Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Canada	Train to montreal?	It only cost $144.90 to book a return trip from Toronto Union Station to Montreal Central Station. It's a reasonable amount and the express train is roughly the same speed as driving (and you just sit back and relax). I also booked a hotel that is on the same block as the consulate -- Le Square Phillips. http://www.squarephi.../montreal-hotel I've stayed there before and it is really nice. It is a bit pricey at $145 a night but you can walk to the consulate in a minute.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-02-27 16:16:00
Canada	Changing destination address in the US	QUOTE (JillA @ Mar 12 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, you can advise the IO at the POE of the new US address. I know Laura did it, and when I activated my K-1 the IO asked me to confirm the US address. So it will be all good Thanks!	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-12 09:30:00
Canada	Changing destination address in the US	Does anyone know when/how to update your destination address in the US? My fiancee will be moving to a new apartment sometime between my interview (next week) and my intended moving date of May 1st. A long time ago (when I was filling out the I-129F) I recall reading that you can update your destination address at the POE... has anyone done that when they activated the K-1?	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-12 08:35:00
Canada	DS-230, DS-156 and 156k	I can't speak for Vancouver, but the Montreal packet 3 checklist states that they only put you in the interview waiting list after they have received both the DS-230 part 1 and document checklist.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-12 12:42:00
Canada	NEW CANADIANS TO US & US CREDIT	I'd just like to clarify something for TD Canada Trust customers (cause I'm one of them and went through the same thing): I recently opened a Borderless Plan, which is a US Dollar Account. All monthly fees are waived if you keep a monthly balance over $3,000 USD. The reason I did this was to provide a stopgap measure before I can open a bank account in the US. You get a slightly better rate on money conversion, which makes a big difference when exchanging several thousand dollars at a time. I was with a financial rep at the time and she advised me NOT to open a US Dollar Visa card, because it won't help build any credit in the US. So all I have is access to my money in American dollars. It's easy to convert money from my CDN chequing/savings accounts via EasyWeb. Some people in this thread have said that the money is hard to access, but that is dependent on your final destination. Right on their Branch Locator page, there is this note: QUOTE Please Note: TD Canada Trust customers have FEE FREE access to more than 2,500 TD Canada Trust ABMs, and PLUS Network FEE FREE access at 750 TD Banknorth ABMs, 750 Commerce ABMs and 975 Presto! ABMs located at Publix Super Markets. So it is certainly possible to get fee-free access to your accounts from those locations (e.g., New England, New York, and most of the northeast). Assuming you withdraw money from a Borderless Plan, there won't be any fees at all because you get unlimited no-fee withdrawals. Edited by bauser, 13 March 2009 - 10:23 AM.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-13 10:20:00
Canada	Scan ID photos	I used up 3 at the medical (Dr. Seiden in TO) and 2 at the interview (Montreal). Have you asked the consulate through email? You're probably best off submitting 3 of the 4 that you have for the medical. Then get 2 more done closer to the interview. One photo gets wasted this way, but at least you'll have the right amount and they'll be consistent within each submission.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-22 17:54:00
Canada	I-134 Form....Notarized or not???	You can use the new I-134 without notarization in Montreal. I confirmed this before and used them without a hitch at the interview. Here's the link: http://www.uscis.gov...00048f3d6a1RCRD Edited by bauser, 27 March 2009 - 12:54 PM.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-03-27 12:50:00
Canada	POE choice -- pre-clearance or state-side	Thanks everyone for the advice. I'll fly YYZ-LGA. QUOTE (SapphireDreams @ Apr 4 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bauser I was just talking about the same thing with my fiance, I'm doing the same trek to Queens and noticed that Porter was cheaper right now, but its such a pain to get to Queens from Newark! I'll be in Woodside Where will you be? Cool! I'll be living in Astoria, which is just north of Woodside. We should stay in touch to ham it up about the marriage process, AOS and reminiscing about our homeland.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-04 10:37:00
Canada	POE choice -- pre-clearance or state-side	Does anyone have an opinion on whether there is a tangible difference with a pre-clearance POE like Toronto Pearson or a state-side POE like Newark Liberty? I have to get to New York City by air so here are my choices. Pearson to LaGuardia: I'm leaning toward LaGuardia because it is very close (15 minutes) from where I'll be living. But it means processing in Toronto. --or-- Toronto Island to Newark: On the other hand, if I fly with Porter to Newark I will be processed state-side. I'm thinking that processing in the states may improve the speed that I get registered in the SAVE-ASVI system for my SSN and also reduce the possibility that they'd lose my paperwork (the POE is geographically next to my final destination and local USCIS office). The only problem is that I'd then have to trek from New Jersey to Queens with 3 suitcases.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-04 08:56:00
Canada	k-1 visa costs	I-129F - $455 USD (exchange rate was still ok at that time so lets assume parity) Police clearance - $27 Passport photos - $55 (2xCDN, 5xUS) Passport renewal - $90 Medical - $185 Train to Montreal - $150 Hotel in Montreal - $150 Birth Certificate - $40 Photocopies - $10 XpressPost Packet 3 - $10 XpressPost Interview - $10 US Visa fee - $131 USD (160 CDN) --- K-1 Visa subtotal - $1342 CDN --- Moving Estimate - $300 --- Marriage fees - $60 USD (75 CDN) --- AOS - $1010 USD (1260 CDN) --- Total estimate - $2975 CDN --- Ouch that's the first time I've tabulated everything together... but it will be alllll worth it.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-06 09:14:00
Canada	Best Ontario-NY border crossing for K-1	Thanks for all your advice. I'll plan for the Peace Bridge and divert to Queenston if the wait times are too long. I doubt that will happen but we have a blackberry to check their website. carrieandadrian: from what I read in the POE reviews, they do not go through your personal belongings. I'll post my POE experience next weekend after I've settled into my new place!	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-14 11:19:00
Canada	Best Ontario-NY border crossing for K-1	Does anyone have input on which border crossing to use for the smoothest K-1 activation? Choices: -Queenston-Lewiston -Niagara Falls (Rainbow Bridge) -Ft.Erie-Buffalo (Peace Bridge) Details: -We plan to arrive at the border around 5:30-6:00 AM. -I'll be traveling in my Father's car but he is driving it back to Toronto afterward so no paperwork required for the vehicle. -I will have my personal belongings (a few suitcases and boxes) in the car. It seems like most people activated at the Peace Bridge between Fort Erie and Buffalo. I have the most crossing experience using the Queenston-Lewiston Bridge, but I have never been to secondary there. Also, if you can think of any special considerations because my Father is accompanying me with his car, please let me know. He'll have his passport, work ID, and business cards with him. Thanks again for all your help! Last week of work and 12 more days till the move... crazy times.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-13 09:50:00
Canada	What's the best (cheap) way to move your stuff?	Ok so I had a minor panic attack yesterday trying to figure out how to move my stuff. The original plan was to fly to Queens with my luggage allowance plus extra bags. I'd have 2-3 other boxes that would either be mailed by UPS or brought over in 6 months by relatives when they attend the wedding. I've now convinced my father to drive with me to NYC if I pay for gas, lodging, and parking. It would probably cost the same as a one-way flight with extra bags anyway... and I can move all my stuff in one shot. Being a great dad he agreed so we're going to drive on the weekend of April 25. No unaccompanied duty-free hassles and i never have to move my stuff again (never say never)!	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-06 09:21:00
Canada	What's the best (cheap) way to move your stuff?	QUOTE (SapphireDreams @ Apr 5 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ^^ You're technically not allowed to send anything in advance of yourself. But if all you're sending is that 1 box, and you send to to your fiance and label it as :used" - I can't see you getting any charges. Most of the time, it is Canada that adds on a customs charge, not the US. Where did you read up on this stuff? (i.e., how did you know it is not technically allowed?) I've been digging around all evening trying to find out how to use parcel mail to move some of my personal belongings... it has been pretty confusing so far.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-05 19:10:00
Canada	What's the best (cheap) way to move your stuff?	Has anyone tried sending smaller parcels through Canada Post? I was thinking of sending my computer case ahead of time... it would be empty (total value only $90). Anyway, I popped the specs (dimensions and weight) into the Canada Post Calculator and this is what I got back: Expedited Parcel USA (5 to 6 business days) Base Price $23.50 Delivery confirmation Included Fuel surcharge $1.00 Coverage Included Total $24.50 That's way cheaper than buying a new case (the heaviest part) when I get there. I am just curious if anyone has experience with customs declarations when mailing your own stuff to your state-side destination? Are there going to be extra fees?	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-05 17:33:00
Canada	K-1 Border Crossing @ Queenston	Turns out the border crossing was (like the interview) one of the easiest steps of the visa process... We decided to go to Queenston-Lewiston because we just wanted to get the crossing done ASAP. Buffalo was an extra 30 min away and the wait times were listed as none for both crossings at 7am (last Friday Apr 24). When I got to the booth, I told the officer that I wanted to "activate my K-1 visa". This prompted him to give me a quizzical look at he responded by asking me (in a sarcastic tone) how one went about "activating" a visa. I don't think he was trying to give me a hard time. It's possible that the verbiage we use on the forum is not 100% what the customs officers use. Anyway, we exchanged a few words and chuckles (I was not letting anything get me down on this important day) and finally asked him what the correct term would be. He said that what I am really doing is "applying" for entry with my visa. At the end of the day this was purely semantics so I didn't pursue the point. He told me to hang onto my visa envelope and directed us to enter the processing area to the left of the booths. At that point he hadn't given me back my passports. Later we realized that he had sent them via vacuum tubes to the processing building. He handed me a ticket that I needed to enter the parking lot. We were admitted to the processing parking lot by 2 fellows standing by a parked cruiser. They seemed to be in good spirits and were joking around when we pulled up. I explained that I was here to get processed for immigration. He asked if I knew where I was going, and I answered no. He said to pull into any parking spot on the left and then head left from the parked car to the building -- where my name would be called eventually. He then peeked into our back seat and exclaimed something along the lines of "geez, what do you guys have in there?" (bear in mind the car was completely packed to the gills). I just smiled and said "I'm MOVING!". That seemed to placate him and we headed to the parking spot. I think the key here is to remember that they are not really out to make your life hard. Just tell the truth and stay upbeat. We pulled into the lot and noticed that there were only a handful of cars there. I figured we wouldn't be waiting too long. Inside the processing center there were only 2 groups ahead of us. Those groups were processed and out within a few minutes and I was called up to the desk. I handed over my visa envelope (from the consulate) and asked to update my destination address. The guy processing my work seemed to be a little low on energy but he actually got me processed in about 10 minutes with very few words exchanged. In fact, the only things he asked me were why I was changing my destination address and who I was travelling with. He also asked if I knew how the K-1 visa worked and I said yes, so he actually skipped the entire explanation. Then he stapled the I-94A to my passport (next to my visa) and stamped both with my entry date. He handed back the passport and said that was it! Total time elapsed from entering the building - 15 minutes. On the way out of the building, one of the guys guarding the parking lot walked over and took my stamped ticket. Then we just exited the parking lot onto the I-190. Some key notes: -Maybe 'activating' the visa is not the correct term? -They did not search my car nor did they even ask what I was bringing with me -Don't bother asking for your passport back at the booth if the crossing has vacuum tubes -Stay upbeat and cheerful... even if the officer is being difficult it will soon rub off and all will be well -Try to go early (before 8am) to a land crossing to reduce wait time (and obviously avoid long weekends if possible)	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-27 07:43:00
Canada	Working before EAD	I am in the US on my K-1 but I have not been married yet--that'll be sometime in May (i.e., no EAD). My ex-boss in Canada wants me to take on some contract work remotely. I asked the guy who processed me at the border crossing and he didn't give me a straight answer on whether I can work remotely for a Canadian company... does anyone have any input regarding this? Thanks!	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-04-30 12:34:00
Canada	Montreal Embassy Packet 3 Questions...Please Help	If you received your NOA1 recently, it's likely that you have a ways to go before your NOA2. That being said, there are a few things you can do now and a few things that are best left till you actually receive the NOA2/packet 3. Passport - make sure your Canadian passport is valid for 1 year beyond your projected date of immigration. Use the K-1 timelines to estimate based on your milestones. I had to renew my passport in a hurry because mine was going to expire later this year. If your passport is fine, then just photocopy the page with your picture and signature in it and you're set. Photos - you should wait on the photos until closer to your interview date so that they are more recent when you go for your medical. Either way this only takes a day max. Medical - you can't do this until you've received packet 3 from Montreal. Birth certificate - if you do not have your long form birth certificate, now is a good time to order it. If you were born in Ontario this is the link: https://www.orgforms...eForms/start.do ... once you have the longform birth certificate, photocopy it. Police certificate - You can apply for this when your fiance gets the NOA2. By the time packet 3 arrives, you should receive your police certificate (mine took about 5 business days, if you are in Toronto you can go to Police Headquarters at Bay+College). Evidence of support - this is something you should wait on, but it would help to explain to your fiance - i.e., the kinds of evidence he will have to acquire when the time comes (tax slips, employer letter, statement from bank officer). There are a few other things like Court & Prison Records, Military Record, Divorce/Death Certificiates, Documents for Accompanying Children - I don't have any experience with these since I didn't have to get them. While this isn't a photocopy of the checklist, it is a breakdown of all items that appear on it. Hope this helps.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-02-27 09:23:00
Canada	You visit the SSN office and then...	I got my SSN card a week after (5 business days) in the mail. I went to one of the SSN Card Centers that they built in specific metro regions though. I also waited 4 weeks after I crossed the border.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-06-08 15:43:00
Canada	Can I cash a canadian check in USA?	grr just posting a follow-up here 'cause I just called Chase's international collection hotline for some clarification. The thing that tripped my deposit up was the fact that it was over $5000 USD in value. Apparently that's the condition to trigger a different type of processing... So the lesson here is don't try to deposit a check/draft over $5k if you can avoid it. Unfortunately for me there is nothing to do but wait now.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-06-08 15:48:00
Canada	Can I cash a canadian check in USA?	I have an update for the this thread: I recently opened a Chase checking account and tried to deposit a US-Dollar Cheque from TD Canada Trust. A day later I saw that the cheque did not clear (even though there was more than enough money in the TD account) and that I was charged a $25 insufficient funds fee. Suffice to say I was steaming mad when I saw this. I called the branch and they looked into it, finally telling me that it will take 2-3 weeks for the international cheque to clear and that they will reverse the fee at that time. So now my money is in limbo for weeks and I have no access to it. They can't recall the cheque since it's been sent collection and it will cost me money on both sides if I make a stop payment. The only reason I chose Chase was because it was a few minutes from my place... we'll be pulling our money out and moving all of our money to Bank of America after 90 days (so Chase can't charge us another $25 for trying to close an account within 90 days of opening). I also called Chase to verify the Branch's story and they also told me that international cheques take 2-3 weeks to clear. I asked why BoA was able to clear the same cheques in 2-3 DAYS and they did not have an answer for me. So yea, avoid Chase if you can.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-06-05 08:42:00
Canada	Can I cash a canadian check in USA?	Did you get the Bordeless Plan from TD? If so you are entitled to complimentary checks. Just FYI, when you order them you can ask to leave your address off the checks so it only shows your name (in case you haven't updated to your US address before ordering checks). My checks specifically state "US Dollar Account" and "U.S. Funds". They take about 3 days to clear with BoA. QUOTE (SapphireDreams @ May 12 2009, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's good to know. We also opened a US account with TD Canada Trust. I'm going to go see if Chase will accept a US cheque from a Canadian Bank.	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-05-12 10:11:00
Canada	Can I cash a canadian check in USA?	You can also get a USD account with your Canadian bank. If you use online banking, it's easy to move money from your Canadian checking/savings accounts to your USD account... with my bank (TD CanadaTrust) I even get a slightly better exchange rate this way. I've had no problems depositing US Dollar checks drawn from a Canadian US Dollar account at Bank of America (for paying rent to my Fiancee).	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-05-12 09:56:00
Canada	AOS	You can send a copy of the I-94 front and back. Hang onto your original (as it should be stapled into your passport). QUOTE (chadlaure @ Aug 1 2009, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do we have to send the original I-94?? I was planning on sending copies... front and back	bauser	Male	Canada	2009-08-01 08:39:00
Canada	Packet 3 Checklist	QUOTE (KristinL @ Apr 20 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Hugglebuggles @ Apr 20 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only things you need to send back to Montreal now is the completed checklist, the form DS 230 Part I and you need to complete the form DS 160 online. However, you can't really send back the checklist until you physically receive one to fill out. It will have your MTL case number on it as well, so you can't even print off someone elses and fill it out. Unfortunately you need to wait! But if you have the forms prepared for when it does come, you can send it off really quickly. Everything else that is listed in the checklist is to be brought to the interview... You need a valid passport (valid for at least a year), 5 US passport sized photos, birth certificate (the long form), a police certificate, court or prison records if applicable, divorce certificate from any previous marriages if applicable, form I-134 Affidavit of Support from the USC with evidence, new letter of intent from your fiance. You also need to arrange for a medical with a USCIS approved civil surgeon. There is one in Vancouver, one in Montreal and one in Toronto. Hope that helps! Thanks much appreciated! Wait a minute now everyone. (This thread is about me actually) It was my understanding that it is perfectly alright to send in the DS-230 Part I and fill out the DS-160 without the checklist, IF, and only IF, they have lost it in the mail. However, when I called Dr. Seidon's office in Toronto, they told me I needed to bring something to the medical that was mailed to me from Montreal with my case number on top. But I don't have anything! IT'S LOST IN THE MAIL! I tried e-mailing Montreal with an explanation from Canada Post that my packet 3 may be lost. I requested information on how to proceed. Instead, they sent me a link with no explanation of what I was to do with it. They are obviously so busy they can't even read my e-mail properly. This is what they sent me: Please visit on line at http://www.travel.st...ocity/index.htm How on earth am I supposed to interpret this?	Toronto Guy	Male	0	2009-04-20 14:20:00
Canada	Crossing into the US together while waiting for interview	:-) The best time to visit your Fiance is right before the interview because it makes you feel like you belong here in the U.S. already....	Toronto Guy	Male	0	2009-05-26 11:52:00
Canada	Losing Sleep Over This - What Would You do?	"The language in which certificates and copies of an act are issued is the language in which the event was registered" http://www.etatcivil...e-copy-act.html I'm also one of the "lucky ones". My parents registered in English so I am able to request copies of my birth certificate in English.	GLo	Female	Canada	2010-06-16 09:43:00
Canada	Ease up on phone bills to your loved one	We use the following: Vonage (Unlimited plan) MSN Messenger (a great to see each other live on webcam) Ventrilo (for all those gamers and WoW players out there) Phone cards (you can get them extremely cheap in Toronto, but you'll be dialing alot of numbers lol)	GLo	Female	Canada	2010-06-16 09:32:00
Canada	Canadian Police check question	Just a FYI for those who are doing their police record check in Toronto. The process itself is much faster now. You can request a police check in person (by submitting a form) or online. For more details and the online forms, please visit http://www.torontopo...t/clearance.php I dropped off my form at the police headquarters (on Yonge and College) on Wednesday, November 10 and received my Clearance Letter on Tuesday, November 16. Total cost $28.25. Now if only our visa application was that fast...	GLo	Female	Canada	2010-11-18 14:33:00
Canada	DHL shipping P3 response *TO* Montreal	Just an update to give you an idea how fast Xpresspost delivery method is... I sent my P3 on December 6 and it was received on December 8. I received my P4 yesterday and so I logged on to schedule an interview. Umm...The next available interview is January 19, 2011 at 8:30am?	GLo	Female	Canada	2010-12-21 11:28:00
Canada	DHL shipping P3 response *TO* Montreal	I also opted out of DHL delivery and sent my P3 by XpressPost Canada. I live in Toronto and there is no DHL offices listed in the city (that really makes no sense to me) and the closest office is in Markham. I'd rather pay Canada Post to have my P3 delivered. For a full list of DHL offices and instruction go to http://www.usvisa-in...ier_information	GLo	Female	Canada	2010-12-06 14:53:00
Canada	Hotels in Montreal	Oh cool its up again! I just had my medical this morning. It will go fast if your veins will let them draw blood! I have my hotel booked for the Holiday Inn! I love the Holiday inn and they have never let me down before! You must be reading my mind. I was thinking of staying at Holiday Inn after reading really bad reviews of La Tour Centre-ville on Trip Advisor. I'm planning to take my sister for a trip to Montreal before my actual interview for some sightseeing and poutine. So I would love to hear about your experience. P.S. Read about your medical in Toronto. Small veins do suck. The good news is that it's over	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-02-01 16:24:00
Canada	Medical: Vaccination costs	Hmm...I don't think so. It's directly from the Physician Panels for Toronto and Montreal http://www.panelphysicians.com/ It looks like the requirements were "updated" on their site in 2008.	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-02-01 16:29:00
Canada	Medical: Vaccination costs	All the required vaccinations are listed on the Panel Physicians website. For ages 18 to 64 go to http://panelphysicia.../Pages/Age6.htm	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-02-01 16:12:00
Canada	vancouver vs montreal	What are the fees? I visited this site that the letter instructed me to: https://www.usvisa-i...efore_you_apply and it says I need to pay a fee. What is this fee for? I have already processed my DS-160. Is this fee the interview fee? I'm just worried that if I pay it it will not be refunded if i made a mistake. USD$350 for Fiancé(e) (K) visas used to be paid at the time of the interview (in case). However, it is now paid when you schedule your interview. And depending where you will get your medical examination completed. There is also a fee for it.	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-02-01 16:37:00
Canada	Toronto Medical Today.	Awesome! Thanks! They actually called me within 3-4 hours, but I was in a meeting at work and they left me a voice message on my cell and work number. I didn't know we can schedule an appointment by e-mail. I think I'll do it that way instead.	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-01-31 16:53:00
Canada	Toronto Medical Today.	Another REALLY stupid question before I go in two days, is the Exam costs in Canadian Currency or American? http://www.panelphys...s/ExamCosts.htm I would really hate to show up with only Canadian currency.. D: Thanks! Just scroll/glance down under the fees and it says "All fees are in Canadian dollars". Canadian and US dollars are almost at par at the moment. It's probably a good time to do some current exchange. On a somewhat related topic...Just tried to call and book a medical appointment in Toronto and I got the answer machine. Does anyone have an idea how long it takes for someone to get back to you?	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-01-31 14:52:00
Canada	Packet 4 Documents & Medical Exam	As stated by SF2007, you need 5 passport style photos (3 for the medical and 2 for the interview). I just had my medical done yesterday in Toronto and I was told I can pick up my results on Wednesday after noon (2 days). For details, please check out the Panel Physician website (http://www.panelphysicians.com/)	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-03-29 13:44:00
Canada	Dr. Seiden Toronto appointment scheduling wait times?	As mentioned above, you must have an appointment. I left a message and they called back within 24 hours and left a message. Rather than playing phone/voice mail tag, I actually e-mail Dr. Steiden's office (panel.physicians@panelphysicians.com). They replied within 24 hours. Just provide your name and your interview date. Edited by GLo, 08 April 2011 - 10:05 PM.	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-04-08 22:05:00
Canada	No available Appointments?	Hey guys, I was informed by DOS that packet 4 was sent to me, and im trying to book an interview in Montreal and its saying no available appointments at this time! What does this mean? I used to log in to the site and always there was available dates! This is most likely caused by the budget issue/government shut down. The good news is that they have reached an agreement regarding their budget so it means things should be back to normal soon.	GLo	Female	Canada	2011-04-08 22:09:00