My SO had her interview on April 2 and was told to pick up her visa on April 17. When she showed up to pick up her visa, they gave her passport back to her and told her that they were waiting for some "information from Washington" and that when they are ready they will call her.

I immediately contacted my state Senator's office and my Governor's Office as well. Both working on it.

This is very strange. I have read about everything that they do to people but not this one. I had already gotten a ticket reserved through 1-800-LIBERIA. Thank God they worked with me not to pay until visa was in her hand. It was a huge blow both to me and SO.

Thanks Zee Bee and everyone for all your help and suggestions. Always works.


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-04-20 17:32:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
Yes, I examined the reasons. Lots of stress going through a custody battle with a man who has mentally, emotionally, an physically abused me and now my son.

Thanks again for letting your ignorance shine. It comes so very easy to you.

QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ May 21 2009, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As people tell me - It is Gods way of making you examine things, a warning so to speak. Only happens to those that deserve it for not doing the right thing .


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-21 05:12:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
I make statements and fact that relate to me and my reality. If you feel judged then own your own stuff Sylvia.

Judgement comming on now. Sylvia i think i said this one other time. Your irrational behavior, ignorant statements, and unrealistic expectations are all demonstrations that the Embassy did you a big favor. You have absolutely no realistic judgments of what is going on in your own life, but it is evident by your random off the wall statements.

Chritian does not equal perfections, but thank you for holding me to that standard.

Thanks for the comment about my lost baby. You validate my judgement.




QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ May 21 2009, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well this is not the first time I have been poked at by a certain member . On the same thought path that was presented I can see why some babies are taken from the unfit before they are born because of the evil in their parents souls kills them. The wrath can be powerful when you choose to stand judge.
As for being negative ... what have you done to help back home. Bring a trophy husband and play the soul sister for a bit ? Have you made plans to help people there ? Are you planning to live there at all ?
I plan to do what I can to get the corruption in Lagos corrected. And you don't do that by being quiet and hushing up things that are wrong. As for the racial thing. Check out the number of white females being denied as in proportion to the relative number of white vs others that file. You don't have to have had much more than grade school math to see the pattern.


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-21 05:08:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
It is common knowledge that the Embassy will ask what your SO does for work. I specifically told my husband what I did for work in preparation for his interview. He did not remember, but remembered what my company did as a whole. Since I work in the corporate office, it had nothing to directly with my job but to do with our mission.

It is not inappropriate to ask that question, but common. Joseph should have said that my SO does work that involves security clearance so she does not talk much about it with me. I know she does some traveling, make some reports, but I do not know directly because she can't discuss this with me. If he answered this way it did not warrant a denial. There are obviously other reasons.

If the embassy thinks your case is fraudulent they will go as far as asking questions like the name of schools the US cit children attend.

QUOTE (Afrilaskan Queen @ May 20 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you go to a job interview and are asked an improper question, such as your age, marital status or sexual orientation, and refuse to answer, that is appropriate, the interviewer is in the wrong. If you are refused that job solely based on your refusal to answer an inappropriate question, you cannot legally be refused that job. So thinking along those lines, I am unable to conceive how Joseph (or Sylvia for that matter), is at fault when he refused to answer inappropriate questions at his interview.


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-21 05:00:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
All situations work for the good in God's way. Is my Christian statement.

Afrilaskan, your case is one of those that is so frustrating. No one can relate and it doesn't make sense. My heart goes out to you.

Sorry that your thread has gone of course, but I get frustrated when people try bashing the embassy. Is like bashing a race. These are hard working people like me. They have an extremely difficult job and decisions to make. They are making a decision on someones life. Must be hard to sleep at times wondering if you made a wrong choice. They have to weed out the shady.

There are always going to be people who take advantage of roles, positions, and situations, but that does not make them all bad.

Sylvia you look at everything so negatively. That you are creating the own negativity in your world. I see your difficult situation, but try looking for the bright side of things. figure out what all this means. If it means you are to fight then that is what God wants from you. But please look at the bright side and the bright side will come. You can't see God's gifts from a negative perspective.



Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-20 06:31:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
My husband, despite our conversations regarding my job, told the lady he did not know exactly what I did, but he explained what my company did. I have a boaring job that doesn't warrent conversation about. LOL But I purposely explained it to him in preperation for the interview. Might have been a determining factor as why we went into AP.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-19 08:26:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
My case was put in Admin Processing for documentation verification and home visit. This system has a process that I found protected me and my country. I feel fortunate to have such a background check done on my husband.
It takes more than just one reason for them to deny you. It usually is several reasons that collaborate into a denial.
Bad people get in and good people are kept out. All part of God’s plan. The process is not perfect, but is in place to protect us.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-18 10:22:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanhelp please it is a Nightmare
You need a lawyer yesterday. The minute you were denied. There are people here that have recomended experience lawyers for your case. Sorry for your hardship. Today is your Friday, but your sunday will be here. Message I heard from Joel Olsteen today.

QUOTE (Afrilaskan Queen @ May 12 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
let me rewrite this clearly to explain our situation. We were friends apprx. 1 year, dated 1 year approx, married 2 years ago, our I-129 and I-130 were approved within weeks. In July 2008 we had a horror situation at the embassy and the interview was denied with a no bonafied relationship letter. In August 2008 our case went to California service center where it sat all of this time. No responce came even as one of my state senators wrote on our behalf. This month the senators office was able to submit all of our new evidence of our marriage and relationship and the senator was told there was no expediting our case and we would have to wait for the complete review in 2010. I cannot believe this, we have no criminal record, we are not lying, there is no reason to deny us and I cannot live where my husband is due to extreme hardship to my health. Do you have any suggestion or help? What is the next step? A lawyer suggested we re-file the I-130.


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-13 07:10:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHelp Case returned to U.S.!!!!!
Ok, I am so sorry for your pain.

I have sent you a note in private.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-26 07:12:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanthe horrifying news just got bigger ... embassy
Your lawyer really dropped the ball.

Although the financial obligation and time wait just got bigger, I feel your post more hopeful.

Originally you though he was denied, but in fact he just did not get an interview. So he is not denied. NOthing some more paperwork can fix.

All in God's time. So sorry for your troubles. I am frustrated just reading from you. I can' fathom how you must feel.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-26 09:23:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanTraveling to Nigeria with a small child
They do have televisions to entertain for a duration. At that age the vibration of the plain tends to make them sleep like a rock. I traveled with my son at that age and he was out so hard he didn't wake up to me carrying him off the plain while gathering our carry-on. Nice people helped me with the stroller.

My son traveled with me. We had the best flight together. We both enjoyed it to the fullest. OH except for when the ran out of chicken and only had lamb.


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-15 12:06:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanOur big day is Monday :)
Your love and dedication will shine through in every answer!

QUOTE (jsand78 @ Apr 18 2009, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello everyone,

I am just writing to let you all know that my SO's interview is on Monday! I can't believe the time has finally come for us. It has been a long and incredibly stressful journey, but I know it would have been even worse had I had found this site and been given such good advice and support from its members. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. We know that we have done everything that we can to prepare for this moment, and it is truly in God's hands. We are praying for His presence, mercy and guidance on that day.


Thank you all in advance for your support,


Jamie


Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-04-18 16:12:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanVote for my husband!!
I dont have the plug and play here at work, but I will try to remember this weekend while at home. Good luck!
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-15 12:12:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanThanks everyone!
Congratulations! You have favor.

QUOTE (aba anoma @ May 18 2009, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone!

I just wanted to let you know that my husband's visa was approved today in Accra. He was in and out of the embassy in an hour! I guess they called his name first- perhaps it's done alphabetically. Anyway, while I haven't posted much on VJ recently, I have definitely used it as a resource/support group/sanity-maintainer for the past 10 months and I wanted to thank you all for your support, advice, and encouragement!

Best wishes to everyone still in the process!

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Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-05-19 08:04:00
Africa: Sub-Saharanjust a few days to leave prepare for interview and have questions!
You should get the IR1 instead of the CR1 since you have been married for more then two years. Anything that happend with the K3 will not have too much of an impact. The embassy cannot deny your visa without valid reason. Since they tried one time and sent it back the fact that USCIS is sending it back means that they approve you. You shoudl be just fine.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2009-06-29 07:30:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow much, is too much?
QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ Jun 27 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And throwing it snippets for your gallery of quotes to justify your slander to wards my relationship.


[correction]

I was did not slandering your relationship.

I was explaining to her not to take your reaction personal and explanation of why people feel defensive. I know nothing about your relationship nor do I need to understand why people react defensively.

I do not have to nor should you expect posters to read every single topic in visajourney or the subsuharah. I read this posting and I am responding to her post. The fact that you think my quotes are a slander to your relationship really makes no sence. Again you are being defensive to my post.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-27 11:40:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow much, is too much?
QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ Jun 27 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And throwing it snippets for your gallery of quotes to justify your slander to wards my relationship.



I was not slandering your relationship. I was explaining to her not to take your reaction personal and explanation of why people feel defensive. I know nothing about your relationship nor do I need to understand why people react defensively.



Maybe she is attacking you personally, but only you know that. Your defensive post to her response will only solidify her comments. So if what you say is the truth she accomplished what she wanted. Only through your reaction could she do that.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-27 11:23:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow much, is too much?
I thouroughly read her post. She was not attacking you. You she was making a comment on her knowledge and experience. I felt your responce to her was much more attacking. There is a reason you specificly felt attacked, but it has nothing to do with her. Only you.

Why would God have to forgive me? Because I am educated someone on why people get defensive.



"Generally, when people talk about someone becoming defensive in the context of a conversation, they are meaning that that someone is engaging in emotionally defensive maneuvers designed to ward off their having to experience some unwanted feeling or admit responsibility for some disowned act. People who are acting defensively are essentially trying to protect themselves from feeling a certain uncomfortable way, and from viewing themselves as a failure or otherwise in a negative light. " Ann Witt, MD

QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ Jun 27 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was not defending myself I was responding to an unwarranted personal attack from someone that had no knowledge of the truth. I have no doubts at all about my relationship so thank you very much for throwing out some more thoughtless words. If you don't know what you are talking about you should really not make accusations. May god forgive you for your behavior

Edited by Lurking, 27 June 2008 - 10:56 AM.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-27 10:54:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow much, is too much?
Many Nigerian's are resentful of the American/western civilization ways. The quest to be as successful and materialistic has Americans is what causes corruption and deceit among their people. There is an article that talks about the failure of the African union of couples because of western civilization. There is one thing to need money to feed and take care of medicals, but for anything else is just unjustified. The cost of living there is substantially lower. Despite the empowerment of women in America some Nigerian men are resentful of this financial success over them. You might think I have done all this for him he will never leave me or at least always be my friend, but you are sorely mistaken. This could actually billed resentment and distain overtime, if one is not careful around their intention of being a provider.



1. Issue of Dowry and the role of the man and woman

The payment of dowry is a common practice in Africa, while dowry payments date back to Bible days, its meaning has changed. Dowry is now seen as purchasing the woman, so the woman is seen as a property and not a helpmate.

For many years when women were uneducated, men got away with treating them as a property. But with women lawyers, doctors, and other highly placed professionals, things are changing.

Based on the issue of dowry, women are treated different. We joke that a woman's place is in the kitchen. African men force respect out of their spouse by beating them instead of getting it through good leadership. The leadership role of a man is generally interpreted as that of a boss and servant, instead of the role stated in the Bible, as servant leader which Christ himself demonstrated in John chapter 13 when He washed the feet of His disciple.

While speaking to over 100 pastors and wives in Port-au-Prince, Haiti last week (4/8 - 4/16/05) you could have heard the pin drop when I said men and women are equal before God and men are only the leader among equal.

Earning more than your husband is a new concept that many people don't know how to deal with because for decades African men (and indeed men all over the world) have tied leading the home to financial dominance or more earning capacity.

Feme Awodele



QUOTE (4theloveofhenry @ Jun 21 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am not bashing you or your relationship so please before I post please dont take this the wrong way.In fact this post is not aimed at you. I am only using it becuase of the comment regarding salery. For your relationship this may be fine becuase only you know your husband,the arrangements you have made and your personal finances, however for some this kind of thinking is how soo many women got and continue to get into trouble in their relationships. They immediatly assume that they are not making the kind of money we make here and that they are proving their love and devotion by "helping out". Let me tell you somthing(in a good way) I have been around Africans all my life. All of my friends are Africans and I have NEVER dated anyone but African men. I was in a long term and I mean long term relationship with a Nigerian before my first marriage. Nigerians LOVE money. In my opinion even more than the average Joe. They are very resourcefull, hardworking, go getters. They get educations rival to the Japanese. They are smart and take pride in success. Jobs may be hard to come by in Naija but let me tell you that most have emplyment becuase they will hustle(in a good way) to get money. They will sit by the road and make phone calls just to get by. In fact I have met more extremely wealthy Nigerians than I have of Americans.

Dont get me wrong, there is extreme poverty in Africa but there are many who are also wealthy or at lease middle class and making it. So many people have steryotypes about what Africa really is and immediatly assume that their boyfriend, fiance, or spouse are making little to nothing and need their financial support. Then with complete abandon start sending money, assuming the role of provider, and taking on a responsibilty that should be shared. Then they get into trouble when their SO gets here and expects the same thing.

I know for a fact that marriage and family is quite a big deal to Nigerians. Most men do not marry at an early age becuase they cannot afford a spouse and family. They do not usually consider marriage until they have enough income to care for such a task. That is why I warn so much about getting involved with a man that says he needs money or accepts his partner taking on the responsibility of such things. It is diffrent if you have disscused this and made arrangements on who will pay what and when. But I must admit I have a problem when the men are allowing their SO to take on the total responsibilty. My husband was upset with me when I started the immigration process and paid the fee and didnt tell him. He promptly sent me the money back and has said he will conintue to pay for the rest of the journey. I have offered to even go in half but he does not agree to this and says he will have faith in God that when the time comes, so will the money. I am not trying to compare my relationship with anyones, I am just giving an example of what we have discussed. Everyone is diffrent and everyones marriage is diffrent, however I must warn women new to these kind of relationships not to assume and rush in based on the idea that their man "needs" them. Be patient, and dont try to jump in and be captain save a homey.

I hope you will not think I am implying this of you Sylvia , like I said I know nothing of your marriage, but I think putting this message out there can be detremental to a newcomer who may or may not be in a bad situation. This applies for everyone though whether in a relationship with a foreigner or someone on the home front. It all comes down to keeping your senses until he has proved himself and saving the freefall for later.
QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ Jun 21 2008, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a vast difference of incomes between us and them. Most of our men don't come close to making the same money we do even if they have the same type of job. Joseph is a hard working, mid wage person in his country. Which means he still fights employers that try the " I will pay you next week/month " and the lack of things I consider basics such as electricity and hot water. He is also a man of great faith that we will get through this without spending money for repeated trips. I have sent money for his birthday and the holidays. He hasn't asked for more. I will be paying for the ticket and AOS and the marriage and possibly some of the fees to complete this part of the journey. He is trying his best to cover the rest of his expenses there but we think his employer has caught on to his reason for missing work. He has not collected his pay in a month so his small savings are vanishing. So far we are sneaking by, hoping for approval because his flat is paid for until Oct and we don't want to have to pay again ( 1800 USD a year )
When he arrives I know it will take a while until he is settled in a job. But even then I doubt he will ever be the major wage earner in terms of $$ and that is fine I make enough to not worry about sponsoring him. What he earns will add to the income of the household and enable us to build structures on the land he owns there, which is good for families on both ends. I did not meet him online, in fact this whole thing has proceed basically without the benefit of internet.



Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-27 08:22:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanHow much, is too much?
People who have to defend their relationships are really defending to themselves not you 4theloveofhenry. So do not take it personal. When I first was here I supported Idocare causes, because I know exactly what you explained. She is defensive because of her own doubts. It has nothing to do with what you said. Take it with a grain of salt. I realize that when people get defensive about these post it is because they are really defensive about themselves.





QUOTE (4theloveofhenry @ Jun 21 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will quit posting here becuase no one ever really reads what someone says. I emphatically told you this post was not aimed at you but for someone new to this kind of relationship. It really suprises me how somone can post somthing with the mildest and sincerest intent and then get jumped all over by somone who did not even take the time to read what was really said but heard only what they wanted to hear. Didnt you read anything I said about this not being about you!!!!!!!!!!!! DId you see where I said this was only concerning the myth about income in NIgeria. I am sick and will say it again sick of this GARBAGE. Sick of people that just want to start somthing. I never talked about you or your husband, hence the reason for me letting you know that in the beginning. I give up on this ridiculous #######!!!
QUOTE (Sylvia_n_Joseph @ Jun 21 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are right You have no idea of my relationship. We have known each other for years and I have known the family for over a decade. I have never implied that Joseph is lazy or going to live off me when he gets here. My comment about him not making as much as I do is a reference to my income level. I am not some welfare mom or some little old lady living on disability, so lonely for company and praying someone will drop a paycheck in my lap. Those are the types that will frustrate a hard working man as a burden and will find their home empty once again.
I am not sure why you singled me out, maybe you have something against interracial marriages but whatever you trip is that is fine. Joseph has long admired white features and that is part of what makes us tick as a couple. He has never really cared for the type of woman that spends hard earned money on hair and nails. His education there is as a construction costing manager. He made a decent wage by Nigerian standards. He was never one of those Nigerians I have had contact with that have money for things and could never quite explain how they got it. ( To me magic money spells scammer ) Right now there isn't much call for construction here in southern California so he will probably work out of his specialty. Maybe do a switch to something else. Either way he is looking working in a new country and will not be paid as a highly experienced , highly educated employee straight off.
I am not heading for a free fall by any means. Joseph is not well off in Nigeria but he was doing the best he could. He owns a couple of pieces of property that as of right now don't have dwellings on them. He is older and unmarried because when he was younger, he paid bride price for a woman, educated her and lost her to an automotive accident while she was doing her youth corp service. I have been to where she is buried on the family property. We have talked about plans for both properties as well as caring for his parents ( he is the oldest son so that falls on him ) We have talked traditions such as head shaving if he predeceases me. His father has broken a kola nut in my honor. His youngest brother and I hit off well because we are both electrical engineers. Another is a doctor. Joseph has given a lot to make sure they didn't have to leave school due to lack of money and never asked me for anything. Why would I at this point develop a sense of cheapness and tell him to reschedule an interview over a few hundred dollars. We want to be together so if for a bit more money comes out of my pocket I am fine with it.



Edited by Lurking, 27 June 2008 - 07:01 AM.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-27 07:00:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanMY DS-230 FORM
Might be useful to post in the NVC forum.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-15 09:21:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanMY DS-230 FORM
With the CR1 Visa you submit the policy report to the lawyer. You can track your case at the NVC by calling the NVC 603 334-0700 using the automated system, which it sounds like you already have. YOu will need your nvc case number or your USCIS case number.

You can read further information in the NVC forum.

Good luck.


QUOTE (galaxy_2008 @ Jul 15 2008, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Lurking @ Jul 15 2008, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Post about lawyer



I do not have time to give you much more information, but you have to stay on top of your laywer. My lawyer would not answer my calls once he realized I was on Visajourney.

QUOTE (galaxy_2008 @ Jul 15 2008, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEY
I SENT OUT MY DS-230 FORM DULY FILLED TO MY ATTORNEY AND I WANT TO KNOW LIKE WHEN I WILL HAVE MY CASE COMPLETED AND WHEN CAN I HAVE MY INTERVIEW, I WILL ALSO LIKE TO TRACK MY CASE WITH NVC TO KNOW THE STATE OF MY CASE. PLS ANY ADVISE WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED. I AM CONFUSED OUR ATTORNEY IS MAKING THE WHOLE PROCESS SLOW COS HE IS HAVING MANY CLIENTS. SO I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM HONORABLE MEMBER HERE.




HEY,
THANKS FOR YOUR PROMPT REPLY AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH IT NOW I NEED YOUR CANDID ADVISE AS REGARDS MY CASE. I FIND THIS SITE VERY INTERESTING NOW MY CASE WAS TRACK FROM NVC AND IT SAYS THAT MY CASE IS AWAITING, DS-230 FORM TO BE SUBMITTED TO NVC FOR COMPLETION OF MY CASE. NOW MY LAWYER DOES NOT INFORMED US UNTIL MY WIFE PHONE HIM AND ASK HIM ABOUT IT, NOW I HAVE DOWNLOADED DS-230 FORM PART 1 AND 2 AND I HAVE FILLED IT AND SIGNED IT AND MAIL IT TO HIM, SO WHAT IS THE NEXT THING FOR ME TO DO AND HOW CAN I CAN TRACK MY CASE IN NVC. AND HE EVEN ASK ME TO GO AND DO MY POLICE REPORT AND SEND IT TO HIM,WHERE AS IT IS THE EMBASSY HERE THAT PURPOSE TO GIVE ME A LETTER AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN MY PACKAGED 3 AND 4. PLEASE KINDLY OFFER ME AN ADVISE ON WHAT TO DO NEXT, I HAVE BEEN WAITING WAITING AND THIS LAWYER IS NOT READY TO DO ANYTHING MUCH FOR US.
THANKS,.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-15 09:10:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanMY DS-230 FORM
Post about lawyer



I do not have time to give you much more information, but you have to stay on top of your laywer. My lawyer would not answer my calls once he realized I was on Visajourney.

QUOTE (galaxy_2008 @ Jul 15 2008, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEY
I SENT OUT MY DS-230 FORM DULY FILLED TO MY ATTORNEY AND I WANT TO KNOW LIKE WHEN I WILL HAVE MY CASE COMPLETED AND WHEN CAN I HAVE MY INTERVIEW, I WILL ALSO LIKE TO TRACK MY CASE WITH NVC TO KNOW THE STATE OF MY CASE. PLS ANY ADVISE WILL BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED. I AM CONFUSED OUR ATTORNEY IS MAKING THE WHOLE PROCESS SLOW COS HE IS HAVING MANY CLIENTS. SO I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM HONORABLE MEMBER HERE.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-15 07:41:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanInterview Details
Congratulations! This is obviously a true committed relationship. I was shocked to read he had to return for a second interview.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-06-05 06:41:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanVISA DENIED ON TUESDAY & VISA APPROVED ON WENESDAY
What an amazing inspirational story of determination. I am enamored by your plight. Thank you for sharing every detail of your experience, which will help other people who have to interview at the Ghana US Embassy. Congratulation on your visa approval and up coming wedding. May your wedding day is joy filled.



QUOTE (K&A @ Jul 2 2008, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will make the story as brief as possible. Okay, so I went with my fiance for his interview in Ghana on Tuesday 6/24/08. We had overwhelming evidence I mean everything except the kitchen sink. When my fiance was called for his main interview I went with him to the consulate and as soon as she saw me she asked who I was and why I was here. I said I am his fiancee and I came to visit and accompany him for the interview. She said good then I will do a SPLIT INTERVIEW.

She interviewed my fiance, then calls me and as soon as I arrive she tells my fiance to go and will interview me alone and so she does. Afterwards, she calls my fiance back and now it is the both of us and she says,
CONSULATE: Although you two know each other very well, and have too much evidence, I AM STILL NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A GENUINE RELATIONSHIP.
I (USC FIANCEE): asked her why she felt that way?
CONSULATE: You and your fiance were dating while still married, which is suspicious to me, you have too much evidence as if you are trying so hard to prove something or cover up something, the fact that I was present for the interview is too much, why do I need to be here if I have all this evidence.
I (USC FIANCEE): I say to the lady, the reason I am here is support him, and we brought everything because we have already made wedding reservations that is costly and want to make sure we have everything you need to validate our relationship so that he will get the visa and we can continue with our scheduled wedding plans.
CONSULATE: Starts shaking her head and say no, it is her decision after all and she is not convinced even after doing our split interview so she will SEND petition back to USCIS and let them re-investigate the case.
I (USC FIANCEE) : Start raising my voice, and beg, cry and get mad all at the same time at the lady and she just gives us letter section 221(g) WITH NOTHING WRITTEN ON IT...SHE DOES NOT WRITE THE REASON FOR DENIAL ON THE LETTER AT ALL!!! JUST THE LETTER AND TELLS US TO LEAVE

AT THAT MOMENT I HAD AN OUT-OF-BODY- EXPERIENCE...I STILL DIDN'T BELIEVE MY FIANCE WAS DENIED THE VISA. I ALMOST FAINTED. MY FIANCE WAS ABLE TO DRAG ME OUTSIDE...ON OUR WAY HOME IN THE TAXI...I CRIED LIKE SOMEBODY HAD JUST KICKED MY IN THE RIBS WITH METAL BOOTS....I DID NOT SLEEP THAT EVENING NOR DID MY FIANCE.

THE NEXT MORNING WENESDAY JUNE 25, 2008.

I get online to VJ AND START POSTING LIKE CRAZY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME SEEKING HELP, I ALSO DID RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT REASONS FOR DENIALS FOR VISA AND NON OF THE CATEGORIES DESCRIBED ME AND MY FIANCE.

DEVOTED MEMBERS OF VJ STARTED REACHING OUT TO ME WHILE I WAS IN GHANA AND I GOT THE WISDOM THAT THE CONSULATE HAS TO WRITE THE DENIAL REASON ON THE FORM SO I CAN APPEAL OR AT LEAST HAVE IT IN WRITTING...SO THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO THE EMBASSY AND SEEK A HIGHER AUTHORITY CONSULATE.

AT 12:00 NOON, ME AND MY FIANCE ARRIVE AT THE EMBASSY....THE SECURITY GUARDS WILL NOT LET US IN BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. MY FIANCE DECIDES TO BRIBE OR PAY ONE OF THE SECURITY GUARDS TO LET US IN....THE SECURITY GUARD SEEMED TEMPTED BUT HE WAS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SECURITY GUARDS. THEN I STARTED MAKING A SCENE AND SAYING THAT I AM A U.S. CITIZEN AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE AT THE EMBASSY WHO DEALS WITH U.S. AFFAIRS. THE SECURITY GUARD SAYS FINE, THAT I CAN ONLY GO INSIDE AND MY FIANCE HAS TO STAY OUTSIDE.

I ENTER THE BUILDING, AND AS SOON AS I ENTER THE FIRST CONSULATE I SAW AND SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING SOMEONE AT THAT TIME...I WENT TO HER WINDOWN AND INTERRUPTED HER INTERVIEW AND SAID PLEASE I AM HERE TO SEE THE SENIOR CONSULATE, PLEASE LET THEM KNOW I AM OUTSIDE, I AM LATE FOR MY APPOINTMENT.

THE CONSULATE NODS, AND CONTINUES HER INTERVIEW, AFTER SHE IS DONE SHE DISAPPEARS AND THEN RE-APPEARS AT HER WINDOW WITH ANOTHER LADY AND POINT AT ME. I COME TO THE WINDOW NOW ALL TEARY EYED...AND THE LADY ASK MY NAME AND PASSPORT, I GIVE IT TO HER SHE TELLS ME TO COME TO A DIFFERENT WINDOW. I GO THERE AND SHE IS ON THE COMPUTER THEN SHE SAYS " SORRY YOU DO NOT HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE SENIOR CONSULATE" WHERE IS YOUR APPOINTMENT LETTER. AT THIS POINT I START REALLY CRYING AND EXPLAIN TO HER WHAT HAPPENED TO ME YESTERDAY AND SHOW HER THE DENIAL LETTER AND SAY AT LEAST CAN I HAVE THE DENIAL IN WRITING SO I MAY CHALLENGE, OR APPEAL IT?

SHE SAYS SHE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THAT SHE WILL ARRANGE A MEETING WITH ME AND THE SENIOR CONSULATE THAT SAME AFTERNOON AT 2:30PM FOR ME TO COME BACK AND HE WILL RE-INTERVIEW ME AND FOR ME TO BRING MY FIANCE TOO....I START JUMPING FOR JOY AND SAY I WILL BE BACK.

I EXIT THE EMBASSY AND MEET MY FIANCE OUTSIDE AND TELL HIM THE GOOD NEWS AND SECOND CHANCE. I DECIDE WE HAVE SOME TIME TO KILLS SO LETS GO SIT AND EAT AND SO WE LEAVE AND GO EAT ..... I RECEIVE A CALL FROM ZEENUSAH AND I EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AND SHE GIVES ME MORE MOTIVATION TO GO BACK TO THE EMBASSY, I DIDNT TELL HER THAT I ALREADY HAD AN INTERVIEW BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO JINX IT.

ME AND MY FIANCE RETURN BACK TO THE EMBASSY AT 2:00PM. WE WAIT TILL 3:00PM. FINALLY THE SENIOR CONSULATE A NICE GOOD LOOKING WHITE MAN COMES CALLS US TO THE WINDOW, WE COME AND HE SAYS TO GO TO THE PRIVATE INTERVIEW ROOM. ME AND MY FIANCE GOES TO THE PRIVATE INTERVIEW ROOM. HE COMES INSIDE BUT THERE IS STILL A GLASS WALL SEPERATING US AND WE SPEAK THROUGH MICROPHONES. HE ASKS ME WHY DID I LIE THAT I HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH HIM TODAY WHEN I DIDN'T.....

I START CRYING AND SAY I AM IN GHANA FOR A SHORT TIME ONLY, IF I DIDN'T SEE HIM BEFORE I LEAVE, I WAS AFRAID I WONT BE ABLE TO GET ANSWERS TO THE REASON WHY MY FIANCE WAS DENIED THE VISA. THE SENIOR CONSULATE ASKS MY FIANCE TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AND THAT I HAVE DONE ALOT OF TALKING AND WANTS TO HERE FROM MY FIANCE. MY FIANCE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING TO HIM. THE SENIOR CONSULATE THEN ASKS IF MY FIANCE HAS HIS PASSPORT, MY FIANCE SHOWS HIM THE PASSPORT. THE SENIOR CONSULATE DECIDES TO ASK MY FIANCE RANDOM QUESTIONS AND MY FIANCE ANSWERS HIM, THEN HE ASKS ME RANDOM QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE MET, AND THE TIMES WE SAW EACH OTHER . THEN THE CONSULATE.....FINISH HIS LINE OF QUESTIONING ASK ME AND MY FIANCE WHEN IS OUR WEDDING DATE AND THEN HE SAY WELL LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL MAKE IT AFTERALL....I AM OVERRIDING THE DENIAL AND YOU ARE NOW APPROVED FOR THE VISA, TAKE YOUR PASSPORT TO WINDOW #2 AND COME BACK ON FRIDAY TO PICK UP YOUR VISA.... I START CRYING AND SCREAMING TEARS OF JOY AND MY FIANCE EVEN HAD TEARS IN HIS EYES AND HELD ME UNTIL I CAN CONTROL MYSELF AND WE EXITED THE PRIVATE ROOM AND WENT TO THE WINDOW AND HE HANDED HIS PASSPORT IN.

FRIDAY, BRIGHT AND EARLY WE GO TO THE EMBASSY AND MY FIANCE RECEIVES HIS VISA AND WE EVEN SEE ZAINAB AND BASSI THERE AT THE EMBASSY TOO PICKING UP THERE VISA AS WELL!

GOD IS SOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

Edited by Lurking, 02 July 2008 - 06:52 AM.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-02 06:51:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanMEDICAL EXAMINATION IN ADVANCES IN LAGOS NIGERIA
Have you picked up packet 4 yet from the embassy or recieve it in the mail?

Yes, if you have an interview appointment in September you should go do the Medical now. The office super busy and will only garrenty timely 3rd appoinement with proof of interview. My husband's experience.

Best of Luck!

QUOTE (galaxy_2008 @ Jul 23 2008, 05:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hello vj's
I am on Cr-1 visa and i have submitted my ds-230 form to the nvc with my time line i may likely to have my interview by sept, i want to know can i go for my medical examination in advance? i will also appreciate any advise as regards to my interview because i have had lot about American embassy in Nigeria,so i want to get fully prepared for the interview.pls kindly post your interview experiences to me so that i can learn from there. thanks

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-23 07:53:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanQuestion
Hello & Congratulations
I have read informaiton on this but I would not be accurate. You should post this in the CR1 forum or AOS forum
Good luck
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-22 15:08:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanInsight needed!
Peculiar Conflicts


Will not answer all your questions, but might help you understand some. It was a great and easy read. I sent it to my husband who also enjoyed the book.



QUOTE (lovin_famo @ Jul 17 2008, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HELLO AND GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE,

MOST OF YOU DONT KNOW ME, BUT I FEEL YOU ARE ABLE TO OFFER, INSIGHT ,CLARITY, WITH SOME ISSUES I HAVE BEEN PONDERING LATELY, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU WITH FIANCES/SPOUSES FROM NIGERIA.

THE THING IS HOW DID YOU OVERCOME CULTURAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOUR FIANCE AND YOURSELF. I HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN WITH MY FIANCE FOR SOME TIME CONCERNING HIS WAY OF THINKING, SOMETIMES WITH THINGS BECOMING SO HEATED, I FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT WORTH MY TIME.

NO HE IS NOT CONTROLLING, BUT I NOTICED HE DOES HAVE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS FOR HIS WIFE, WHICH IS FINE, BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE EXPECTATIONS CONCERNING MY HUSBAND. WE ARE BOTH SO HEADSTRONG, STUBBORN, UNWILLING TO BUDGE, MYSELF, MORESO THAN HIM, I MUST ADMIT.

BUT IN THE END WE BOTH AGREE TO DISAGREE, AND ALL IS WELL, UNTIL, HE SAYS SOMETHING TOTALLY FOREIGN TO ME AND WE ARE BACK AT SQUARE ONE.

I JUST NEED ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN THERE, I HAVE READ FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES ALL I CAN ABOUT NIGERIA, ITS PEOPLE, ITS CULTURE, AND I MUST SAY SOME OF THOSE SOURCES DO NOT PAINT A PRETTY PICTURE, BUT I AM NOT ONE TO JUDGE.

THE THINGS HE TELLS ME ABOUT HIS COUNTRY, HIS FAMILY, HIS CULTURE, ARE NOT ALWAYS NICE, BUT I SEE THE LOVE HE HAS, AND THE COMPASSION FOR HIS PEOPLE, AND COUNTRY. HE TELLS ME THAT WHEN WE VISIT NIGERIA TOGETHER, THEN I WILL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

JUST NEEDED TO GET THIS OFF MY CHEST, HEAR WHAT HURDLES OTHERS HAVE OVERCOME AS FAR AS CULTURAL DIVIDE.

ALL POSTS ARE WELCOME, AND I PROMISE NOT TO GO OFF ON A WILD TANGENT.

THANKS! DANA

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-17 10:27:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanOMG!!!! Called to the Embassy!!!!
That is great news Tess!

It gives me hope for my case to come quick. Thanks for sharing the uplifting news.


QUOTE (tony and tess @ Jul 30 2008, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good morning,

Update.... Tony called me this morning to tell me that the Embassy called his neighbor (one of his contacts on his contact form, don't know why they didn't call his phone but WHO cares right?) to say that he should come to the Embassy on September 3rd at 1:00 p.m. kicking.gif kicking.gif kicking.gif

I'm so excited, I can hardly stand it!!!

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-30 09:14:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanBeach Party

That is just so cute.

Thanks ZI ZI, I will be there when I get back from vacation. I am only at the office to do a presentation then back to selclusion. I am in an area without cell phone reception or internet. Can you imagine just a house on the lake with Lots of geese, ducks, and loons? I have canoed and kayaked so far. I flipped over fully dressed in the kayak in just a foot of water. My son got a great laugh. Tomorrow I will try to use the sail boat.



I live 5 minutes from 7 miles of sandy beach. Next time I will have the party.



Have a great week all.




Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-08-04 05:40:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanThe Africa they never show you
good.gif
I could not have said this any better. It was in my head and heart but could not put words to the delight I felt in this thread reading your stories. Do I see a possible book deal?

They say parents, who put their kids in beauty pageants, cheer leading, acting, singing, and so on are living vicariously through them at times. I see my son traveling out of high school and doing missionary or volunteer work. That would be me living vicariously through him.



QUOTE (unononehigher @ Jul 2 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zee and Kanyiri,
you guys never cease to amaze me with your stories. they are so full of history and practicality, what I admire the most is the fact that it is youthful and relevent. please continue to enlighten us and everyone about your experiences, history and heritage. it is a gem to all who are willing to glean from it. thank you.
UNO rose.gif

p.s. I wish someone would start and informative thread about their various exploits and experiences. that way, we can squash some of the blatent ignorance encountered here and elsewhere.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-03 06:07:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanThe Africa they never show you
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing. All you need is a hammock and a good book. A book you can't put down that you fall asleep with in your hands. Only to be awaken with a kiss from your SO. They place looks just dreamy.

QUOTE (Asante Maroon @ Jul 1 2008, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These are all Pics of Lake Bosomtwe area in Ghana...It was a cloudy day.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-01 12:51:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanThe Africa they never show you
LL it was absolutely beautiful. Here is a link to some of our pictures in Africa. Even in the hustle and bustle of the city I could see the beauty in the people. Their pride shined through despite some of the conditions of the community. All over you could see hard working dedicated people despite the heat and small amount of money earned for large amount of work.



http://students.usm.maine.edu/melissa.ayotte/AFrica%20Slide%20Show.wmv
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-07-01 06:20:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanUpdate!!!
Hello Moon,
Have you two considered looking into the social service sector for positions such as Direct Support Specialist. Here in Maine there are tons of positions. The pay is not that great, but it is easy fulfilling work. Most positions are working in residential homes or one on one with mentally or physically disabled individuals.

Just a suggestion.

Best of Luck!

Missy


QUOTE (moon1968 @ Sep 23 2008, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello to all on Visa Journey,

Things are going wonderful with my Husband and myself. He has been here in the states now for 6 wonderful months. At times I cant belive that he is here......He is such a wonderful man.....Anyway.....The one problem we are having is finding work for him.......He has been employed with Mervyns and has been working there since June, However due to their money problems they have cut hours and for the last two weeks he has had no hours.....We live here in Cal. and Jobs are not easy to find......What seems to be the problem for him is that when they see he is from Africa they dont want to give him much of a chance......we are trying to hold on until Dec. then he can start with the temp angency......... Has anyone else had this type of experience???.....

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-09-23 11:51:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanInterview date


Hello Tony,
I would recommend having her stay at a hotel the night before the interview for safety and to get there on time. Unless of course she lives close by.
Your love, commitment and dedication will shine through in your interview.


Yes, please schedule madicals ASAP.


QUOTE (tonysmart @ Oct 9 2008, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our case was completed on 9/25/2008 and my wife will be having her interview on 11/4/2008 ( election day)at Lagos.
When is the best time to go for medical test and what documents does she need for the medical test in Lagos?.
I read in this forum that one can not enter the embassy with a cell phone.What are the other items one is not allowed to enter the embassy with?

Thanks Tonysmart.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-10-10 09:57:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanVT W. African Dance and Drum Festival
Thank you for sharing! When I was exploring options for hotel accommodations, which were few, I discovered a drum school that offered overnight accommodations and lessons for $1000 for a week.
I am so tempted to go, but I will have to wait until next year. Hopefully my husband will be here and we can make a weekend of it.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-10-24 10:09:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanWOW.......My wife got her visa today
That is wonderful news! Isn't great that we get to hear it so early in the morning. Stay blessed!

QUOTE (tonysmart @ Nov 4 2008, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My wife called me now to tell me that she got a blue slip today and was told to come next week to collect her visa. good.gif
To GOD be the glory.
Thank you all,
Tonysmart.

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-11-04 07:49:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanRemoval of Conditions results
Thank you for sharing your story CHipsa. Your new found strength is a light that you are on your way!

When you are on the petitioning side of things you think that the USCIS can make up things as they go along by using their assumptions and beliefs. We are so worried about what we do or say because we want things to go right. What it boils down to is there are laws & statutes in place to protect us citizens that when enforced do not protect us at all.

His will never reap the rewards, prosper, or be joy filled with his Green Card because our enemies will never be successful in Jesus’ name. I am proud of you. You are a true inspiration.



Stay blessed!
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-11-13 10:13:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanDenied ....AGAIN!!! ARRRG
You have a right to rant. We are here to listen. When I first petition my husband I was conserned about meeting the income guidelines, because I took the summer off after I traveled to africa. Who would have known the process was going to take this long. I obviously can meet the guidelines now that I have worked a full year.

You are almost there. Stay strong.
Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-11-18 11:48:00
Africa: Sub-SaharanAP in Nigeria
Hello One LOve,
After reading your timeline it seems like you had a smooth and successful first interview. Congratulations. Deb's and my problem is that our husband's are going for their second interview after being put on Administrative Processing for further regional verification of documentation and matrimony.

So we currently are not sure if a letter exist. Deb has made several or should I say numerous unsuccessful attempts to contact the embassy. My husband will attempt the embassy today. Hopefully he might be able to shed some light on this situation.


QUOTE (one love @ Nov 25 2008, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (kelly1290 @ Nov 22 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Missy,

They never said that to my husband about the 221g paper. They just told him that he would be called back in due time.

He has never received a call from the embassy nor an email about coming back. The only way we knew he had an interview was me calling DOS and being told.

I have called DOS three different times, talking to three different people each time, and they all said that they see that a packet was sent out via DHL on Oct. 30, but to date still has never received it. For your husband to go to the inquiry line is probably going to be a waste of time if they treat him like they did my husband. He came with the 221g paper with the case number on it, and they said the paper was old. Come back on the day your wife told you.

I did, in fact, send another email to the embassy yesterday. When I sent it to lagoscons2@state.gov, I found from their auto response that they are now changing emails and the new one for nonimmigrant visas is LagosNIV@state.gov, and that all correspondence should be sent to that address, so I sent an email to both places. Maybe that was why my others have not been answered, who knows. I sent a short, but sweet email because I know they don't want to see long drawn out questions. God, I hope they answer this time. Oh, also, DOS told me to write a letter explaining the situation and fax it to the embassy, and then call DOS back to verify the fax was received because DOS can see from there whether it was or not, so I will be doing that Sunday night before I go to bed so they will have it early in the morning on Monday.

Thanks so much for all your help and support Missy. I really appreciate it.

QUOTE (MrsJibowu @ Nov 22 2008, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello Kelley,
I know we discussed this privately, but I remember my husband telling me that the interviewer on 7/7/08 said to keep the 221g letter to come back when they call him to come back. Does seem way too simple, but that was my impression.

He received his phone call from the embassy. She did not tell him to bring anything or that they sent him anything just to show up at the same time told your hubby to show .

Is the DOS positive that the Embassy sent your husband a package? Or is she assuming because that is what other embassies might do?
When my husband stated he was going to the embassy I really did not feel he needed to, but extra information didn't hurt.

Just relax we still have plenty of time to figure this out. Did you send an email to the embassy asking them about the appointment.

I did when my husband did not receive his packet 4 or when I heard that the NVC was finished with our case. The took just 24 hours to respond to general inquiries.

Keep the letter real simple to a couple of lines then the will read it. Just state that your husband has a 2nd interview but has not received a letter stating this information what should he do.


i sent email to lagos embassy ask for a copy of letter t get him in for his interview tey went i copied it sent it to husbands email he copied nad got in with it

Enlighten one :)FemaleNigeria2008-11-26 06:40:00