ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresgreen card validity
Basically, yes.

If your green card application (AOS or CR-I) is approved and you have been married for less than two years, the green card will be a conditional green card valid for 2 years. Starting 90 days before the expiry date on the green card you file an I-751 application to remove the conditions. The condition is that the card is valid for 2 years and that by the end of the 2 year time period you need to provide evidence that your marriage is a valid relationship and not in place for immigration purposes. The two years 'start' from the date of the green card, not the date of the marriage.

If you have been married for more than two year when the green card is approved, the green card will be 'unconditional' and valid for 10 years and there will be no need to file to remove conditions.

Edited by Kathryn41, 22 March 2008 - 09:50 AM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-03-22 09:49:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresUSCIS reply to NY times
He is only talking about the Naturalization applications as well - no mention of the many other hundreds of thousands of applications bogged down in the overloaded inefficient system. I do find it funny that he refers to "maintaining the integrity of the immigration system and the security of the process" - they certainly did maintain the existing record of integrity - which wasn't anything to brag about to begin with - can't fault him there. They certainly didn't improve it! I believe his resignation has more to do with the overwhelm he created for himself and his department from his failure to plan when they implemented last year's fee increases than the cited reasons. To suggest it is business as usual is one thing . . . to imply that business as usual is 'competent and effective' is something totally different than the reality.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-03-21 16:47:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresVSC Keywords Campaign
VSC's motto: "Your foreign spouse/fiance is worth waiting a lifetime for . . . so we're helping you wait!"
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-06-14 15:00:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresThis really pissed me off!!!
QUOTE (Dr. Nick @ Jun 7 2008, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Jun 7 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Dr. Nick @ Jun 7 2008, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whatever happened to freedom and basic things like living with your spouse?



Your points are well taken but the freedom you mention never existed, so nothing happened to it. We've always had immigration laws.


I meant freedom for those folks to go to the parties and meet whoever they want. Freedom to choose someone from another country without waiting an entire year to be united as well. I think we could all live with 3 months wait and go thru the processing etc., but what's happening at VSC is just not right or humane....I guess it's true that in the end we get used to anything..It's not like anybody outside of our small community cares either.


Actually, it is a small technicality, but you did/still do have the freedom to choose someone from another country without waiting an entire year to be united. Like the ones at the party, you also could have choosen to meet a foreigner who was already in the US. You "chose" to become involved with a foreigner who was not in the US. This is your freedom at choice. All choices, however, have consequences and it doesn't help to complain that the consequences of another's choice are easier than the consequences of your choice. Please don't condemn those who meet their significant foreign other while they are in the US and say it is unfair that they took advantage of that opportunity and you didn't have that opportunity. You did have the same opportunity, but you didn't take it; you chose to become involved with someone who doesn't live in the US. Both are valid choices. Now, you are going through the consequences of that choice - waiting for the paperwork to be processed so that your partner can move to the US. These individuals who are already here, have already gone through that process - they are here legally. If they meet someone and together they decide to have a life in the US, then there are more immigration hoops that they will have to jump through, just like there are more immigration hoops you and your partner will have to jump through.

It does no good to try and blame other couples for the flaws in the system. We were a K-1 couple and we were engaged 13 months because of the length of the process to come here. We met on line and yes, we discussed marriage before we had even met in person. Up until that time I had no interest and absolutely no intention of ever living in the US and am only here because of my husband. Because we chose to go the K-1 route it didn't mean that I loved my 'fiance' less because we weren't yet married. Marriage at a distance involves practical considerations as well as personal ones and we tried to allow for both within our relationship. I would not dare to presume that anyone involved in this process has a greater or lesser right than we did to have the immigration paperwork processed more quickly just because they were married instead of engaged! You suffer from separation regardless, and the system truly is heartless.

That is the real problem - not the couples who wait, not the couples who marry, not the couples who meet outside of the country, nor the couples who meet within the country. The system itself is flawed - broken - and we all suffer through its paroxyms of inefficiency. In a perfect world we would find our perfect partner and everything would fall perfectly into place at the perfect time. Until we have such a perfect world all we can do it is try to make our own little part of it as close to perfect as we can knowing that we won't succeed, hoping it will be enough - and try not worry that someone else who is doing something differently than we are are interfering with our own success.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-06-08 17:04:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresIf denied entry at POE, what happens to the CR-1?
QUOTE (D&G2007 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a Canadian citizen and I married a US citizen. In July'07, after our honeymoon, we were denied entry into the US because we had stated we were married, and they felt I did not have strong enough ties to Canada. We gave up for awhile, and in April '08, I made my second attempt to visit the country I'm supposed to immigrate to. Again, I was denied entry for the same reasons, and on top of that, they made me sign a Withdrawal of Application. The officer told me not to attempt to cross at any POE until our visa was approved or our CR-1 would be denied...It's BS!

We're both born and raised in our respective countries, neither of us has a criminal record, and our employment has always been steady - other than the fact that I took a break to figure out my next steps...I can't understand how the system can be so cruel! I'm tempted to try again, but am extremely fearful of the consequences. I am working, can get a letter if needed, have phone bills, credit card bills, etc. I'm just not sure if I will be pushing any buttons. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


In addition to visiting the Canada forum, please, seriously do NOT just go back to the border and try to cross again after this warning. The information is on file and it could have serious repercussions. If you really wish to visit, make an appointment at the US Consulate closest to you, request a Visitor's Visa for the specific amount of time you want to visit, making sure to bring all of your proof of your ties to Canada, go through the whole legal process that other foreigners have to go through. You have bee denied entry at the border as a Canadian and warned. now try to use the existing system to get you what you want - a visit with your husband. This way, you will either be approved for the visa by the Consulate and it will make your border crossing more likely to be successful (although the border guards can still turn you back with the visa) or they can deny you at the Consulate and you know not even to try. Applying for a Visitor's Visa and getting denied at the Consulate, or getting denied entry with the Visitor's visa will not have the same long-lasting, far-reaching consequences on your immigration visa as trying to cross again after being warned.

Remember to be honest about any denials, including signing the withdrawal, when you apply for the Visa. The last thing you want to happen is to be charged with misrepresentation - a guarantee to a denial and a ban to the US.

Good luck.

Edited by Kathryn41, 08 June 2008 - 05:16 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-06-08 17:14:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmy husband visa was denied
For everyone involved, stop the personal attacks, the personal comments and complaints about each other. Keep this thread on topic as a number of posters have suggested or it will be locked. Those of you who have personal issues with each other, keep them off of the public forums and find some private way to deal with them.

Edited by Kathryn41, 20 May 2009 - 03:03 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-20 15:03:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresis visit visa cancelled during IV interview
duplicate post moved from AOS and merged with existing topic
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-24 16:19:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresSomeone plz help me
Please use only English in the non-Regional forums. Your advice may be of help to others in similar situations but they need to be able to read what it says. Thanks!
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-24 22:37:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresHelp about NVC
moved from off-topic
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-23 21:48:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedureswhat is it with the philippines?
NOT back to bashing filipinas - or anyone.

This thread is being closed. It has run its course.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-06-21 09:52:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedureswhat is it with the philippines?
Personal attacks and insults are a violation of TOS. I have removed the offending posts along with the posts quoting those posts. Insults add nothing to the conversation and if anyone continues in this vein, this thread will be closed.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-06-21 09:29:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI came to the US with K1 visa and didn't go back. What do I need to do now?
Good luck to you as your work your way through this immigration maze.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-06-23 12:38:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI came to the US with K1 visa and didn't go back. What do I need to do now?
Someone coming to the US on a K-1 visa is only allowed to adjust status and remain in the US while married to their original petitioner. If they do not get married to the original petitioner they are not allowed to marry someone else, remain in the country and adjust status. If they marry someone else, they are required to leave the US and their new partner start the immigration process all over again.

You have no legal recourse to remain in the US, and because you have been here illegally for at least 2 years, you will have a 10 year ban on returning to the US when you leave.

You will need to leave the US, however, in order to return legally and live here with your wife. Your wife will need to petition for you to obtain a CR-1/IR-1 visa, then when you are denied for the visa at the Consulate, you would apply for a waiver of the 10 year ban on admissibility. It cannot be done from within the US. If you wish to live legally in the US you have no other recourses.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-06-22 16:48:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresOK SO CAN I STAY IN US OR DO I HAVE TO RETURN HOME
moved from DCF as OP appears to be considering spousal visa
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-07-11 10:05:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmarriage or wait 4 fiancee visa??
QUOTE (Corinthians @ Jul 11 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (txladykat @ Jul 11 2009, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
3. Wait to marry and file for fiance visa now. The downside to this is that after entering the US on the visa, you have 90 days to get married, then you file to adjust status, which takes a bit of time and more money. You can't work, get a driver license, Social Security card, etc. until that is done.

My advice would be option 2, if you can't do that, then option 1.

This is not true. K1 can work and get a social security number, drivers license etc. before AOS. We applied before we got married for a SSN with no problems. Once you have that, you can get ID etc. JFK stamped our I-94 with "authorized to work".

Double check everything you read on VJ.



Actually since there are new requirements with the most recent I-9 that employers have to use to verify the employability of anyone they hire, K-1s are no longer able to work prior to getting their AOS or EAD. They are work-authorized WITH permission from USCIS, however the I-9 now lists an EAD - the authorization stamp is no longer accepted. It is not possible, however, to apply for and receive an EAD before the I-94 expires - and any EAD issued prior to AOS will be based on the I-94 issued at entry. K-1 is work authorized in order to get a social security number since some States require a SSN before they will issue a marriage license; it is not work authorized so that the immigrant can work.

With many states recently passing new legislation trying to prevent issuing Driver's Licenses to illegal immigrants, many will only issue Driver's Licenses if you have an immigration document that is valid for at least 1 year, and the DL will be expire the same date as the immigrant document. That means that in many states it is no longer possible to get a driver's license before filing for AOS and obtaining eitheran EAD or green card as the I-94 is only valid for 90 days.

Edited by Kathryn41, 11 July 2009 - 08:39 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-07-11 20:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaNeed some advice about Divorce in Egypt
thread closed for review


After review this thread will remain closed for TOS violations.

The OP has stated her situation, received support and useful advice from the majority of the posters and there seems no reason to keep this thread open just so it can continue to go off track and allow for abusive comments. Further administrative action is also a possibility.

Edited by Kathryn41, 30 July 2010 - 04:16 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2010-07-30 15:36:00
Middle East and North Africaread that and tell me if u want me to conutny or to stop
The OP is pursuing a CR-1 visa (a K-3 actually, but it will become a CR-1) as he is married to an American citizen. Nevertheless, I am moving this to the MENA regional forum as it is probably a better venue for what this discussion appears to be about.
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Moderator Hat off . . .

Abdoulen, it is not clear what you are asking about. Are you saying your wife has photographs of another man in her home and you don't know who he is? Was she married before? Was she in a long term relationship before? How do you see these photographs- on webcam?

It sounds like you may need to talk with your wife and ask her these questions. They are obviously bothering you.

Edited by Kathryn41, 04 April 2011 - 07:23 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-04-04 19:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaTwo Religion Marriage
Thread moved from the Politics & Religion Discussion forum to the MENA Regional forum as a better location for the OP to receive the information he requests
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-05-02 19:20:00
Middle East and North Africawill this affect us????
I've moved this topic from the K-1 forum to the MENA Regional Forum as it doesn't relate to the K-1 visa process nor directly to the OP's CR-1 application (although it does affect it indirectly) but addresses a number of immigration concerns that members in this forum are more likely able to address.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-05-13 22:07:00
Middle East and North Africahelp plzzzzzzzz (K-1 but 'married' - Morocco)
thread closed for review

After review two additional posts containing inappropriate comments have been removed. This thread will remain closed.

Edited by Kathryn41, 19 June 2011 - 09:11 AM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-06-19 08:54:00
Middle East and North Africahelp plzzzzzzzz (K-1 but 'married' - Morocco)

** Topic Closed Pending Review **


After review I am re-opening this thread even though the discussion is probably at an end. While there are similarities with other cases and members there are no identified duplicate accounts posting in this thread.

For those who believe that they can 'get away' with filing a wrong visa and then lying about it to immigration in hopes that this will shorten their immigration wait, reality shows that the exact opposite happens. Instead of getting processed 'faster', those who try to short-cut the system and fail to correct the problems while they still have that opportunity because they don't want to 'lose the time' re-applying with the correct visa would take, actually find themselves having a much, much, much longer wait in the end. This couple is actually lucky - they only have a 10 year ban. It could have been for life. Not only is advocating immigration fraud a violation of TOS as well as a violation of immigration regulations - it is also obviously NOT in anyone's best interest, especially those hoping to live together as a married couple in the US.

Edited by Kathryn41, 16 June 2011 - 04:22 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-06-16 16:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaToday we lost a MENA jewel
That is so tragic. My heart goes out to her husband and family. Thank you Jackie for letting us know.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2008-06-18 10:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
One person - multiple attacks. Everything should be fine now.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-08-15 21:40:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
personal attacks and insults are a violation of TOS. Offending post has been removed.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-08-15 18:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
QUOTE (Ahmeds Girl @ May 5 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Kathryn41 @ May 4 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The title of this thread states it is for general chat for muslims or anyone interested in participating. The theme clearly states that this thread is for Muslim interests and that is the perspective of those who chose to participate. No where do I see that this thread invites challenges or discussion about the validity of Islam vs any other religion, nor do I get the impression from the majority of the thread participants that this is a direction they wish to pursue.

As a moderator I am suggesting that those who are interested in discussing the merits of one religious belief vs another - or none - start a separate thread to pursue that issue and leave the arguments off of this thread. I appreciate that the participants have been very patient during the preceding discussions, but believe they are right - this is not the thread for this type of discussion. Please do not continue it here. Start a new thread for that purpose if you wish to continue.



I disagree with you. I think that what you are suggesting is unfair censorship, as the points made related to the discussion.


There is a time and place for everything. This is neither the time nor the place. If you believe that is censorship, so be it. I have made my request politely. I expect you to respect it. It is not open for discussion.

Edited by Kathryn41, 05 May 2009 - 01:57 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-05 13:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaMuslims
The title of this thread states it is for general chat for muslims or anyone interested in participating. The theme clearly states that this thread is for Muslim interests and that is the perspective of those who chose to participate. No where do I see that this thread invites challenges or discussion about the validity of Islam vs any other religion, nor do I get the impression from the majority of the thread participants that this is a direction they wish to pursue.

As a moderator I am suggesting that those who are interested in discussing the merits of one religious belief vs another - or none - start a separate thread to pursue that issue and leave the arguments off of this thread. I appreciate that the participants have been very patient during the preceding discussions, but believe they are right - this is not the thread for this type of discussion. Please do not continue it here. Start a new thread for that purpose if you wish to continue.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2009-05-04 18:43:00
Middle East and North AfricaCombating the "yo mama don't live here" issue
A number of posts violating TOS have been removed along with a few quoting them. Administrative action has also been taken. Acceptable parts of removed posts are returned to the thread below.

1) How would I know that, one way or the other.
2) I don't presume anything about your living conditions. You posted in this thread quite clearly about your living conditions.
3) I don't presume to know anything about your financial situation. You posted it on this website.

Please refrain from throwing out threats. A simple "I don't agree with some of your advice (the same many others have pointed out as well) would have sufficed. Though it looks like I am the only one you chose to threaten.

Good luck


Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-08-22 07:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaAre you currently in Administrative Processing?
Post violating TOS has been removed.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2011-12-05 21:17:00
Middle East and North Africai have intrvew soon k3 visa can you tell me same information
If none here speaks Arabic, perhaps using Google Translate will help respond to mozmozll's question. It isn't the best but it might be enough. Here is his post translated from Arabic to English:

God willing, I have interview soon; I ask you to give me some tips! And give me some possible questions to be placed?
Do not forget the benefit of prayer


He is apparently the recipient of a K-3 petition and appears to be seeking help in understanding what to expect at the interview and what questions he might be asked.

Here is a direct link to Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-02-12 16:57:00
Middle East and North AfricaDO they deport me if my fiance leave me in US?
I am moving this thread to the Middle East North Africa regional forum so that Arum22 can post questions in his native language instead of English if he chooses. Hopefully there will be others who will be able to assist him with his questions and provide him with useful answers.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-05-25 20:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaDO they deport me if my fiance leave me in US?
One member has been thread-banned and two more inappropriate comments have been removed.

In response to the other comments, we have an individual who is not very fluent in English, knows virtually nothing about the immigration programme and equally little about how internet forums work, especially Visa Journey, and is trying to wade through cultural differences.

His scenario, from what I can see, is he is involved with an American woman. They met recently in person. They had a 'religious' ceremony that was not official, nor was it registered in any way, in some sort of a church (not Muslim) as a means to obtain 'permission' for having a sexual relationship - something that is not part of many cultures until after marriage. This marriage is not a legal marriage, rather one that makes them feel that there is enough legitimacy to their relationship that it can be pursued. The OP himself is confused about what this means - does this make his girlfriend his wife, or his she is fiancee because they plan on having a legal marriage to make them husband and wife?

Yes, the OP would like to come to the US, but he has asked his American partner to move to his country as well, where he is well off and knows where 'what is what'. She doesn't want to, so she is sponsoring him on a fiancee visa. When and where she applied is unclear and we have no timeline.

Perhaps the OP isn't what he claims to be - but we do not have the right to go after another member, especially one who is not conversant in our language, our customs, our culture and our processes - because he is not conversant in our language our customs, our culture and our processes. If you doubt his posts,then don't respond. Do not treat the immigration forums like an Off Topic free for all. This violates both the intention and the spirit of Visa Journey.. If you have to 'give the benefit of the doubt' in order to respond, then do so. It costs you nothing to be helpful to another, and if he turns out to be someone other than what he claims, it has still cost you nothing to respond with respect and courtesy.

Imagine that you are a stranger in a strange land trying to find out information that you believe you need. You may not know what questions to ask, so you ask a lot of different questions. You may make mistakes or have misunderstadings about certain situations, so you seek clarification. You may use the wrong words in this language with which you are not very familiar. Would you appreciate someone responding to your inquiries the way so many of you have just responded here? Would you wanted to be treated this way? You act this like a game because you have your expectations of what a legitimate poster is like and the OP doesn't fit your mold. Because he doesn't match what you believe he should be, you have decided that there is something flawed or false about his situation without trying to make allowances for the language, and culture, and technological differences and limitations.

Yes, it would help to have those fact and details, but you don't. Because you don't, you do not have enough information to negate the very real influences of language, culture and technological sophistication.

So, my warning is repeated. If you cannot respond with courtesy and politeness, answering the questions or asking for clarification without resorting to the pack mentality of 'ganging up' on someone who is different than you, then don't post in his threads.

Edited by Kathryn41, 25 May 2012 - 12:32 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-05-25 12:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaDO they deport me if my fiance leave me in US?
Please stop with the inappropriate and judgmental comments. Several inappropriate comments have been removed. Just because an individual is not fluent in English and makes errors in what he asks or how he asks does not give you the right to assume he is other than an honest applicant seeking information. If his motives turn out to be less than honourable, it is not your call to make; The US Consulate and USCIS are quite capable of doing that job and they will be in possession of far more facts and evidence that you will. Any further inappropriate or 'off topic' type of comments will result in their poster being thread banned from further participation.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-05-25 09:32:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
One post containing inappropriate comments has been removed. Comments promoting stereotyping and intolerance are not acceptable.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-04-16 10:42:00
Middle East and North AfricaRe: Removed popular thread
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have removed a currently popular thread from public view. There was a great deal of sensitive personal information - some of it obtained from private and not public conversations - released that put the original poster at great risk from its publication. While much of the advice offered was good, there also appeared to be a tendency to forget that this is an individual with personal feelings and concerns, and her situation was discussed as if it were the 'hottest' soap opera on TV. While it may feel exciting or important to participate in such a popular topic, it can also hurt the original poster when her very real heartache and concerns are treated like the 'soup de jour'.

So, please be much more circumspect in the personal information you release about yourself,and remember that it is a violation of the Terms of Service for Visa Journey for anyone to release information about another member received through non-posted private conversations without the express permission of the other individual to do so.

While everyone's heart appeared to be in the right place, there was not much concern given for the safety of the original poster, especially if certain individuals read the thread and acted upon its information to prevent the OP from protecting herself.

Edited by Kathryn41, 15 June 2012 - 11:58 AM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-06-15 11:54:00
Middle East and North Africaneed help pls- visa CR1
Please do not post personal emails, addresses or other personal information in the forums.Visa Journey is not a private site and you don't have to be a member to read the forums. Anyone can cause you all sorts of grief if they access your personal information from your post. The Visa Journey PM (send a message) option is easy to use and private. Please use the PM function to share any private information with another member.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-06-16 12:00:00
Middle East and North Africai want ask anyone ?

???? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?? ????? ??????? ?? ?? ????? ???????
???? ???? ???? ????


Please use English only in the Immigration related forums and restrict other languages to the Regional forums only.

Google Translate (a poor translator!) provides this translation:

Chta precious, as you know that Algeria is a Muslim country means that when the marriage ceremony Cisilon for foreign spouse is it converted to Islam
God is easy for you my sister

(Simple translation: Yes, that is required to get married in Algeria)

Edited by Kathryn41, 16 May 2012 - 08:40 PM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-05-16 20:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaURGENT HELP NEEDED in Egypt
As the organization checks out to be a legitimate non-profit organization dedicated to trying to find new home for Egyptian Mau cats, and the OP receives no sort of material or financial benefit from posting the information but is a supporter herself of their good work, it is fine for her to bring this information to members' attention.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-09-17 19:09:00
Middle East and North Africaage differience urgent help plz
Several pages of posts completely derailing this thread and taking it completely off topic have been removed. Any further posts which do not address themselves specifically to the OPs question and situation will result in thread bans for the posters.
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-09-13 19:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaLesson Well Learned

But I don't understand why she warned me and not warm the others who offended me first after talking about how my interview went and Sshiitt started to come out from some VJ members?
Didn't she anything but my post?
isn't That's odd.


Zagray, please read over the Terms of Service for Visa Journey. http://www.visajourn...m/content/terms A few members warned you that your comments were inappropriate, and instead of listening to their advice, you became defensive. You then made comments that included personal attacks on another member and another that was offensive and misogynist (you can look up the word online), both of which violate the Terms of Service (TOS) for Visa Journey.

There is a difference between speaking your truth so that people can hear what you have to say, and speaking your truth offensively so people react negatively to what you are saying - or how they interpret what you are saying. It is a good thing to be honest, but you also have to take responsibility for your words and the reactions they cause. When you claim that you are completely honest, and then become upset when others who are equally honest with you about your 'honesty', well, you can't have it both ways. You don't need to 'sugar coat' things, but there is always a way to speak your truth without becoming insulting or offensive. Many people claim they are just being honest with their comments when in fact they are really just being lazy- too lazy to bother to take the time to work out how to say what they need to say without hurting or attacking or offending someone else in the process.

Please take the time to 'think' about what impact your words might have when you write them - and change them if the impact is not appropriate. I understand you mean some of your comments in a humourous way, but humour that insults another person or group of people isn't a good form of humour and is something you should avoid. Please remember that this website includes men and women from all around the world as members and chose your words more wisely.

Edited by Kathryn41, 26 September 2012 - 10:06 AM.

Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-09-26 10:04:00
Middle East and North AfricaLesson Well Learned

And you are?????


A member of the Moderation Team appointed by Site Administration to ensure that the Terms of Service by which you agreed to abide when you became a member are observed.

Kathryn
Lead Moderator,
Visa Journey Moderation Team
Kathryn41FemaleCanada2012-09-26 09:32:00