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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (John and Luda @ Oct 24 2007, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Drew and Tik @ Oct 24 2007, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 24 2007, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well unless someone can dig the actual intent of the 90 days out of Google or something, I don't think the argument of why there is a 90 day period is going to be settled. I think it can be inferred though, since 90 days is a pretty significant period.


You think 90 days is a significant period of time?

I think what pushbrk said is close to hitting it on the nail. It is very difficult to plan a wedding and get everyone together when you have no idea when your visa will be issued or when your fiancee will be able to be with you. I plan on (hopefully) getting married in less than a year and I don't even know when Tik will be able to move here. I'm sure after she is finally issued the visa many months will have passed and we'll want to be together as soon as possible...that means we have less than 90 days + the time b/t issuance of the visa and her flight to New York to plan a wedding!


I couldn't take anymore of this and had to chime in. I totally agree with Drew and pushbrk, the 90 days isn't designed for you to figure out if you really want to get married or nor not. That decision should have already been made prior to filing the petition. The letter of intent to marry you sign is just that - you're telling the U.S. government you both have a bona fide intent to marry (within 90 days). Maybe you should try writing your letter stating "after a 90 day trial basis with my fiance' we may or may not get married." See how far that goes with the government. Also, lying to them about your true intent is not only unethical, but could also be considered fraud.


blink.gif to Tmma, and everyone else who said the exact same thing as we did tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 10:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
nm I misread!

Edited by LisaD, 24 October 2007 - 09:55 AM.

Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 09:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (AmericanGentleman @ Oct 24 2007, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Truth be told, 90 days of living with someone hardly scrathces the surface of getting to know someone and/or their true intentions. That being said, I think it is wrong to do stuff like snooping your fiance's emails back home. All your really doing when you do that is trying to validate and/or justify your own paranoia.

"What if he/she is only marrying me so he/she can come to the US?"....Probably the biggest fear from people in our cluster right? Well...what is really wrong with that reason? Does that automatically mean that the marriage will never be a good one? I think not. The bold truth is that we marry because we want a better life for ourselves. Would you think it such a bad thing if a single mom goes to single bars in hopes of finding a man to marry to help her raise her kids? Is it such a bad thing that a man might go to the same bar in hopes of finding a wife to take care of his house and to bear his children? Doesnt every woman dream of marrying a prince and becoming a princess? The initial reasons are all the same, we look for a partner to better and enrich our lives. There is no shame in it.

Modern culture seems stuck on the notion that we must be in love to marry. Historically, love was considered a bi-product of a good marriage and not an initial requirement for a marriage. The love that is generated from a good marriage is what truely keeps it all together. And that love can come regardless of the initial reason you got married. Maybe the reason America has a 53% divorce rate is because we base our marriages too much on love and not what generates that love.

Me and my fiance are extremely fond of each other, but we are not deeply in love yet. I could easily say we love each other, but we are both rationalists. We realize that it love, or the notion of love, at such an early stage of a relationship is more of a state of mind rather than a tried and tested cement between us. So we do not put on any airs to act otherwise. We have discussed this in great length and we have decided to base our marriage on respect and place our trust in each other. We both are 100% confident that we will grow to love each other deeply because we are going to build our marriage on a greater foundation than emotions.

I do not mean to discount any of you who are marrying and basing the foundation on your marriage on love. I only wanted to illustrate that it is ok to have a variety of reasons to initally marry. It is what you do in that marriage that will make it valid or a sham.



I don't personally agree with not marrying for love, but I do appreciate your honesty here, and I find it very refreshing!!!!

Thank you for being bold enough to be honest.
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 09:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 24 2007, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (LisaD @ Oct 24 2007, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can bet your azz that if you said it was a ''trial period' or 'cooling off' period, that you'd never have gotten approved. I think you're being a bit semantical in nature here...because while it's not a problem to marry at the end of the 90, it's not designed for the purpose of 'cooling off'. I mean focking hell, your fiance just got here and you're gonna 'cool off'????

Well unless someone can dig the actual intent of the 90 days out of Google or something, I don't think the argument of why there is a 90 day period is ..going to be settled. I think it can be inferred though, since 90 days is a pretty significant period.

And fine, I'll concede that "cooling off" was a poor choice of words, although quite frankly I don't think it's all that far off. MANY couples in the US these days live together before marrying, just to make sure they're doing the right thing. Call it cooling off, or a trial period or whatever. It happens, and although it may not be everyone's visions of rainbows and unicorns, it works for a lot of people. If both people are in agreement that they will use the 90 days in this manner, who are we to question it? If, on the other hand, only one partner sees it this way, then that's a problem.

In any case, I'll try this again: moving to a new country away from your friends and your family is a HUGE deal. Some people who had the best of intentions simply cannot deal with that shock. They love their partners, but ultimately cannot deal with the new life. It happens, and it happens a lot. There's no shame in taking the time available to make sure it's going to work. OTOH, some people just "know" and that's cool too.

I notice the most vehement opposition is coming from westerners, with the notable exception of pushbrk. It's one thing to move from Canada or Britain (where I lived for 3 years) to the US. Try moving from Malaysia or Russia or Japan. That's practically a move to another planet.


Why am I hearing that it's the 'big bad gov'ts fault for making me marry a stranger'? Big deal...it's practically another planet...there is plenty of opportunity for the USC to go there....you know, to take responsibility for their own relationship instead of b!tching about gov't restraints.

Again...you say 'cooling off' was a bad choice of words, then you say 'let's call it a cooling off'! That's so funny. But it's NOT a cooling off period...and furthermore...if the period was 180 days...I'm sure many would abuse it for the 'trial' aspect. Hey, if it doesn't work, ship her back and get a new one, eh? rolleyes.gif

But why a USC would delay getting their foreign partner on the path to a greencard is astounding.

You know what? If people have doubts and they still bring their partners over....they know what's what. Let's not even pretend that every marriage is full of love in the traditional sense....There are many lonely USCs and many desperate foreign SOs. And each benefits from the union. So hey...everyone's happy I suppose....but people need to realize what they have and not try putting lipstick on a pig making it be something else. If you're marrying someone you don't know....and you've uprooted that person from everything in her life....well 90 days isn't going to make a helluva lot of a difference, really. 'oh I didn't know her when she came, but 89 days later, we're soulmates!'


I mean really. Buyer Beware and all that jazz.....

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Don't use the 80s to justify marrying a stranger.

And don't take me out of context. I'm saying that the K-1 dates back to the '80's, when many of the assumptions that are being made in this argument didn't apply.
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And btw, did you actually READ your letter of intent that you signed? blink.gif

No, I just signed it. What's it say? rolleyes.gif


Don't be snide. It doesn't suit the conversation.
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 09:35:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
Great posts, guys! It's really comforting to see that there are those who agree with me & Tmma! laughing.gif

For a while I started to think we fell into an alternate universe
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 09:07:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (tmma @ Oct 24 2007, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 24 2007, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tmma @ Oct 24 2007, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the question I have-would the OP [ or did the OP] or his fiance go to the interview stating he /they would be using the 90 days as a sort of "trial" period? if so-it would make the letter of intent filed with the K-1 rather redundant, no?

The fact that the visa is good for 90 days pretty much implies a "cooling off" period was anticipated. Otherwise it would be more like 10 or 30 days. Remember that the K-1 dates back to the '80's. I don't know what the filing times were back then, but I'll bet you could get your "foreign bride" into the US within a couple months. Couple that with the fact that there was no internet to exchange emails and photos, plus the high cost of long distance, and you could be meeting someone at the airport who you fell in love with on vacation, but who you really don't know. So I don't think any interviewer would have a problem with the beneficiary saying at the interview that they were going to marry towards the end of the 90 day period. That's what it was designed for.

But that's not what you said at the beginning of this post...You said a " cooling off period"-go to the interview and say that.



QUOTE (LisaD @ Oct 24 2007, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 24 2007, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tmma @ Oct 24 2007, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the question I have-would the OP [ or did the OP] or his fiance go to the interview stating he /they would be using the 90 days as a sort of "trial" period? if so-it would make the letter of intent filed with the K-1 rather redundant, no?

The fact that the visa is good for 90 days pretty much implies a "cooling off" period was anticipated. Otherwise it would be more like 10 or 30 days. Remember that the K-1 dates back to the '80's. I don't know what the filing times were back then, but I'll bet you could get your "foreign bride" into the US within a couple months. Couple that with the fact that there was no internet to exchange emails and photos, plus the high cost of long distance, and you could be meeting someone at the airport who you fell in love with on vacation, but who you really don't know. So I don't think any interviewer would have a problem with the beneficiary saying at the interview that they were going to marry towards the end of the 90 day period. That's what it was designed for.


You can bet your azz that if you said it was a ''trial period' or 'cooling off' period, that you'd never have gotten approved. I think you're being a bit semantical in nature here...because while it's not a problem to marry at the end of the 90, it's not designed for the purpose of 'cooling off'. I mean focking hell, your fiance just got here and you're gonna 'cool off'????

Don't use the 80s to justify marrying a stranger.

And btw, did you actually READ your letter of intent that you signed? blink.gif

GMTA Lisa.


We're in tune as always, marra yes.gif
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 08:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 24 2007, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tmma @ Oct 24 2007, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the question I have-would the OP [ or did the OP] or his fiance go to the interview stating he /they would be using the 90 days as a sort of "trial" period? if so-it would make the letter of intent filed with the K-1 rather redundant, no?

The fact that the visa is good for 90 days pretty much implies a "cooling off" period was anticipated. Otherwise it would be more like 10 or 30 days. Remember that the K-1 dates back to the '80's. I don't know what the filing times were back then, but I'll bet you could get your "foreign bride" into the US within a couple months. Couple that with the fact that there was no internet to exchange emails and photos, plus the high cost of long distance, and you could be meeting someone at the airport who you fell in love with on vacation, but who you really don't know. So I don't think any interviewer would have a problem with the beneficiary saying at the interview that they were going to marry towards the end of the 90 day period. That's what it was designed for.


You can bet your azz that if you said it was a ''trial period' or 'cooling off' period, that you'd never have gotten approved. I think you're being a bit semantical in nature here...because while it's not a problem to marry at the end of the 90, it's not designed for the purpose of 'cooling off'. I mean focking hell, your fiance just got here and you're gonna 'cool off'????

Don't use the 80s to justify marrying a stranger.

And btw, did you actually READ your letter of intent that you signed? blink.gif
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 08:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
Let's be clear here: the 90 days is not a get to know you time.

If you need that time to get to know your fiance, you shouldn't have petitioned yet!
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-24 08:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
QUOTE (moxcamel @ Oct 23 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This was really good advice until the "key logger" thing. It's important to protect yourself, especially if you simply haven't been able to spend a lot of time with the person due to geography. But going the key logger route is a recipe for disaster. Think about this: what if you found out your partner had been key-logging you?

Building a relationship on trust doesn't mean you have to be a sucker, but it also means trusting that your partner will do the right thing. But I would definitely recommend marrying closer to the end of the 90 day period if you haven't been able to spend a significant amount of time with your fiance. It gives your partner time to really decide if they're going to be able to live in a new country, and it gives you both time to decide if you're right for each other. Truth be told, I wish the K-1 allowed for 180 days, because I think 90 days is just a bit too short. But that's what we have to work with, and it makes sense to use that time to the best advantage.



Again, the point many people miss is that the 90 days is NOT A GET TO KNOW YOU PERIOD! You should have already done that!

If anyone has serious doubts....jeeez, would it be such a stretch to FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE MARRYING before you petition your gov't for this person's admission into the country? Let alone all the upheaval to the foreign fiance.

Honestly, I cannot fathom how people are petitioning for others when it's clear they neither know nor trust their partners.

I'm not saying throw caution to the wind and marry someone that you don't trust. And I'm not justifying it by saying 'oh you can get used by an American, so it's not so bad'....but let's be real....if you've only met your fiance once and you two don't share a common language....if you think you're a sucker...then you probably are.
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-23 22:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
Oh, I forgot to mention!

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All of us have that little still voice or tug at our spirit that warns of
upcoming disaster, take a long long time to think about it before you get married.
There is nothing wrong with putting a key-logger program on your computer and monitoring
your beneficiaries email for a month. Find out what they are saying to people back home.
a little invasion of privacy is way better than having your life blown apart later, not to
mention the emotional devastation..


No, not all of us have that 'little still voice or tug at our spirit' no0pb.gif

And yes, there's SOOOOO much wrong with a key logger it's not even funny. Invasion privacy to the person you love is wrong on so many levels. I agree to the extent of 'if you have warning bells ringing, listen to them' but there's a lot to be said for taking your time and getting to REALLY know the person that you are uprooting to come and live a life of key loggers and whatnot.

I mean wow. Just wow.
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-23 21:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureshow to best use the 90 days prior to marriage k-1
All this 'get to know you' stuff should be done BEFORE the I-129F is even filled out good.gif I mean really, at the 90 day stage, your fiance(e) has already given up his/her life as (s)he knew it....job, home, family, etc....and to do the 'do I really know this person' scrutiny of looking at your fiance(e) under such a microscope AFTER the sacrifice has been made by your SO, is not only short sighted, it's selfish and cruel.
Anita CocktailMale02007-10-23 20:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFiancee is pregnant
hahahaha


meanwhile, if we leapfrogged all pregnancies, who's to say that the preg is even the result of that union....or will any pregnancy do?
Anita CocktailMale02006-05-19 10:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCan my US fiance just be refused time off for emmigrating/helping me move?
It's really a question of, does he want to rock the boat and lose the potential for all the time off for the wedding.

I just quit a menial, hourly job (sorry to put it that way, but that's the way I see it)...years ago, as I am self employed, and did not have enough history to satisfy the affidavit of support, I took a second job in a major department store's salon as a nail tech (am licensed for 20 years now). Anyways, I digress.

I stayed at the job because I liked it, was v good money, bennies and it was conducive to my schedule. But when I needed to use my accrued time off during a time that was not convenient for the company, they raised a major stink about it. LIKE, MAJOR. To the point that right before I went, the store manager was basically threatening me that I'd have no job to come back to. At that point, I told them to stuff it and I quit. It worked out fine for me because I anticipated such a problem, and also, it wasn't my primary job anyways, so I wasn't stuck for $$$. Had that been the case, I would have thought long and hard about it, because jobs are kinda hard to come by....no matter how sh!t the job is, there's 10 schmos behind you gagging for the chance to do yours.

Ironically, because of all my experience in the beauty field, they weren't able to replace me. They lost all my customers and now do not offer any acrylic services. Short sighted? Absolutely. But they took this 'we're in charge' stupid attitude, and now they lost because of it, and I'm sittin here laughin my azz off.

As far as the FMLA, I've seen that company get around things like that. Our receptionist was pregnant, and they wound up slowly cutting down her hours several months before her leave so that she no longer qualified for any job protection. She did consult various agencies that basically told her she had no recourse whatsoever.

Anyways, I'm rambling, lol...but I suppose my point is, you have to decide what's ultimately more important. Stand your ground and make waves, if you must. But realize that you're really not going to 'give employers a hard time if they mess you about' and come out smelling like a rose, either. Not with an entry level retail job.
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-08 10:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresG-325a please help
4 threads? Really?
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 11:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCould this be true?
When was the last time you saw him? Is this a 'meeting within the past 2 years' issue?
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-30 21:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresBio Father refusing to allow C.R. Passport.

Just wanted to add that it's probably worth getting both authorizations done at the same time, namely signing the passport form AND the permission letter.



^ I agree with this completely
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 11:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI Need Help....Unique situation??

All the same is true of a green card holder not just a dual citizen.


Interesting...I didn't know that.
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-28 09:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI Need Help....Unique situation??

As a US Citizen, she would be exempt on US taxes up to $86,000 USD. She would have to file yearly, yes, but can file for the foreign income exemption.


Thank you, it totally slipped my mind to add that. :blush:
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-28 08:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI Need Help....Unique situation??
Just bustin your chops, B! teehee
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 12:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI Need Help....Unique situation??
Hey, what am I? Chopped liver? :lol:

I will add one more thing though...if she claims dual citizenship, she will be subject to pay US taxes on her Aus income.
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 11:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI Need Help....Unique situation??
That's really a personal choice that only the two of you can answer. I can say that iirc, that even as a gc holder, if she came here for a brief period and then you both went back, she would lose status once she's out of the US for a certain length of time. So if you want her to come here, the only way to make it 'worth the effort' is to stick it out til she has her citizenship (does Aus allow dual?), THEN go back with her. But that will take several years. But that way, you will have more options should you both decide to eventually come back here.

Only you both know whether it's worth it or not. Or you could just have her come over, 'see' how it is, then go back...but if her situation is that much better than yours, is it worth possibly losing it for the 'off' chance she will like it better here?

You won't be filing with USCIS for CR-1 if you go there. You'd be dealing with Aus immigration. I suggest checking into what's req'd with that also before making your decision.

Best of luck!
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 11:28:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFlight transfer in US while waiting on K1
I have to say one thing, of course this is PURELY anecdotal.

I was detained for questioning when going into the UK...very long story, but to sum up, they thought I was secretly trying to immigrate due to the length of my stay and the fact that I brought an additional bag. Of course, it all worked out. But I was VERY knowledgeable about all my supporting documentation...and since I had nothing to hide, I laid it all out there.

I do think my proactive stance landed me in getting looked at closer. Had I just answered the q's with simple answers, I personally am of the notion that I wouldn't have even been detained. Subsequent trips there did give me an optty to 'test' it out...very concise, short but truthful answers. And I was never stopped again.

I do realize I'm talking about an entirely different country here, but I think that much like life, our mouths get us in trouble more times than we'd like.
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-29 11:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFlight transfer in US while waiting on K1
Hrmm, there seems to be a difference in opinion on this one....I would assume to say she's not actually entering the US, but based on the post above, if it's true that some airports don't have 'sterile' transfer areas, then I guess there's a possibility she'd have to clear customs. It sounds pretty inefficient to me, but hey, I don't make the rules.

Let's just assume for a second there isn't...she can bring proof of ties to Canada just on the off chance she gets questioned. However, I would say that since she is transferring planes, that alone is 'proof on onward passage' so I mean at the very worst...she gets detained (which I think the likelihood of that is close to 0), she could say 'hey, walk me to my plane and watch me leave'.

Either way, I'm basing my opinion on the fact that there's nothing to prevent a foreign national from visiting the US while a K petition is pending. That's been discussed a million times here, and I believe it's also in the stickied topics.

Have a great trip!
Anita CocktailMale02010-03-28 09:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedurescan we move out of u.s. immediately after getting married on k-1?
This is my speculation, but here goes: Sounds to me like the OP thinks that simply being engaged or just getting married to a USC will immediately positively affect his fiancee's passport. It will not.

I suggest the OP read up on immigration processes in not only America, but wherever their plans take them. Not only for her, but for his status as well, as it seems the OP has a 'I'll just go to this country and work' view on the world, which is incorrect.

Edited by Happy Bunny, 26 April 2010 - 08:45 AM.

Anita CocktailMale02010-04-26 08:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeed help

Why not get married just legally in city hall and have the wedding in December as planned? Most couples do that.



I don't think you understood the OP...
Anita CocktailMale02010-04-26 21:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresk1 lawyer

Si, man -- read the question accurately.


???
Anita CocktailMale02010-04-26 14:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresk1 lawyer
It's not wise to advise people to not get an atty if they are enquiring about one. Just my .02
Anita CocktailMale02010-04-26 10:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWIll an overstay automatically mean a denial?
Everyone needs to be really careful when advising someone to NOT use a lawyer. Remember, any advice you may have is purely anecdotal, and seeing as no one knows the OP personally and the ins and outs of his/her situation, I'd be very cautious in telling someone categorically that lawyers aren't any benefit in a particular situation.
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 07:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCuriosity
I am 6 mos pregnant and my fiance is with me, and I couldn't imagine doing this alone. My heart goes out to those who have to.
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 09:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAnnoyingly Trivial Questions... !
Here's a trivial q...instead of making 1000 different topics for each question, did you ever think to use the search button, read the stickies, check the wiki?

I'm not trying to sound snarky, but when half the topics on the front page are yours, it does make one wonder.
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 07:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFilling K1 out together

Why did 'otto und Karin' say that I dont need to bring my birth certificate (im not the USC)? Any other forgneirs who applied with (or without) birh certificate?



My bad, when I filed, I included it. Perhaps the rules have changed since then.

Perfect example of the necessity of reading the link I posted...I just re-read it to confirm, and indeed...Karen & Otto is correct.
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 09:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFilling K1 out together

So the get it all straigted out:

A fiance (not from the US) who is coming to the US to start filling the I-129F together, doesnt need to bring anything?


Nowhere did anyone say you should bring nothing with you. It really is imperative that both you and your fiancee read the guides. Who has what in terms of evidence depends on you...if she has the pics/boarding passes/etc, then no, you don't need to bring that with you. Of course you need your birth certificate, passport, etc.

What push and I are suggesting is that you both read those guides...it explains everything that you need to assemble your package. And as push said and I implied, understanding the process and what is req'd is infinitely better than expecting to be spoon fed your petition.

Good luck!
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 09:11:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresFilling K1 out together
http://www.visajourn...content/k1guide

Good luck!
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 08:04:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresBeginning my journey
There is nothing you can do prior to the marriage if you are planning to get married out of the country. Unfortunately, there is no 'we'll marry on x date and she can immigrate shortly thereafter' option.

If you were planning to marry WITHIN the US, you could file for a fiance visa now, then wait out the time. If you want to marry in Indonesia, you cannot file anything until after the wedding.

Is there a chance you could move up the wedding, then file? If your estimations of her not getting here until after April 2011, then if you married this year, that would suffice your personal timeline.

Good luck, and yes, read the guides, they are a Godsend.

Edited by Happy Bunny, 27 March 2010 - 11:08 AM.

Anita CocktailMale02010-03-27 11:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHow long before filing Fiance Visa
As Gary said. But keep in mind you both need to sign the letter of intent truthfully. If you are unsure yet, I'd wait until you can fill out and sign that with no reservations. Will save you headaches should you decide to not pursue marriage with this woman, then have to deal with canceling the application, then IF you fall in love again with another foreign national, and file, you won't be affected by IMBRA.
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 07:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNeeding Canadian fiance to move to US
Basically, what people are saying is that you don't have to do any fiance/wedding visa at all...because he is already here, and at the time of his entry into the US this time, he did not have intent to stay here. Meaning, you two could have just been sitting around, decided to get married, and voila! that is ok. If you two discussed this prior to his arrival, then that is not ok. Intent is key here.

So even though your ultimate plan was for him to immigrate here, the fact that his life is still intact in Canada somewhat proves that this particular visit did not have any intent to stay.

So, if you can, get married, file for AOS, and be happy. The important thing not to gloss over (that many have said already) is that your fiance will not be able to leave the country until he gets his greencard. Does he have friends/family who are willing to pack up his apt for him?

Good luck!
Anita CocktailMale02010-05-22 08:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAnybody want to post pics of their assembled I-129F package??
Please keep in mind that unless you are front loading for a particular reason (high fraud consulate/issue in personal history where a denial is likely), there is no need to barrage USCIS with crazy amounts of evidence. Your package is on someone's desk among countless others, and they have only so much desired time (to go through them. Tbh, the service center/approval process is the easy part, so I wouldn't go too OTT. Of course, make your point, but keep it simple.

There was a member here who previously processed apps for 'love bunnies' (marriage/fiance visas) for USCIS...and although I cannot remember his name, he posted in great detail what it was like to process the apps, and what they are looking for. Perhaps another old timer with a better memory will recall his name. I think it started with an H.

Edited by Happy Bunny, 17 May 2010 - 07:59 AM.

Anita CocktailMale02010-05-17 07:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRunning Out of Time

Why anyone would have a non-wedding wedding before the marriage just makes absolutely no sense to me anyways...all immigration legal stuff aside....

And never underestimate the stupidity of people!



For the same reason some of us have to have the legally-binding marriage before the wedding: it's what the circumstances require.



It's celebrating summat that hasn't happened, it's a pseudo-ceremony that essentially does nowt but potentially put you on the defense as having summat to hide during your visa processing.

You yourself said you prolly wouldn't do it, so I guess you're not really in a position to advocate the merits of such, no?



As I've said, I haven't advocated or recommended either option. I 've said what I believe the options are, based on what I know.

And I'm glad that is YOUR opinion of what a wedding or a marriage means. But it doesn't apply to all. For example, we won't be able to be married in the church for likely quite awhile after he gets here. But we'll have 90 days for the legal part. However married I consider myself to be, in the spirtual sense, is between me, my fiance, and my God. If for any couple, the marriage isn't meaningful unless it is in front of the church and the family, then that's the part that will count long term and probably the date celebrated as an anniversay. Which is why I distinguish between the cultural rite of passage that is a wedding and the legal, contractual relationship that is a marriage.

There's NOTHING TO HIDE if you aren't actually getting married. But that shouldn't be confused with a license to be a bonehead when presenting oneself at an interview or the POE.

Seriously - let's not get into discussing the validity of wedding ceremonies vs. legal marriages and which should mean more to someone and why. It's just going to end up insulting people and will be unfruitful. Not to mention, completely irrelevant to the base question here which was "#######, what do we do."

And the first thing I said to them was "change your plans."



First of all, you've taken summat I've said & you're running to Calcutta with it....

1) I wasn't directing the comment to you, as you've already said you prolly wouldn't do it.
2) I'm not sitting here asking for you to defend your suggestion either.
3) As Becs has already pointed out, you advocated both positions. I don't much care, but I have to wonder what you think advocating or reccommending summat is, if you did neither. But this is just splitting hairs cos it's moot anyways.

4) TO ME, a wedding ceremony that is not a wedding doesn't make much sense...it's neither legal nor a celebration of anything that has happened. TO ME it seems like it's a lot of chew for summat that has the ability to throw a major spanner into plans. Everyone here is v familiar with the whole 'legal first, church later' thing...and I can wrap my head round that because once you have the legal ceremony, the big wedding is a celebration of that union. So the celebration first seems to me like putting the cart before the horse, and again, speaking for myself only.....I'd feel like the whole thing was a dress rehearsal & I'd also feel a bit cheated on the actual wedding day that my 'hoopla' wasn't to follow.

Edited by LisaD, 01 May 2007 - 05:52 PM.

Anita CocktailMale02007-05-01 17:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRunning Out of Time

Why anyone would have a non-wedding wedding before the marriage just makes absolutely no sense to me anyways...all immigration legal stuff aside....

And never underestimate the stupidity of people!



For the same reason some of us have to have the legally-binding marriage before the wedding: it's what the circumstances require.



It's celebrating summat that hasn't happened, it's a pseudo-ceremony that essentially does nowt but potentially put you on the defense as having summat to hide during your visa processing.

You yourself said you prolly wouldn't do it, so I guess you're not really in a position to advocate the merits of such, no?
Anita CocktailMale02007-05-01 16:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresRunning Out of Time
Why anyone would have a non-wedding wedding before the marriage just makes absolutely no sense to me anyways...all immigration legal stuff aside....

And never underestimate the stupidity of people!

Edited by LisaD, 01 May 2007 - 04:16 PM.

Anita CocktailMale02007-05-01 16:15:00