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US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Stella08 @ Jan 18 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I keep my fingers crossed. I think Thomas&Milena is right and 319(a) and 319(cool.gif are two separate items.

I wish I would have had time to read through it and make a case during the interview. I admit I wasn't thinking straight because everything happened so fast and we were caught off guard. I did find one thing amusing... or maybe it was disturbing. The immigration officer told us we would now need to apply for a re-entry permit so that my wife doesn't lose her green card. When I asked how to do it, the immigration officer GOOGLED how to do it. I'm not kidding. The officer was very pleasant to speak with, but I found it disturbing that the person who makes the final decision of something so important has to go to Google to find answers for a basic immigration question.
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-18 15:48:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Stella08 @ Jan 17 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sounds to me like the physical presence/residence and the marital union could be two separate things and it only waives one of the two requirements (the residence part). But I'm not a lawyer and I think in this case it's a good thing to have a pro representing your case.

That's the exact issue the IO brought up and I did my best in my non-legal background to explain that it's really left to interpretation. Our attorney thinks she found something better though so I'll let you know what that is if and/or when it works.
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-18 10:58:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Thomas and Milena @ Jan 17 2009, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the rest of us, it would be interesting to hear about the appeal process. How do you make an appeal?

It's not any kind of "official" appeal. The officer just called it that. Basically she just gave us her phone number and said to call her when we think we have something to allow her to approve the case.
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-18 10:55:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
Update: I could never get a hold of our attorney on Friday for an update other than an e-mail requiring more money to proceed. headbonk.gif
Talk about insult to injury. *sigh* If it works its all worth it though.
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-17 11:27:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
I went with my wife to her interview today. There's good news and bad news for us. The good news is that my wife passed her tests with flying colors and had all documents in order. Also, the immigration officer was extremely friendly; couldn't ask for a better officer. The bad news is she decided to delay approval because we haven't been married 3 years yet. We filed under Section 319 of the Immigration and Nationality Act which is treated different than the average case and according to our legal advice and an Infopass meeting, the 3 year rule didn't apply to our case. (We'll be out of the country for a couple years and this is supposed to allow you to waive the wait time so you don't lose 2 years of the process while outside the country)... I find it hard to believe that we could hire an attorney, go through multiple levels of approval in USCIS and not have a problem until the last day. I'll spare you all the details. Long story short, there's lots of communication going on between our contact at the Senator's office, the immigration officer, and our lawyer. The officer even gave us her private number and asked us to call her as soon as we had more information she could use in the next 7 days. If she can approve, we'll do a private oath ceremony and be done. So, we wait and pray some more and the journey continues... innocent.gif

Edited by mnbinth, 15 January 2009 - 05:44 PM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-15 17:42:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Dima @ Jan 15 2009, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

I was just reading a different topic on this board, and some people were saying that your spouse should come along to the citizenship interview, even though they won't be allowed in. I was planning to go by myself as that would be easier - should I ask my husband to come with me? I had gotten the impression before that that wasn't necessary.

Thanks,
Dima


I went and sat in a secondary room after my wife was called. It was outside the officer's office in a private room away from all the hustle and bustle of other applicants. Got to meet and speak with the officer too which was nice. I would recommend going just for moral support.

Edited by mnbinth, 15 January 2009 - 05:30 PM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-15 17:29:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
Congratulations! good.gif
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-10 18:27:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Thomas and Milena @ Jan 7 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mnbinth @ Jan 6 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our Senator's office contacted us today. They spoke to the director of our local USCIS office and they offered to bump up my wife's interview to the 15th! (it was the 26th) USCIS also said they "hope to hold a same day interview." I'm assuming "hope" means it can be done if she's approved. The interview is at 9:15AM so hopefully we won't have to sit and watch horrible soap operas for hours like usual... good.gif


Was that hard to do re: the Senator's office thing and changing the interview? Our interview is on the 12th, but I would really like for it to be the week before or after. I don't want to risk losing the appointment altogether however!!! Probably better to just leave things as they are and not push our luck!

We had an unexpected 2 month delay at the beginning which affected my work overseas. That was the basis of their decision but it was very easy to get help from my Senator's office. They were great! If you don't have to change it by a week, I wouldn't mess with it personally.
mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-09 09:07:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
Our Senator's office contacted us today. They spoke to the director of our local USCIS office and they offered to bump up my wife's interview to the 15th! (it was the 26th) USCIS also said they "hope to hold a same day interview." I'm assuming "hope" means it can be done if she's approved. The interview is at 9:15AM so hopefully we won't have to sit and watch horrible soap operas for hours like usual... good.gif

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics....Int letter rec.....Interview.....Oath.........Office

kaino.......................................................12/31/08.........2/09/09
pdxBoof.........09/29/08......10/13/08......11/07/08........12/07/08.........1/27/09..................NSC/Portland
mnbinth.........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08........12/09/08.........1/15/09.....1/15/09......NSC/Des Moines
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08........12/08/08.........1/29/09..................VSC/Baltimore
Chelsea.........10/07/08......10/22/08......11/28/08........12/08/08.........1/26/09..................TSC
Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08........1/2/09...........2/18/09..................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08..................................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
stiglet.........10/14/08......10/30/08......11/19/08........11/28/08.........12/29/08.................VSC/Manchester
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08..................................................TSC/Texas
AJ .............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08........12/27/08.........2/18/09..................VSC (Newark/NBC transfer)
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08........12/26/08.........2/09/09..................TSC/Atlanta
tyme............10/20/08......11/03/08................................................................TSC/Charlotte/Durham
ikinNJ..........10/21/08......10/31/08................................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/21/08........12/17/08.........1/29/08..................NSC/Indianapolis
T and..M........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08........12/26/08.........2/12/09..................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08..................................................TSC/Memphis
drs.............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/20/08........12/27/08.........2/09/09..................NSC/Cincinnati
kokobearus......10/27/08......11/01/08......12/03/08........12/27/08.........2/18/09..................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08..................................................VSC/Washington DC
Virginian.......10/31/08......11/04/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC/Norfolk

Edited by mnbinth, 06 January 2009 - 10:33 PM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2009-01-06 22:31:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (kokobearus @ Dec 23 2008, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who send the interview letter?The local office or service center ?Merry xmas to everybody!

I don't have the envelope anymore, but everything on the letter indicates it came from the local office.
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-23 10:01:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Thomas and Milena @ Dec 22 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Emailed Congressman. Found out Milena's interview is on the 12th. I can't believe it is finally here.
smile.gif

Great news!!! good.gif
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-22 13:48:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
Check your mailboxes today! Ours just came too! smile.gif

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics....Int letter rec.....Interview.....Oath.........Office

mnbinth.........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08........12/09/08.........1/26/09..................NSC/Des Moines
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08........12/08/08.........1/29/09..................VSC/Baltimore
Chelsea.........10/07/08......10/22/08......11/28/08........12/08/08.........1/26/09..................TSC
Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08..................................................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08..................................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08..................................................TSC/Texas
AJ .............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08..................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08..................................................TSC/Atlanta
tyme............10/20/08......11/03/08................................................................TSC/Charlotte/Durham
ikinNJ..........10/21/08......10/31/08................................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/21/08..................................................NSC/Indianapolis
T and..M........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08..................................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08..................................................TSC/Memphis
drs.............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/20/08..................................................NSC/Cincinnati
kokobearus......10/27/08......11/01/08......12/03/08..................................................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08..................................................VSC/Washington DC
Virginian.......10/31/08......11/04/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC/Norfolk
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-09 14:03:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics....Int letter rec.....Interview.....Oath.........Office

mnbinth.........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08..................................................NSC/Des Moines
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08..................................................VSC/Baltimore
Chelsea.........10/07/08......10/22/08......11/28/08........12/08/08.........1/26/09..................TSC
Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08..................................................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08..................................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08..................................................TSC/Texas
AJ .............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08..................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08..................................................TSC/Atlanta
tyme............10/20/08......11/03/08................................................................TSC/Charlotte/Durham
ikinNJ..........10/21/08......10/31/08................................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/21/08..................................................NSC/Indianapolis
T and..M........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08..................................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08..................................................TSC/Memphis
drs.............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/20/08..................................................NSC/Cincinnati
kokobearus......10/27/08......11/01/08......12/03/08..................................................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08..................................................VSC/Washington DC
Virginian.......10/31/08......11/04/08......11/28/08..................................................VSC/Norfolk
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-08 21:10:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Thomas and Milena @ Dec 8 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By the way, I think an "interview letter received" column would be very helpful. Past months did not include it, and it make this wait a bit more confusing. Shall we add the column?


The more details the better!
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-08 16:39:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (drs @ Dec 8 2008, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just wanted to post my information:
N-400 Mailed - 10/23/2008
Received - 10/27/2008
FP Notice - 11/7/2008
FP Appt - 11/20/208
FP Done - 11/19/2008
Thanks.

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics.......Interview.....Oath.........Office

mnbinth.........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08...................................NSC/Des Moines
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Baltimore
Chelsea.........10/07/08......10/22/08......11/28/08...................................TSC
Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08...................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08...................................TSC/Texas
AJ .............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08...................................TSC/Atlanta
ikinNJ..........10/21/08......10/31/08.................................................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/21/08...................................NSC/Indianapolis
T and..M........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08...................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08...................................TSC/Memphis
drs.............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/20/08...................................NSC/Cincinnati
kokobearus......10/27/08......11/01/08......12/03/08...................................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08...................................VSC/Washington DC
Virginian.......10/31/08......11/04/08......11/28/08...................................VSC/Norfolk
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-08 10:44:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (edisheri @ Dec 7 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mnbinth @ Dec 4 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know exactly what this means, but I found out today that the National Benefits Center mailed my wife's application to our local USCIS office yesterday. I would assume that means an interview letter will be coming soon, but I have no idea. Hopefully this is the beginning of good news for October filers.



How did you find that out? Is there a number to call Ntional Benefits Center?

I asked my local U.S. Senator's office to find out where the case was and she called the National Benefits Center to find out where they were at with processing.
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-07 20:29:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (ikinNJ @ Dec 7 2008, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,

I just joined....Here is my status

Service Center : Vermont Service Center
Local office: Newark, NJ
Date Filed : 2008-10-21
NOA Date : 2008-10-31 (transffered to NBC)

I haven't heard anything else from USCIS. Anyone know why applications get transffered to NBC?

Thx.
IK

According to this web site...
"The NBC was established to serve as the hub and conduit for USCIS local field offices by completing all pre-interview processing of Forms generally requiring an interview. This pre-processing includes conducting background security checks."
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-07 14:27:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (Thomas F @ Dec 4 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very interesting mnbinth/feyser! You changed your name! I didn't even know that was possible! I'd like to change mine. smile.gif

I thought it was time for a change. smile.gif You can change it once every year in your account control panel. Go up to "My Controls" at the top of this page and then go to "Change Display Name" on the left side.
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-04 21:24:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (A.J. @ Dec 4 2008, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (mnbinth @ Dec 4 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found out today that the National Benefits Center mailed my wife's application to our local USCIS office yesterday.

How did you find that out?

I asked my local U.S. Senator's office to find out where the case was and she called the National Benefits Center to find out where they were at with processing.
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-04 21:21:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
I don't know exactly what this means, but I found out today that the National Benefits Center mailed my wife's application to our local USCIS office yesterday. I would assume that means an interview letter will be coming soon, but I have no idea. Hopefully this is the beginning of good news for October filers.
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-04 14:01:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
C'mon Interviews!

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics.......Interview.....Oath.........Office

feyser..........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08...................................NSC/Des Moines
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Baltimore
Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08...................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08...................................TSC/Texas
AJ .............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08...................................TSC/Atlanta
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08......11/21/08...................................NSC/Indianapolis
Thomas F........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08...................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08...................................TSC/Memphis
kokobearus......10/27/08......11/01/08......12/03/08...................................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08...................................VSC/Washington DC
Virginian.......10/31/08......11/04/08......11/28/08...................................VSC/Norfolk
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-12-02 11:06:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics.......Interview.....Oath.........Office

Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08...................................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08...................................TSC/Texas
feyser..........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08...................................NSC/Des Moines
zhz.............10/17/08......10/31/08......11/21/08...................................TSC/Atlanta
AJ..............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08...................................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08.................................................NSC/Indianapolis
Thomas F........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08...................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08...................................TSC/Memphis
kokobearus......10/27/08...............................................................VSC/Baltimore
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08...................................VSC/Washington DC
Ze Maria........10/07/08......10/25/08......11/21/08...................................VSC/Baltimore
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-11-24 16:43:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
QUOTE (oldahmed @ Nov 21 2008, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Add me in please
oldahmed
Service Center : Vermont Service Center
CIS Office : Washington DC
Date Filed : 2008-10-27
NOA Date : 2008-10-31
Bio. Appt. : 2008-12-06

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics....Interview....Oath......Office

Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08............................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08............................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08............................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08............................TSC/Texas
feyser..........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08............................NSC/Des Moines
AJ..............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08............................VSC (NBC transfer)
oldahmed........10/27/08......10/31/08......12/06/08............................VSC/Washington DC
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08..........................................NSC/Indianapolis
Thomas F........10/23/08......11/03/08......xx/xx/08............................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08............................TSC/Memphis
kokobearus......10/27/08........................................................VSC/Washington DC
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-11-21 10:02:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 2008 October Filers
My wife technically filed in August but it took 2 months to get the NOA (something about having to get extra approval is what we were told but whatever). Anyway, I thought I'd add my dates to the October list. Good luck! smile.gif

UserName........ Sent...........NOA1.......Biometrics....Interview....Oath......Office

Avvypudge.......10/10/08......10/30/08......11/21/08............................VSC/Newark
bgbirl..........10/10/08......10/20/08......11/13/08............................CSC (NBC transfer)/
thea............10/11/08......10/24/08......11/28/08............................VSC (NBC transfer)/Washington DC
TX101...........10/15/08......10/24/08......11/03/08............................TSC/
feyser..........08/28/08......10/29/08......11/20/08............................NSC/Des Moines
AJ..............10/15/08......10/30/08......12/09/08............................VSC (NBC transfer)
Dima............10/23/08......11/07/08..........................................
Thomas F........10/23/08......11/03/08..........................................TSC (NBC transfer)/Atlanta
tmman...........10/23/08......11/12/08......11/29/08............................
kokobearus......10/27/08........................................................
mnbinthMaleThailand2008-11-20 21:24:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-565 Change DOB on Naturalization Certificate
Thanks :)
I think I'll leave the sleeping giant alone and only deal with it if forced to. The difference for my wife was that the abbreviation for 2 months is very similar but Thailand used to never use the birth certificate for anything so the mistake wasn't caught. They use a household registration book to prove birth instead. Her father attempted to correct it when she was a kid and they said they wouldn't do it. 25 years later, they change it. *sigh*

Can only appreciate what you are going through


Edited by mnbinth, 18 January 2011 - 09:33 PM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2011-01-18 21:32:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-565 Change DOB on Naturalization Certificate
I'm concerned about problems crossing the border. Airlines always ask to see your passport or visa to enter the next country so my wife will have to show them both her passports. If there are different dates, I don't know if that will raise red flags or not. I was told by the Chiang Mai Consulate general himself that it won't be a problem because the laws are separate and once you're a citizen, what's done is done.

When we have our first child in a couple months in Thailand, the birth paperwork on the Thai side requires her to right down her birth date. When we go to the embassy to get our son his U.S. passport they'll notice the difference there too.

I'm probably too concerned about it.

Why change the US documents at all? I'm not sure I see any downside to leaving them alone.


mnbinthMaleThailand2011-01-18 21:29:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-565 Change DOB on Naturalization Certificate
My wife was naturalized on 1/29/09. Upon return to Thailand, we learned her date of birth in Thailand had been changed while we were in the U.S. The birth certificate my wife's father had on file that we used for immigration was incorrect and did not match the file at the local "middle of rice field" government office. Her father requested a correction on the Thai household registration book (which is used as proof of birth in Thailand) and when we returned to Thailand, she had to change all her Thai legal documents. We exhausted all legal routes to prevent her birth date from changing in Thailand. All they could do for us was to write a letter stating when the change was made and why. This was done to support her if she needed to change documents in the U.S.

Now her Thai and U.S. passports are different by exactly 7 months (same day, same year, different month). I think this needs corrected in the U.S. but I am absolutely terrified that filing an application for change (N-565) will undue everything we spent years waiting for because they will suspect fraud. We don't know if this will be an issue when crossing the border or not. Since she has dual citizenship, she doesn't need a visa stamp in either passport. I suspect immigration will want to see proof she will be allowed to enter either country (i.e. show a visa in leaving country or passport in entering country). If they notice the date difference, I see nothing but problems ahead. Do you think I should "leave well enough alone" or attempt to correct the naturalization certificate. Given the incompetence we've experienced by USCIS in the past, I'm not optimistic.

I don't see any other way for her to change her U.S. passport unless we fix the naturalization certificate first. At no point did we attempt to attempt to lie which would be a federal crime and I want to do whatever is morally right, but I'm afraid that my good intentions will lead to huge problems.

Edited by mnbinth, 15 January 2011 - 10:42 AM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2011-01-15 10:37:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information

I am trying to file form n400 udner section 319(b); but i am not sure about part 7,could u help me?!?!?
thank you so much


This has to do with trips you've taken out of the U.S. since receiving permanent residency. We just put "0" for A and B. For C, under the heading "Countries to Which You Traveled" our lawyer wrote "NONE." This section doesn't really apply to people filing under 319(b).
mnbinthMaleThailand2012-05-08 10:38:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information

Greetings

Can anyone tell me when my 5 year old stepdaughter can become a US Citizen? She just recently became a LPR (Jan 2012)...

I am US Military currently stationed overseas in Germany and may possibly be filing under INA 319.b for my wife (who also just became a LPR in JAN 2012). Are they able to grant citizenship to my stepdaughter as well? I'm thinking "NO"...not until she reaches a certain age (18), but I cannot find that age declared anywhere....Can anyone offer help here?

I'm just curious how this will effect my stepdaughter, if she must remain a LPR while her mother and stepfather are US Citizens.

We also have the option to wait 2.5 more years and file under 319e (Overseas Naturalization for Spouses of Military Members) but again, that only applies to my wife.

Is this normally the case? get citizenship for your spouse and then if she has children of her own you must wait until they are 18?

THANKS FOR ANY/ALL HELP!


I'm guessing your assumptions are not correct. According to the N-400 instructions "permanent residents under 18 years of age may be eligible for U.S. citizenship if their U.S. citizen parent or parents file a Form N-600 application in their behalf." Since your situation is even more unique than most, I'd consult an immigration attorney. They should be able to tell you over the phone what's possible without charging you a penny. If they want to charge you, call another attorney. They will likely say that they can't tell you for sure if you qualify, which is true, until they see all your legal documents, but they should be able to give you a pretty good idea before you drop some cash on their desk. :)
mnbinthMaleThailand2012-04-10 22:28:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information

i got confused about part 7


You probably figured this out by now but for anyone else that needs help...

Part 7 A: 0
Part 7 B: 0
Part 7 C: Under "Countries to Which You Traveled" we put "NONE"
mnbinthMaleThailand2012-04-10 22:16:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
"1. Did you apply from the US before going overseas, and then come back only for interview/oath? How did you do fingerprinting?"

We applied in the U.S. and stayed there until oath ceremony. However, you can apply from overseas, but you have to go back for interview/oath. I don't know how the fingerprinting works but according to the law, you can apply from overseas.

"2. I am wondering if we can use US address as our home address while claiming that we are applying from overseas, and asking to be naturalized at a Field Office of our chosen (Fairfax, VA is what I am thinking of)? Would that confuse USCIS? Also if we use a US address, USCIS could schedule fingerprint appointment at an ASC in the US. If so we would end up having to fly back to the US just for fingerprinting?"

Applying from overseas seems even more confusing. I don't have answers to those questions. USCIS is incompetent and rarely sees these cases. I was told my wife was the first case at our local service center. Never ever expect them to understand your case. Always expect them to be confused, hurried and overworked so when you send them stuff, make sure it's organized and that what you want them to know and do is written so clearly, a 3rd grader could understand. :) I really recommend people higher a lawyer and eat the cost. Citizenship is too valuable to let paperwork mistakes or incompetent adjudicators screw things up. Also keep in mind, USCIS has a Congressional liaison office. If you ever have trouble. Go to your local Congressmen's office and ask them "to make a congressional inquiry to the USCIS Congresional liasison office" on your behalf. All they have to do is shoot a quick e-mail to the office. Shoot, even if you don't have trouble, I would go ask them to check on your case for you. It can do nothing but help.
mnbinthMaleThailand2011-04-20 19:46:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
1. According to our lawyer, you can apply from overseas. We did not need to, but it is possible. Read this thread. Some of the links have changed, but you can find the documents other places online I'm sure.

2. I would not use a foreign address. It would only raise questions and I'd rather rely on the U.S. mail systems. We used a family member's address who we knew would not be moving during the application process. They scanned all documents for us. This was during visa applications.

3. Do you need "care of"? Can't you just put your name on the address? That's what we did through the whole immigration journey.

4. I'm not sure about how to do the fingerprints.

Edited by mnbinth, 24 March 2011 - 07:57 PM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2011-03-24 19:57:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
My lawyer had never seen it before either but researched it with her immigration law resources. Immigration law is her full time job so even though she hadn't had a case before, she still understood how immigration law works so was quickly able to figure it out. I'm sure any competent lawyer in Detroit would be able to do the same.

Can anyone in Metro Detroit recommend a lawyer that knows anything about 319b?

I spoke with 3 highly recommended lawywers today and they know less about this process than I do after reading the info on this message board!


mnbinthMaleThailand2011-03-15 02:20:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
Sorry, meant to write 10 and 11.
mnbinthMaleThailand2011-03-12 00:31:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
5. It's in a few posts back. Scroll up the screen or click here.

9. I did not have any ID card.
10. Military

Couple of questions about the required documetns
5. a letter from the company (notarized)- what this letter supposed to say?.
Thanks!


mnbinthMaleThailand2011-03-12 00:21:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
If you're doing it in Fairfax like "newlyweds" said, you'll have no problems. If you do it other places, you might consider hiring a lawyer. We did ours in Iowa and we were the first case the adjudicator had ever seen or even heard of believe it or not! Despite clear proof using evidence from the INA and HER OWN MANUAL she still subsequently denied naturalization because she was incompetent and it took a lawyer and a call from my U.S. Senator's office to push things back in the right direction. USCIS owes me several thousand in legal fees for that one. I'm not bitter! :wow:

Does it make any sense in using a lawyer for 319b or is the process pretty straight forward?


Edited by mnbinth, 28 January 2011 - 04:19 AM.

mnbinthMaleThailand2011-01-28 04:16:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
The cover letter we used is in the first post here.

The information required for the employer letter.
An official letter from a U.S. government agency, public international organization, or firm incorporated
in the U.S. or a foreign subsidiary with at least 51% American ownership that includes the following:
• The title of the official making the affidavit, the name of the firm or corporation, and whether he or
she has access to the records of the firm or corporation; and
• Whether the employing organization is an American firm or corporation engaged in the development
of foreign trade and commerce of the U.S. or is a subsidiary thereof. An American firm is defined as
being at least 51% owned by U.S. citizens; and
• The nature of the business which is conducted by the employing organization; and
• The name of the State under the laws of which it was organized, the date of incorporation, and that it
is existent.
• The facts of the U.S. citizen spouse’s employment and the basis of hire (contract, regular employee,
etc.) and the prospective length of time he is committed to remain in overseas employment.

There's another thread here. Accidentally have two going.

Can you please send me samples of cover letter and letter from company? Thank you so very much!


mnbinthMaleThailand2011-01-25 21:20:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 Expedited Naturalization 319b Information
You can request the location when you send in the application on the cover letter. I'm not familiar with how to change it now, but I think you can do it. As always, if you have trouble, contact a local Congressman's office and ask them to make an inquiry to the "USCIS Congressional Liaison Division."
mnbinthMaleThailand2010-07-09 00:59:00
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QUOTE (jennysp @ Aug 12 2009, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thank you very much again.
would you happen to know how i can file directly at fairfax? i just reviewed the revised n400 instructions and it seems i need to send it elsewhere. please help me!


I discuss this on my other post in the Questions section. You "should" be allowed to have the interview anywhere as confirmed by the Department of State and a lawyer. http://www.visajourn...howtopic=175821

mnbinthMaleThailand2009-08-12 07:45:00
National Visa Center (Dept of State)STUCK @ NVC for AP
QUOTE (uscandual @ May 8 2009, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (wasabi @ May 8 2009, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm also culturally Jewish and my soon to be wife is Buddhist. I was married to a Thai woman before and had the full Buddhist ceremony as you describe. It was indeed a very memorable experience, and even though I speak Thai very well I had no idea what was going on too. This time around we decided to skip the ceremonies though I did hook her up with some gold which she feels is a completely satisfactory substitute to the full ceremony. Now I have to consider how to take care of the marriage business in the USA, perhaps Vegas is in order?


Cool! Are you processing your visa through BKK as well? I don't know how Laos processes. I know that Cambodia now goes through Pnomh Penh (they used to go through BKK). Does the US have an embassy in Laos with an IV unit? I know I could look it up, but I'm lazy tongue.gif

Anyway, if you are processing through BKK, you may want to monitor the Sawasdee 3 thread. We are having some active discussion there regarding processing times through the embassy, including these long delays for Packet3/Packet4/Interview handling.


Yes even though she is Lao we are trying to do it all through BKK since we both live here. I have heard the Thai embassy is easier to deal with than the Laos one.
wasabiMaleThailand2009-05-09 06:27:00