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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHELP FILING
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kashawn07MaleJamaica2013-03-31 20:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhy so few NOA2s in January??
Wow... i wish you all good luck. I hope its better than ours. I sent package to Texas (then transferred to CSC) in April. NOA1 was May 1. Its Jan 24 and still no NOA2. Got RFE in Oct. and they received it on Nov. 5th. Soooo.. hang in there. We are.... MSN instant messanger is getting OLD really quick now. I am hoping my next trip to Brazil will be to the U.S embassy.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-01-24 22:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide (Advanced Security Check)
QUOTE (rick @ Feb 6 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Gra and Daniel @ Feb 6 2008, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been told by a CSC rep. that I am at the advanced securty check over at CSC. I am awaiting my NOA2. I was sent an RFE for a technicality on the application in October and they registered receiving back and continuing it on Nov. 5. It is Feb. 6th (91 days later) and still no response. So, now I know they are in advanced stages of a security check and I am almost sure I know why. I was convicted of Vehicular Homicide in 2004 (my best friend died in my car in a single car accident in 2002). I served 9 months in prison and I am currently on probation for a very long time. I have fulfilled everything the courts have asked of me and I am squared away with them and I back living my normal pre-accident life and trying hard to get my fiance here.

Before I started my application (April 2007), I wondered if I should check off the box where it states if I have commited the following crimes, the ones that were stated on the application, including Homicide, murder, etc. I called the USCIS and asked one of the customer support people if they would consider Vehicular Homicide actual Homicide (in my mind, I know its not even close to being the same thing but I wanted to know if they felt the same way). They told me NO so I decided not to check anything. What do you think? Vehicular Homicide was not mentioned specifically in the crimes that need to be disclosed so I did not disclose with the blessing of USCIS customer service rep. I did not send a letter of explanation thinking that I would just complicate things, now I am wondering if an adjudicator would view this as me not being forthcoming with my criminal past. In either case, do you think they will A.) do their research and see it was an accident and everything is squared away at this point, B.) send an RFE with all dispositions and accompaning docs for my case or C.) deny the app.?

Any insite will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Daniel
Petitioner USC
Tampa, FL



Hi Daniel,

My fiance had a vehicular accident too last 1987 and there was one lady that died during the incident, he was sent an RFE requesting to get a clearance from the court that his case is closed and cleared. He sent back the RFE to CSC and his petition was approved after they received the document.

Cora


Thank you, I will be ready with all my dispostions and docs showing my case is closed if they send me an RFE. May I ask how long it took after he sent the doc to get the approval and also he disclosed the accident at the start of the application process? Thank you.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-02-07 01:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide (Advanced Security Check)
QUOTE (CBR @ Feb 6 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, I have been told my file is in security checks also (they used the terms extended review and name checks as well on the other 2 occasions i called). I have NO criminal background whatsoever. I don't even have traffic violations, nothing, nada zip!! My fiance doesn't either. I'm at the same stage, awaiting noa2.

I guess my point is that while it's possible that's why yours is being held up, there are also others (me) who are held up that have NOTHING in their past record as well.

Also, I didn't think something like that on the petitioner's part was of concern to them since you're already here. If you had a domestic abuse history I can understand why they wouldn't want you bringing someone into the country to abuse. But a car accident. Idk. Was it a drunk driving offense? Not sure if that would be an issue.


Yes, unfortunately, it was alcohol related. I feel the same way, if it wasnt a domestic abuse thing (something that would affect a potential spouse) how would my one time accident affect my K1. We will see soon enough I hope.

Edited by Gra and Daniel, 07 February 2008 - 01:45 AM.

Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-02-07 01:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide (Advanced Security Check)
QUOTE (Steve @ Feb 6 2008, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First of all, I'm sure there other VJers that can give you more solid information with regards to your situation, however, I would assume that they will send you an RFE for that. The petition was filed without including this information which in my humble opinion should have been added. You are not complicating a petition by being 100% honest about everything (including not so positive points) but rather by omitting information.

I would suggest to wait and, should things get more complicated, talk to a lawyer.

Anyway, good luck with the process. I hope everything will work out fine for you and your SO.


Well, not that i my intentions were not to be 100% honest, but more that my specific crime was not listed on application and there was nothing for me to check off. Where would I have added it? A additional letter of explanation? Again, this was not even suggested by the USCIS person i called before i started my app so i did not feel as if i was ommiting anything. Well, if they send me an RFE, i will be ready for it. I have all my dispostion docs ready. I really hope i do not have to retain a lawyer, God knows they have taken enough of my money already. Thanks for your response.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-02-07 01:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide (Advanced Security Check)
I have been told by a CSC rep. that I am at the advanced securty check over at CSC. I am awaiting my NOA2. I was sent an RFE for a technicality on the application in October and they registered receiving back and continuing it on Nov. 5. It is Feb. 6th (91 days later) and still no response. So, now I know they are in advanced stages of a security check and I am almost sure I know why. I was convicted of Vehicular Homicide in 2004 (my best friend died in my car in a single car accident in 2002). I served 9 months in prison and I am currently on probation for a very long time. I have fulfilled everything the courts have asked of me and I am squared away with them and I back living my normal pre-accident life and trying hard to get my fiance here.

Before I started my application (April 2007), I wondered if I should check off the box where it states if I have commited the following crimes, the ones that were stated on the application, including Homicide, murder, etc. I called the USCIS and asked one of the customer support people if they would consider Vehicular Homicide actual Homicide (in my mind, I know its not even close to being the same thing but I wanted to know if they felt the same way). They told me NO so I decided not to check anything. What do you think? Vehicular Homicide was not mentioned specifically in the crimes that need to be disclosed so I did not disclose with the blessing of USCIS customer service rep. I did not send a letter of explanation thinking that I would just complicate things, now I am wondering if an adjudicator would view this as me not being forthcoming with my criminal past. In either case, do you think they will A.) do their research and see it was an accident and everything is squared away at this point, B.) send an RFE with all dispositions and accompaning docs for my case or C.) deny the app.?

Any insite will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Daniel
Petitioner USC
Tampa, FL
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-02-06 17:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide
QUOTE (Cassie @ Mar 10 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (KimandRuss @ Mar 10 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is under the similar topics box below... may help you.



It was started by the OP smile.gif


No way to get expunged. I plead guilty in lieu of going to trial. I received a little prison time and years and years of probation. Only way to get it off record would be a Governor pardon. May be an option in future after I show all the community work I have done at local High Schools. But right now, all I want is to get a USCIS approval.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-03-10 11:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide
QUOTE (Bassi and Zainab @ Mar 10 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Gra and Daniel @ Mar 10 2008, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct, I am the US Citizen. And as per falling under the umbrella of manslaughter.... I would have to say you may have a point but at the same time, don't some types of un-premeditated murders get plead down to manslaughter thus totally seperating it from an accidental vehicular homicide resulting from a car wreck. I would have to say yes. This incident DID involved alcohol and yes, it would most definetely show up on a records check. I would have nothing to hide as it would be impossible anyway. I would have most definetely included it in my initial application but like so many things, I do not want to open up an excuse for unnessary red tape and delays. It really doesnt matter at this point, I am going on 335 days since NOA1 and I just want it to get approval at this point. Thanks for the responses... keep them coming.


Vehicular homicide is not considered manslaughter. It's considered negligent homicide. It's lower than manslaughter.


QUOTE (mox @ Mar 10 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was alcohol or controlled substances a factor, and would that fact show up on a police report?


If it involved alcohol or a controlled substance it would count towards one of the three instances. Do you have other instances, say of DUIs?


No, nothing, although during the same incident I also pleaded guilty to DUI with Serious Bodily injury resulting from the same accident. This has been the only time I have ever been in any legal trouble.

Edited by Gra and Daniel, 10 March 2008 - 11:34 AM.

Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-03-10 11:33:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide
QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Mar 10 2008, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (briff2000 @ Mar 10 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This for me, is an interesting comment as I am in a very similar position. I was charged in 2000 with vehicular manslaughter (my brother in my car) whilst visiting the US (I am non US applying for K3). I pleaded 'no-contest', was never arrested and had a probabtion period and fine. When I fill in the form I am expecting to tick 'yes'. However I have been through the visa legislation and vehicular manslaughter is not an inadmissable offence and is not deemed a crime of moral turpitude. Therefore I still plan on ticking 'yes' but will be arguing if need be that it is not grounds to deny a visa. However now I have read your thread (Gra and Daniel) I will be very interested to hear of your outcome or any further details.

All the best

I suspect the OP is the US Citizen petitioner, dealing with the IMBRA section of the I-129F petition form.



Correct, I am the US Citizen. And as per falling under the umbrella of manslaughter.... I would have to say you may have a point but at the same time, don't some types of un-premeditated murders get plead down to manslaughter thus totally seperating it from an accidental vehicular homicide resulting from a car wreck. I would have to say yes. This incident DID involved alcohol and yes, it would most definetely show up on a records check. I would have nothing to hide as it would be impossible anyway. I would have most definetely included it in my initial application but like so many things, I do not want to open up an excuse for unnessary red tape and delays. It really doesnt matter at this point, I am going on 335 days since NOA1 and I just want it to get approval at this point. Thanks for the responses... keep them coming.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-03-10 11:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresVehicular Homicide
I pleaded guilty to vehicular homicide (friend died in my car after accident). After reading the criminal disclosure section countless times and not being able to justify by the letter a reason to mark "yes" to their questions, I called USCIS cust. service before application submission and I asked them if I should check any part of the criminal section on the K1 application seing that this was a serious crime. They said no and I sent in the application with no check marks or explanations letters. You see, my crime was neither manslaugher or homicide (murder), it was Vehicular homicide, which was not on the application. I want to believe what the the customer rep. told me but like so many of us on this forum, they are are at the very least, hard to trust. In either case, I am sweating a little bit because I sent my application in April 2007 and I know that at this point my application has been thru and advanced security check and has finally been sent back to CSC after being sent to whatever agency it was sent to. I guess my question is, what do you good people of this forum think my final adjudication be after leaving everything blank on my application? Opinions are appreciated. Thanks.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-03-10 10:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTravel-
QUOTE (Kathryn41 @ Jun 11 2008, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It won't matter what country a fiancee is arriving from when she presents her K-1 at the border to activate it. Immigration processes a lot of visa applicants coming from different flights at the same time as there will often be a variety of different flights from different locations arriving all around the same time. People are not classified as all Columbian citizens, then all Chinese citizens, etc. They aren't looking at where her ticket says she is coming from, only at her passport to verify she has a visa and is entitled to enter the US and activate her K-1 visa. Good luck!


thanks a lot.. i will be purchasing my tics soon.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-06-11 19:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresTravel-
My fiancee is from Brazil. She just received her K1 Visa and can now enter the U.S. My parents are Colombian and I travel to Colombia all the time. I will be going in August and I want my fiancee to join me. The thing is that I want her to go straight to the U.S with me from Colombia. So question is.. Can she enter the U.S with a K1 Fiancee Visa if it not from her native country? My gut feeling is that it will not be a problem because people travel and a visa is a visa. I just want to be 100% since I am buying these plane tickets now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Gra and DanielMaleBrazil2008-06-11 17:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmake a mistake in 129f?

You're fine. We listed Toronto as the consulate we'd like to interview at and NVC automatically adjusted it for us to interview in Montreal. Nothing can be done now at the USCIS level. Is Rio the only consulate that does K interviews? If you continue to be concerned, call NVC when your case gets there and ensure the correction is made.

Good luck.



Thank You!
yermeinMaleBrazil2010-01-17 19:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresmake a mistake in 129f?
I made a mistake in the 129F how it can be fix after sending the forms?
The question was # 20. Your fiance will apply a visa at the American embassy or consulate at: and i wrote Sao Paulo, Brazil instead of Rio de Janeiro.

What to do now?
yermeinMaleBrazil2010-01-17 19:36:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAge Difference
IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM, AS LONG AS U GUYS ARE IN LOVE...
Elizabeth-YunielFemaleCuba2010-12-06 00:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWHAT DOES THIS MAIL FROM NVC MEANS? WHERE IS OUR PETITION????
Hi Goldie,

Not sure if you're the USC or who is. If you update your profile with the timeline info, it goes into the tracking system here on VJ that keeps statistics. I could also see who submitted the petition and who is the beneficiary.

The Schweizer(in) whichever one of you that is knows about Beamten in Europa, about Behoerden-mentalitaet. American civil servants aren't different. I've never been one though I worked with many for over ten years so I know how they act and think. Quality, logical are not in their vocabulary. Holidays, retirement, quitting time, entitlements ... those matter, values don't.

Hoping it gets clarified for ya'll very soon! :yes: :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 20:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresThe topic I have been waiting to start!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS! :dance:

Hope the rest is smooth. :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 08:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresHaving Difficulty Entering Type on G-325A form
The simple answer to your question is that if you have the correct version of Adobe, that is V7, you only have to type in on page 1. Pages 2, 3, and 4 get automagically populated with the exact info from page 1.

I actually own a license, for other reasons I just happen to have it, for Pro V7 so my issues were different.

For example, if the info you need to type in a box is too long it doesn't warn you it place a "+" and there've been some UCS' who've sent it in that way and I believe it was returned because the info was truncated.

If you don't have V7 Pro, then you cannot save the PDF; you must edit and print; you cannot save. This is as of when I downloaded the PDF from USCIS in February.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 20:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetition Status At NVC? How to check?
Hi Billy,
Well I was trying to be positive. I just posted the link to the official statement by the NVC Department of State on the returned petitions. I don't know if what's there will give you a hint of what might be going on. It appears that the NVC is doing extra checks on the USC as a result of the IMBRA requirements.
Hope yours gets sent quickly!!!

Larry :yes:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 21:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetition Status At NVC? How to check?
Billy,

Actually, this may be good. There are many reports that some Fed workers are saying the NVC is doing extra checks on the USC when the petitions are returned.

It might be that the instructions are now at the NVC and petitions that have not been forwarded are having the extra checks to avoid more returned petitions.

I don't know this as true; it is logical.

Oh I forgot -- the Feds logical??!!! :lol: I mean does that make phreaquin' sense? The Feds are logical?
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 20:15:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI-797
Louie,
Have you tried calling the NVC and asking them?
They seem to have been able to tell the USC one way or the other if the petition's in the system.
Reading many posts on the subject here it seems some people never get notification or even confirmation when the petition's received by phone call and then suddenly it shows up at the embassy.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-22 21:05:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWhats going on??
read these recent VJ topics

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=14805

http://www.visajourn...showtopic=14910
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 16:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures129-F/IMBA
Go to this link

http://travel.state....grams_2927.html

it is in the post I did earlier on this subject.

There's a statement about criminal background investigation.

That link is the official link; there's also another thread about this.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 15:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetition left NVC
Thanks, Billy!

As usual, I'll be reading the mail for your next good news to celebrate with ya'll!!

I just called and they said still undergoing review for us.

Also, I asked about clarification on the NOA1 Received Date and it appears that Date IS THE mark date.

If that's the case then we're outside the horrid IMBRA ... gee it's so close I just hope for Maria's sake it is March 1 and they don't mess with us. Don't you just hate it when your love cries from being unhappy!!

Larry
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 13:59:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPetition left NVC
GREAT, Billy!!!!

All the best and good speed!! :dance: :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 13:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresI got touched
Yeah, they really like to touch you. Maybe they're the touchie feelie kind :lol:
CONGRATULATIONS! :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-10 00:09:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIMBRA?
George Bush gleefully signed the bill and our Representative and Senators wrote the phraquin' thing.
It was a part slipped into another bill if I've understood what I've seen.
Another sneaky elected official screw job.
:yes: thank you very much ... how wonderful they are.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 12:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Proceduresgiving out case number
NO! That's personal information and no one's business. Somewhat like SSN and other sensitive personal information.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 20:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresThank you :))
Wishing for you both things go quickly and smoothly from now on!!
:yes: :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 13:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresIMBRA Meltdown Assessment
I have not done this though there are numerous answers to posts where people have directly done whatever their Representative and their two Senators' offices told them to to get the elected Government official whose duty it is to get these types of anwers to get the answers. Some have had success; some seem to have had different responses. Your mileage will vary. Persist!! Your telephone book will have the representatives and you can call the local office and ask if you're street address is in their district. Then ask tell them the situation of which they'll be clueless, usually, and tell them it's urgent and how best to get and answer. The elected House and Senate members are also on the web.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 20:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresWE GOT US A VISA!!!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!! :dance: :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 12:29:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresQuestions About Preparing Packet
See if this isn't the USCIS site for assembling materials.

http://uscis.gov/gra...nal/index.htm#H
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 12:49:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNOA2 Approved CSC
CONGRATULATIONS!! :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-25 10:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNebraska is working!!!!
Well AnK CONGRATULATIONS!!

See ya'll in Moscow!

:dance: :thumbs:
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-23 20:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresAM I IN TOO MUCH OF A RUSH
If you send certified with return receipt you get back a post card with the receipt date and signature.
Also, tracking is available so you can go online and track the shipment and get the confirmed delivery.
If anything's important and it has to go USPS, then certified w/return receipt is the way to go.
You can also spend extra for registered and that's done in a secured manner to each person who handles it has to sign for handling the document, package.
If you don't have to use USPS, say it's going to a physical address not a PO Box then industry standard for a number of years has been FedEx which gets the most attention as important, not UPS -- sorry UPS, that's reality.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-17 13:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC Administrative Review
Ok I still don't know where I stand. A former CIS employee who was an adjudicator and occasionally shows up on a Russian BBS. I asked about my case and told him both sets of dates for the NOA1 and NOA2. He claims I fall under IMBRA.

NOA1
Received 3/1/06
Notice 3/7/06

NOA2
Received 3/7/06 [why is this not 3/1? what does the change from 3/1 to 3/7 mean?]
Notice 5/8/06
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-26 09:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC Administrative Review
Lorelle, you're probably correct. Here's the reference I was looking at and didn't remember the one at the bottom of the DOS notice.

http://travel.state....grams_2927.html

SUBJECT: FIANCÉ(E) I-129F PETITONS RECALLED BY DHS

1. Summary: The International Marriage Broker Regulation
(IMBRA) was signed by the President January 5th of this
year. A 60-day deadline, March 5, 2006, was established
for DHS to begin asking K-1 fiancé(e) petitioners for
their criminal background information. DHS did not meet
the deadline for collecting additional information. Some
petitions filed after the deadline were approved in error
under the old procedures and sent through the National
Visa Center (NVC) to posts for processing. Approximately
1100 cases went to 95 IV-issuing posts. Posts are
preparing to return these cases as quickly as possible to
NVC. End Summary.

My emphasis bold in color.
I read further down and the mention the DHS center though this doesn't say that; it says NVC.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-25 19:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC Administrative Review
I called NVC last night.

I asked the status of the Petition.

They said it's in Administrative Review [AR].

I said can you please tell me what that means?

They said it is in Washington at agencies.

I assume this is probably the IMBRA criminal background check that post 3/6/06 petitions have to go through.

And that's "For What It's Worth" == FWIW

IMHO == In My Humble Opinion.

I know from other's on other boards that an AR, regardless of where it is, is a security check and you will not find out anything more until they're finished and release the outcome or a type of adjudication at that point. I watched this unfold last month on another BBS with a USC male who went to the interview thinking all was ok. The visa didn't come and there was no indication of a problem. Then they started checking and it was in "Administrative Review." She finally got the visa about a month later after the AR was finished probably a name check hit on her in Russia.

This AR is for me I'm sure; maybe this will speed up our progress instead of the Petition going to Moscow and then being sent back to USCIS somewhere.

Cheers!
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-25 11:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresNVC Administrative Review
That's what I was told last night.

FWIW: this could be the extra IMBRA criminal background check.

If so, then when we get sent to the Embassy will be a good mark for the rest of you when you get sent to NVC IF the background check doesn't come from your respective SC.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-25 10:42:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresPhotocopying your passport
stang_01, if it asks for Birth Certificate, that is what they want and if you don't send it, I'm sure you'll get and RFE asking for it.
Larry and MariaMaleRussia2006-05-27 05:51:00