ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Middle East and North Africapast relationships?
I'm not from this forum; but........

I was dating someone else when I met my husband. So, yes, he knows about that guy. And, I have an ex-husband and children, so not only does he know about him, he sees him quite regularly. Otherwise, if we run into someone one or they call or e-mail or something, I talk about it. Otherwise, no, we don't just chat about any ex'es. It's kind of a need-to-know basis.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-11-15 15:14:00
Middle East and North AfricaThings your husband/fiance does that drives you crazy.
He will shed clothes and shoes as he walks through the house to the bed after working overnight. Drives me crazy to trip over clothes and shoes when I get up.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-10-26 09:05:00
Middle East and North AfricaAttention Fiance fraud
QUOTE (beckypua @ Sep 14 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Happens a LOT both ways in this day of hitech. Guys scamming woman and woman scamming guys to get to the US.
You can't blame some of them living in third world countries trying to better their families and their lives.
You just have to be aware it's happening more and more and proceed with caution.

Quote WC Fields!
"Sucker born every minute"
That was a long time ago and it's probably up to 20 suckers a minute by now!



I've seen it over and over again. Regardless of their motives, it is wrong to use people like that. Shame on them.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-09-17 14:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaEveryone can you add your imput here....Please
Passport size photos?
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-12-04 16:13:00
Middle East and North Africaalgerian american citizen married to algerian citizen
QUOTE (Visa in hand! @ Dec 7 2007, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love this! The attitude "I am of the same culture, so only my relationship is real". This is the US, have you looked around lately? We are a nation of multi culture in every way, including marriages. My ex, for example, american married to an american. He sits on his lazy a$$ at home while she works 2 jobs. Using is nothing to do with a specific culture, it is of a specifc personality. Why is this so important for you to point this out to us anyway? I suspect you hold some sort of grudge against american women, not that you want to help them. You have real issues.



The funny thing about when I read something like this is that I see it all the time when Jamaicans are speaking badly about American/Jamaican marriages and visas. I swear, word for word, I have heard the same things as the thread starter stated in that linked thread. Is this common with all countries I wonder.

I have to agree with the above post. You have said exactly what I have wanted to tell every one of those naysayers too.

Absolutely nothing is guarenteed in this world.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-12-07 14:19:00
Middle East and North AfricaFreezing Friday!!
QUOTE (Aymerlu @ Jan 4 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good morning everyone! I guess we finally sent the cold weather somewhere else because today it's supposed to be a whooping 40 degrees! Bring out the tank tops! It's a heatwave!

I found out yesterday that the dudes at the Nissan dealers are IDIOTS!!!! I got my car back in June and had my last oil change in October. Well, when the weather was super cold, my wiper fluid wouldn't work! I'm had a few cars and this has never happened with my other cars. So I called a friend that works there. He tells me that supposedly someone was putting the wrong type of washer fluid in cars....yeah the type that will freeze. So.....the pump thingy in my car blew up....and yeah....they "think" I'm paying for another one! HA HA! They don't know me well do they? So I get to go argue with the manager today so I can get me a new pump thingy. DORKS! I think I need to go back to changing the oil and car fluids myself.



Hang in there......60's tomorrow.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-04 08:54:00
Middle East and North AfricaFactors i've noticed about issuing visas in MENA
Interesting observations. T

he only thing I've really learned is that once you think you figured out the flow of the process, they go and change things completely.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-04 09:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaVISA APPROVED!!!!!!!!! GREAT AGE DIFFERENCE
We had 12. they didn't ask anythign in regards to age.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-11 12:25:00
Middle East and North AfricaVISA APPROVED!!!!!!!!! GREAT AGE DIFFERENCE
Very sweet.

Congrats.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-11 11:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaNot Sure-Advice please
QUOTE (ashandran77 @ Jan 14 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know about the K1 but I have reasons for wanting to get married when I go.



Ideaology is wonderful; but keep in mind, you already know marrying in Egypt is going to cause all kinds of hurdles for you. I urge you to read anything and everything you can about this subject before you make some "romantic" decision. You may get the wedding you are dreaming of, only to find yourself stuck in some kind of immigration hell. This process is so difficult as it is.

Please, at least search for any post anywhere on the net that you can find on this very subject, think it out long and hard, and then make your decisions.

I wish you the very best of luck in whatever you end up doing.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-15 10:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaUm I brought back a souvenir from Algeria
QUOTE (Badrs Love @ Jan 14 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congratulations! A child is a blessing no matter the age of the mother. Everything will work out.


I agree. It's just what I was thinking.

Congrats.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-14 16:54:00
Middle East and North AfricaBaby is ok.. me another story
I think it is a bad day for everyone today.

Just hang in there.....hugs to you!!!!
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-23 15:28:00
Middle East and North AfricaIn case Anyone Is interested
Wow, that seems like a whole lot of hoops to jump through!

I feel sorry for Muslim women wanting to marry non-Muslim men.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-22 10:23:00
Middle East and North Africahi there , we r new in here :-)
I just wanted to wish you luck.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-25 14:28:00
Middle East and North AfricaOff Topic - VERY hard decision to make
I had my last dog for 14 years. When I found her, in our backyard, she was beaten and underfed, and hiding out. After she healed, she was the best dog I could have ever hoped for. when he time came, I knew it was the right thing to do. She was in so much pain and I never wanted that for her.

I feel if you questioning, they you aren't so sure it is right at this time. Look at it through her eyes, not yours. It's not about what you feel or can take.........what is she feeling and how much more can she take? You certainly don't want her to suffer.

I'm so sorry for you.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-28 14:28:00
Middle East and North Africai need some comfort MENA
Hang in there. Your time will soon come.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-30 09:11:00
Middle East and North AfricaBeing Kind over being right
I believe in being kind about the things I think are right. If I disagree with someone, I will make my point as nicely as I can. If I can't agree, I may talk to them in a PM or just walk away.

There really is no point in tearing people up. It solves nothing.

That being said, there are those on this site who seem to intentionally poke at anything you say. If any of those people see me step away, you'll know what I think.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-01-25 21:00:00
Middle East and North AfricaSunday- It's Superbowl!!
What a great last 5 minutes of any game I think I've ever seen.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-04 08:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaSunday- It's Superbowl!!
QUOTE (bridget @ Feb 3 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



Wonder how many girlfriends and ex-girlfriends he had attending the game?
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-04 08:53:00
Middle East and North Africawhat would you do?
If I see know something, I say it. The person I warn can do whatever they want with that knowledge.

I'd want to be warned if someone knew something I should be told.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-04 08:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaAddress- Street and City (no numbers) or Mailbox??
In my experience with Jamaica, we put

His name
White House
White Sands P.O.
St. James
Montego Bay, Jamaica

Put exactly what you would put if you mailed him something. Foreign embassies are used to it.

If he has a different mailing address then his home address and he won't get his mail unless you use it, you should definately put it down. Later in the process, he will get mail sent to him and they need to be able to find him.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-05 20:41:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
QUOTE (Nutty @ Feb 7 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moody @ Feb 7 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh oh not this again! blink.gif

Any woman who is insecure will talk about their "noble" attributes and talk down about women they're "jealous" of. Doesn't matter where they come from.

QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Feb 7 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Nutty @ Feb 7 2008, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a form a jealously that these North African women display...
They think of all the negative stereo types of "western women" and compare that to their own perceived "noble qualities."

Really, displays the smallness of their minds.

However, that being said....there are still some scoundrels out their who do prey on lonely western women.


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This topic was started because of a post by Wahrania in regards to North African women discussing marrying americans, but then dumping them to marry Morrocan females. And how sometimes these Morrocan women seem PERPLEXED when the Morrocan men stay with their American wives and do not get a Morrocan wife.

Have you ever lived for any real length of time in a non-western culture?


I'm pretty sure if you go back and reread some of Wahrania's posts, you will see that she has. Is that what you were asking?


Any woman who is insecure will talk about their "noble" attributes and talk down about women they're "jealous" of. Doesn't matter where they come from.


That above statement is no lie. I've had first hand experience. Though, not from the middle east.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-07 15:46:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Feb 7 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wacko.gif

Now about this biscuit mix. Do you add just eggs and water?



I have tried that mix. It's a god substitute; but nothing seems to beat actually eating them hot out of the oven in a Red Lobster restaurant.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-07 15:44:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
Damn you all.......I wish my Sonic was on the way home from the bank and not on the way to the bank. I can't make it to the bank before close if I stop at Sonic.

Wonder if I can leave work just a little early..................
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-07 14:34:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
QUOTE (wahrania @ Feb 6 2008, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Feb 6 2008, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (bridget @ Feb 6 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Feb 6 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ganja_Girl @ Feb 6 2008, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I would help him with a green card, but being married already might slow things down, but how could I not help a young man get his green card. wacko.gif



Yeah,but what if he's crosseyed and had brown teeth ?


Who the heck's looking at his face? laughing.gif


OMG you girls are sooo bad....I knew there was a reason I like you all!

if you ever dated a hot guy with really really bad teeth, you would change your mind



Looks only get you so far.

With my luck, his personality would be all whack! He would turn out to be some screaming, temper tantrum throwing, foul mouth, bi-polar, spit while he talks, fool.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-07 10:44:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Feb 6 2008, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Jenn! @ Feb 6 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Come on you guys, you know that kind of stuff just makes the flaming worse.

we need a bookie. want the job?



You are so evil!!!

I'm betting in my mind; but I'm not sharing.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 09:48:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
I think it is always a good idea to talk about the good and bad of international marriages. Everyone, regardless of their expertise in the area, has experiences, opinions, and sometimes rumors to share. I never think it is a bad idea to forwarn those who come after all of us of the possibilities that exist.

I have taken many bashings for negative experiences I have aired publically. (If you want proof, look back at some of my old posts!) I will never apologize for saying what I've said. The words and warnings were and are relevant and since they are my very own experiences, I don't give a flying @$%* what anyone else has to say about them. I am entitled to my opinion.

That being said, I believe in the goodness, honesty, and respect of my husband. I would go through it all over again for him and I have no doubts about our relationship.

Generalization and steretypes are one thing, experiences are another.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 09:04:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
QUOTE (wahrania @ Feb 4 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (morocco4ever @ Feb 4 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (wahrania @ Feb 4 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Aymerlu @ Feb 4 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the sad thing is there's a woman somewhere that will go with this BS!

I actually found this post on a berber forum. i read it , read it again and was kind of shocked to see it in writing

but let me tell you a flip side. I actually know of one moroccan guy who married for papers, got his american wife pregnant and had a moroccan girlfriend on the side from back home. The moroccan guy decided he loved the "fat american" and decided to stay with her much to the furor of the moroccan girl.

I posted this post because I thought it gave a little insight into the perception of American women by SOME not all Moroccan women and how they view cross cultural marriages. The weirdness comes into play when the "man" does NOT leave the '"greencard" after he gets his papers. Then it becomes a guessing game for the "native" girls as to why he stayed the course with the "greencard".

Its perplexing to some North Africans when the SO stays with the person who sponsored them and does NOT return home and marry one of their own. Love really does rule sometimes, yes... and when it does its confusing often to those who thought they knew the score.....


I can't imagine being married to a man such as this. I don't care if he decided later that he loved me and chose to stay with me. The fact is that his morality is low enough that he would use a woman for a green card with the intent of breaking her heart in the end. A man like that is dispicable in my eyes.

I imagine that the majority of women here that were initially approached by her SO was already aware of the fact that he may only want a green card. I certainly didn't give my husband a chance to win my heart until I was sure that his intentions were sincere.

There are usually signs to this, and the smart women will watch for those signs. One of the prime examples was the man not wanting to take his wife back to visit Morocco. To be seen in public with her.

The thing is that it comes from all cultures, even here in the US. And it isn't just the old fat women that are the victims. It is any one that is lacking in self confidence. I have known some beautiful women that didn't have self confidence that was used and manipulated by men. Imagine her confidence level after that!

But not every relationship is for a green card, and I have seen my share of true love with several members of this forum. And I am 100% sure that when they deny petitions such as ours it is because they don't believe the relationship is real and they know that the ones that aren't will never make it through the process. In fact, when of the CO's in Morocco stated that "You would be surprised at the amount of returned petititions that don't come back to us".

Anyone who doesn't believe this happens is truly diluting the truth.

I have seen men using their wives take them back to the home country. thats no reassurance of anything. The woman that I talked about before went their several times. If everyone is in the know that she is just his ticket out, they will play the game.


I am pregnant with my husbands baby and I can guarantee you that several of his family members are NOT happy because our marriage in their eyes was for his papers and for him to better his life. In fact, I believe this wholeheartedly and i am NOT UGLY or looks deprived but i know enough about my husbands culture to know the score. when a girl who is pretty and 26 and divorced cannot find a man to marry her because everyone wants a virgin with no kids, how can I NOT have it in the back of my mind that as a divorced woman with kids, that I am second choice and second best and the beauty mark that I have is my us passport.

and I am pregnant guys... and even I have to accept reality. Walking you around is not proof of a damn thing. How is heart feels and how is family deals with you is a much stronger indicator.

Arabs want kids. They want wives who can give them kids. But even I PReGNANT with his baby have major doubts about his family s perception and eventual acceptance of me and my baby. I know all of this sounds harsh but this is NOT AmericAN society.

We are talking about a society where unwed mothers put their babies in orphanages and where virginity is really a premium. Whether you want to face it or not, you need to look how women are treated in terms of how they are looked at in the usa. In the usa you can reinvent yourself if you sleep around,,,,, there... absolutely NO. The rules are completely different than here. Its been a heartbreaking reality for me to accept,,,,, but I have had to and after 8 years around north africans, I have had to swallow alot of my feelings and deal with strictly reality.... Looks and age matter....some to more and less to others... There is NO guarantee that the man will stay with you in the long run



I realize this is your reality and I would never bash you for any of it. If I felt even a smidgeon like any of this, I would not have married my husband.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 08:45:00
Middle East and North Africafrom a moroccan forum discussing white marriage or marriage for papers
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I get so tired of hearing people say all cross cultural marriages are for green cards only.

It happens. Sure, it does. But, it isn't fair to label all just because of some.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-04 16:29:00
Middle East and North AfricaSUPER DUPER HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MISS JACKIE!
What are you doing for your birthday besides hanging with us?
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-05 20:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaSUPER DUPER HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MISS JACKIE!
Happy Birthday, Jackie girl!
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-05 08:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaDevasted
Whatever it is, I'm sorry for you. Please know not everyone is the US is as terrible as what you must've experienced.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-05 14:24:00
Middle East and North Africafinally broke the news to my SO
QUOTE (raymaga @ Feb 6 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can take it or leave it, but it's so good for you!!!



Ray....they are now making fun of you too!
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 12:57:00
Middle East and North Africafinally broke the news to my SO
Well, in the JG dictionary, I love MY VERSION of cous cous!

I am surrounded by a bunch of smart a$$e$!!!!!
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 12:48:00
Middle East and North Africafinally broke the news to my SO
Oh, I love that stuff.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-06 12:35:00
Middle East and North Africatrying to stay positive but I am kind of not there
Please don't stress so much on the drugs you must take to breath right now. You MUST breath or you won't do either of you any good. I had chicken pox in the first trimester with my last child. People, the internet, books.....all told me horror stories about clubbed feet. At that point, there wasn't a damn thing I could do about having the pox. Everything turned out fine. She is perfect.

The rest of the stuff.....again, there is little you can do about it at this point. You can't go back and say "what if" cause you can't change where you are today. Forward is the only way to go.

Start looking at the good in your life and you will see it does outweigh the bad!
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-13 11:52:00
Middle East and North AfricaUS orders massive recall of beef !!!!!!!!
If you read all the stories and watch all the news videos....well, I found this one to be blown way out of proportion. I don't agree with the treatment of the animals, nor the oversight of the plants at not following proper procedures, but the recall, after the fact that most of the beef has been eaten months ago.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-19 10:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaI must have fell and bumped my head :crying:
We did the K-1 route. I don't regret having gone that way one bit. If I were doing it now, knowing all I know about the procedure, I would still file the K-1.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-19 11:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaWHO PAYS FOR ALL THE PLANE TICKETS

Just a quick question for all the American women, did you pay for your plane ticket over to see your love, or did he pay for you? I understand they are from poor countries, but I am not that rich either, and not a sugar mama. Just really interested, because I have a husband in Egypt, whom I never talked to, but I paid for the plane ticket to see him and now i am paying all of this off working myself to an early grave. I guess I am a little old fashion and would like the man to take care of some of this, but maybe that is not the way things work. So please share with me who pays for what and did you feel kinda of mad if you have to pay all the bills, is it almost like buying a husband. That is how i feel now.



He paid what he could while he was there and working full-time. I paid the remainder while working a full and part-time job. Now, he works here full-time and is helping me dig out of the hole we are in.

If it is truly a relationship and has long term potential, then what is the difference who paid what? It's all about sharing everything. Sometimes one person pays the lion's share. But, what comes around goes around and in the end, it all works out.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2007-07-03 13:15:00
Middle East and North Africaholocaust denial in mena
QUOTE (MrsAmera @ Feb 23 2008, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My husband "knew" about it but not in depth. I would encourage each of you to bring your spouses to Washington DC to the National Holocaust Museum. They will really be shocked and I've found at least with my spouse a small sense of compassion, but also confusion as to how now Jews could treat the Palestinians so badly after they themselves were mistreated. It's a question I often struggle with as well.



Absolutely.

My husband had never heard of the Holocaust until we went through the museum in D.C. last year. We spent hours in there. He's still talking about it.
*JG*FemaleJamaica2008-02-23 15:43:00