ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
US Citizenship General DiscussionDo I need to bring my children to Oath Ceremony?
QUOTE (helloagain @ Aug 1 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just received the notice for the Oath Ceremony and it stated that I must bring

a) the letter
cool.gif Permanent Resident Card
c) Reentry Permit or Refugee Travel Document
d) Any Immigration documents you may have
e) If the naturalization application is on behalf of you child, bring your child.

c) is not applicable as I do not have any of these documents.

My understanding is that once I naturalized, my children under 18 will automatically become US citizen. Does it mean that my application is also for my children so e) would apply? Do I have to bring them to the Oath Ceremony?

Any advise is appreciated.


I think the keyword from here is "on behalf of your child".
You can ask for better clarification to your friendly USCIS interview officer by InpoPass appointment or phone calls.
But e) applys when you apply N400 under your children's name, and you co-signed as guardian or something like that.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2008-08-02 13:03:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionDo I have any rights??
I don't think so.
Intil you have the certificate of naturalization in your hands, you are NOT US citizen, yet.

But one thing you can do is to schedule InfoPass appointment with your new USCIS DO in the area.
If it is more than 120 days since you moved in, you can request the case update in person, and ask for expedite processing.
If you feel you need more than that, you can try to use court system called Mandamus action.

http://www.ailf.org/..._mandamus.shtml


Edited by moonhunt, 19 February 2009 - 11:34 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-19 23:32:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionI am an American citizen!
QUOTE (mattr @ Feb 19 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks everyone smile.gif

I applied for my passport today. I will wait until I get the passport back in about 3 weeks to do the SS change. At the ceremony the officer also talked about the DMV. I checked the DMV site and I don't really see anything having to do with naturalization, did I miss anything? Or does it have to do with the voting registration which I already did after the ceremony???

Now of course I can't prove my citizenship for the next two weeks... and I can't leave the country in case of emergency.. argh!

Mattr.


Yes, you have to update SSA and DMV record.
Because of Real-ID and enhanced security, when DMV renew the driver license, they verify your immigration status.
So when you receive new U.S. Passport, you can bring U.S. Passport with you, and show them for your status.
Then they will not ask for the proof again.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 00:49:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionI am an American citizen!
Congratulations!

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moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-18 20:35:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionDress Code for Citizenship Interview
QUOTE (KyngSilva @ Feb 18 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
or you can dress up in your birthday suit and see what happens rofl.gif


What about wearing Superman suit or Wonderwoman suit ? whistling.gif
Wonderwoman suit has stars and stipes, so it may be considered as cheating for Interview? devil.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 18:50:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionDress Code for Citizenship Interview
QUOTE (JOSHIE @ Feb 17 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is the dress code for citizenship interview for both men and women i have my interview next week just wanted to check on the dress code.


There is no dress code as raymaga said.
But you want to be looked as professional and nice. whistling.gif
USCIS adjudicator should not have prejudice based on your look, but sometimes they do because they are human. innocent.gif
Consider interview/oath as your job interview or something like that.
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-17 15:25:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat if U.S. Husband/Wife is in JAIL???
QUOTE (lucyrich @ Feb 20 2009, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, is the incarceration due to "circumstances beyond their control"? I'd argue that it isn't, but others might argue the opposite. In the US, you're supposed to be able to avoid incarceration by avoiding illegal behavior. Certainly incarceration isn't "service in the armed forces of the United States or essential business or occupational demands".

The first and last paragraphs quoted in that block above might suggest that it could depend on the amount of time the couple was separated due to incarceration. If they never lived together, or lived together only a very short time, I'd suspect it would be less likely to be judged as valid. But if they spent almost the entire three years living together in valid marital union, and were only interrupted for a short period by the incarceration, it might be argued to be valid.

But I really don't know how they'd rule, and I've never heard of such a case actually being tested.


Good job, lucyrich

I think it is necessary to bring experienced immigration attorney.
If it is immigrant, who commited crime or something like that, I would say No.
But if it is US citizen's fault, it is considered as "beyond the control" by immigrant.
That's why I think there is a chance.
I guess it will be depending on how you represent your situation with strong logic behind it.

Otherwise, wait for 2 more years, and file as 5 year residency basis.
USCIS will still check the marriage relationship, but they may see it a little differently.
Probably visiting record for US citizen may help a little bit.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 09:24:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat if U.S. Husband/Wife is in JAIL???
QUOTE (peruvianfamily @ Feb 19 2009, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello, I have a random question for a local case around here. What if your American Husband/Wife is in Jail by the time that your eligible to file your N400? Are you still eligible under naturalization based on marriage?
I have my personal opinion but I know that there's a lot of wise VJ's around there. So, what do u think? unsure.gif


Probably yes.
Even though they are not living together, but it can be considered as extreme case if everything else looks good.
N400 is strictly focus on individual's record.
N400 applicant may not meet the condition for living together, but it is beyond his/her control.
It may be similar to the situation that US citizen was ordered to other country for combat situation, and the spouse may have to stay in U.S.
Not the same, but it is similar because both situation will not give any choice for the spouse.

But again, it may be depending on details, which may be varied from the case to the case.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-19 23:19:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionFinal Stage
QUOTE (waiting4visas @ Feb 20 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder if anyone has ever framed their timeline for their home or office? Or something that shows their journey.


Not the timeline, but I have all immigration documents in the folder.
I have all the originals and copies from B2/B1 to H1B to V1 to I-130 IR-1 to naturalization for last 13 years. whistling.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 22:44:00
US Citizenship General Discussionspouses presence needed at interview
Regardless the need for interview, I would recommend the spouse's presence just for their support.
It will be easier for interviewee's moral support, and after all done, they can celebrate their progress.

Basically in most cases, USCIS adjudicator may not look at the case in detail until interview moment.
So during interview process, anything can happen.

We can hope more from the government agency, but there is a reason why we have the term of beaurocracy for.
If they can't do that, I guess we have to prepare for every possibility just in case.

The requirement for spouse's presence is not happening to everybody.
It is a kind of random checking.
So in most case, it may not be an issue, but in very rare cases, you may have unlucky situation to be asked for your spouse's presence.

As we heard, better over-prepared than hearing "sorry!".

Edited by moonhunt, 19 February 2009 - 08:13 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-19 20:10:00
US Citizenship General Discussioncourthouse oath ceremony
QUOTE (Lappa @ Feb 20 2009, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do we really have to go court to change our name when we apply N-400 ? I heard that will happen in the oath ceremony in the immigration office. Why do you have to go court?


In my case, they originally scheduled for court house, but later they changed the location to USCIS DO.
I didn't see the judge from oath ceremony.
But it may be special case because USCIS tried to push as many people as they can for presidential election.

I got signed copy of "petition for name change" from USCIS two months later , which was signed by US federal court judge.

Edited by moonhunt, 20 February 2009 - 09:38 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 21:38:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNATURALIZATION PROCESS.. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE ?
QUOTE (cookiee @ Feb 22 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
one more question

http://www.uscis.gov...00048f3d6a1RCRD

check or money order for the application fee and the biometric services fee (Applicants 75 years of age or older are exempted from the biometrics services fee). Write your "A-number" on the back of the check or money order.


do we need to use pen or pencil to write A-number on the back of the check ??


You are not supposed to write anything in the back of the check or money order.
Front of the check or money order should have "memo" field from left, bottom corner.
You can write your A# in the memo field.


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-22 21:38:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNATURALIZATION PROCESS.. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE ?

Remember that USCIS clock may not working as you expected.
In most case, it is working on their own schedule.
If somebody got N400 done in 6 months, it doesn't mean you will be same. whistling.gif

Per U.S. law, US Citizen should use U.S. Passport when he/she leave/enter U.S. territories.
That means from the day of oath taken, you have to use U.S. Passport for in/out from U.S.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-14 21:47:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNATURALIZATION PROCESS.. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE ?
QUOTE (cookiee @ Feb 13 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi guys

hopefully, i'm going to apply citizenship end of February to Texas and this summer i'm planing to stay in my home country for my sister wedding from june to august.

what do you think , How long does it take to get an interview letter ? any experiences, from florida ???

thanks


If I were you, I may file N400 after your trip.

If you file it on Feb, it may add complexity for your situation.
For an example, if your case is processed soon enough to have oath ceremony around your travel time, you can not leave the country until you have US passport in your hands.
Or if it is slow enough to put your interview and/or oath ceremony around your planned trip period, it's going to cause additional headache and delay for your N400 process.

one or two weeks travel may not be a problem.
But a couple of month travel plan may be not a good idea during N400 process.

Edited by moonhunt, 14 February 2009 - 02:46 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-14 14:45:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionLiving together requirement
QUOTE (bggirl @ Feb 20 2009, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, all,

I would like to ask for opinion on the requirement to "live together" when filing under the 3-year exception. It did not bother me before but after reading some of the posts, I am starting to get paranoid blink.gif
My husband and I have been married for 4 and a half years, and my interview for citizenship is next month. Last year I spent a little over 5 months outside the States (in my home country due to my mom having surgery), I came back for almost 3 months, and then I had to go again for another 2 months. Now I am back. Do you think they might consider these two instances as "not living together" for the purpose of citizenship?

Thanks for your input!


Probably not.
But it is depending on USCIS adjudicator during your interview.
Just in case, you may want to bring the proof for following.

- being married with your spouse for 4 and half year, and also having happy marriage life
- the proof for reason to be out of country for that long. Such as the letter to explain your mom's health condition, doctor's letter to explain your mom's health requiring somebody's attention, and/or other things like that.
- notarized affidavit of support statement from your neighbors stating your marriage life ?


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-20 21:43:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionIs Fairfax still conducting same day oaths?

It seems that they stopped doing same day interview/oath combo service.

http://www.visajourn...h...t&p=2666705

But you may want to confirm it through USCIS customer center by asking to talk to interview officer.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-19 23:26:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN400 Interview
QUOTE (Oscar Spatz @ Feb 24 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Received my letter a few days ago. On the fron it states "request for applicant to appear for naturalization initial interview" this "initial" has me confused and worried. Anyone know how many interviews are in the process?


If you passed the exam at first try, you don't need second one. whistling.gif

Usually if USCIS adjudicator found some information lacked, they will ask you drop those off , or mail them.
So no second interview is required for most cases.

But if you fail English/Civic/history test, you have one more chance.
So they will schedule "second" interview when you are ready.

Therefore study hard for English/Civic/History test. devil.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-24 23:44:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionHow much for a U.S. passport at oath ceremony?
QUOTE (Aussielad @ Feb 25 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i meant at the oath ceremony, i KNOW that i DONT get a passport on that same day, i was wanting to APPLY for one while at the oath ceremony, but i guess i'll have to do it during the week...


Even though US post office postmaster come out for accepting US Passport application, you don't want to do that.

At least, you want to make the copy of the certificate of naturalization before sending US passport application form with "original" certificate of naturalization.

US post office will use priority mail, but it may be lost in the mail. whistling.gif

At least, you want to have backup copy just in case.

You can have personal backup copy without a problem.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:23:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionAfter citizenship: need to contact Social security and DMV
QUOTE (2bornot2b @ Feb 25 2009, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand why you need to apply for a passport but why do you have to inform Social security and dmv regarding change in status?

The social security card I have been carrying for more than 10 years since getting my greencard and my driver's license is just as long. Do we need to contact those 2 agencies regarding status change?


Because Social Security Admin office kept your immigration status tied to your social security number...

Some of Social Security Benefit is limited to US citizen...
Some of Social Security Benefit may be differ based on immigration status.

For an example, you can receive some of Social Security benefit from overseas if you are U.S. citizen.

Also, it will help your immigration status consistent to other organization.

For an example, Voting system and DMV is cross-checking your immigration status using your social security number and names.

You have to file SS-5, the same form you used to request SSN, to update your immigration status from Lawful Permanent Resident to US Citizen.


For DMV, because of Real-ID things, they reenforced the system to have immigration status.
Sometimes it tied to expiry date, too.
So when police officer catch you on the road for speed ticket or something like that, they can check your immigration status.

So it's better to update both SSA, and DMV.

If you have US Passport, you can update both very easily.
It's just the matter of their employee to confirm your identity with US passport and update their system.


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 19:59:00
US Citizenship General Discussion1 day to go!!!
I wish best luck for tomorrow.

Probably it's good time to make the copy of your soon-to-be-surrendered Green Card.
Maybe taking some photos ?
I wish USCIS just punched the green card with "Void, keep it as souvenir!" statement, then return to us as souvenir for all difficult time dealing with INS/USCIS.

Edited by moonhunt, 25 February 2009 - 08:33 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:32:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionNew US Citizen
QUOTE (Zephod @ Feb 24 2009, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello All,
Yea we are done ! == Only need to update with Social Security to get a new card and update her status and get a passport. We are not going to gamble on mailing the Certificate of Citizenship off since it is so hard to replace.. Instead we are going to buy a ticket out of the country and make an appointment at the passport office inside the 2 week windows thus compelling them to issue a passport on the spot an in person...

Peace...

Zephod


Congratulations!
Also make sure that she update her status with DMV when she renew her driver license.
She may have to bring US Passport. whistling.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-24 23:48:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat are you doing with your "old" citizenship?
QUOTE (Thomas and Milena @ Feb 25 2009, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well put. It is also crucial to know the difference between "allowing" dual citizenship and "recognizing" dual citizenship. Very few countries recognize dual citizenship. Almost all countries "allow" it.

I would also try to find the exact South Korean law that prohibits a South Korean national from taking citizenship from another country. I have talked to so many Vietnamese-Americans who do not realize that they have a right to enter Vietnam with a Vietnamese passport. They are scared off by people saying that Vietnam doesn't "allow" dual citizenship. The truth is, it doesn't "recognize" dual citizenship meaning you have to use your Vietnamese passport when leaving and entering Vietnam or else you are breaking the law. Same in the United States. If you use a foreign passport to leave or enter the United States and you are a US citizen, you are breaking the law. That's what not recognizing dual citizenship means. And it doesn't mean you can't "hold" multiple citizenship. It just means you can't present yourself as a dual citizen. That would be bad. And illegal in most places.

There is an excellent wikipedia page on multiple citizenship, and it can help people know their rights. World travel is hard enough as it is, since 9/11 and growing number of walls between countries. Might as well know your rights to make things a bit easier for us law-abiding people.

http://en.wikipedia....ple_citizenship


Good resource to understand dual citizenship is following.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/


If you want South Korean law for this topic, I can point it out, but it is Korean. whistling.gif
There are some exceptions, but it is for more of children born in U.S. and they can keep dual citizenship until 18 years old.
Then they have to decide which one they will choose.

If you have dual citizenship, you may have tax situation unless your home country and US have tax treaty for double taxation because U.S. citizen and permanent resident have tax duty to report their income no matter where it is generating from.

Except that, pretty much you have to use own passport for each country, and for other countries, you have the choice for whcih one you would like to use for your own convenience.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:43:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat are you doing with your "old" citizenship?
QUOTE (Goran @ Feb 25 2009, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That makes sense... I suppose... Thanks for your feedback. As of 2001, Sweden allows dual-citizenship... (used to be a country not recognizing dual citizenship.)


I hope South Korea change it someday.
When I visit Thailand, South Korean can get 90 days with visa-on-arrival program, but US citizen can get 30 days. mad.gif
But any way, I don't have vacations more than 4 weeks. whistling.gif
So it doesn't matter to me. innocent.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:26:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat are you doing with your "old" citizenship?
QUOTE (Goran @ Feb 25 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moonhunt @ Feb 25 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same question from two different persons... whistling.gif

It's the law.
I can still try to use my original country's passport, but it is unlawful.
There are technical issue that old country may not know until I report it.
But if it is the law, it's better to follow it.

If somebody is curious, yes, South Korea doesn't allow dual citizenship because of tax issue and military service conflict issue.


You don't happen to know the Code section for reference? I've looked around, but I haven't really been able to find an actual U.S. law that says that you have to give up your citizenship of the "old" country. huh.gif


Not every countries allows dual citizenship.
Some country may have specifically the law prohibiting dual citizenship.
South Korea has the law spelled that you will loose the citizenship whenever you have citizenship from other country no matter the government recognize it or not.

You can sneak around it, but that's illegal.

US has implicit dual citizenship policy from US dept. of State viewpoint.
Nobody mention it, we didn't see your other country's passport.
Just show US passport when you deal with US, kind of thing.

Practially you can sneak around the loophole of the system, but it is your responsibility to follow the law.
If you can take consequences of your behaviors, it's fine.

But I don't think we recommend to sneak around the law for illegal from this forum, right ? cool.gif


So it is not from US law. It is mandated from South Korea law. whistling.gif

From US law viewpoint, as I mentioned from above, don't mention it, and we don't even see your other country's passport, kind of thing. whistling.gif

I just want to point out that not every country allows dual citizenship even though US allow it with "no comment" policy.

Edited by moonhunt, 25 February 2009 - 08:18 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:17:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat are you doing with your "old" citizenship?
QUOTE (2bornot2b @ Feb 25 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moonhunt @ Feb 25 2009, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some country doesn't have a choice. mad.gif
According to the law, my original citizenship will be lost automatically when I become other country's citizen.


Yes. But how will your original country know? Also you can go back and use your birth certificate to apply for a passport???



Same question from two different persons... whistling.gif

It's the law.
I can still try to use my original country's passport, but it is unlawful.
There are technical issue that old country may not know until I report it.
But if it is the law, it's better to follow it.

If somebody is curious, yes, South Korea doesn't allow dual citizenship because of tax issue and military service conflict issue.
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 20:05:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionWhat are you doing with your "old" citizenship?
Some country doesn't have a choice. mad.gif
According to the law, my original citizenship will be lost automatically when I become other country's citizen.
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-25 18:44:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionN-400 apply 1 day early and approve
Usually they will check during the interview.
What's your NOA1 saying ?

Usually they keep it for a couple of days, and enter your case info to system if USCIS mailroom people find out. whistling.gif

So if you pass the interview, it shouldn't be a problem.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-02-26 19:13:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPassport application
In my case, I did copy the certificate of naturalization first, then visit SSA/DMV to update my new name and immigration status.
After I did all of this, I did stop by USPS office to send US passport application form.

Updating the record from SSA/DMV will take a minute because they only need to see that in person.

Only the dept of State Passport application center requires to mail the certificate of naturalization.
So I put US passport as last thing.
In total, it takes less than 10 days to complete all of above. whistling.gif
moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-12 02:02:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionIR-1 visa
QUOTE (MMW @ Mar 13 2009, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know I am getting ahead of the game here but I was wondering if my wife comes to the US on a IR-1 visa (10 yr GC) is there any steps besides the SS card applying she needs to do before we reach the citizenship part? AOS ETC.? Not sure if this is the place to post this question.


If it is IR-1, you don't have to worry about lifting the condition.
Usually your wife will receive the Social Security Card and plastic I-551 permanent resident card - Also known as Green Card - via mail within 4 weeks.
If your wife doesn't receive those within 4 weeks, she needs to check with USCIS and/or SSA.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-13 08:08:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPassport processing time after getting citizenship
QUOTE (AusCal @ Mar 16 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I only signed the certificate on the area where it was marked to sign my name. Why would I have signed next to the photo? I do remember that the photo on the certificate is already signed on the back, from when I submitted it with my N-400 application - are you getting something confused with that requirement? I can't remember whether I had to sign the back of the photo's I submitted with my passport application.I too scanned my certificate and printed out a copy before I applied for my passport. I'll be happy to receive my certificate back, and passport - I don't like being without a passport


On the back of photo, you may write your A# and your name with light tip pencil when you did submit the N400 form.

Adjudicator during the interview ask interviewee to sign full signature on the corner of photo, usually left side of empty space next to your face.
In my case, I changed my legal name during the process, so it was delayed to oath ceremony moment.

So you will have two signatures on the certificate of naturalization.
One on the photo itself, and another on the certificate.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-16 15:47:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPassport processing time after getting citizenship
QUOTE (mooninlove @ Mar 16 2009, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Moon & Auscal, did you guys sign the right side of your photo on your Nat Certificate?? Or just the area where you sign your full name? They just handed the Certificate to me and they said sign it when you get home..I'm gonna make a copy of it before applying for my passport this week.


From the certificate of naturalization, you have to sign two places.

One on the photo (probably corner of photo)
Another on right upper side on the certificate itself


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-16 13:46:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionPassport processing time after getting citizenship
Last November mine took 6 days with regular service. No expedite rush service.

It's processing time will be varied from time to time.

But since we have this news available today, I think they are trying to enforce new verficiation system.

http://www.cnn.com/2...=rss_topstories

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-14 15:41:00
US Citizenship General Discussiondoes anyone know whats that interview all about during the N-400 process...
QUOTE (Italian_in_NYC @ Mar 17 2009, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The applicant doesn't need to bring the spouse.
Save him/her a boring day waiting in various lines. He/she won't even be allowed in.


For US Citizen spouse accompanying issue, it is very rare to ask US citizen spouse's presentation.
But sometimes it may happen for marriage based case like Lyuba's case.
It is depending on USCIS adjudicator.
They may go with random spot check for whether their marriage is real, and US citizen spouse is real person.

But in most case, US Citizen spouse may sit in waiting room for their beloved to finish their interview.

A lot of extreme evidence request may come from USCIS adjudicator, but it is really up to whom you will meet during the interview, and the date/time of the interview.

US citizen spouse presence request may come one in million cases, but if you are the one, your case may be delay for this when your spouse is not there.
Sometimes there is no logic or consideration for USCIS.
During the process, USCIS can squeeze the case whatever they want.

We may argue with them based on legal and other ground, but it will be time/money consuming tasks.

Golden lesson for USCIS experience for last 13 years is "better overprepared than hearing sorry!", and "Always looking at USCIS viewpoint than my own convenience viewpoint".

Edited by moonhunt, 17 March 2009 - 04:06 AM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-17 04:05:00
US Citizenship General Discussiondoes anyone know whats that interview all about during the N-400 process...


If you are o.k. with old format, you can check this posting for youtube video recording for sample interview.

http://www.visajourn...howtopic=150798

Unless you have extreme situation that USCIS adjudicator concerned such as marriage fraud, good moral character issue including drunken driving, or criminal history things like that,
you will be asked for N400 questions for confirmation.

If your case have something strange attached to your A# file,
they may check that, too.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-16 16:02:00
US Citizenship General Discussiondoes anyone know whats that interview all about during the N-400 process...
QUOTE (gyenigun @ Mar 16 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
does anyone know whats that interview all about during the N-400 process...? i am just curious that if it s just like the one they did during the conditional greencard process...like asking questions to your spouse and you ...or else...?

any idea...?


It is two parts.

First part is checking N400 application form for any update or change.
Adjudicator may ask further information regarding N400 application data if they feel boredom.

Second part is English/Civic/History questions, which has two format - old and new -.

So for first part, you may feel like same thing from AOS or Conditional greencard process.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-16 13:49:00
US Citizenship General Discussion2 additional passport pictures??
QUOTE (PaolaLew @ Mar 16 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the Naturalization Guide it says it is reccomended that you bring to the Interview 2 additional passport pictures but in the interview letter the pictures are not mentioned. Do I really need these pictures?


It is for just in case.
If your photos submitted doesn't meet the requirement per USCIS adjudicator's judgement,
USCIS adjudicator may ask another photos.
If this happens, and you don't have another set of photos to meet his/her expectation,
his/her decision may be delayed until you bring another set of photos to meet his/her expectation.

So it's up to you whether you can wait for delay by this "just in case" or not.


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-16 13:41:00
US Citizenship General Discussionfailure to file change address with DMV
I don't know much about the detail.

But from USCIS viewpoint, they want to have something to verify your current address to check the jurisdiction.
If you can not provide it, they may not be able to proceed the further.
Changing the address with DMV will not take that long.

Normally they can update the address and issue new driver license from the window.

Usually Driver License is the primary ID to check your legal address information.

Also, you may need to provide other utility bills and others to prove your residential address.

Especially when you move during the process, USCIS may want to verify your new address for their jurisdiction issue,
and may need to verify whether you live there for more than 90 days or not.

The other thing you may need to be aware is whether you file for AR-11 to report the change of your address.
All non-US-citizen is required to report their change of the address within 10 days.

It may be trivial, but it may work against your good moral character because you are not following the rule.

But it may be over-statement, but it will be varied from USCIS officer to officer.


moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-19 13:46:00
US Citizenship General Discussionjury duty
QUOTE (sakura888 @ Mar 18 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On my case, we used to live in NYC. During that time, I never felt the need for me to apply for a US driver's license though I have my own driver's license from my country of origin which I cannot use anymore after 60 days of my entry. In NYC, you dont really need to drive to get around, and parking is always a problem. So we only use cars when there is a need, and my husband who has his US driver's license used to drive for us whenever there is a need. But to my surprise, even though I have not applied for a US driver's license at the time, I was still called for a jury duty! So I guess it is not just the DMV's files, maybe they have other sources as well, like the social security or whatever.


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moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-19 13:59:00
US Citizenship General Discussionjury duty
I got a bunch of letters for Jury selection.
As it was mentioned, it is selected from mailing list from DMV, or Post office.

So when you receive it, you can just mark "Non-Citizen", and sent the proof of your ID showing you are NOT US Citizen.
That will be dropped from Jury selection process.

The way it is working from Court House is that they just send same thing to multiple times of the number of jury they needed.

Unless you were pretending US Citizen, you don't have to tell the details to USCIS adjudicator.
Just say "No" to the question.

Edited by moonhunt, 19 March 2009 - 01:55 PM.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-19 13:54:00
US Citizenship General DiscussionDivorce decree for N-400 interview
QUOTE (lucyrich @ Mar 19 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's going to be a huge issue. The divorce decree isn't critical for determining whether you're eligible for naturalization. Even if you never divorced and were still married, you'd be equally as eligible for naturalization.

Hypothetically, if you had re-married after the divorce and were applying for citizenship based on the marriage to the new spouse, then the divorce would be critical, because without a valid divorce, the validity of the new marriage would be in doubt. But that's not your case.

But as I said, I could be wrong. If I'm wrong and they really want to see an original which you don't have ready at the interview, they'll delay your approval and give you a chance to get the missing document. So if you're in a hurry and don't mind spending the money, you can order the document now, but if you want to save money and don't mind a (I suspect slim) chance of a delay, you can wait and see what they say at the interview.


From my experiece, and other people's story, USCIS requires "original" or "certified" divorce decree for multiple reasons.

1) checking marriage history, which is relevant to marriage-based case
2) Good moral character to see alimony and child support cases whether it has any issue or not

I saw the posting regarding 2), which USCIS officer gave hard time for divorce done from other country other than U.S.

OP said he have certified divorce decree, and sent N400 with the copy of certified divorce decree.
So as long as he carry the certified divorce decree for his interview, it will be fine.

moonhuntMaleSouth Korea2009-03-20 01:29:00