ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresA question about dependents.
The I-134 doesn't actually count up household members by adding up numbers. It is somewhat more informal than the I-864 for adjustment of status. If you look at it, the form asks the sponsor to name people who depend on them for support...full or partial. Your parents can decide if they support her enough to list her.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-08-14 09:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresChange of address for beneficiary?

I have the same problem, my fiancee moved back to her sisters home. From what I have found through reading posts after doing a search it seems what most have done is have NVC change the address before it is sent to the embassy. You have to call until you can get your case number and then once you have this you can have the address changed.

So can anyone comfirm this approach? Thanks

Yes, that should work. NVC can pull up your case from your USCIS number. But you need to be diligent about timing. I realize some cases now are held up at NVC, but ideally they should pass through there in about 3 days, so important to make the change within that period. You have a different consulate, so I don't know if receiving your instruction letter from the consulate matters. For London you don't really need it. They can submit the new beneficiary address on the visa application forms and all will be well.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-08-14 10:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresChange of address for beneficiary?

Thank you for the response. The guy on the phone said to email it to uscis but I see no address. It's weird.... I'm so afraid he will miss some important information. I'd like to make sure they have the right address before the stuff starts getting sent all over, but yeah, it's confusing. At least I know ar-11 is definetly wrong now.

Call back and ask again. Then when they say to email, ask for the preferred email address. I also wouldn't count on them getting it right but you have other ways for him to be informed of his London process.

After approval, call NVC to find out the new LND case number and when the file left for the embassy.
The letter he should get from the embassy is not important. The instructions and forms are on the London website. A copy of the letter is posted in this helpful London thread http://www.visajourn...terview-thread/
Calling the Dept of State can confirm London has the file or if they have mailed a letter. It's a US number and is not charged per minute like calling London embassy. Embassy charges for answering the phone. Once you know London has the file or sent the instruction letter (formerly called packet 3) then its safe to send the forms to London without actually getting their letter.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-08-14 09:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuestion re: returned I-129F

Lol ok so maybe I am worrying too much... but I wouldn't be if I hadn't read the thread from the person who had to go through so much extra hassle because of the same mistake!


I need to read that thread because leaving off one n/a following something you said no to just doesn't sound like trouble. What exact question did you not put n/a on? Also post a link to the thread.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 18 May 2012 - 12:47 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-05-18 00:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuestion re: returned I-129F
I think you worry too much.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-05-17 16:16:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresCo-sponsor has drawn unemployment- is this an issue?

Hello Everyone! :) We previously thought my mother would NOT able to be a co-sponsor because she has drawn unemployment. Now we are unsure. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Unemployment will not count against her. It's not welfare, it's an insurance that is paid for her benefit if she becomes unemployed.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-25 17:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew here and the K1 process

this in bold should be a viewed as a caution not to do things this way.


I meant that as a caution Charles. It happens but I wasn't actually advocating it. Many risks involved.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-29 12:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNew here and the K1 process

I'm not sure if I need to get an attorney or not. Both of us are fairly intelligent people, so he thinks it's not necessary. I don't know if there are any good reasons to use one.

It just seems like it takes so long and I would like to speed it up in any way.

No you don't need a lawyer if you have time to study the process. A lawyer doesn't get to cut in line.

I heard that of he just came here and we got married (can you even do this?!?) that the USCIS can deny perms at residence due to malicious intent or something ( as in..he comes with a tourist visa knowing we'd be getting married). I don't want to do anything the wrong way and risk our future.

People are successful with that all the time. Intent is rarely even questioned at the interview. Generally they "suddenly" decide to get married after he is here and apply for a greencard. There is no appeal if something goes wrong and he is denied a greencard with that method.


I also asked if he could come here while we're waiting and I called the USCIS customer service and they basically said no.

He can visit but not "live" here. The more often he comes and the longer he visits, the more likely the immigration officers will eventually say "enough" and put him on the next plane to the UK. Short visits, well spaced work.


Also, some form related specific questions....
1) Do you really have to have every box completed? I read somewhere that you should enter 'N/A' in any box that doesn't apply.

NONE is also a good answer. Other names used? NONE. SSN and A#? NONE. It lets them know you read the question and have no aliases, SSN, wives, children, etc. Otherwise a blank might make them think you skipped a question.

2) On question 10 of my info (USC was granted through..), I have birth in US selected. Do I need to complete anything in the box below that?

A good place for N/A. The long blank is for a naturalized citizens. Since you already indicated you were born in the US, a naturalization certificate would not be applicable to you.


3) Its 2/28 and the form expires tomorrow. Should I scrap this and wait for a new version? Has this happened to anyone before? Does a new version post straight away?

Forms do not expire. They are revised if laws change or new information is deemed necessary.The revision date is at the bottom of the page. That OMB date at the top is for internal review by the Office of Management and Budget. They review it to make sure the form still serves the purpose and doesn't ask for unnecessary info. The 60 day notice for public comment on this particular form was posted October 28, 2011. If they decide all is well with the form, it will get it's next 2 year review date at the top but the form won't change. Short answer: Use the form.


Obviously any help would be appreciated!!!!

Good picture of the whole process http://www.visajourn.../content/k1flow

Guides http://www.visajourn...content/k1guide

Tips http://www.visajourn.../content/k1tips

Some graphs showing averages of processing http://www.visajourn...nt/k1historical
You can get held up at any step of the way. Theses are averages of VJ people.

UK forum http://www.visajourn...united-kingdom/
You can click on timelines of people still not there yet (with the visa) and get a sense of how long they've been at it.

Good thread in UK forum for London specific process. Get your petition filed first, then start learning about the London part while you wait on approval of the I-129F http://www.visajourn...terview-thread/

Sample forms filled out http://www.visajourn...ontent/examples

Read, read, read and don't make any plans for a wedding until you have a visa.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 29 February 2012 - 11:02 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-29 11:01:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPacket 3 question...

:thumbs: this is the way i have done it and my medical results will arrive at the embassy probably on the same day as my DS-2001 and cover letter, so its not like im actually losing any time by not sending in the DS-2001 with the rest of the forms anyway.


Posted Image Well done young Skywalker. May the Force be with you.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-20 20:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPacket 3 question...
Agree with everything Dan said.

If you want to get on with the interview and get that visa in hand--
When you send back the ds2001 to let them know you are ready to interview, don't say you plan to marry next summer or they will most likely delay your interview until May. They ask for a cover letter with the DS2001 stating your "email address, if applicable, date of your wedding and date of the medical examination". That's on the website instructions. Pick a date about 6 weeks after your medical. Include the date of your medical for sure. I seriously believe that sending the DS-2001 to hit the embassy around the time the medical results may actually get a faster response because they can see that everything they need is there. I sometimes wonder if the ones who say they are ready at the time of sending in the forms, with no medical date or one weeks off get kinda shuffled to the back and forgotten for a while.

I believe the most efficient for London's business model is this order--
  • Receive the 4 application forms (no personal documents attached).
  • Receive the medical results (about 3-4 days after your appointment)
  • Receive your DS-2001 Readiness for Interview form saying you have everything and the medical is scheduled (or has already happened) by the time they get the cover letter and form.

I know for a fact that if you give a far off wedding date, they will put off your interview if they have others who need to travel sooner. The embassy has told people that when they didn't get an interview letter in a timely manner. So bump up your date if you don't want to wait around. They don't quiz you on your cover letter at the interview. It's a scheduling thing they probably don't even see.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 20 February 2012 - 07:43 PM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-20 19:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-134 Question

My gut tells me I should write "See attachment" then attach another sheet referencing the question with the full company name given, then sign and date the additional page. I wanted to see what the VJers thought, though?


Awww, I'd just try to abbreviate or shorten it to Hippy Happy if you can. London isn't going to make a big issue of it. Do you have an employer letter and W2 with the full name? Close enough. Like putting "Dow" instead of "The Dow Chemical Company. (Yes "The" is part of the name.) The interview guy never said a word about the I-134. Nothing.


But "see attached" always works.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-29 19:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedureswho is counted as household member

Just a quick question. My fiance (the USC) has 2 children by a previous marriage. They do not live with him and are not listed as dependants on his tax return. He is on social security so we will need a joint sponsor but will our household size be for 2 (me and him) our will have have to include his children also?

When we have a joint sponsor does it have to be 125% of the poverty level for their household and ours or just their household as they are not expected to support our household? (just me)


Need more information. Are his kids grown and gone? Is his social security the retirement kind? Disability kind?
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-29 20:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHelp with a sponsor question please.

[size="4"]Hello, i'm new to all this.
So my question is, my USA fiance does not earn enough to sponsor me alone but i have savings...can i sponsor myself?
I have searched for this answer but cant find it.
If i can sponsor myself then how much savings do i need to have?
Thanks in advance.
Shazzy.


For the visa issued in London, you CAN self-sponsor. They never publish a set dollar amount. One person who did it said they had $40,000. It could be much less but nobody who has done it comes back and says what they got by with. London says you have to establish to the satisfaction of the consular officer at the time of the application for a visa, and also to the satisfaction of an officer of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) at the time of application for admission to the United States, that he or she is not likely at any time to become a public charge. It's a vague answer that means the officer who interviews you gets to use his judgement.

What you need instead of an I-134 is on London's website.

Applicants Own Funds

An applicant who expects to be able to meet the public charge provisions of the law through personal financial resources may submit to the consular officer evidence of funds or income from one or more of the following sources:

  • bank statement showing present balance of applicant's account, date account was opened, the number
    and amount of deposits and withdrawals during the past 12 months, and the average balance during the year. If there have been recent unusually large deposits, an explanation thereof should be given;
  • proof of ownership of property or real estate, in the form of a title deed or the equivalent and a letter from a lawyer, or real estate agent showing its present valuation (any mortgages or loans against the property must be stated);
  • letter or letters verifying ownership of stocks and bonds, with present market value or expected earnings indicated;
  • statement from insurance company showing policies held and present case surrender value;
  • proof of income from business investments or other sources.
f the financial resources are derived from a source outside the United States, a statement as to how the funds or income are to be transferred to the U.S. must be provided.


When you get to the US and apply for a greencard, the rules are layed out in the instructions for the I-864. You will be married so your savings could supplement his shortfall in income.

Your are posting in the spouse forum. There is a separate one for fiance's. I gave you the fiance answer. Spouse visa rules are different.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 29 February 2012 - 02:36 PM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-29 14:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-134 questions

I know I'll need a co-sponsor for my K-1. Thankfully my parents are very happy to provide this. My dad plans to my the co-sponsor.

Dad: Retired high school teacher so gets a good retirement check and is well over the income guidelines. He is also part time adjunct faculty at the community college where I teach. Again, credits vary per semester but he generally teaches at least 4 classes. He also receives veterans disability benefits. He and my mom own their home and are rebuilding their savings after helping to pay for my education and paying for medical bills over the last few years.



So my questions:

1) Will he be acceptable for a cosponsor? I wasn't sure since he is retired and we both teach (technically) contractually and not full time. It seems like they specifically want a full time employee on the form/letter.

Yes he is acceptable with his retirement only. No need to list assets even.


2) I can submit tax transcripts for both of us for the past three years (or our 1040 and my schedule C) plus pay stubs/ W2 from the college. I assume that he also has stubs and paperwork for his retirement. Is this enough proof of income?

One tax return is enough. He can probably get a letter from the pension department stating how much he receives. That replaces employer letter. London will be fine with that.


3) Even though we are both part time and our contracts vary from semester to semester, should we still get employment letters from HR at the college? I have taught there since 2009 and I believe he's taught there 15+ years. I know he overlapped his teaching at the high school and college so it's been a long time. I figure if nothing else, it shows continual employment.

London won't care about all that history. Don't even worry about that.


4) I saw somewhere that they need financial info for just him, not joint with my mom. I don't recall seeing anywhere saying how you get this individual info if they file taxes together.

He'll have his income broken out of the joint amount shown on the tax return because of his 1099-R (Retireees get that instead of a W2.) And his pension letter will also state income over the threshhold. Tax return doesn't have to match income he states. London will approve even without a tax return. They probably will approve you. It's subjective and the guy surely will realize with your credentials, you are a safe bet. Send along what you can as well as your diploma, business card, a letter you write on business stationery to explain your finances/private practice.


If these have been answered already, I apologize. I did try to search the boards and find answers before asking. Also, sorry if I'm over-analyzing and making mountains out of molehills. I'm just so afraid to mess up :)

They are good questions and my answers come from years of experience with London. Each consulate is different and London is e-a-s-y.

For your AOS the Affidavit of Support will be stricter and you both will have to submit tax returns. Because you are claiming business losses, you will need Dad. But again, his separate income can be proven with his 1099-R and his pension letter.


Follow this thread. It will be helpful to you http://www.visajourn...terview-thread/

Edit to add: May I have a complimentary adjustment?? I ease your fears--you ease my back pain. :rofl:

Edited by Nich-Nick, 02 March 2012 - 06:45 PM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-02 18:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresK1 visa - Co-sponsor

Hi All

There seems to be very little info out there re co-sponsors. My situation is that once we submitted out initial application back in July 2011, my fiancé unfortunately lost his job (due to the company shutting down) He has been looking for work ever since. Inverview is next week on London. My fiancé's father is going to be our co-sponsor (and is well above the povery line)but does my fiancé still need to fill out the I-134 form even though he can’t really fill out all the boxes??

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks :thumbs:


London just needs a sponsor. If fiance can't do it, his father can be THE sponsor. If you have cash money, you can sponsor yourself with no I-134 at all. There's no published amount so I can't give you a figure.

Here's more stuff from London concerning support http://london.usemba...faffidavit.html
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-01 17:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-134 affidavit - co-sponsor
London will accept your joint sponsor.

(Mine didn't post either with the original question quoted)

Edited by Nich-Nick, 06 March 2012 - 07:29 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-06 07:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfluenza Vaccine

The original was done 4/2011 in Egypt. On 2/29/12 we went to a civil surgeon to make sure all shots were up to date for our AOS. The CS didn't mention a Flu Shot as he completed the I-693.


Curious to know what he indicated beside the flu shot. Technically it is flu season and "not flu season" isn't appropriate. But it will not be flu season when your case is adjudicated so it will still be excused, even if the CS made a slight mistake.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-06 19:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfluenza Vaccine

You seem to be answering everything I've asked, no matter which forum it's in :dance:

That's because I click on "Portals" in the menu bar and it shows me all the Brits in need of help, no matter which forum. Glad I've helped you.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-05 07:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfluenza Vaccine

Sorry to hijack this thread, but had a related question. Are there vaccine exemptions for people with allergies to vaccine ingredients? My fiance is severely allergic to eggs. One of the contraindications for flu shot is someone with egg allergies. He reacts very badly to the shot so has not gotten it in years. Would they allow this exemption or should he just "suck it up" and get it if he does his medical during flu season?


Sorry. Missed your post earlier. Any contra-indicated shot is marked as not medically appropriate by the doctor. That allows a waiver and the shot is excused forever and ever or perhaps until the contra-indicated condition no longer exists (example pregnancy). He will be given a waiver for the flu shot. Here's the containdications for adults http://www.immunize....atg.d/p3072.pdf


@Thomas70--we understand K1s do not have to get shots. The people in this thread are trying to get complete on their DS-3025 at their visa exam. Then they will not have to pay a civil surgeon in the US to copy over their records and add any new shots they were missing. Civil surgeons can be expensive and a hassle. Many refuse to do only the shot record and insist on a complete exam. I've seen people quoted $350. All of that can be avoided by getting it ALL recorded on the visa medical form. USCIS will accept it if no shots are missing.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 04 March 2012 - 10:04 PM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-04 21:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfluenza Vaccine

Attached is the info from CDC, notice is dated 2010 (but I had downloaded it about March of last year 2011). You might want to check the CDC site in case there is something newer

Your attached file is not the immigration requirement. CDC still thinks they are good suggestions but if you just want to get a greencard, then the requirements are different. Your list still has HPV and zoster which were dropped from the immigration list in 2009. Influenza was added to the list for all ages of immigrants age 6 month+ in 2010. Here's a good list. http://www.cdc.gov/i...tions.html#tbl1


i had it just to be safe, and well, so i don't get the flu.... also the nurse at my GP initially said they didn't do it for people my age for free, and i'd have to go a private walk-in center, but she was awesome and got around it by checking her intranet thing which did actually list it as suggested for travellers to the US of all ages (also, she said she loads left over from the winter anyway). i know it's about $30 to get done at CVS, so you may as well try wangle it for free here?

Since you have just filed I129F and are waiting approval, it will be past Mar 31 by the time you have your medical exam. Your DS-3025 and that of the OP will be markesd "not flu season" and you will not need a flu shot for AOS. Getting any shots for your personal health is a different matter.

If xjoseyx (who went to Knightsbridge during flu season) had refused to get one, and her AOS was before next flu season Oct 1, 2012 then she also would be excused because it will not be flu season at the time of he AOS.

This comes from USCIS:

(C ) Steps to determine the necessary vaccinations . [Chapter added 12-15-2009]

Step 3 . If the required vaccinations were not received or not marked as “not medically appropriate” as of the date the medical exam was conducted, determine whether the missing vaccinations would still be required as of the date of adjudication.

Step 4 . If the missing vaccinations are no longer required, the vaccination requirements have been met. This is, for example, the case when the applicant has aged out, or it is not the flu season, or a vaccine is no longer required by law.

Step 5 . If the missing vaccinations would still be required, the officer should RFE for those vaccinations.


An example USCIS gives to adjudicators for Step 4 is-- an 18 year old needs Hep B but does not get it recorded at his exam. The applicant has turned 19 years old when the adjudicator is checking his immunization. Because a 19 yr old does not need Hep B, the applicant does not, even if he was 18 at his medical exam. He should be excused from HepB because it is no longer a requirement on the date his case is reviewed for AOS. "Not flu season" falls into the same category.

The ways I can see somebody needing a flu shot are:
--K1 if they have their visa exam during flu season and don't AOS until the next flu season rolls around
--K1 if they have their visa exam Octoberish and their AOS gets approved before March 31. All in the same flu season.
--K1s who have their visa exam when it is not flu season, but go to a civil surgeon for a new shot record during flu season. (New date of record)
--IR1/CR1s who have their visa exam and interview during flu season
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-04 16:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresInfluenza Vaccine

Is the influenza vaccination now a mandatory requirement? I thought I was up-to-date having had an MMR and TD last Tuesday, but it seems that the influenza has now become mandatory? Is this true?


It has been mandatory for everyone older than 6 months since November 2010. The required dates for a flu shot are Oct 1-Marc 31 but there is a lot of wiggle room there. I've posted this a gazillion times so will cut and paste some things:.

**Note on flu shot: flu shots are required for adults of all ages (changed Nov 2010) if your UK exam was between (Oct 1 and March 31). But if the AOS adjudicator picks up your case when it is not flu season, you will be excused. And the reverse is true. The adjudicator picks up your case during flu season, but sees it was NOT flu season when you had your medical exam, you are also excused because the date they go by is the date of your exam to determine if you were current on that date. Keep in mind that if you go to a civil surgeon for an I-693, then you are resetting the medical exam date for immunizations and you may have to get second doses of shots or a flu shot to become current on your new immunization date of record.


You should get another MMR in 4 weeks. Had you waited and gotten MMR less than 4 weeks of your exam, you would have been given a waiver for AOS for the reason insufficient time interval because you could not medically get another sooner than 4 weeks of the last. I think getting two is the best plan.


Also, the nurse wouldn't give me the pertussis part of 'TDaP' because she said that it isn't given to adults?! Will the tetanus-dipheria alone see me through?

I've heard more than once that UK doctors have refused to give pertussis to their patients. What you have to realize is that your doctor has immunization guidelines he follows in the UK. It obviously says no pertussis for adults. So by the UK standards they are not wrong. But for immigration you are meeting the standards of US guidelines. So you have a little quandary there. I guess my husband's NHS doctor didn't care and gave him the full baby version DTP that isn't recommended for adults. But the good news is USCIS will accept any of the 5 variations Td or Tdap or DT or DTP or DtaP. It says so in their manual. Dan already quoted my post about adult and baby versions.

And yes, as Inky said, there is new concern about pertussis in the US and call for adults who will be around babies to get vaccinated. Your nurse is right by her UK rules and Inky is right with US rules.


Bottom line for you UKCharlotte is get another MMR in 4 weeks and you are good through to AOS without having a civil surgeon transcribe your records to a new form. It won't be flu season like Dan says when you go for your visa exam. And even if it's the middle of flu season when you AOS, it will be waived because your medical form will be ticked "not flu season" on the date it was signed.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-03 16:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSending forms for K1 once NOA2 is recieved

Does anyone know if we can go ahead and submit our forms for the K1 Visa to London once we recieved our NOA2 or do we have to wait for them to mail the letter with the web address to go to? We know what forms we need to fill out and send in.. we are just trying to get it completed faster and save the couple weeks for them to mail the letter to my fiance'. Anyone know??? Thanks!!!


This is what the embassy website says on the matter.

Note: Only applicants who been notified by the Immigrant Visa Unit that a petition has been received in their name should complete the visa application forms. Forms received without the applicant's case number will be discarded.


If your forms arrive before your approved petition is logged in, it could slow you down. They have a system in place that is most efficient for them. If you get the cart before the horse, they might toss you forms in the pile in the corner because they haven established a file in your name. Just a thought.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-09 16:08:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat forms should i get?

Okay, thanks for the advice. So a lever arch binder? or just a simple wallet style one? sorry for seeming "dumb" with this, i just want to start it in the best possible way that i can do.

I would suggest that no binder is needed. Don't use staples. Contractors take it apart and reassemble it in their order and their folder before passing on to the USCIS guys who will be deciding. A bulldog clip works because it will likely be more than a paperclip can hold
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I have submitted 4 things now and I put everything in an old file folder (and I mean OLD, label peeled off, nothing special) to be a wrapper of sorts. It's just to squish the loose pages together so I can slide it into a cardboard priority mail envelope easier without the loose pages ruffling up. Sometimes it's a tight squeeze, but if you're sending more than will fit, it's too much.
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Edited by Nich-Nick, 10 March 2012 - 07:21 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-10 07:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhat forms should i get?

Just another quick question if i can, to prevent making another thread. To anyone that has applied from the UK, whats the rough size to the file i will need. I have a 60 sleeve file at the moment, just so i can see everything clearly and easily. Is there any recommended places to buy good files from, the best size file to buy or any other little tips i could possibly use?

Sorry for being a bit cheeky, i just want to have everything perfect the first time around. Thank you!


No file with sleeves! They will have to spend a long time taking it apart in the mailroom before throwing it away.

Back to your first question. Look up in the menu bar..the lighter blue one on the second row. Find "Example Forms" with mouse. Click. Tada!! Great stuff.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-09 09:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLondon K1 Self Sponsor

Thanks for that info. I will have around $30000 hopefully by the time we come to doing the visa, and a possible $20000 from her (although i wasnt planning on including her money), i guess that the self sponsor probably isnt as achievable as i thought at first glance. However i will keep on researching and reading into it. I understand about the greencard etc, i just was unsure about the figures (roughly) needed, and a few other things. But again thank you for your help, and i will keep an eye on self sponsoring, but i think its most sensible to be more optimistic about a co-sponsor instead.



Go with proof of your $30K and don't turn in the sponsor's I-134 unless they say you need one. It may be very possible depending on who interviews you. There are no set numbers. It's a subjective thing. The task at the embassy level is to convince the guy doing the interview that you won't become a public charge. It's very possible he will think $30K will get you by for a few months until you get work authorization and a job. He may base his subjective opinion on work experience and skills too. If two people walked in, each with $30K and one was a doctor and the other had never had a job or any skills----well the outcome could be different.

You will likely need a joint sponsor for AOS because it's got defined guidelines.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-01-26 23:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresLondon K1 Self Sponsor

However, i have recently come into a substantial amount of savings,

Sustantial is a vague word. Some people think $3000 is substantial. I might need $100,000 to call it substantial. It will depend on the officer in London and what he considers substantial.


I was just wanting to know as much as i can about London self sponsorship:

Is it still available to do?
What are the facts and figures i would need to meet to self sponsor?
Is self sponsoring any less complicated, quicker etc? (with relevance obviously as any K1 visa will never be easy haha!)
and generally is there anything i should know about this way of going about the process?


Yes you can self sponsor in London.

There are no facts and figures published. There was a thread going last year and someone said they self-sponsored in London with $40,000.

Not really quicker--at the interview you present an I-134 or self-sponsor documents. The officer says yay or nay on the spot. Both require some documents of proof of the money.

London discusses it on this page http://london.usemba...faffidavit.html

But wait.....there's more--
Your K1 visa is just the stepping stone to enter the US. You will have to apply for the greencard and provide an I-864 affidavit of support after you get here. That has stricter requirements. If you and your fiance/spouse joined money and could show 3 times the poverty level in cash, savings,etc then that would satisfy the requirements. It's roughly a minimum of $55,000 for 2 people. Poverty level is found here and will be updated for 2012 shortly. http://www.uscis.gov...form/i-864p.pdf

See more about the assets in the I-864 instructions on page 9 http://www.uscis.gov.../i-864instr.pdf
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-01-26 20:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-134

Perfect! Do I just write a letter stating the income for the second job?


As with any form where you need more space, you can write "see attached" and then add a sheet to the back listing the details of both. Write the form number, question number, your name at the top.

With a $48,000 first income, London isn't going to really care much about the second job. There is really no need to get proof in a letter from that employer. The first job qualifies you over and above so like the car, assets, etc. it's just extra bother that won't be looked at.

My experience--I had two letters stating monthly income, each over the threshhold(not from a job, but like having employer letters). The document lady took one letter and handed back the other. The interview guy never even saw it, nor did it go in the file. People have been approved in London recently and only the tax return went to the interviewer. Another had only an employer letter. London doesn't even actually require a tax return if you've got other good proof of current income. so you will be home free with a tax return and another proof from a $48K job. You are well qualified!
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2011-09-19 18:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-134

I make $48,000 at my full time job and $7,200 from my second job (total of $55,200). Do I need to put assets on there? I have a car that I'm paying for and in my name only but I rent so my car is really the only asset. Will it get denied if I don't put assets on there? It will just be me and my fiance, no dependants (although we'll be living with my sister where I currently live for a few months). I'm very fuzzy on this part of the process.


No assets needed. Leave those lines blank or draw a line through them. London will take a peek at your great income and won't even discuss it. The same is true for the I-864 when you get to AOS. You don't have to list assets unless your income is short.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2011-09-19 15:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuick question to clear up unncertainty

Well, the IRS is cracking down on this. EBay and other vendors are required to send you a 1099-K if you meet certain criterias (see link below)..

http://www.irs.gov/b...=251489,00.html


I think the guy falls short by about $19,500 for eBay to report his earnings, but that is good information to know.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-12 00:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuick question to clear up unncertainty

I knew it was very low. Unless your job was a lemonade stand you basically have to file. Self employed ALWAYS has to file due to self employment tax. Before this is over he will need to have three years tax returns prepared. 2011, 2010 and 2009. He will not need it for the visa but he will for the AOS. Incidentally LPRs must ALWAYS file a tax return to keep their LPR status, it can be a joint return with their spouse. They WILL require them when you go for your citizenship.


Gary, I believe he filed a tax return but the adjusted gross income is low because he got laid off. He probably didn't claim his ebay amounts under self employment, but who will really know? Not USCIS. Not advocating tax fraud here but the average Joe has no clue and the IRS isn't bothered to suspect or know he sold some stuff on ebay. I've sold things on ebay and didn't do self employment taxes. It's a common mistake, though not excusable, that is not going to be discovered.

Okay...start yelling at me now for saying that.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-11 22:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuick question to clear up unncertainty

Hi everyone,

I just have a quick question that I'm a little confused about. My fiance worked for himself for about half of last year after he was made redundant, he now has another job and has been working there since January. My question is in regards to showing how much he makes....is it ok that his tax returns only show how much he made for half of the year? he wasn't making enough on his own to file taxes ( it was just a small eBay thing ) so he didn't file taxes when he wasn't employed. Should he send tax returns from more than just last year? should he send in pay stubs that show how much he makes now? I just want to make sure that it is ok that he didn't make enough last year for the visa limits but he now does.

Thank you everyone.


He can get approved for a visa in London with no tax return if he has other proofs of current income. So poor 2011 tax return won't be an issue (or needed) for London.

When you apply for your greencard, the Affidavit of Support will require his 2011 tax return. His previous two will show a better picture so good to send them too. And his current 2012 salary will be proved with employer letter and pay stubs.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-11 07:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProblems with money and education
Here's the fees. Transportation to London (twice) and the US is extra. So far the first listed has been paid. Maybe you'll need to start over when you and the fiance are better prepared.

$340 (USCIS) I-129F
£35 ACPO Police certificate
£210 (Knightsbridge Doctors) medical exam
$350 (Embassy) Visa fee
£14.50 (DX Secure) Courier fee
$1070 (USCIS) Adjustment of Status/Work Authorization/Advance Parole

Your petition has expired so the only possible way to further extend is write the embassy a letter and request an extension and give them a reason. Once you have a visa in hand, then you have 6 months to use it.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-12 09:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresProbably a dumb question but...

Do the passports come in an outer envelope and the "special" paperwork in a separate one that you can't open ?


Yes, that.
[Sealed embassy envelope] + [passport] wrapped in courier outer packaging.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 12 March 2012 - 09:44 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-12 09:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPacket 3 Contents - Can someone List them out?

EDIT: Nich-Nick beat me to it. I knew she would ;)



Yes, but I didn't take the time to pull up my K1 document and copy/paste it all in. Well done. You can be little_g and little_nich. hahaha
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2011-07-10 16:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPacket 3 Contents - Can someone List them out?
This is London specific and not true for every country

DS156k
DS157
DS230i&ii (Part 1 only for a K1)
DS-156
DS-2001 with cover letter
i-134 and accompanying material from petitioner (To interview)
Revisted letter of intent from both parties
fresh proof of relationship information..
police certificate??? (I know I need this for my medical, do I add to this packet - may as well?)(To interview)
*Medical results are sent seperatly from practioner*

Plus read the list of documents taken to the interview in London in support of your application http://london.usemba..._documents.html
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2011-07-10 13:58:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresabsolute divorce decree
I wanted to post a follow up to this discussion. Sherri posted in another forum:

Hello :) the divorce decree with the note worked! Thank you so much for your help! We've received our NOA2 this week, hardcopy, and are anxiously anticipating hearing more news (good news!).


She got her NOA2 about a week after posting off a note saying UK divorce decrees do not have a signature and another copy of the decree....maybe with the highlighting suggested??
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-13 21:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresabsolute divorce decree

A photocopy of the original should have been fine. Perhaps for some reason they wanted the divorce agreement signed by all parties? (typically signed by ex wife, ex husband, lawyers if available, and judge). This is called Decree nisi, and would contain ruling judge signature. A certificate is typically signed by Register of Probate (rubber stamp), and includes origination seal (copy is fine which you sent). They are asking Judge signature, so i would tend to think divorce agreement (nisi), not absolute certificate is what they request (not needed for i129f application but could be requested). You should call for clarification on this one, as they know a absolute decree is typically not signed by a judge.


There's been many a UK person approved for a petition with the decree absolute with no signature. And the thread I pointed out isn't the firat person who has had their RFE dismissed by writing back and explaining that is the final decree. There are those at the USCIS who are unfamiliar with the document, but when it's pointed out they accept it with no signature. The original will need to be shown at the embassy in London where there won't be a problem because they are familiar with the document.

Tip for any Englishmen reading this: If you're making a photocopy, the A4 paper it's printed on is longer than US paper. The tiny footer that says decree absolute(Divorce) is cut off. Turn the original around on the copy glass with the bottom at the copier top edge. That way it leaves off some of the top wide margin, and gets the important print at the bottom.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-14 22:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresabsolute divorce decree

Hello :)

My English fiance and I received our first (and hopefully only) request for evidence this week. We sent in his divorce decree with our application but the RFE is asking for a divorce decree that is signed by a judge. Dave went to his county court and found out the divorce decree we sent is the absolute one and that there is no copy signed by a judge...they simply don't do it that way. Anyone come across this type of situation before and know what to do? Any suggestions?

Thank you!


Here's a perfect thread for you --exact same thing--- http://www.visajourn..._1#entry4788844
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-02-14 08:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI live in Los Angeles area. Why does this site tell me to send my I-129F to Texas?
I've been around a long time and know the London K1 process especially well. So a few comments to add the the excellent info you've already been given.

Lockbox
USCIS changed to the Lockbox setup for I-129F petitions to make their process more efficient and more cost effective by doing the preliminary work-up at one site. They had already been using a lockbox in Chicago for Adjustment of Status applications. They have contractors in a separate "lockbox" facility opening the mail. They check for basic documents, correct payment, and signatures. If all is well, they deposit the fee, generate a NOA1 receipt, scan documents into the computer, and reorganize your papers into a specific order/file for USCIS processing. Then it goes to a USCIS Service Center and waits until the day a USCIS adjudicator will review it.

I think many of the timelines of processing at the Texas Service Center are probably erroneous because other VJ members thought Texas Lockbox was the same as Texas Service Center, much like you did. So when they set up their VJ timelines they said TSC. Their data will be reported as TSC, even if CSC actually was the eventual Service Center, if they never go back and fix their VJ timeline. All the cumulative data on VJ is dependent on members making correct timeline entries and keeping it updated.

How do they find out K1s married or suspect such?

a few I've heard--
Photos in wedding garb they take to their interview (dumb!)
Photos in wedding garb found in luggage at POE. Were refused entry on a fiance visa.
FACEBOOK! Yes, USCIS has admitted they use social media to vet applicants qualifications for a visa. So imagine your fiance changes her profile picture on FB to you and her cutting the wedding cake in September. You go interview in London in November..... caught!

Timing
Times change constantly depending on workload. I looked at the I-129F filers the month before me and they were getting NOA2 in 2-4 weeks so that's what I expected. It changed to 2 months by my group (March). It was 3 months for the next group (April). Just shows how it's difficult to predict because it can change for better or worse quickly.

Service center to NVC--supposed to be a week. I remember when people have had delays there of many weeks.
K1 at NVC- supposed to take 3 days but some get held up and aren't sent on to the embassy right away.
London Embassy- The most efficient people can get through in 2 months or just over. Many who don't study the process for tips and tricks take 3-4 months. Here's a good thread full of London tips in the UK forum. http://www.visajourn...terview-thread/

If I was placing a bet, I would say you will not have a visa in hand in 6 months but there are many variables so anything can happen. The smarter your are about filing perfect paperwork and being ready for London instead of waiting for them to send you instruction, the faster you will process. And the nicer you act on VJ, the more likely someone will take time to sincerely help you with the experience they have gained over years of seeing hundreds of cases. You've already shown a little bit of "attitude" in this post. Just sayin'.

Edited by Nich-Nick, 14 March 2012 - 11:47 AM.

Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-14 11:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresJoint Sponsor or Household Member??

I wonder if someone can help me? I am preparing the next load of paperwork in preparation for the interview stage at the embassy and in preparing the I-134 I am a little confused as to the definition of a joint sponsor versus a household member. My fiance's Dad will be joint sponsoring us but as we would be living in the same house I am not sure if we should have him fill out as a joint sponsor or as a household member whose income you combine with my fiance's. Anyone know??

There's no place to put a household member's income on the I-134. Dad can fill out an I-134 if he wants to sponsor. You're thinking of the I-864 that will be filed with AOS.

Also someone told me you need three years worth of tax returns but I can't see that stated anywhere in the guidelines. Am I missing something?

London will approve with zero tax returns. This thread may be helpful to you. Lot's of London info for where you are now. http://www.visajourn...terview-thread/
Also read the instructions for the I-134 and look at the form. If you have more questions about it and what London requires, ask in that thread. Each consulate is different.
Nich-NickNot TellingUnited Kingdom2012-03-15 23:51:00