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IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCR-1, Oongoing Marital Union

1. Yes. Not done elsewhere.
2. http://www.visajourn...c File what you have, with the initial I-130 submission, then add more at NVC with the DS-230 stuff - see http://www.visajourn...ost__p__4100571


Darnell, I have read all info from both of your links. I can do most items in your list. So am I correct to assume that you did yours the same way I am attempting to do mine, that is, she lived in Wuhan while you were here filing the I-130? And putting her name on utility bills even though she is over there? This is good?

I thought about the affidavits. Really, this I believe is my best shot. Would the following be sufficient? May I ask what did you use?

Affiant Name and Address
Affiant DOB
Affiant Place of Birth


I (affiant's name) am a close friend of ( wife's name). I attended her wedding party on _______ and actually viewed their marriage certificate noting she married (my full name) on _________/2011.


Maybe Include:

I have also visited them living together during Mr. ______'s stay in China.



Sincerely


Affiant Singnature
Notorized etc.






Thanks again.
floridadaveMaleChina2011-03-29 15:33:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCR-1, Oongoing Marital Union
So is there anyone out there that was successful doing I what I am going to do: spouses live in 2 different countries, get married over there, return to file I-130? And do it relatively painlessly?
floridadaveMaleChina2011-03-29 14:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCR-1, Oongoing Marital Union

Its hard for girlfriends and fiances to get a travel visa. Its a whole other game when its wives. It takes a few times and she will need to have about 50,000 or 70,000RMB in the bank for the interview, but it is very doable. I was married for over a year and a half and lived in China, and they still refused my wife a travel visa. It took two tries for us. I know it seems a hassle but it is worth the trouble.


I have always been a big fan of her visiting here, but she keeps telling me her "travel group" won't allow this for her to visit me. Anyway. No problem with the escrow money. So maybe then as a wife, she may have easier time to get the B2? Perhaps that is the better route. At least I can to there, get married and worry later.

It just seems the I-130 is designed for co-habiting couples only. I keep seeing this flash in front of my eyes over and over and over: Evidence of AN ONGOING MARITAL UNION. Geez, we live in 2 different countries, how to get an ongoing marital union if they don't let her in to stay with me? Classic catch-22. I haven't slept all night worrying about this. I going to bed.

Thanks
floridadaveMaleChina2011-03-29 07:23:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresCR-1, Oongoing Marital Union

Many guys have the same problem. Try going to this website http://candleforlove...dex.php?act=idx

Its called Candle for Love and it deals exclusively with US visa in China. You will find hundreds of guys on that forum who asked the exact same question, and all the answers they got.

Most of the marriages between a US citizen and a Chinese citizen seem to be long distance, and the embassy does give couples a hard time about this. Visa fraud is high with internet romances so they may be a bit picky. The way I see it you have three choices:

1. Move to China and get a work or student visa and wait six months and DCF in China (you would be finished in maybe 12 to 18 months)

2. Wait to file the I-130 so that you can establish a legitimate like money transfers, gifts, emails, letters, and trips to China and then file the I-130 (waiting time 18 to 24 months)
3. File the I-130 now and maybe get denied a year later, then again maybe you won't get denied. Its a little bit of a gamble, and there is no way to know for sure when you will me done. (waiting time 18 to ???? months)



If you can wait, and want to make sure, spend some time developing the marriage. If you can't wait any longer and want this done as soon as possible then move to China. But if you can't move to China, and you don't mind taking a chance then read this guy's thread and see how much evidence you can get and hope its enough. http://candleforlove...43

It shows you some of the things this guy included that may give you an idea. If you want my opinion from reading hundreds of reports from guys in the exact same position as you, I would wait to file the I-130. A married followed by a brief stay in China and then a I-130 is a red flag. I've seen dozens of wives denied visas because the husbands only spent less then a month or tow in person.

You do have a fourth option. Get your wife a travel visa. Its a little tricky and you may need to apply two or three times, but once your wife gets the travel visa she can easily renew it every year. One couple in Beijing has the wife living in the US for the past five years on a travel visa. Once your wife has the travel visa she can come and go as many times as she wants. Its not too hard to get one, but does take planning and patients. The nice thing is they don't revoke your wife's travel visa while you are filing her CR1 visa.

If you want to make your life simple and happier I would go for the travel visa.


Thanks for the tip. I will look into CFL. I've been there before. Good information there. I would love to live in China for awhile. I've been there 3 times already and enjoy that country immensely. But I got too many health issues that require too many visits to my doctors. So I can't stay there for an extended period of time. I like the idea of her visiting here, but she keeps complaining that she can't get a visitor visa here. Don't know why. I've already done the money transfer and plan to continue to do it every couple of months.


Anybody else? Ideas?
floridadaveMaleChina2011-03-29 05:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny July Filers out there???

hi were july filer too w/ NOA1 dated July13th, we called VSC a couple of times & today my fiance got escalated to a higher person, well atleast according to them & said as per the system they will communicate with him on or before Jan 12. ***sigh** were on our 6months mark by then...so disappointing :bonk: :blink:


Yea, it looks like they're telling people they'll contact them about 2 weeks later, so hopefully it will be good news! Godspeed!!!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-29 11:31:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny July Filers out there???

It looks like VSC is working around your date becouse I called this morning ( my 5 month was Dec-23) and I was told to call back in 13 days so I am hoping in about 7 more days I will be able to have my service request processed. it is very frustrating this long wait to be with our love ones !


That's great to hear! I'm hoping if they take the time to look at the request from the USCIS that they will just go ahead and review our case (approved or RFE) rather than putting it back on the shelf :)
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-29 11:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsAny July Filers out there???

It is that time again.. 5 months and NOTHING yet. My NOA1 is July 28 and I have been noticing that August filers have been getting their NOA2.. but nothing for the late July filers?? Any thoughts??? :wacko:


There are still quite a few July filers that don't have an NOA2 yet, some of them earlier than me (my NOA1 is July 17). Check the July 2010 VSC forum (below), and you'll see a lot of others like yourself. I'm waiting to hear back from the VSC on January 6. USCIS put in a request for the status, and I was told that an officer is looking at it now and should have some info next week.

http://www.visajourn...s/page__st__360

Edited by Faith & Andz, 28 December 2010 - 12:39 PM.

Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-28 12:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsUSCIS Sucks

Hi Guys,

So I called last week to USCIS since my 5 months got over, they gave me a confirmation number and said someone will contact you within "30 days".

I got an email from USCIS today saying they received my special request and it is currently "under review" and they will respond to me in "60 days" - what the hell is this? So now I am suppose to screw myself for another 60 days???

Did anyone got an email like this???

I129F sent - 7/23/2010
NOA1 - 7/28/2010
Touched - 10/3/2010


Got the same email yesterday. I tried that email address that Lucy NY gave, but when I emailed, they had not yet responded to USCIS's inquiry on the status, so they just told me to wait until I got a response from that inquiry. That's when I got the "wait 60 days" response :wacko:
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-05 11:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsTips please on how to deal with waiting for NOA2

Faith & Andz, congratulations on the recent victory for you, your fiancee, and your God! Wow! I bet you never imagined only a day ago when you posted your last reply that you would receive such good news this soon. I do have some questions for you though. Did you sign up for text message and email alerts at the USCIS website? If so, did you not get your alerts? And if you did get your alerts after your spoke with customer service, which one did you get first, text or email? Once again, congratulations on your recent success! Happy days await you. :yes: :)


Thanks! Yes, I was so excited when I heard the good news because I had gotten so used to the usual reply =). I did sign up for email alerts (but not text); however, I never got an update of my case online or through email. I just called customer service, and about 30 minutes after I got off the phone, I checked the mail and found the NOA2 in the mailbox! Don't give up hope; your day is coming soon. God is always faithful!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-11 16:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsTips please on how to deal with waiting for NOA2
I called USCIS today and asked to speak to a higher level of customer service. She said that she had good news and that mine was approved on January 4!!!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-10 15:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsTips please on how to deal with waiting for NOA2

Faith & Andz, thank you for your suggestions. I truly wish you get your NOA2 soon because you have been waiting since July. I wish I knew the real culprit that caused Vermont to slow down this much. Back in August when I applied, Vermont was processing applications in less than 3 months, which made them the fastest of all the service centers, and now they are the slowest! I remember the California Service Center used to be faster back in August than what Vermont is now. Like others are saying, we really are powerless to do anything about it except to keep ourselves distracted. Yes, I am a very spiritual person, and I do believe God will jump start this process again when He is ready. My fiancee and I have been praying and praying non-stop for several months now, but we are not losing hope. Please do let us know when you receive your NOA2.


Thanks for that; yea, I don't know what else to do but pray and keep busy. I'm hoping we both get our NOA2 soon, and I'll let you know when we get ours! You do the same :thumbs: Best wishes and God bless!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-10 13:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsTips please on how to deal with waiting for NOA2

I have received our NOA1 back in late August of 2010, and we are now more than 4.5 months into our wait. After reading for several months about the possible explanations why the Vermont Service Center is processing slower during the winter months, perhaps because of work visa priority, more fiancee and spouse visas than normal, fewer adjudicators, etc., than their usual processing rate of 2 to 3 months back in late summer of 2010, which is why we decided to apply for the K-1 visa in the first place because of its fast turn-around time, my fiancee and I are simply losing our patience this late into the phase. We were both doing great before, but all this time of not seeing each other and the overriding uncertainty of when we might receive our NOA2 is taking an emotional and physical toll on both of us. I realize other couples have waited 5 months and longer for their NOA2 and maybe we should wait a little bit longer. Yet how did you deal with it? My request is for all the couples out there who have waited a similar period or longer. My fiancee and I have tried everything like focusing on work, spending more time with family and friends, going to parties, movies, and events, or anything else distracting us from this intolerable wait. But every time I am alone at home after work or on the weekends, I cannot help but think about this stupid visa, and she does the same. We have tried everything, and we have run out of ideas now. To all the couples out there, what tips and ideas can you give that have helped you fight through this never-ending nightmare?


I completely understand how you feel. It's been almost 6 months for me now. The first 4 or 5 months, I just felt so anxious and frustrated that there was nothing I could do to make it go faster. I really had my hopes up that I would be approved in 3 or 4 months, but I was very disappointed when I realized that was the exception, not the norm. Like one of the above posters said, different people have different ways of dealing with things. Being in college and working, although it meant I had less time with my fiancee, kept me busy and helped me not to focus on the visa all the time. It also helped to talk to my fiancee about it so that we could encourage each other when we felt down about it. I finally realized that this hard time could actually be an opporutnity and not just a trial. I really became a more patient person and closer to my fiancee during this time apart because it made me realize how much I love her and how much she means to me. You may not be a religious person, but it also strengthened my faith knowing that the Lord was in control and that this wait is only a small part of our long life together! It's still difficult being apart because I really miss her, but it gives me comfort to know that the next time I see her, there will be no goodbyes! Anyway, I'm sure you'll find your own way to deal with it, but I hope you found some of the advice from the VJ members helpful :thumbs: Thank you visa journey! It always helps to read and know that others are in the same situation!

Philippians 4:6 "Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-07 17:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 8 VSC filer and STILL nothing!!

oh congrats.. youve been as p****d off as me so im happy for you! so am I now officially the last July Filer? how did you find out?


Nope, you're not the last July filer, but I sincerely hope you're the next July filer approved, though, cause I know you've been waiting longer than the rest of us. I'm about a week behind you.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-01 14:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsOver 5 Months - what i did

Once I hit the 5 month mark i contacted my senator and sent them a letter authorizing them to look into my case.

After a week and a half past that I saw a suggestion here to email VCS so i did, a week later i got an approval just like the person who suggested it.

sample of the email i sent:

Email Topic: Service Request - EACXXXXXXX

Body of email:

Good Evening,

My name is xxxxx, my case number is xxxxxxx which has a receipt date of July 23rd 2010. I have been trying to put in a service request as my case is currently outside the 5 month processing timeframe. I have called your 800 number and spoken to a number of agents who continue to tell me that my case is not outside of the processing timeframe.

At this point I have been give many different dates as to when my petition would posibly be reviewed, most of which are in conflict to what you post on your website.

The agents that I have spoken to have been no help at all and I am now emailing asking if someone would be able to please put in a service request for my petition and possibly tell me when it will be worked on.

This has been a very stressful experience and i appreciate any help you can give me.

Thank you,

xxxxxxx


RESPONSE:

Hi,

The Petition for Alien Fiancé (e) (Form I-129F) was approved today.

For future status inquiries of a petition or application filed at this Center you may want to utilize our National Customer Service Center by calling 1-800-375-5283. If you would like to obtain forms, filing instructions, case status or schedule an appointment with your local office, please visit our website at www.uscis.gov.

Thanks,
Sharon
Immigration Service Officer
Vermont Service Center


I have no way of knowing if this is a coincidence or not but better to use all avenues than none. Contact your senator and call every day and email.

Good Luck to us all :)

VCS Email: vsc.ncscfollowup@dhs.gov


Sounds like it helped; I also emailed VSC after I was past 5 months because I could not get someone to put in a service request. However, eventually an officer put in a service request, so they responded in the email to tell me just to wait to receive a response from the service request. When I got a response from the service request, I got the standard response others received (You will be notified within 60 days of this email). However, as I just found out yesterday, mine was approved on January 4, which is the same day they sent me that email saying it would be approved w/in 60 days! So, it definitely can't hurt to email! :thumbs:
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-11 16:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 NOA1 - still waiting - VSC
There are others, but don't give up hope! When I called, they had already approved mine and was on its way to the embassy. Yours might already be approved but just not updated yet. I'd keep calling if I were you.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-12 15:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

I've heard quite a few members here said that once the NOA2 is 'approved' things move relatively quicker. I don't get what that means. Is it quicker because it is psychological? Whereby a definite timeline exists and some activity is evident. Because I've started to be concerned that once the NOA2 kicks in, I might have another 3 month wait until the interview.


I think it definitely goes faster after the NOA2. When I got my NOA2 in the mail, my case had already left the NVC and was on its way to the Manila consulate. Now, I'm tracking it on DHL to see when it gets there! Best wishes to everyone on VJ who is still waiting; you're in my prayers.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-12 12:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers
I got the best news today I've had all year!!! I called USCIS again, not really expecting much (but hoping for the best) and asked to speak to a higher level of customer service. After waiting 15 minutes, she said that she had good news--my case was approved on January 4!!! Thank you so much, Lord!!! I can't contain my excitement =). I guess they just haven't updated my case online, but she said I should get a letter in the mail. Praise the Lord and thank you VJ for the encouragement!!!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-10 15:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Okay so i hit the 5 month mark on Jan 2, 2011 and all i have is a collective touch from October 3rd. I think just like everyone else im gona call them on monday and they are probably gona give me the same story that everyone else has been getting. Any idea how i can get in touch with a senator (like how everyone else is doing) i live in florida. Any help on how i could go about contacting the senator would be highly appreciated, i am sick and tired of waiting...arghhhhhhhh :(

Ps: Which number do i call the USCIS to check on my case status ?


Try these links below. I just searched for my state and went to the senator or congressman's website. Then, I found the section that said something about "help with a federal agency" or a similar category. They should have a form for you to fill out and fax to them that gives your consent for USCIS to release information to the senator. I just contacted mine yesterday, so hopefully I'll hear something soon :unsure:

http://www.senate.go...enators_cfm.cfm

http://www.house.gov/
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-08 13:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

On January 7, 2011, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E).

IM SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!!!:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
I was literally jumping of happiness...Thanks :dance: God and the people on VJ...things are finally moving guys...hang in there!!!
love
God bless you all!!!!!


That's great news! Congratulations and Godspeed on your interview!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-07 17:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers
Well, I got the long awaited reply from VSC today. After waiting the 2 weeks on the inquiry on my case, I got an email response saying, "Your case is currently under review. You will receive a notice of action within 60 days of the date of this letter." 60 days? Are they kidding me? It's already been 5.5 months! You'd think they could at least give me a tighter time frame than that! I knew the government was inefficient, but I didn't know they would be this inconsistent and unfair, approving August filers when a lot of July filers are past their time frame. Sorry I couldn't bring some good news, but just had to get that off my chest. I know the Lord's timing is perfect and that this wait has strengthened my faith and my relationship with my fiancee, but I just wish USCIS would show some consistency!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-04 15:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Indeed. I just got off the phone with a lady and it took all my strength not to scream at her. All she told me was that I should "call back in 19 days" because 19 days prior to today is the current date of applications they are processing at VSC. When I asked her to submit a service request she said "the system won't let me because you're still within normal processing times". Then I called her on her BS and said that I was looking at the website and that it said 5 months was the current processing time, she said, "oh, that's just a vague estimate, not an actual timeline". I gave up because I'm sick and didn't have the strength to argue with her anymore. But I agree with everyone that this is complete BS. I've paid them almost $500 so they can sit around and make me wait. I'm just completely not ok with that. -_-


Try calling back and ask to talk to someone higher up. I know it doesn't always work, but it just depends on who you talk to. I called twice and the same thing happened to me. Even though I'm outside the processing time (NOA1 July 17), the system would not allow them to put in a request. I assume this is because they are not working on July 17 petitions yet. Some of the operators just told me that I wasn't outside the processing time yet, but the third lady I talked to did not know why it wouldn't let her put in a request, so she transferred me to a higher level. This lady asked several ?'s to confirm my identity such as my DOB, my fiancee's DOB, last 4 digits of SSN, etc.. Then, she contacted the VSC and gave me a reference number to use when I call back if VSC doesn't email me before Jan. 6. I read on some other forums where people had a similar experience of USCIS saying VSC will email them back in about 2 weeks. It's worth a try at least :thumbs:
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-30 15:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers
I hope they're not changing the estimate; I think that lady just didn't want to look it up b/c it was close to the end of the business day. I called for the 3rd time today and finally got some progress! The customer rep acknowledged that I am out of the processing time but said the system would not allow her to put in a request to check the status at the VSC, so she would have to transfer me higher up the chain. The next lady I talked to was very nice and asked for my email to give to the VSC. She put in a request to see why no action has been taken on my case since July 17 (my NOA1 date) and said I should hear something back on January 6th by email. She then gave me a reference # so that if I don't get a response by that date, I can call USCIS and give them that number. Hoping we all get some good news soong!

Th extension I dialed was 1, 2, 6 in case anyone hasn't called before.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-22 12:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers
Called USCIS yesterday and got different stories. The 1st guy said he could put in a request to see why I am beyond the 5 month processing time, but then he said to call back in 2 or 3 hours due to technical difficulties that would prevent him from making the request. I called back 2 hours later and got a different lady that tried to tell me I was within the processing times. She must think we're very naive lol because she said VSC is different and it is a 7 month processing time. So, I told her about my conversation with the other agent and that the website says 5 months, so then she told me to call back in 7 days since they are currently working on July 10 petitions. I wonder if I would get a different story if I talked to another agent, but at least that is consistent with Patty and Paul's post that said they were on July 9. Email is next!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-21 14:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers
Well, 5 months is up today. I'll be calling USCIS tomorrow to see if I can get some update. It's at least worth a try I think =). Good news could be just around the corner for a lot of us!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-17 15:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

:unsure:

I am still waiting for mine and sympathize for those who have past their 5 month mark.

I've run out of things to say, really. What else is there to do but wait?

It isn't exactly the most difficult time. Yet, I find the whole process dragged out that all enthusiasm is quite lost. A "meh" instead of a "yay". Right now it is a BLEH.


Yea, I feel like the USCIS just decided to take a big break. I know that government institutions tend to be lenient with allowing a lot of vacation days for employees around the holidays. Just hang in there, and one day we'll wake up and be approved when we least expect it!!!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-08 20:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

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OK SO rumour has it that the VSC is working on July 27th cases........
anyone can confirm or deny ?
I logged in today for our July 29th and it is unchanged.
Any other NOA2s for July, come on people :)
share the joy...............it will give us all hope.


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1 Cor 7 LOVE: bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Lord we are enduring, but we would enjoy Your hand upon JULY./


I doubt they're working on a specific date since it seems to be so random. If they're working on July 27, I'd be approved since my NOA 1 is July 17 =(. I need some good news!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-12-02 13:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

trying to stay positive here in "sunny" scotland but struggling!! currently snowed in which is just immense!!NOT!! Rachel called uscis twice last week.. first time she spoke to some ignorant jobsworth who gave her nothing.. second time she spoke to a lovely lady who understood our frustrations but just gave her the 5 months speech.. Our 5 months is up in a couple of weeks and I really hope they have an answer for us. Personally I think the whole process is completely wrong. I know a lot of people on this site give it the old "they do say 5 months so hold on" etc but Im getting thoroughly p****d off at seeing people who petitioned after us getting approved. Can I add that Im delighted for these people.. im just annoyed at the lack of communication and consistency in this whole process. We all put our faith in this and decided to do it the "right" way rather than just moving to the states and applying there. I feel like Im being punnished for doing the right thing!! Maybe I should have added this to YGR's brill vent thread .. Im usually really upbeat but its getting to me now. I miss my beautiful fiance, I worry about her and want to look after her. Thats my job and im frustrated that im not being allowed to do that.. thanks for listening peeps.. id be lost without VJ.. promise ill try to be more positive..

PS Guy walks into a store and asks for fly spray,
Shop assistant hands him a can
Guy asks "Is it good for wasps"
Shop assistant says "no, it kills em" :thumbs:


I know exactly how you feel. I think the whole process needs to be improved, whether by hiring more workers or changing the way they do things. Unless there is an RFE (a valid reason for a delay), they should not even look at August petitions until they get through the July petitions. I'm very happy for those people, too, because it's so nice when you get approved sooner than expected, but there's definitely a lot room for more consistency!!! I like your joke, though!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-29 12:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

My NOA2 is approved, and has been mailed. :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Best of luck for the rest of you, and God's speed for all of your NOA2s.


Congrats!!! Wow, that gives me more hope that ours is coming up soon!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-26 09:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

I wouldn't stress about that poster. If she could read all of her posts and not see rudeness, I have nothing to say to her. It isn't like she came in and said, "Be positive, guys! :) It's still within the timeframe and it will come! Focus on the positive!" She came in and said, "Quit whining, people." and THAT is where the rudeness lies. The message you're trying to get across doesn't accomplish anything if your delivery sucks.

All I'm saying is that it's obnoxious to tell people they aren't allowed to be frustrated with this process. I'm not saying we should be guaranteed a 6 week approval because that was the pace the centers were working at a few months ago; I'm just saying it's normal and natural to have frustrations and I see a lot of support in this thread - lots of congratulations for everyone being approved. I think it's equally obnoxious to click on a thread, read 2 or 3 posts out of tons of pages, apply it to the entire thread and everyone in it and write a snarky, presumptuous message instead of hitting the back button.

Hang in there, July. :luv:


Thanks for the encouragement, Andy & Kayla. I've found a lot of encouragement on this site just knowing others are waiting, too. Our day is coming any day now, July filers (hopefully before Christmas)!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-23 11:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

the processing time is 5 months, if they are within their 5 months then you have nothing to complain about. if you get yours before your 5 months is up, then consider yourself lucky, but unless you PASS 5 months, come on people, stop complaing, we are ALL in the same boat as you. you are not the first people to wait this long, in fact i know couples that have had to wait years to be together, and in the grand scheme of things, 5 months is nothing.
anyone who had done any research on visa approval would know this was a long process before they even embarked on it in the first place and yet everyone is acting like they are the only ones going through this and that it's some horrible injustice that they have to wait their turn like everyone else.


I don't think people are complaining as if they are the only ones. Even if you read and know that it will take up to 5 months, it can still be frustrating because you can't help but wonder why it takes 5 plus months for some and 3 months for others. So, I can understand the disappointment, even knowing that it may take 5 or more months. You are right, though; military families and missionaries have to wait even longer sometimes, so it's nice to put it in perspective. It's still hard to be away from your loved one, though, when you see other people all around with theirs. Prayer and talking to my fiancée are what get me through it.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-22 14:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Turns out my RFE was for not checking a box on Part C, Question 2 - I left it blank thinking it was a question for military personnel only!! Mailed back this afternoon, priority & certified. ::whew, thought it was something worse! If you look at the form, it honestly DOES look like it....but oh well!!


Praise God for that! Yea, I almost skipped that question, too, because they have it right after the military section lol. So, when you get an RFE, do you lose your place in line? That is, do you have to wait extra, or do they put you right back where you were before the RFE?
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-20 01:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

I was saved by the Lord 4 years ago, and my fiancee, around 3 years ago; we both know that this is of God, which is why we are scratching our heads; we are both teachers, and as a result, are thorough in our completion of...all paperwork. We spent an obscene amount of time assembling this package and based on RFE boards I've come across, people who got those just didn't do their reading. The USCIS gave a phone # in the RFE email telling me to call to get information on what to submit, and then when I call, they tell me that they can't give that out until I get the notice....


Man, I really feel bad for you. I can imagine how bad I would feel if I got an RFE at this point after waiting so long. My fiancee and I really will pray for you, and I know that everything will turn out fine for you =). Sometimes, we don't have the answers; even if we did everything right and it's God's will, He might still make us wait. You might not find out the answer until later, but I know that when you do, you'll know that God had a reason for making you wait a bit longer. At the end of the rain, there's a rainbow, and I know that I wanted to be with Faith even sooner than now, but during this wait, I've grown closer to her and the Lord. Just imagine how much sweeter it will be, though, when you finally see her again, and you'll have your whole lives together!!!

Matthew 18:19 "Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For when two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there in their midst."

Sincerely,

Andrew
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-17 11:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Amen, God is faithful! My NOA1 via Vermont was July 15, and I got touched last Friday and yesterday.... :) Hopefully that means approval this week, but who knows! How are you guys holding up?


I thought I was gonna go crazy last week until God reminded me of the story of Job. Then, I realized, "Who am I to question Him and His timing?" I still pray, though, that it can be sooner so that we can be together to encourage one another and glorify Him. It's encouraging to know that there are so many other people suffering with us, though.

Man, you got an RFE? That's rough; we'll be praying for you.

1 Peter 5:8-10 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you."
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-16 12:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Hi Faith & Andz, 1 month does sound lovely. I'll be at the Malaysia US Embassy, so from what I've read it is issued after 1 working day. I hope that one goes well. I really do hope she gets to be with you by January. I am probably looking at February for mine to complete, but would be flying off April the latest. Did you get to try those Cebu dried mangoes? Those are heavenly like lips.


Yea, I'm hoping and praying for it. I hope everything goes well for you, too. From my timeline, I'm only 2 weeks ahead of you (as if that means anything lol), but who knows? Maybe we'll both be done sooner than that. The VSC is unpredictable, but I know with God anything is possible. I didn't get a chance to try those mangoes--only pineapples--but I'll be getting them when I go back to Cebu! Good luck and may God be with you!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-16 11:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

Tuesday. Still nothing. I think I am on some subconscious hunger strike. Have not been eating much lately and missing lunches. Maybe I am getting depressed. Does it really move fast after NOA2? July seem very very slow. It is mid-month, I guess I have to lower my expectations to December or the full 150 days. Agony. Pure agony.


I'm pretty sure it does go faster after USCIS. I don't speak from experience, but based on what I've seen on this site, it seems like most people got their interview close to 1 month after approval. Then, it just depends on how long it takes them to issue the visa. For me, it will be 1 or 2 weeks since she's in the Philippines, and they mail it. If she's here by January, I'll be content =).
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-16 09:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsJuly 2010 VSC filers

SOMETHING!!!!

"On November 10, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)."

OMG, I thought this would never happen. WEEHEE. I'm so happy, I'm crying! :D Soon, I get to be with my baby.


Congrats! Hopefully, the rest of us July filers whose petitions got "touched" on Oct.3 will be right behind you.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2010-11-15 12:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK-1 August 2010 VSC filer

Wow, I WISH my NOA2 was in the mail !! Did you call and speak with USCIS and get the same response as the website?


I called USCIS on Jan. 11 and was told the same thing (Wait), so I asked to speak to a higher level of customer service. Then, she told me I was approved! I could have saved myself the trouble, though, because an hour later my NOA2 was in the mail lol.
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-27 13:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK-1 August 2010 VSC filer
Just a tip from a recently approved July filer: Don't wait around for the email or text. I'm a July filer, and my petition was approved January 4. My fiancee is already scheduled for her interview next week, but I never got an update online. The USCIS says I'm still in initial review lol. I did get my NOA2 in the mail, though, a week after it was approved, saying it was already on its way to the embassy, so I had to rush to get all the documents ready. So, go ahead and get started on the second half of the process! It will hit you before you know it!
Faith & AndzMalePhilippines2011-01-27 13:05:00
PhilippinesSmall Misunderstandings May Result In A Lifetime Of Regrets
QUOTE (lykatodd @ Sep 24 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just two years after our marriage, hubby brought up the idea of asking Mother to move from the rural hometown and spend her remaining years with us. Hubby's father passed away while he was still very young. Mother endured much hardship and struggled all on her own to provide for him, see him through to a university degree. You could say that she suffered a great deal and did everything you could expect of a woman to bring hubby to where he is today. I immediately agreed and started packing the spare room, which has a balcony facing the South to let her enjoy the sunshine and plant greenery. Hubby stood in the bright room, and suddenly just picked me up and started spinning round and round. As I begged him to put me down, he said: "Let’s go fetch mother".

Hubby is tall and big sized and I love to test on his chest and enjoy the feeling that he could pick me up at any moment put the tiny me into his pockets. Whenever we have an argument and both refuses to back down, he would pick me up and spin me over his head continuously until I surrender and beg for mercy. I became addicted to this kind of panic-joy feeling.

Mother brought along her countryside habits and lifestyle with her. For example; I am so used to buying flowers to decorate the living room, she could not stand it and would comment: "I do not know how you young people spend your money, why do you buy flowers for? You also can't eat flowers!" I smiled and said: "Mum, with flowers in the house, our mood will also become better." Mother continues to grumble away, and hubby smiled: "Mum, this is a city-people's habit; slowly you will get use to it". Mother stopped saying anything. But every time thereafter, whenever came home with flowers, she would ask me how much it costs. I told her and she would shake her head and express displeasure. Sometimes, when I come home with lots of shopping bags, she would ask each and every item how much they cost, I would tell her honestly and she would get even more upset about it. Hubby playfully pinched my nose and said: "You little fool, just don't tell her the full price of everything would solve it." There begins the friction to our otherwise happy lifestyle.

Mother hates it most when hubby wakes up early to prepare the breakfast. In your view, how could the man of the house cook for the wife? At the breakfast table, mother facial expression is always like the dark clouds before a thunderstorm and I would pretend not to notice. She would use her chopsticks and make a lot of noise with it as her silent protest. As I am a dance teacher in the Children's Palace and am exhausted from along day of dancing around, I do not wish to give up the luxury of that additional few minutes in the comfort of my bed and hence I turned a deaf ear to all the protest mother makes.

From time to time, mother would help out with some housework, but soon her help created additional work for me. For example: she would keep all kinds of plastic bags accumulating them so that she sell them later on, and resulted in our house being filled with all the trash bags; she would scrimp on dish washing detergent when helping to wash the dishes and so as not to hurt her feelings, I would quietly wash them again. One day, late at night, mother saw me quietly washing the dishes, and "Bam" she slams her bedroom door and cried very loudly in her room. Hubby was placed in a difficult position, and after that, he did not speak to me for that entire night. I pretended to be a spoilt child, tried acting cute, but he totally ignored me.... I got mad and asked him: "What did I do wrong?" Hubby stared at me and said: "Can't you just give in to her once? We couldn't possibly die eating from a bowl however unclean it is, right?" After that incident, for a long period of time, mother did not speak to me and you can feel that there is a very awkward feeling hanging in the house. During that period of cold war, hubby was caught in dilemma as to who to please. In order to stop her son from having to prepare breakfast, mother took on the "all important" task of preparing breakfast without any prompting. At the
breakfast table, mother would look at hubby happily eating his breakfast and cast that reprimanding stare at me for having failed to perform my duty as a wife. To avoid the embarrassing breakfast situation, I resorted to buying my own breakfast on my way to work. That night, while in bed, hubby was a little upset and asked me: "LD, is it because you think that mum's cooking is not clean that's why you chose not to eat at home?" He then turned his back on me and left me alone in tears as feeling of unfairness overwhelmed me.. After some time, hubby sighed: "LD, just for me, can you have breakfast at home?" I am left with no choice but to return to the breakfast table.

The next morning, I was having porridge prepared by mother and I felt a sudden churn in my stomach and everything inside seem to be rushing up my throat. I tried to suppress the urge to throw up but I could not. I threw down the bowl, rushed into the washroom, and vomited everything out. Just as I was catching my breath, I saw mother crying and grumbling very loudly in her dialect, hubby was standing at the washroom doorway staring at me with fire burning in his eyes.. I opened my mouth but no words came out of it, I really did not mean it.

We had our very first big fight that day; mother took a look at us, then stood up and slowly made her way out of the house. Hubby gave me a final stare in the eye and followed mother down the stairs. For three days, hubby did not return home, not even a phone call. I was so furious, since mother arrived; I had been trying my best and putting up with her, what else do you want me to do? For no reason, I keep having the feeling to throw up and I simply have not appetite for food, coupled with all the events happening at home, I was at then low point in my life. Finally, a colleague said: "LD, you look terrible; you should go and see a doctor." The doctor confirmed that I am pregnant.


Now it became clear to me why I threw up that fateful morning, a sense of sadness floated through that otherwise happy news. Why didn't hubby, and mother who had been through this before, thought of the possibility of this being the reason that day? At the hospital entrance, I saw my hubby standing there. It had only been three days, but he looked haggard. I had wanted to turn and leave, but one look at him and my heart soften, I couldn't resist and called out to him. He followed my voice and finally found me but he pretended that he doesn't know me; he has that disgusted look in his eyes that cut right through my heart. I told myself not to look at him anymore, and hail a cab. At that moment, I have such a strong urge inside me to shout to my hubby: "Darling, I am having your baby!" and have him lift me up and spin me around in circles of joy. What I wanted didn't happen and as I sat in the cab, my tears started rolling down. Why? Why our love couldn't even withstand the test of one fight?

Back home, I lay on the bed thinking about my hubby, and the disgusted look in his eyes. I cried and wet the corner of the blanket. That night, sound of the drawers opening woke me up. I switched on the lights and I saw hubby with tears rolling down his face. He was removing the money. I stared at him in silence; he ignored me, took the bank deposit book and some money and left the house. Maybe he really intends to leave me for good. What a rational man, so clear-cut in love and money matters. I gave a few dried laugh and tears starting streaming down again.

The next day, I did not go to work.. I wanted to clear this out and have a good talk with hubby. I reached his office and his secretary gave me a weird look and said: "Mr. Tan's mother had a traffic accident and is now in the hospital." I stood there in shock. I rushed to the hospital and by the time I found hubby, mother had already passed away. Hubby did not look at me, his face was expressionless. I looked at mother's pale white and thin face and I couldn't control the tears in my eyes. My god, how could this happen?

Throughout the funeral, hubby did not say a single word to me, with only the occasional disgusted stare at me. I only managed to find out brief facts about the accident from other people. That day, after mother left the house, she walked in dazed toward the bus stop, apparently intending to go back to her old house back in the countryside. As hubby ran after her, she tried to walk faster and as she tried to cross the street, a public bus came and hit her...I finally understood how much hubby must hate me, if I had not thrown up that morning, if we had not quarreled, if....In his heart, I am indirectly the killer of his mother.

Hubby moved into mother's room and came home every night with a strong liquor smell on him. And me, I am buried under the guilt and self-pity and could hardly breathe. I wanted to explain to him, tell him that we are going to have our baby soon, but each time, I saw the dead look in his eyes, all the words I have at the brink of my mouth just fell back in. I had rather he hit me real hard or give me a big and thorough scolding though none of these events happening had been my fault at all.


Many days of suffocating silence went by and as the days went by, hubby came home later and later. The deadlock between us continues, we were living together like strangers who don't know each other. I am like the dead knot in his heart. One day, I passed by a western restaurant, looking into the glass window, I saw hubby and a girl sitting facing each other and he very lightly brushed her hair for her, I understood what it meant. After recovering from that moment of shock, I entered the restaurant, stood in front of my hubby and stared hard at him, not a tear in my eyes. I have nothing to say to him, and there is no need to say anything. The girl looked at me, looks at hubby, stands up and wanted to go, hubby stretched out his hand and stopped her. He stared back at me, challenging me. I can only hear my slow heart beat, beating, one by one as if at the brink of death. I eventually backed down, if I had stood that any longer, I will collapse together with the baby inside me. That night, he did not come home; he had chosen to use that as a way to indicate to me: Following mother's death so did our love for each other.

He did not come home anymore after that. Sometimes, when I returned home from work, I can tell that the cupboard had been touched - he had returned to take some of his stuff. I no longer wish to call him; the initial desire to explain everything to him vanished. I lived alone; I go for my medical checkups alone, my heart breaks again and again every time I see a guy carefully helping his wife through the physical examination. My office colleagues hinted to me to consider aborting the baby, I told them No, I will not.. I insisted on having to this baby, perhaps it is my way of repaying mother for causing her death.

One day, I came home and I saw hubby sitting in the living room. The whole house was filled with cigarette smoke. On the coffee table, there was this piece of paper. I know what it is all about without even looking at it. In the two months plus of living alone, I have gradually learned to find peace within myself. I looked at him, removed my hat and said: "You wait a while, I will sign." He looked at me, mixed feelings in his eyes, just like mine. As I hang up my coat, I keep repeating to myself "You cannot cry, you cannot cry..." my eyes hurt terribly, but I refused to let tears come out from there. After I hung up my coat, hubby's eyes stared fixed at my bulging tummy. I smiled, walked over to the coffee table and pulled the paper towards me. Without even looking at what it says, I signed my name on it and pushed the paper to him. "LD, are you pregnant?" Since mother's accident, this is the first time he spoke to me. I could not control my tears any further and they fell like raindrops. I said: "Yes, but its ok, you can leave now." He did not go, in the dark, we sat, facing each other. Hubby slowly moved over me, his tears wet the blanket. In my heart, everything seems so far away, so far that even if I sprint, I could never reach them. I cannot remember how many times he repeated "sorry" to me. I had originally thought that I would forgive him, but now I can't. In the western restaurant, in front of that girl, that cold look in his eyes, I will never forget, ever. We have drawn such deep scars in each other's heart. For me, it's unintentional; for him, totally intentional. I had been waiting for this moment of reconciliation, but I realized now, what had gone past is gone forever and could not repeated.

Other than the thought of the baby inside me that would bring some warmth to my heart, I am totally cold towards him, I no longer eat anything he buys for me, I don't take any presents from him and I stopped talking to him. From the moment I signed on that piece of paper, marriage and love had vanished from my heart. Sometimes, hubby will try to come into the bedroom, but when he walks in, I will walk out to the living room. He had no choice but to sleep in mother's room. At night, from his room, I can hear light sounds of groaning, I kept quiet... This used to be his trick; last time, whenever I ignore him, he would fake illness and I will surrender and find out what is wrong with him, he would then grab me and laugh. He has forgotten that last time I cared for him and am concerned because there was love, but now, what is there between us? Hubby's groaning came on and off continuing but I continuously ignored him.

Almost every day, he would buy something for the baby, infant products, children products and books that kids like to read. Bags and bags of it stacked inside his room till it is full. I know he is trying to use this to reach out to me, but I am no longer moved by his actions. He has no choice but to lock himself in his room and I can hear his typing away on his computer keyboard, maybe he is now addicted to web surfing but none of that matters to me anymore.


It was sometime towards the end of spring in the following year, one late night, I screamed because of a sudden stomach pain, hubby came rushing into the room, its like he did not change and sleep, and had been waiting for this moment. He carried me and ran down the stairs, stopped a car, holding my hand very tightly and kept wiping the sweat off my brow, throughout the journey to the hospital. Once we reached the hospital, he carried me and hurried into the delivery suite. Lying on the back of his skinny but warmth body, a thought crossed my mind: In my lifetime, who else would love me as much as he did? He held the delivery suite door opened and watch me go in; his warm eyes caused me to manage a smile at him despite my contraction pain. Coming out of the delivery room, hubby looked at our son and me, eyes tear with joy and he kept smiling. I reached out and touched his hand. Hubby looked at me, smiling and then he slowly collapsed onto the floor. I cried out for him in pain... He smiled, but without opening that tired eyes of his... I had thought that I would never shed any tear for him, but the truth is, I have never felt a deeper pain cutting through my body at that moment. Doctor said that by the time hubby discovered he had liver cancer, it was already in terminal stage and it was a miracle that he managed to last this long. I asked the doctor when he first discovered he had cancer. Doctor said about 5 months ago and consoled me saying: "Prepare for his funeral."

I disregarded the nurse's objection and rushed home, I went into his room and checked his computer, and a suffocating pain hits me. Hubby's cancer was discovered 5 months ago, his groaning was real, and I had thought that... the computer showed over 200 thousand words he wrote for our son: "Son, just for you, I have persisted, to be able to take a look at you before I fall, is my biggest wish now.... I know that in your life, you will have many happiness and maybe some setbacks, if only I can accompany you throughout that journey, how nice would it be. But daddy now no longer has that chance. Daddy has written inside here all the possible difficulties and problems you may encounter during your lifetime, when you meet with these problems, you can refer to daddy's suggestion ... Son, after writing these 200 thousand words, I feel as if I have accompanied you through life journey. To be honest, daddy is very happy. Do love your mother, she has suffered, she is the one who loves you most and also the one who loves me most..." From play school to primary school, to secondary, university, to work and even in dealing with questions of love, everything big and small was written there.

Hubby has also written a etter for me: "My dear, to marry you is my biggest happiness, forgive me for the pain I have caused you, forgive me for not telling you my illness, because I want to see you be in a joyful mood waiting for the arrival of our baby...My dear, if you cried, it means that you have forgiven me and I would smile, thank you for loving me...These presents, I'm afraid I cannot give them to our son personally, could you help me to give some of them to him every year, the dates on what to give when are all written on the packaging... "

Going back to the hospital, hubby is still in coma. I brought our son over and place him beside him. I said: "Open your eyes and smile, I want our son to remember being in the warmth of your arms..." He struggled to open his eyes and managed a weak smile. Our son still in his arms was happily waving his tiny hands in the air. I press the button on the camera and the sound of the shutter rang through the air as tears slowly rolled down my face.... A fatal misunderstanding and the person who loves me the most in this world is gone forever..."Cruel misunderstandings one after another disrupted the blissful footsteps to our family. Our originals intend of having Mother enjoy some quiet and peaceful moments in her remaining years with us went terribly wrong as destiny's secret is finally revealed at a price, everything became too late."........

Very nice story .. communication is most important good.gif
CountryBoyMalePhilippines2009-10-01 00:22:00
Philippinesphils calling card quality

Hi Phils residents,

Just wondering, if you have a partner in the USA do they ever uses calling cards? I bought 20$ worth of cards online one time and the quality was so poor I didn't even use up the minutes. We couldn't understand each other with all the echoes.

I'm wondering if there are better quality services out there. I searched for calling card reviews for the phils but haven't had any luck. I've been using my CP at 20 cents per min. with my international plan but now my parents want to call us when I'm there in phils and they don't have the international plan on their phone service.

I'm taking my phone with me so I will have one in the states while in other airports. Last time I left it with them and its a nightmare using payphones.

Just looking for good quality phone card with less echo for phils calls. Price is not the most important thing, it's quality.

Kevin



WWW.MASTERBELL.COM


Looks like a good choice as well; reasonable rates to cell phones, pinless dialing for some cards, some of the fine print is a little questionable on some cards (maintenance fees, etc.), cannot find any cards with speed dial option but that isn't so say that it isn't available .. if that is not an option, then your mother will still have to enter the full number into the phone when prompted (ex. 01163906232....), I have no first hand knowledge of the call quality so I cannot comment on echos etc.
CountryBoyMalePhilippines2007-07-01 17:14:00