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Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

Thank you for your explanation meauxna

I hope this is just for people you say it is designed for. Otherwise it would be a big injustice in my opinion.

I do not have a green card yet; that is why I am worried if it effects people like me..this new 6 year conditional residency.

Thank you for your reply too Kathryn41.

Speaking of higher education grants (FAFSA). What is the current situation regarding Conditional Residents' benefiting from this? This was one of the very few things people who came here with an Affidavit of Support for them can/could(?) get.

internetkafe

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2006-05-22 18:15:00

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Crashandcari,

I do not know therefore I can not explain but I copied and pasted the related part of the text below:

S.2611
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)

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SEC. 625. CONDITIONAL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS.

(a) In General-

(1) CONDITIONAL BASIS FOR STATUS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, and except as provided in section 626, an alien whose status has been adjusted under section 624 to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence shall be considered to have obtained such status on a conditional basis subject to the provisions of this section. Such conditional permanent resident status shall be valid for a period of 6 years , subject to termination under subsection (B).

(2) NOTICE OF REQUIREMENTS-

(A) AT TIME OF OBTAINING PERMANENT RESIDENCE- At the time an alien obtains permanent resident status on a conditional basis under paragraph (1), the Secretary shall provide for notice to the alien regarding the provisions of this section and the requirements of subsection © to have the conditional basis of such status removed.

(B) EFFECT OF FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE- The failure of the Secretary to provide a notice under this paragraph--

(i) shall not affect the enforcement of the provisions of this subtitle with respect to the alien; and

(ii) shall not give rise to any private right of action by the alien.

(B) Termination of Status-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall terminate the conditional permanent resident status of any alien who obtained such status under this subtitle, if the Secretary determines that the alien--

(A) ceases to meet the requirements of subparagraph (B) or © of section 624(a)(1);

(B) has become a public charge; or

© has received a dishonorable or other than honorable discharge from the uniformed services.

(2) RETURN TO PREVIOUS IMMIGRATION STATUS- Any alien whose conditional permanent resident status is terminated under paragraph (1) shall return to the immigration status the alien had immediately prior to receiving conditional permanent resident status under this subtitle.

© Requirements of Timely Petition for Removal of Condition-

(1) IN GENERAL- In order for the conditional basis of permanent resident status obtained by an alien under subsection (a) to be removed, the alien must file with the Secretary, in accordance with paragraph (3), a petition which requests the removal of such conditional basis and which provides, under penalty of perjury, the facts and information so that the Secretary may make the determination described in paragraph (2)(A).

(2) ADJUDICATION OF PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITION-

(A) IN GENERAL- If a petition is filed in accordance with paragraph (1) for an alien, the Secretary shall make a determination as to whether the alien meets the requirements set out in subparagraphs (A) through (E) of subsection (d)(1).

(B) REMOVAL OF CONDITIONAL BASIS IF FAVORABLE DETERMINATION- If the Secretary determines that the alien meets such requirements, the Secretary shall notify the alien of such determination and immediately remove the conditional basis of the status of the alien.

© TERMINATION IF ADVERSE DETERMINATION- If the Secretary determines that the alien does not meet such requirements, the Secretary shall notify the alien of such determination and terminate the conditional permanent resident status of the alien as of the date of the determination.

(3) TIME TO FILE PETITION- An alien may petition to remove the conditional basis to lawful resident status during the period beginning 180 days before and ending 2 years after either the date that is 6 years after the date of the granting of conditional permanent resident status or any other expiration date of the conditional permanent resident status as extended by the Secretary in accordance with this subtitle. The alien shall be deemed in conditional permanent resident status in the United States during the period in which the petition is pending.

(d) Details of Petition-

(1) CONTENTS OF PETITION- Each petition for an alien under subsection ©(1) shall contain information to permit the Secretary to determine whether each of the following requirements is met:

(A) The alien has demonstrated good moral character during the entire period the alien has been a conditional permanent resident.

(B) The alien is in compliance with section 624(a)(1)©.

© The alien has not abandoned the alien's residence in the United States. The Secretary shall presume that the alien has abandoned such residence if the alien is absent from the United States for more than 365 days, in the aggregate, during the period of conditional residence, unless the alien demonstrates that alien has not abandoned the alien's residence. An alien who is absent from the United States due to active service in the uniformed services has not abandoned the alien's residence in the United States during the period of such service.

(D) The alien has completed at least 1 of the following:

(i) The alien has acquired a degree from an institution of higher education in the United States or has completed at least 2 years, in good standing, in a program for a bachelor's degree or higher degree in the United States.

(ii) The alien has served in the uniformed services for at least 2 years and, if discharged, has received an honorable discharge.

(E) The alien has provided a list of all of the secondary educational institutions that the alien attended in the United States.

(2) HARDSHIP EXCEPTION-

(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary may, in the Secretary's discretion, remove the conditional status of an alien if the alien--

(i) satisfies the requirements of subparagraphs (A), (B), and © of paragraph (1);

(ii) demonstrates compelling circumstances for the inability to complete the requirements described in paragraph (1)(D); and

(iii) demonstrates that the alien's removal from the United States would result in exceptional and extremely unusual hardship to the alien or the alien's spouse, parent, or child who is a citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the United States.

(B) EXTENSION- Upon a showing of good cause, the Secretary may extend the period of the conditional resident status for the purpose of completing the requirements described in paragraph (1)(D).

(e) Treatment of Period for Purposes of Naturalization- For purposes of title III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401 et seq.), in the case of an alien who is in the United States as a lawful permanent resident on a conditional basis under this section, the alien shall be considered to have been admitted as an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence and to be in the United States as an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. However, the conditional basis must be removed before the alien may apply for naturalization.

internetkafe

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2006-05-21 12:04:00

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Yes but what made me complain about this new bullshit from senate is that legal immigrants are punished and illegals are rewarded. Legal immigrants are going to lose some of their already scant rights under the law. That is really annoying.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2006-05-19 18:20:00

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I read the text of the new Senate legislation and came accross with a startling information.
I do not know if CR1 visa holders will be effected by the new legislation. It says the Conditional Residence period is going to be 6 years. And Conditional residents will not be able to get Federal Higher Education Grants (FAFSA) anymore but just loans.

What do you think? Will these conditions effect us (legal immigrants)?

If it does then it will mean rewarding illegality/breaking of laws and punishing law-abiding people more.

I need your opinion on the new situation if the Senate passes this legislation as it is.

Thanks.

The link to Senate pages:

http://thomas.loc.go.../z?c109:S.2611: (in general)

http://thomas.loc.go...7W7eRa:e601688: (RELATED TO CPR)

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2006-05-19 17:53:00

No biometrics

QUOTE (runaway73 @ Sep 15 2008, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I also sent my I-751 on September 1st and it was delivered on September 4th to CSC. No biometics letter yet but I recieved the first NOA letter extending for one year. Anybody received their bio letter who sent to CSC recently?

Runaway73,

I sent mine in the second half of August. I have not received the biometrics appointment letter either. My NOA1 date is 2 weeks earlier than yours and I have not received, go figure.

QUOTE (GopherGrad @ Sep 15 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

In general, how long after NOA #1 are biometrics appointments scheduled?

Also, how flexible are the dates if a biometrics appointment cannot be attended?

Usually 1 month or so.It might take a little longer.

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-09-15 10:41:00

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RFE Update

QUOTE (onwa @ Sep 16 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If you remember my post about the RFE....we sent in more evidence, plus the same stuff we sent before on September 3, only 12 days later, we have the card in hand. I have never seen USCIS move so fast. In fact even with the RFE, the process took less then 4 months--with our NOA1 date being May 22.

THANKS so much for the good advice with the RFE. We are very happy to have this behind us.

Congratulations!

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-09-16 14:27:00

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I-751 processing problems

QUOTE (sukimi @ Oct 1 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just got our NOA and our receipt number doesn't work either. $545 doesn't buy much these days I guess.

The thing is the same number appears on both NOA and the bio-letter.
However after my biometrics appointment I was able to see the case online using the same number that gave me nothing before.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-10-02 14:34:00

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I-751 processing problems

QUOTE (Jomo @ Sep 29 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Our NOA number doesn't work; but the NOA number on the biometrics letter does. Try that.

Both numbers are the same for me.What does it say?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-10-01 18:20:00

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1 yr extension letter of GC, will be sufficient as proof to renew Driver's License???

Extension letter is enough.

internetkafe

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2008-10-04 18:54:00

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Need stamp on passport to tavel urgently

QUOTE (akdiver @ Oct 2 2008, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (murebo @ Oct 1 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Please advice me on what to do. I need to travel urgently as my dad passed away yesterday. MY I751 is pending in VSC and I need to get a stamp on my passport just to be on the safe side when coming back. I tried making an infopass appointment and the only date available is oct. 14. Can I just go in tomorrow with the appointment letter for the 14th and plead with them to stamp my passport. My dads funeral is on Friday next week and I hope to travel next week at least by Tuesday. Please advice.Thank you

Stamp it for what? You want special treatment some how? Should have applied for AP with AOS, just in case of such an emergency. You can still file for AP. There are protocols in place for you to travel now and apply for AP while you're out of the country. Check it out.

What an a**hole you are! He saus he lost his father.How more can you lose your feelings?!?

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-10-20 17:38:00

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Citizenship before Conditional Green Card expiry

QUOTE (PatiencePaidOff @ Nov 4 2008, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Dear fellow Visa Journey members,

It has been a while since I logged into VJ. Hope most of you guys are settled down with the Green Card and whoever is waiting is closer to the Green card now.

My wife got a civilian job in U.S Army. She was told that she can apply for U.S citizenship after 1 year serving with the Army. I verified the USCIS website and it is true. Also, there is no need to pay citizenship fee.

She came here on Conditional green card. So, we need to remove the condition in July 2010, after 2 years of arrival. Now, she will be eligible to apply for U.S citizenship in Nov 2009. My question is - should we remove the condition and then apply the citizenship OR in this case, removing the condition is optional and not needed ? Please help us.

Loto

I thought one needed to be a citizen first to be a qualified applicant for federal jobs. Good for your wife, maybe they made an exception for her.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-11-04 18:54:00

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Card Production Ordered

That was quick. Congrats!

I applied a month before you did and still waiting.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-17 09:27:00

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Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

Probable cause/Reasonable Suspicion.

***

Probable Cause .--The concept of ''probable cause'' is central to the meaning of the warrant clause. Neither the Fourth Amendment nor the federal statutory provisions relevant to the area define ''probable cause;'' the definition is entirely a judicial construct. An applicant for a warrant must present to the magistrate facts sufficient to enable the officer himself to make a determination of probable cause. ''In determining what is probable cause . . . [w]e are concerned only with the question whether the affiant had reasonable grounds at the time of his affidavit . . . for the belief that the law was being violated on the premises to be searched; and if the apparent facts set out in the affidavit are such that a reasonably discreet and prudent man would be led to believe that there was a commission of the offense charged, there is probable cause justifying the issuance of a warrant.'' 95 Probable cause is to be determined according to ''the factual and practical considerations of everyday life on which reasonable and prudent men, not legal technicians, act.'' 96 Warrants are favored in the law and utilization of them will not be thwarted by a hypertechnical reading of the sup porting affidavit and supporting testimony. 97 For the same reason, reviewing courts will accept evidence of a less ''judicially competent or persuasive character than would have justified an officer in acting on his own without a warrant.'' 98 Courts will sustain the determination of probable cause so long as ''there was substantial basis for [the magistrate] to conclude that'' there was probable cause. 99

http://caselaw.lp.fi...dment04/02.html

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-19 02:08:00

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Who is to prevent me from contacting USCIS and informing them that you are defending illegal immigration probably because you are an illegal immigrant yourself? IP numbers will pinpoint your location to the authorities.

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-18 12:30:00

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I can not believe what I am seeing here.

So people started defending illegal immigration on legal immigration fora now????

Pathetic.

And the terms of use does not and can not prevent me from voicing my view that illegal immigration is ILLEGAL!
So mind your own business.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-18 12:28:00

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Apparently the system does work the best for illegal immigrants, not for law-abiding people. Sad, is not it?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-18 09:20:00

Hire attorney or not for I-751?

Hire an attorney or hire a santa.Apparently santas bring immigration results to some waiters/waitresses.And they do not charge.Do they?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-28 03:42:00

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Mortgage and Removal of Conditions

QUOTE (SENKA @ Dec 29 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (internetkafe @ Dec 28 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I would not buy a house before gaining full citizenship rights. What are you going to do if an immigration officer feels like not admitting you into the country at an airport?

I am already living in the US for 2,5 years and was talking about Removal of Conditions.

I know.So you never plan on leaving the US even for a day ever?

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-29 01:17:00

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Mortgage and Removal of Conditions

I would not buy a house before gaining full citizenship rights. What are you going to do if an immigration officer feels like not admitting you into the country at an airport?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-28 13:07:00

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Biometric/RFE

RFE is something. At least your being communicated. I have been waiting for 5 months AND my sc is California. I see that some people get their cards in 3 months from CSC.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-30 06:08:00

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A little rant...

They can refund some of the application fee back if your case is not processed but people applying months after you did have their applications approved. They can ask for more from people who applications are approved faster than the norm. And they can get half of that money from the salaries of USCIS workers, add half of the money to salaries of USCIS workers.

So the government is seeing immigration as a profitable business, not as a service? Maybe the economic collapse the US is going through can explain this...

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-31 09:15:00

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A little rant...

An average chimpanzee would, but not the American bureaucracy.

Nobody says anything, they keep doing what they are not capable of doing.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-26 18:34:00

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Over a year later and still waiting

QUOTE (sweetestcherry @ Dec 31 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Update:

So I called the Help Line on Monday evening, and the first operator I spoke with put in a service request on our case. She then transferred me to another operator who told me that our case is still pending, that the extension is one year from the date on the letter (which is dated 12/10/07) but that as long as his case is still pending, he's still in status, despite the date, and that the service request won't make any difference because it's only been a year (ONLY?! are you effing kidding me?!), and that this was normal. He did suggest that we visit our local service center though.

So, this morning we both took time unpaid to trek downtown to visit the local service center to get a passport stamp. The woman who helped us told us that the extension letter is the date on his greencard (which expired 3/2/08, but the letter extends it to 3/2/09), which conflicts with what we were told on the phone. I asked her if she could stamp his passport anyways, but to do so, he would have to surrender his greencard and his extension letter. And since his passport is due to expire in a few months, I didn't want to risk handing over the greencard and letter, so we let it be. She looked into our case, and told us that everything looked normal, it was held up on the background check, which is entirely normal. And then we left.

So, long story short- today was a waste of $20 train fare and 2 hours of unpaid work for both of us. We have been told so many different stories about which date is the actual extension date, and I don't know who to believe, and I told her that.

So at this point what can we do but continue to wait?

Do you know the fact tht you can contact the FBI too see if your case is stuck there?

I am not sure if the info is current or not but here it is:

http://immigrationro...t-uscis-fbi.php
Customer service people on the phone do not know anything, do not take what they say as a fact. It is just a call center manned by temps probably.

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-31 11:32:00

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Over a year later and still waiting

As far as I know we all apply once two year residency is fulfilled (3 months before the second anniversary), so he should be eligible for application as of 12/06/2008. I understand your concerns. They have to finalize and approve his removal of conditions application.You paid for it and you should get the result.Over a year of waiting and no results? That is sad. You can contact your senator for speeding up the process. I suggested applying for citizenship because I thought it is the best way to be not bothered by the USCIS. Most people prefer not living the life of a third rate human being as a resident. At the end it is his decision as you said. It also costs tonnes of money. They increase the fees frequently but there is no improvement in the results they deliver.

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-29 16:56:00

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Over a year later and still waiting

Just apply for citizenship.You must be eligible already.Why worry about this damn card?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-29 16:37:00

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I751 Filing

QUOTE (Mich3 @ Dec 31 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hello Everybody,

I sent off my I751 package last week. Does anybody know how long it takes to get your biometrics appointment at you local service center? AND..............how long is it taking getting the green card renewed through the California Service Center? I looked at processing times on the USCIS website and it saying 6 months!!!!! AND THEN ON THE APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS IT WANTS YOU TO FILE WITHIN 90 DAYS BEFORE YOUR GREEN CARD EXPIRES!!! Can anyone enlighten me on this?

Thanks a bunch
Michelle

1,5 month after I applied I had the biometrics appointment,
I have been waiting for 4,5 months since I applied, no news and no touches yet.
Some get their cards in 3 months.

I think the people working for immigration put that '6 months' as a way to prevent you from asking questions about your case. They will say you are still in the processing time limits.

QUOTE (Kathryn41 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You should receive the biometrics appointment letter about a month after the NOA. Yes, California is taking approximatley 6 months to approve I-751s. You can check the CSC status list in this forum for exact dates for those who have also applied and received their cards. (Just be glad you didn't have to file to VSC and its average 11 month wait!).

Don't worry if your green card expires before the 10 year card is approved. You will receive an NOA receipt letter that will extend the validity of your green card for one year. You carry the letter and the green card together.

I guess they thought it would only take 90 days to process the things when the legislation was enacted and they have never gone back to fix it.

Good luck.

Yes but you can not tell me it is easy to carry a folder along with your expired card.

internetkafe

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2008-12-31 09:25:00

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Happy New year!!!

Congratulations

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-31 11:28:00

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I-751 Aggrivation

You should get another extension after sending what they ask for.As soon as (a week or two after, actually) you send it you will get the card in the mail.

internetkafe

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2009-01-02 07:47:00

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Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

Well, what comes to mind when you hear 'illegal immigration'?

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-19 01:34:00

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Racist stuff? Since when is it racist to say immigrants should learn English and obey the laws?
If the law says you are not allowed to vote it is your responsibility to understand to know what it means and obey the law to the letter.
If a Turk does it my response would be the same.

internetkafe

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Turkey

2008-12-19 01:10:00

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QUOTE (TheWOAT @ Dec 18 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hedo Turkoglu is Turkish, but I dont think his wife accidentally registered to vote. That and a bar of soap will get you off-topic in this thread. Why not bring up Godwin's Law and try and enter this thread into the "Off-Topic" Internet Hall of Fame?

If a PR votes s/he does something illegal. How hard is it to see this?

How can someone ACCIDENTALLY register to vote?
If that someone speaks and reads ENGLISH????????

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-18 14:57:00

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http://www.up-rs.si/up-rs/uprs.nsf

Danilo Türk.

internetkafe

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2008-12-18 04:39:00

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QUOTE (sk28 @ Dec 18 2008, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (internetkafe @ Dec 17 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To the Slovenian: It is only a matter of time that defines if Slovenian is a language at all, but not a 'dialect' of Russian.
To the 'teacher' I have seen gazillions of ignorant brainless teachers. I guess people have to make ends meet...

To the Turk it is only a matter of time when Turkish is defined as Serbian

Oh yeah?

5000 Turkish words in Serbian already. Serbian 'cuisine' is composed of recipes with Turkish names.
What is the surname of Slovenian president? Turk? lol

internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-18 04:26:00

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internetkafe

Male

Turkey

2008-12-18 00:40:00

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QUOTE (TheWOAT @ Dec 17 2008, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After going all over the net, it appears that just registering to vote is Bad, but they can look past it... but registering and voting is hard to ignore, and seems like a garauntee to get deported. This really sucks, but knowing it was an honest mistake is of some relief, and we could always just relocate to Mexico. Before that happens, we are going to talk to County elections people and ask for some documentation to back up our story. After that we will lawyer up and turn in our i751. The only pressing issue is whether my wife can leave the country (will she be detained at the border, Im sure a lawyer could tell us). And just to be clear, we dont blame anyone for this, in fact we dont even blame ourselves, it was an honest mistake and life goes on.

As for the "Mexican" language, there are dozens of native languages in Mexico being spoken (nuautl, triqui, etc etc). According to some people (or just one person) here, apparantly these people also speak "Mexican," too. Gotta love that logic.

Nobody knows she voted. I do not think it will be a problem at the border or anywhere else up till she applies for naturalization and she is interviewed and if asked the question...

Native languages are unfortunately not called Mexican or American. Only the invading colonial masters' languages are. Like Mexican (Spanish) or (American) English.

internetkafe

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2008-12-17 11:51:00