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Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionOld TSC cases transferred to VSC
QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 13 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...hmmm... I wonder if they will process the applications first whose extension letter is on about to expire. Mine is still good till May... Junglee's expires in March... so they will have to get active now to make the mark..... and big surprise... his case just got touched.
Anyone know whose extension will expire first? Is Junglee the first of the few of us?


I don't know if they would necessarily sort the petitions by the date the one year extension is to expire. That would require a bit more effort than sorting them by NOA1 date (i.e., they would have to check the green card expiration date). But who knows . . . .
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-13 13:50:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionOld TSC cases transferred to VSC
Updating Jun . . . .



UserName............NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
A_C.................02/21/07........03/15/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
ihateemo............03/03/07........04/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
tweety..............03/09/07........04/06/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
George0424..........03/12/07........04/05/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
junglee069..........03/13/07........04/14/07........02/13/08........--/--/--
burs................03/19/07........04/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
moben...............03/20/07........03/28/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
kn687...............03/21/07........03/29/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
kalstravels.........03/23/07........04/20/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
Abygail.............03/29/07........04/21/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
mississippigal17....04/10/07........--/--/--........02/04/08........--/--/--
us1415..............04/18/07........05/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
licianne............04/20/07........04/25/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (senator involved)
James...............04/20/07........05/31/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/25/07........05/24/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
smartie.............05/03/07........06/09/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/09/07........06/04/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/19/07........06/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/30/07........06/18/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
imailin.............06/07/07........08/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-13 12:51:00
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QUOTE (junglee069 @ Feb 13 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i got touched - 2/13 - it's odd, here's the latest as it appears on the uscis site:

QUOTE
Application Type: CRI89, PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS RECEIVED

Current Status: This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred.

The CRI89 PETITION TO REMOVE CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS RECEIVED was transferred and is now pending standard processing at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address. We process cases in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when this case will be done, counting from when USCIS received it. Follow the link below to check processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. To receive e-mail updates, follow the link below to register.



Huh! I didn't get one of those, or at least not yet. Maybe they're going through the pile in order of NOA1s. Anyway, this must be the "received at VSC" touch -- the one on Feb. 4 being the janitor taking the files out of his closet in the TSC basement men's room to load them up on a 35 mph mail truck for the 8-day drive up to VSC.

I know it's stock language, but I hope the "we" in "We process cases in the order we receive them" is USCIS and not VSC.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-13 12:47:00
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QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 12 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (vivira @ Feb 12 2008, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (smartie @ Feb 12 2008, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you James!




Today I received the I-797C transfer notice. It is interesting to see the line: Case Type CRI89 "Approved Removal of Conditions (I89)". It says that in order to speed up processing, they have transferred to the Vermont Center. I wish I knew how to "decode" these messages... wondering if they meant that the case was approved, and Vermont will speed up processing by ordering the card. My envelope was postmarked 2/5/2008. - vivira.



A lot of us received letters with the exact same wording. We're all waiting to see what it means. smile.gif


I'm probably repeating myself, but I think if TSC adjudicators had actually had "approved" all of our petitions, they would have just ordered card production, not shipped all of the petitions off to VSC. More likely, they just took all petitions that had not yet hit an adjudicators desk -- roughly, those with NOA1s of late February and later -- and shipped 'em off. Although I still don't understand why some late June NOA1s are apparently still there (e.g., muergana, and also apparently Reinhard/Mr. Big Dog, who still hasn't checked in here).
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-13 07:12:00
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QUOTE (smartie @ Feb 12 2008, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you James.
my I 751 reciept date is 05/03/07 biometrics is 06/09/2007. I thought I got it right. sorry...


Ah, I picked it up from your post on the master list and thought that the 5/3 date you listed first was for the "Date I-751 Sent" column there that we've done away with here.



UserName............NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
A_C.................02/21/07........03/15/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
ihateemo............03/03/07........04/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
tweety..............03/09/07........04/06/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
George0424..........03/12/07........04/05/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
junglee069..........03/13/07........04/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
burs................03/19/07........04/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
moben...............03/20/07........03/28/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
kn687...............03/21/07........03/29/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
kalstravels.........03/23/07........04/20/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
Abygail.............03/29/07........04/21/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
mississippigal17....04/10/07........--/--/--........02/04/08........--/--/--
us1415..............04/18/07........05/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
licianne............04/20/07........04/25/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (senator involved)
James...............04/20/07........05/31/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/25/07........05/24/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
smartie.............05/03/07........06/09/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/09/07........06/04/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/19/07........06/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/30/07........06/18/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
imailin.............06/07/07........08/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-12 08:59:00
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Bumping list and adding smartie (fka disneyworld), who didn't provide a biometrics date in the master list thread . . . .


UserName............NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
A_C.................02/21/07........03/15/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
ihateemo............03/03/07........04/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
tweety..............03/09/07........04/06/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
George0424..........03/12/07........04/05/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
junglee069..........03/13/07........04/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
burs................03/19/07........04/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
moben...............03/20/07........03/28/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
kn687...............03/21/07........03/29/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
kalstravels.........03/23/07........04/20/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
Abygail.............03/29/07........04/21/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
mississippigal17....04/10/07........--/--/--........02/04/08........--/--/--
us1415..............04/18/07........05/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
licianne............04/20/07........04/25/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (senator involved)
James...............04/20/07........05/31/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/25/07........05/24/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/09/07........06/04/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/19/07........06/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/30/07........06/18/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
imailin.............06/07/07........08/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
smartie.............06/09/07........??/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-12 08:02:00
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QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 11 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (vivira @ Feb 11 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello all... I would like to learn how to interpret the processing dates. My case was received by TSC on June 18, 2007, and like many of you, transferred to Vermont on 1/31/08. I am having a hard time understanding how they could possibly process the cases any faster than TSC if the dates went back a few months. helpsmilie.gif



Because I don't believe they were actually processing cases dated in April. I think that date was a lie.


Just my humble opinion of course biggrin.gif


C'mon, don't pull any punches -- it's fact. TSC was processing February 2007 petitions when they shipped them out, not April 2007. And VSC is (or was) processing August 2007 petitions, not March 2007. Now VSC presumably really is processing March 2007 petitions -- from TSC.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-12 07:33:00
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QUOTE (kbf @ Feb 9 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is processing???? I mean if they are approved or reviewed??? just curious, if anybody knows more about processing after approvals or being reviewed???


I think any "preliminary processing" was merely the receipt of biometrics info for the case. If an adjudicator in TSC had a file on his or her desk, he or she would have gone on and finished adjudicating it, not packed it up and sent it to VSC. Thus, the cases sent to VSC are no "further along" then a non-transferred VSC case for which biometrics was just done a week ago. The only difference is that the transferred cases are (presumably) at the head of the queue.

Also, note the last official processing time posted for VSC -- it was March 1. That more or less corresponds with the oldest TSC cases (most of the February NOA1s were either approved or got RFEs). VSC actual processing time was much shorter, by a good 4 or even 5 months. So by taking on all of these older cases, the posted VSC processing time is now accurate.

Anyway, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it. At least until after lunch.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-11 11:32:00
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QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 8 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (kalstravels @ Feb 8 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also got the notice in the mail yesterday, indicating transfer to Vermont. It was postmarked Feb. 5 2008.

And I do not think any of us are approved. And yes, since we have a receipt date of March 23, 2007, we will have to wait as Vermont indicates March 1, 2007.

Also, I think "ihateemo" said she called the Hotline and the lady on the other line said she was approved. I think that is wishful thinking, because when I called the Hotline on Jan 18. 2008, the lady also said "approved" but it was in the same sentence as "CRI89 Approved Removal of Conditions". So I asked for clarfication of "approved" and it turns out that this is simply how the USCIS "classifies" pending petitions for our category. This is really cruel as it is misleading, but this is the wording they have chosen to assign our category.
...


Thanks for this info - very helpful. It could all just be an audit trick TSC uses to not raise any questions about some applications rotting in their basements.... does TSC have audits at all? I would love to have word with these ppl.... lol



I think that would be like having a word with the guy at the drive through window at Burger King. The only thing you would get is a slack-jawed blank stare.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-08 12:51:00
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QUOTE (kalstravels @ Feb 8 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we all need to be a little patient. The automatic 1 year notice of extension is good for travel, my wife has travelled to Canada and back to the US where they recoginized the letter after her green card was swiped as being expeired. The US Immigration Official just waved her on.


You're right, of course, but I just love process, that's all. My wife could give a flying farfugnugen about this b/c with two kids, it's not like there is much of a chance of our petition being denied. (I will blow a gasket, however, if we get an RFE for more financial info or something like that.)
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-08 12:44:00
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QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 8 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (James @ Feb 8 2008, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We got ours yesterday, too, and it also says the same thing. The "approved" wording raised my eyebrows as well. Although you'd think if it were really approved, they would tell you that it's been approved and that card production has been ordered (through VSC?).

I do note that according to the notice's lengthy paragraph about processing times, you and I and the rest of the later Losers who have been on the far side of the creeping April processing date that TSC has been posting for months are now even further away from the processing date because VSC's posted date is March 1, 2007!

(Tweety, that means you are back within the processing time! No service request for you!)



I hear you James, I try not to get too excited seeing the word approved, it seems like a cruel joke in the light of the processing time paragraph. I have already resigned myself that I will be one of the last Losers to be approved!


There are a good month of transferred Losers after you, Cassie, so you definitely won't be alone. Although it is curious why they didn't transfer everyone up through the end of June. I'm basing that assumption on the fact muergana wasn't transferred, and that Reinhard/Mr. Big Dog has not stopped in. He is around over in Off Topic, but I suspect he would show up here if he had been transferred, if only to say, "WHEW! Glad I'm out of Texas!"
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-08 12:40:00
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QUOTE (Aussielad @ Feb 8 2008, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so James, when you mentioned the above, with no service requested thing, does that mean approved? or "interview"...?? wow this is getting confusing.

One more thing........


Do you count 6 months back from their priority date??? because i did mine in September, someone said you count back 6 months and thats where they really at. is that true???


because if so, ours should be adjudicated this month then.


No, the "no service request for you" was directed at Tweety, who had put in a service request months ago when the posted TSC processing date finally passed her March NOA1 date (you can't put in for a service request until your NOA1 date is earlier than the posted processing date). Now that she is at VSC, which has a posted processing date of March 1, 2007, she is back within the posted processing time and suddenly ineligible for service requests. (Not that they do any good.)

From what I've seen here on the main list, VSC has (or had) been consistently approving I-751s just about 6 months from the NOA1 date, despite the posted processing time. So if you filed at VSC in September, you probably could count on being approved in March. But I have no idea what affect this bulk transfer from TSC will have (and let's not forget the transfers from TSC of all new petitions being filed there, which has been going on since December.)

The problem with guessing where VSC is at right now is that the VSC filers on the master list who would have been approved or are up for approval -- ForYou and gwsmith01 -- haven't been around in ages.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-08 12:35:00
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QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 7 2008, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 7 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,
Just got the I797C, Notice of action in the mail. It has the same TSC case number I had before and it was sent from Texas Service Center.
Notice Type: Transfer Notice, the notice date is February 01, 2008 and receipt date March 09, 2007.

What's weird is that in the upper right corner under case type it reads:
" CRI89 Approved Removal of Conditions (I89)"
(I wonder if it means that all transfers will only get card processing done, i.e. we are already approved?!?)

The notice itself says:
" This is to advise you that in order to speed up processing we have transferred the above case to the following USCIS office for processing: Vermont Service center....."


I don't really know what to make of it. So will just sit back and wait what happens next (hopefully soon).



My letter says the exact same thing tweety, and I noticed that particular wording in the top right hand corner as well. Will be interesting to see what this all means.


We got ours yesterday, too, and it also says the same thing. The "approved" wording raised my eyebrows as well. Although you'd think if it were really approved, they would tell you that it's been approved and that card production has been ordered (through VSC?).

I do note that according to the notice's lengthy paragraph about processing times, you and I and the rest of the later Losers who have been on the far side of the creeping April processing date that TSC has been posting for months are now even further away from the processing date because VSC's posted date is March 1, 2007!

(Tweety, that means you are back within the processing time! No service request for you!)
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-08 06:53:00
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Just keeping the list active. Is anyone missing (or does anyone new need/want to be added)?


UserName............NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
A_C.................02/21/07........03/15/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
ihateemo............03/03/07........04/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
tweety..............03/09/07........04/06/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
George0424..........03/12/07........04/05/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
junglee069..........03/13/07........04/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
burs................03/19/07........04/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
moben...............03/20/07........03/28/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
kn687...............03/21/07........03/29/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
kalstravels.........03/23/07........04/20/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
Abygail.............03/29/07........04/21/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
mississippigal17....04/10/07........--/--/--........02/04/08........--/--/--
us1415..............04/18/07........05/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
licianne............04/20/07........04/25/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (senator involved)
James...............04/20/07........05/31/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/25/07........05/24/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/09/07........06/04/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/19/07........06/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/30/07........06/18/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
imailin.............06/07/07........08/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-07 07:27:00
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I thought we would have gotten the notice about the transfer in the mail by now (by yesterday's mail, actually -- five days from them sending the notice out the day after the date on the notice). It probably doesn't say anything different than the online case status message, but I'm curious. Anyone get theirs yet?
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-07 07:21:00
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QUOTE (Aussielad @ Feb 6 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah, but James, im eligable in August to send off for naturalization. I sent off the I-751 like in september of 2007, so if its a 6 month mark, that means next month i should be approved, if not, then, i guess maybe....maybe at the rate VSC is going, by the time i send off the N-400, and get called for an interview THEN it might be approved at the rate the VSC is working.

And we pay $545 in the price increase for a slower service??? what i believe is that its just bad management at the top when they switched people to Emilio Gonzalez.

i bet the former director would've had it under control.


Even if VSC approvals do back up because of all of the new transfers, it'd probably only be another three months, so you'd still get approved by June. Plus, who knows, maybe with the fee increase, whatever new workers they hired have finally gone "online" at VSC and there won't be any additional backlog. Unlikely, but who knows.

But you're right -- the fee increase was a clown move by USCIS. They raised the fees so they could clear whatever backlogs they had, and ended up creating bigger backlogs because of the rush of people who filed before the fee increases. (Ironically, all of those people who rushed to beat the fee increase and filed at TSC and NSC were long ago approved by CSC.)

Edited by James, 07 February 2008 - 07:12 AM.

JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-07 07:08:00
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QUOTE (lovedolphins @ Feb 6 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then there's our case, which was just shunted to the back of the line with the lovely RFE we received...

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Look at it this way: there can only be a few I-751s left at TSC, all from RFEs from February. I'd bet you'll be approved before any of us if you've responded to the RFE promptly.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-06 16:19:00
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QUOTE (baunzerbrudi @ Feb 6 2008, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is Wednesday and we still don't have any approval notices? I was hoping the transfers would spark fireworks of action..back in the waiting game I guess....


I just checked -- I haven't even been touched for TWO WHOLE DAYS.

I'm calling my Senator's office . . . .
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-06 16:13:00
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QUOTE (Aussielad @ Feb 6 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
will filing the N-400 will push the adjudiaction of the I-751 then when its time???


It can -- , from what I understand, an N-400 interview with a still-pending I-751 will usually force adjudication of the I-751 right then and there by the interviewing officer -- but unless the time for VSC approvals stretches out to a year from the current 6 to possibly 9 months, your I-751 will be approved well before you are eligible to apply for naturalization.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-06 14:46:00
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QUOTE (ihavenoclue @ Feb 6 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i recieved the email stating that my case has been moved to VSC, but i have not gotten the letter saying why and it says in the email that im to follow the instructions provided on the notice. Anyone have any idea what the instructions are?


I haven't gotten the actual letter yet either. But it probably only says something earthshaking like let us know if you move, that kind of thing.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-06 12:44:00
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QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (James @ Feb 5 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (James @ Feb 5 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 5 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
love the new logo James! good.gif


ditto! and James, mind a new logo for our signatures as well?



Done! Copy and paste this into your sigs: http://img409.images...sclosersqq0.jpg


Love it! Thanks James!


You're welcome!

So . . . anybody approved this morning? huh.gif

Tweety, you're only third on the list! You could be on some VSC adjudicator's desk RIGHT NOW!


OMG! I'm so excited! Just think about it... someone might actually read through all these pages of paperwork we submitted.... who knows...But may-be it's just the historical restaurateur working to make them old pages legible again lol


Could be, I bet the toilets in the TSC basement men's room backed up a few times and flooded the janitorial closet where they were storing our cases.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 17:44:00
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QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (James @ Feb 5 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 5 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
love the new logo James! good.gif


ditto! and James, mind a new logo for our signatures as well?



Done! Copy and paste this into your sigs: http://img409.images...sclosersqq0.jpg


Love it! Thanks James!


You're welcome!

So . . . anybody approved this morning? huh.gif

Tweety, you're only third on the list! You could be on some VSC adjudicator's desk RIGHT NOW!
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 12:59:00
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QUOTE (tweety @ Feb 5 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Cassie @ Feb 5 2008, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
love the new logo James! good.gif


ditto! and James, mind a new logo for our signatures as well?



Done! Copy and paste this into your sigs: http://img409.images...sclosersqq0.jpg
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 11:48:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionOld TSC cases transferred to VSC
QUOTE (baunzerbrudi @ Feb 5 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, at least you could hang up on her..imagine her being your officer at a point of entry or interview!
with all TSC cases at Vermont I don't know if they push everything back 3 months or if 3 months worth of old TSC petitions might not all get done in a shorter time. If it took 3 months for me to get approved, all VSC filers now would have an additional 3 month waiting time!


I note aussielad is getting burned up about that possibility in another thread. He's only been waiting five months . . . so he has to wait eight months total, it's still less than any of us.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 11:41:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionOld TSC cases transferred to VSC
QUOTE (baunzerbrudi @ Feb 5 2008, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks good to me..anyone want to bet if we get touched again soon? I think there will either be a lot of action within 2 weeks since we are in front of everyone else..otherwise we are treated as newbies and wait another 7 month period!!!


You have to believe all of the transferred cases are at the top of the pile. The newest of those cases is still older than than the oldest petition that was filed directly at VSC.

Within that pile, though, you and I are probably 2 and 3 months down, respectively, because the oldest transferred petition is from mid-late February. Which means, barring some miracle, we'll probably get approved at around the one-year mark of our NOA1s.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 08:38:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionOld TSC cases transferred to VSC
Taking my own advice -- here is the new Loser list for those of us who filed in TSC between February and June 2007 and were just transferred to VSC on Jan. 31 after enduring all of that time at TSC. (If you are someone who just filed at TSC and were instantly transferred to VSC, this isn't the place for you.)

The TSC-VSC Losers in the hizzy!


UserName............NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Last Touch......Approved
A_C.................02/21/07........03/15/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
ihateemo............03/03/07........04/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
tweety..............03/09/07........04/06/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
George0424..........03/12/07........04/05/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
junglee069..........03/13/07........04/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
burs................03/19/07........04/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
moben...............03/20/07........03/28/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
kn687...............03/21/07........03/29/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
kalstravels.........03/23/07........04/20/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (service request)
Abygail.............03/29/07........04/21/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
mississippigal17....04/10/07........--/--/--........02/04/08........--/--/--
us1415..............04/18/07........05/12/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
licianne............04/20/07........04/25/07........02/04/08........--/--/-- (senator involved)
James...............04/20/07........05/31/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Angel7422...........04/25/07........05/24/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
Cassie..............05/09/07........06/04/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
baunzerbrudi........05/19/07........06/14/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
rhenryv.............05/30/07........06/18/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
imailin.............06/07/07........08/??/07........02/04/08........--/--/--
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-05 07:31:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionDo they cash the check for I751 before sending out NOA1?
QUOTE (JeffandRebecca @ Oct 11 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A quick question. Do they cash your check for I751 before sending out NOA1?

I have seen someone's check got cashed in 3-4 days after the petiion had been received. Some take longer.

Thank you!


My NOA1 was dated three days before the date my check cleared the bank. But I didn't receive the NOA1 until more than two weeks after the date on it. Make of that what you will.
JamesNot TellingColombia2007-10-11 13:36:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionLeasons Learned (I-751)
QUOTE (Sheriff Uling @ May 7 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
***BIG BOOTY BUMP***

Any news since the last bump that anyone wants to share?


Yeah, I posted in this thread when you first started it over a year ago and I'm STILL waiting for the I-751 to be approved.

Lesson learned? Republicans do an awful job of running the government.

On edit: heh, I note that my last post in this thread was made on April 18, 2007, the very day I sent in the I-751.

Edited by James, 07 May 2008 - 02:07 PM.

JamesNot TellingColombia2008-05-07 14:05:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionLeasons Learned (I-751)

In the mean time my wife's passport has expired and she needs her green card to renew it.


The Chinese government won't renew her Chinese passport unless she actually has her U.S. 10-year card? That's very odd. Why should whatever documentation a Chinese national has to reside in a foreign country affect whether the Chinese national is entitled to renew a Chinese passport?
JamesNot TellingColombia2007-04-18 06:57:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionLeasons Learned (I-751)

Lesson learned:

it's wise to include passport photos, after all they did ask for them :blush:

I left mine out of my package but waited until I'd received my NOA then sent them on with a photocopy of the NOA and a very short note reading
"this is an addition to my I-751 application"
I also wrote on the envelope my A# and that this is additional info for my I-751 application. Surprisingly it was attached to my file and all was well - great job!


Passport photos are only necessary for those who reside overseas pursuant to military or government orders -- regular folk no longer need submit such photos because USCIS is now taking photos of I-751 petitioners at the biometrics appointment.
JamesNot TellingColombia2007-04-16 08:21:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionWhy are you in hurry anyway?
QUOTE (iansig40 @ Feb 22 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (smartie @ Feb 22 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious.

Why you want it to be approved fast?

In my case I didn't care till recently. If I wasn't changing my job, I wouldn't care to wait.

I am applying for a very competitive position now. I just hope my pending status won't give them reason to not give me the job.
Why do you need to get approved fast?


The most stupid question I ever heard here on VJ


Heh, I'm going to do your blood pressure a favor Ian and tell you to avoid someone's post on the previous page about how the N400 can force the I751 . . . .
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-22 12:33:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionWhy are you in hurry anyway?
QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Feb 22 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (smartie @ Feb 22 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Feb 22 2008, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (smartie @ Feb 22 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you.

This is very helpful. Here is what I have:

1)Drivers license
2) Expired conditional resident card (will be one year expired in July) and I797

I don't have unrestricted social security card and my passport from my country is expired.

What should I do? I might have to do my paperwork this summer after I797 expired.


From the I-751 Guide:

QUOTE
You will receive a notice of receipt for the form stating that "Your alien card is extended one year - employment and travel authorized". Keep the receipt with your green card. If by some chance you are not approved within a year you will want to make an InfoPass appointment to go to your Local Office to request an I-551 stamp in your passport. This does happen as it sometimes it takes over a year to be approved. After your NOA extension expires, this is your only evidence of legal status which you are required to have, by law. This happens occasionally, that a case takes over a year, but it's rare. Local Offices will not give an I-551 stamp is you have another type of evidence of status (ie, expired Green Card + extension letter).
http://www.visajourn...p;page=751guide

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So I do need to renew my passport after all as I cannot get I551 in my expired passport? It is extra cost and takes forever. Thanks!
Thay can and do put the I-551 stamp in expired passports. The passport can be expired, it still serves as valid ID, just not valid for international travel.



Kindly stop spreading misinformation. Even assuming a local office will stamp an unexpired passport, that establishes neither ID nor employment eligibility. List A of acceptable documents for the I-9 expressly requires an unexpired foreign passport with an I-551 stamp to establish ID and employment eligibility.

http://www.uscis.gov...es/form/i-9.pdf
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-02-22 12:21:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionCSC I-751 Status List
Adding Minfay.

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved
andresamia...........06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--
sara535..............09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--
Sofargone............01/15/08..........01/22/08........02/12/08........03/27/08
junejr...............01/22/08..........01/25/08........02/13/08........--/--/--
siy70................01/27/08..........01/31/08........03/07/08........05/20/08
radacos..............01/28/08..........01/28/08........02/25/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
bluegirl.............02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--
kikiwiki.............02/15/08..........02/19/08........03/14/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
mellie...............02/15/08..........--/--/--........02/24/08........05/30/08 (>NSC)
lilshe...............02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--
Ashish...............02/25/08..........02/27/08........03/31/08........06/03/08 (>NSC)
tokinho..............02/25/08..........03/04/08........03/18/08........--/--/--
tsunamihart..........02/26/08..........03/04/08........--/--/--........05/30/08 (>NSC)
mikeH................03/06/08..........03/07/08........05/13/08........06/17/08
Carolyn..............03/12/08..........03/13/08........04/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Perfect (K2).........03/14/08..........03/17/08........04/17/08........07/02/08
Blooberry............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/19/08........--/--/--
LindsC...............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
newoption............03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--
aztoca...............04/01/08..........04/03/08........04/30/08........--/--/--
Minfay...............04/01/08..........04/03/08........05/02/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
kc456................04/09/08..........04/10/08........05/09/08........--/--/--
hello28..............04/14/08..........04/15/08........05/13/08........--/--/--
sjjp1974.............04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
grrltraveler.........04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
douglassheridan......05/03/08..........05/09/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
felshen..............05/12/08..........05/20/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
soulmate.............05/19/08..........05/20/08........06/13/08........--/--/--
gurney...............06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--/.......--/--/--
Wifey246.............06/18/08..........06/19/08........07/26/08........--/--/--
walls1010............06/21/08..........06/26/08........--/--/--........--/--/--
Yorkie...............06/26/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Mrs.J06..............07/01/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
Jonesie..............06/28/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

IMPORTANT!
Before you edit this list, please make sure that your VJ Text Editor setting is set
to Rich Text Editor. DO NOT JUST COPY AND PASTE. You can change your Text
Editor as follows:
1. Click on My Controls at the top of the page.
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Then go to the most recently posted version of this list (go to the last post and
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* Please DO NOT change the font, font size, add colors, stuff like that.
* Please PREVIEW before posting to make sure it is properly formatted. (A common
mistake is somehow screwing up so you have <b> and </b> HTML tags in these very
instructions instead of actual boldfaced text.)
REMEMBER: "Date of I-751" is the date you sent your petition - NOT the date it
arrived at the service center. "NOA1 Date" is the 'Notice Date' shown on the NOA1 —
NOT the date you received it.
PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THESE INSTRUCTIONS - Thanks!
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-07-08 08:32:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionCSC I-751 Status List
QUOTE (walls1010 @ Jul 7 2008, 05:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Instructions? I don't need no stinking instructions.


You can always just ask to have someone put your info in if you can't figure it out.

UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved
andresamia...........06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--
sara535..............09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--
Sofargone............01/15/08..........01/22/08........02/12/08........03/27/08
junejr...............01/22/08..........01/25/08........02/13/08........--/--/--
siy70................01/27/08..........01/31/08........03/07/08........05/20/08
radacos..............01/28/08..........01/28/08........02/25/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
bluegirl.............02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--
kikiwiki.............02/15/08..........02/19/08........03/14/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
mellie...............02/15/08..........--/--/--........02/24/08........05/30/08 (>NSC)
lilshe...............02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--
Ashish...............02/25/08..........02/27/08........03/31/08........06/03/08 (>NSC)
tokinho..............02/25/08..........03/04/08........03/18/08........--/--/--
tsunamihart..........02/26/08..........03/04/08........--/--/--........05/30/08 (>NSC)
mikeH................03/06/08..........03/07/08........05/13/08........06/17/08
Carolyn..............03/12/08..........03/13/08........04/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Perfect (K2).........03/14/08..........03/17/08........04/17/08........07/02/08
Blooberry............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/19/08........--/--/--
LindsC...............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
newoption............03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--
aztoca...............04/01/08..........04/03/08........04/30/08........--/--/--
kc456................04/09/08..........04/10/08........05/09/08........--/--/--
hello28..............04/14/08..........04/15/08........05/13/08........--/--/--
sjjp1974.............04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
grrltraveler.........04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
douglassheridan......05/03/08..........05/09/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
felshen..............05/12/08..........05/20/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
soulmate.............05/19/08..........05/20/08........06/13/08........--/--/--
gurney...............06/04/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--/.......--/--/--
Wifey246.............06/18/08..........06/19/08........07/26/08........--/--/--
walls1010............06/21/08..........06/26/08........--/--/--........--/--/--
Yorkie...............06/26/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Mrs.J06..............07/01/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--
Jonesie..............06/28/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/--

IMPORTANT!
Before you edit this list, please make sure that your VJ Text Editor setting is set
to Rich Text Editor. DO NOT JUST COPY AND PASTE. You can change your Text
Editor as follows:
1. Click on My Controls at the top of the page.
2. Click on Board settings at the lower left of the page.
3. In the drop down box under Posting Settings, change the type of editor
from Standard to Rich Text.
4. Save this change by clicking on the "Change my Account Options" button.
Then go to the most recently posted version of this list (go to the last post and
scroll UP) and "Reply" to it, deleting the "quote" tags at the beginning AND END of
your reply.
* Please DO NOT change the font, font size, add colors, stuff like that.
* Please PREVIEW before posting to make sure it is properly formatted. (A common
mistake is somehow screwing up so you have <b> and </b> HTML tags in these very
instructions instead of actual boldfaced text.)
REMEMBER: "Date of I-751" is the date you sent your petition - NOT the date it
arrived at the service center. "NOA1 Date" is the 'Notice Date' shown on the NOA1 —
NOT the date you received it.
PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THESE INSTRUCTIONS - Thanks!
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-07-07 06:27:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionCSC I-751 Status List
QUOTE (Mrs.J06 @ Jul 2 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks you, James.

What a nice short list! I wonder if the folks who filed with CSC still in 2007 or early 2008 just never came back to update or if they are really still waiting!

Wishing everybody a speedy removal (from the list, that is) tongue.gif


Those 2 folks from '07 are still around here on VJ but have not been approved yet for whatever reason.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-07-03 06:43:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionCSC I-751 Status List
QUOTE (wifey246 @ Jul 1 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, James!!


My pleasure. Not a lot of people on this list compared to VSC. Probably because people going through CSC are approved so quickly, they never get around to finding this place.
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-07-02 07:26:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionCSC I-751 Status List
A parting gift here . . . a CSC status list, something this forum has been lacking, particularly since it's now official they've taken over all NSC petitions.


UserName.............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date.......Biometrics......Approved
andresamia...........06/29/07..........08/01/07........08/29/07........--/--/--
sara535..............09/15/07..........09/17/07........10/30/07........--/--/--
Sofargone............01/15/08..........01/22/08........02/12/08........03/27/08
junejr...............01/22/08..........01/25/08........02/13/08........--/--/--
siy70................01/27/08..........01/31/08........03/07/08........05/20/08
radacos..............01/28/08..........01/28/08........02/25/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
bluegirl.............02/04/08..........02/08/08........03/13/08........--/--/--
kikiwiki.............02/15/08..........02/19/08........03/14/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
mellie...............02/15/08..........--/--/--........02/24/08........05/30/08 (>NSC)
lilshe...............02/21/08..........02/26/08........03/26/08........--/--/--
Ashish...............02/25/08..........02/27/08........03/31/08........06/03/08 (>NSC)
tsunamihart..........02/26/08..........03/04/08........--/--/--........05/30/08 (>NSC)
mikeH................03/06/08..........03/07/08........05/13/08........06/17/08
Carolyn..............03/12/08..........03/13/08........04/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Perfect (K2).........03/14/08..........03/17/08........04/17/08........--/--/--
LindsC...............03/19/08..........03/20/08........04/16/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
newoption............03/27/08..........03/31/08........04/26/08........--/--/--
aztoca...............04/01/08..........04/03/08........04/30/08........--/--/--
kc456................04/09/08..........04/10/08........05/09/08........--/--/--
hello28..............04/14/08..........04/15/08........05/13/08........--/--/--
sjjp1974.............04/22/08..........04/23/08........05/22/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
grrltraveler.........04/28/08..........04/30/08........05/29/08........--/--/-- (>NSC)
douglassheridan......05/03/08..........05/09/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
felshen..............05/12/08..........05/20/08........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
soulmate.............05/19/08..........05/20/08........06/13/08........--/--/--
Wifey246.............06/18/08..........06/19/08........--/--/--........--/--/--
Yorkie...............06/26/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--........--/--/-- (>NSC)
Mrs.J06..............07/01/08..........--/--/--........--/--/--....... --/--/--

IMPORTANT!
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to Rich Text Editor. DO NOT JUST COPY AND PASTE. You can change your Text
Editor as follows:
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from Standard to Rich Text.
4. Save this change by clicking on the "Change my Account Options" button.
Then go to the most recently posted version of this list (go to the last post and
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your reply.
* Please DO NOT change the font, font size, add colors, stuff like that.
* Please PREVIEW before posting to make sure it is properly formatted. (A common
mistake is somehow screwing up so you have <b> and </b> HTML tags in these very
instructions instead of actual boldfaced text.)
REMEMBER: "Date of I-751" is the date you sent your petition - NOT the date it
arrived at the service center. "NOA1 Date" is the 'Notice Date' shown on the NOA1 —
NOT the date you received it.
PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THESE INSTRUCTIONS - Thanks!
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-07-01 14:28:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General DiscussionI-90 NOA time?
I can't be of any help, but heaven help you if their posted processing time of August 2006 is anywhere near accurate. That's almost two years! And all for their mistake. I guess the bright side is that at least you don't have to pay for their f-up . . . .
JamesNot TellingColombia2008-06-05 13:27:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussioninfo about affidavit from 2 friends...
QUOTE (Mona_Greg @ Sep 13 2007, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is the affidavit of 2 friends a must have Form or is this more an optional Form ? I mean we still have time my CG expires in march 2009 but i try to get already as much info as i can get what i need with the I-751 !


You will have a slew of people who will tell you, no, they are not necessary, they were approved and they did not submit any affidavits. They probably didn't submit a birth certificate of their child, either, even though birth certificates are, along with affidavits, one of the five categories listed in the instructions.

But lets forget the instructions for a second and go to the source, the pertinent USCIS rule in the Code of Federal Regulations. It provides:
Form I–751 shall be accompanied by evidence that the marriage was not entered into for the purpose of evading the immigration laws of the United States. Such evidence may include:
(i) Documentation showing joint ownership of property;
(ii) Lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;
(iii) Documentation showing commingling of financial resources;
(iv) Birth certificates of children born to the marriage;
(v) Affidavits of third parties having knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship, or
(vi) Other documentation establishing that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the immigration laws of the United States.
8 C.F.R. § 216.4(a)(5).

The I-751 instructions combine items (i) and (ii) and describe all of the above as "examples" that the documents submitted as evidence "should cover." So affidavits are really about as "optional" as any of the other items. You can be approved without them, just as you could be approved without birth certificates or without documents showing joint tenancy in or ownership of property.

Practically speaking, if you have tons of evidence in the ownership/tenancy of property and financial commingling categories (and certainly if you throw in a couple of kids' birth certificates), then perhaps affidavits could be seen as optional.
JamesNot TellingColombia2007-09-14 06:30:00
Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussioninfo about affidavit from 2 friends...
QUOTE (LuckyStrike @ Sep 14 2007, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Sep 12 2007, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOOK in the example forms.

http://www.visajourn...751_support.doc

The guides are your friends: guides6ly.gif


No mention of 'notarization' in the guides. The guides are not, necessarily, your friends.


Not exactly true. The guide refers to "affidavits," as do the I-751 instructions (but then stupidly links to some example letters as an erroneous example). Affidavits are notarized, or they are not affidavits.

Lest there be any doubt (like people thinking, oh, you're just being ####### or too literal), Black's Law Dictionary defines an affidavit as follows:

"A written or printed declaration or statement of facts, made voluntarily, and confirmed by the oath or affirmation of the party making it, taken before a person having authority to administer such oath or affirmation."

Does that sound like a letter? Or something that is not notarized? A notary public has authority to administer oaths and affirmations in connection with an affidavit.
JamesNot TellingColombia2007-09-14 06:09:00