Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Mexico, Latin & South America	Presentandose despues d 5 meses hola!	QUOTE (GueraYTavo @ Apr 7 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Je je utilizas las mismas expresiones que mi sra. esposa ella tambien habla ingles y espanol casi a la perfeccion. Estoy de acuerdo contigo, la genta ya no va a cambiar y que tristeza por eso el mundo esta como esta. Ya lo dice por ahi, "el hombre es el unico animal que comete el mismo error 2 veces", el holocausto ya no lo recuerdan? no es la misma magnitud pero te imaginarias que despues de eso ya no existirian los sentimientos tan enraizados como los que encontramos en estos dias. Finalmente, tambien pienso que este sentimiento se va a acabar, no olvidemos que los judios, negros, italianos e irlandeses sufrieron ese mismo trato de parte de los "nativos" de este pais porque no los consideraban de raza blanca y/o nativos. Esos estigmas ya casi no existen, no en su totalidad. Hacia los afro-americanos por ser tan diferentes en su apariencia aun persisten en cierta magnitud pero en cuanto a los judios, italianos e irlandeses casi nadie en estos dias los critica por ser de otra decendencia. Estoy leyendo el libro HisPanic: Why Americans Fear Hispanics In The US escrito por Geraldo Rivera y el escribe que en el primera parte del sigo veinte, los Mexicanos estaba considerados "blanco" por el US Census y no habia muchas problemas que vemos hoy hasta cambio a "Hispanic" - yo no creo que no habia no problemas en el pasada, pero la verdad es que la situacion es peor con los hispanos que antes. No se si es porque hay tantos ahora o que... Mi madre tiene su MA de la universidad en historia americana con un concentracion de estudios inmigraciones y me dijo que cuando cantidades grandes de italianos empezaban a llegal en los EEUU, establezo cuotas por paises, dictando cuantos personas de cada pais podria venir cada anio. Los inmigrantes de Europa norte tenia tendencia a hablar la misma lengua, a parecer a los americanos, a comer comida similar, et cetera. Pero los italianos tenia tendencia a tener piel mas oscuro, a hablar una lengua diferente, a comer comida muy diferente (mucho ajo, et cetera). Lo que es diferente da miedo a la gente, esto es verdad, y que vemos hoy con los hispanos sigue la misma tendencias que vimos en el pasado. Pero todavia no es justo, y yo espero que cuando nacieren mis hijos, no van a lidiar con el odio y el racismo que vemos hoy. No es una mentira que hemos hecho avances. 2007 estaba el aniversario cuarenta de la legalizacion de los matrmonios entre razas. Si mi esposo y yo encontramos 40 anios atras, no estaria legal a casarnos. Me hace triste, pero el hecho que es legal hoy me da esperanza por el futuro. Que los pasos pequenos vaya a construir un futuro mejor.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-04-07 12:21:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Presentandose despues d 5 meses hola!	Estoy de acuerdo totalmente. Hay mucho racismo contra todas las razas que no son blancos, pero con los latinos, es peor que antes. Porque hay mucha gente indocumentada, todos los latinos sufren de suposiciones y ideas equivicados (por ejemplo, cuando una persona ve una mujer o hombre blanco, no supone que es indocumentado, pero la gente siempre me pregunto "es tu esposo legal?" SI PENDEJOS!) . Ademas, no creo que la gente que viene aca quieren irse de su familia, de su vida, pero hay razones legitimos que vienen aca. Mi esposo estaba indocumentado (pero llego aca con un visa, pero quedo aca mas que su I-94 permitio) por razones no podia controlar. Su padre murio, y cuando hay cosas que necesita atencion, no hay una permision especial por quedar. Aplique por una extension pero no lo recibio, y a veces todo no es facil por terminar - su padre murio en un accidente, y todavia hay cuestiones legales que no han resueltos. Al fin, creo que todos son humanos que necesitan respeto. De una americana, esto no es una opinion muy popular, pero no me importa. No es justo a tachar a la gente como 'legal' or 'illegal' o 'documentado' o 'indocumentado' - somos gente, y no somos pedazos de carne o algo asi. Mi madre es un experto de inmigracion Americana, y habia fronteras abiertas por anios hasta llegaban los italianos, quienes no parecen como "los americanos" y hablaban un idioma diferentisimo y comieron comida raro, y los EEUU entonces desarrollo una sistema de cuotas, y todo eso. Esto tipo de tratimiento esta un nuestra historia, y pensaria que aprendemos, pero parece que es el opuesto. Estamos un pais de inmigrantes, y especialmente con los latinos hay mucho oposicion a los inmigrantes ahora. Pero si digas (dices? lo siento espanol es mi segunda lengua) algo en estos foros, la gente racista dicen que la gente a quien hacen dueno con sus palabras estan demasiado sensibles y delicados. No, cuando una camioneta llenado con jovenes gritan a mi esposo "SPIC!" no estamos estando demasiado sensibles. Ya pues, mi abuelo vino aca por una vida mejor. Legal o ilegal, ni una persona es mejor que la otra. Hay problemas cuando uno no tiene documentos, pero creo que es una sintoma del sistema, y no la persona. Es verdad que yo soy gringa, pero en los tres anios que han pasado, estoy mas comoda con la gente latina. Asi que yo participo casi exclusivamente en el foro latino aca. No me enojo a comentarios racistas y ignorantes porque no hay. Me da paz.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-04-05 12:55:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Footwear at home	QUOTE (Ranie and Glen @ Jul 21 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi All, I am not a Brazilian but I am now having a Brazilian guest in our home. He wears his shoes and sandals all the time inside the house. Is that what most Brazilians do back home? I just don't get used to seeing it. Cheers! My husband and I do it...and my mother-in-law...and most people I know. I'm American and they are Peruvian.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-07-22 18:39:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Translator websites	QUOTE (GabachaYucateca @ Mar 28 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't imagine using a translator to speak with Homeboy! Interesting that this topic came up...I just recently finished an article on how crappy machine translations are! Me neither! We both speak English and I'm pretty proficient in Spanish, and sometimes we talk to his sister online. One time she was copying and pasting weird stuff in English like "you are (is) pretty" and we're like, Diana, what site are you using! It's so obvious and not only that, but it hinders understanding just as much as it helps.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-28 19:13:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	COLOMBIANOS EN VISA K1	A suggestion that I make to you is to use a "traductor" such as Google to translate English into Spanish and vice versa. They are not perfect but you can get a general sense of what is being said and discussed. Just "Cut & Paste" the words into Google and VOILA....English to Spanish!! Occasionally they can give a general sense of what is being discussed. Many, many times they mutilate what is said to a point beyond comprehension, though, and that leads to more frustration.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-07-17 14:09:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Let's Get Great in 2008	sparkpeople.com I've been doing this starting this week and it helps so much because it develops meal plans for you (you can substitute foods though) and you know exactly what is in every food. You can track your exercise too, and you set goals - and the more you participate in the site the more "points" you get - and for different levels reached you get a "trophy". It's really helpful, and they set up teams for when you join so you can get other people's insight. So far I've been doing really well! I'm down 8 pounds from July anyway, but I'm hoping to lose another 33!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-01-17 08:12:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Fuera de Lugar!!!!	QUOTE (shadtov @ Jun 8 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gracias! Athena--pq tienes que dejar a tu esposo por dos meses? Todos nosotros sabemos lo que es estar lejos de nuestros seres queridos por cosas de imigracion, pero sigue siendo dificil. no creo que es posible acostumbrarte de eso. Espero que para ti te pasen muy rapidos los meses. porque estamos mudandonos a Nueva York (de Florida) y yo tengo que ir primero y encontrar trabajo...despues de encontrar trabajo, el va a venir a NY y buscar trabajo, asi que puedamos pagar todos los billetes... y el tiene que vender todos los muebles et cetera. estabamos lejos al principio de nuestra relacion pero es tan dificil y estamos juntos en la misma casita hace dos anios ya asi que estoy poco triste	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-06-09 07:48:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Fuera de Lugar!!!!	tengo tantas cosas que botar y embalar (en el carro!) antes de mudarme a Nueva York. Alguien quiere ayudarme? Quiero regresar a mi estado nativo perooooooo no quiero estar lejos de mi esposo por dos meses.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-06-07 08:31:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	k-1 Central America	QUOTE (Skyler @ Jul 15 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Jul 15 2008, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hola Great idea on creating this thread! You are right, there aren't very many active Central american VJers around here. IMO, we should keep this thread in english AND spanish, as that might be the reason why many foreign fiances do not post. And also, one of the purposes of the regional forums, is that people can post in their native language. Así que bienvenidos TODOS los que quieran unirse a este post en español o inglés Keep in touch! Estoy de acuerdo, debemos tener el derecho a post en los dos idiomas, porque es el thread de america central, y no todos hablan ingles. I agree, we should have the right to post in both languages, because this is a central american thread and not everyone speaks english. Cheers!!! estoy de acuerdo; me asombra que la gente quieren sofocar el espanol cuando los inmigrantes no estan en los EEUU ya. En muchas instancias el prometido extranjero tiene que perder la mayoria de su cultura, lenguaje, todo - y no podemos ayudarlos en el lenguaje que entienden!? estoy feliz a ayudar a los extranjeros en espanol. hay todo VJ para "english-only".	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-07-15 12:17:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	k-1 Central America	QUOTE (sinpisto @ Jul 14 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (TBoneTX @ Jul 13 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good idea! But, please -- everybody needs to post in ENGLISH so that everyone on VJ can understand what is being discussed. Some of us don't yet know enough Spanish to be able to translate some of these threads for ourselves. Absolutely right! I have read some posts in Spanish, I can understand them but what if everyone started to post in their native language? Babel Tower. I agree, everybody needs to post in English, for the benefit of everyone. Doesn't benefit the immigrants who don't speak English, for sure.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-07-14 20:38:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Peter @ Sep 21 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have flown both on Lan and American airlines from Miami to Lima. Lan by far was the best for comfort, I have to say it was the best airline I have ever been on, and I have done a bit of world traveling. I am taking delta to Lima this week and Avianca to Lima at Christmas. Has anyone flown on them? The only problem I had with Avianca was a rude flight attendant in Bogota who told me she was going to send me back to Miami (no idea why, she was just taking tickets and apparently thought it was funny?) - food isn't great, but at least you get food!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-09-27 16:56:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	ya pues. no tenia el tiempo para VJ por muchas semanas. Mi esposo y yo hemos decidido a mudarnos a NY porque Florida es, como yo digo en ingles "a huge pile of suck" - no hay nada buena aca para nosotros. Entonces hace tres semanas mi esposo perdio la punta de su dedo en un accidente al trabajo Yo salgo por NY en dos semanas - el va a juntar conmigo al principio de Septiembre. Su mama va a regresar a Peru yo creo. Ella dice que va a regresar a Peru, entonces no, entonces si, entonces no. No hay nada para ella aca no entiendo porque remanecer - pero yo creo que va a ir ahora. Ella tiene cuatro hijos alla y todos sus nietos. El hermano y la hermana de mi esposo que estan en los EEUU...a ellos no importa nada de su mama. Pero me frustra porque ella siempre dice "lo que dios quiere" y yo querio decirle que NO, es que TU quieres y tienes que tomar una decision! Mi esposo ya esta cansado con "me voy...me quedo...me voy....me quedo" especialmente proque el tiene que comprar el bolleto y tiene miedo que va a comprarlo y ella va a decir "ok! he cambiado de opinion otra vez!"	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-07-15 12:27:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Jul 10 2008, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (katiushka @ Jul 9 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i dont have even a week here and already feel that i want a cebiche!!!!!!! i understand you oly, i had a maid all my life.... i worked since i was 17 and i dont know how to cook!!!!!! i wont starve to dead, i mean..... i wont burn water but dont aske me to do a lomo saltado or arroz con pollo or a cebiche..... but i used to do very good pisco sours.. hhhmmmm...... thanks god my honey cooks.... ja,ja,ja,ja yes i know it is funny but he spent the whole weekedn cooking so i will have food for the week when he is at work... that is so sweet.... i just arrived to texas, in a place autside austin, i was already 4 times here before this last time that is when i am getting married and i also wonder if i can get a place with peruvian food so if somebody knows about one.... i will be very happy my best wishes to everybody!!! Bienvenida a USA! I feel you girl, a few of us had a maid in Peru a never had to "move a finger" o mover un dedo" as we say in Spanish. I was in the same situation, when I first move here I had to learn to do do everythig around the house, hubby helps but honestly I really enjoy to take care of my home sweet home. A maid here, specially in NYC where we live will charge us about $100 a day so no way we will hire one. Before I moved here I got this awesome book named"QUE COCINARE HOY? by Nicolini I'm sure you heard about it and I'll recommend it a 100%. There is a cool website with peruvian recipes in english and spansih www.yanuq.com. Hope it helps. MandyR, how was the cruise?? Saludos Vi gracias por el link a este sitio Vi! QUOTE (MandR @ Jul 11 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Vi Thanks for asking........ We had a GREAT time on the cruise..... Actually won money in the casino and had enough to pay for all onboard expenses and items we bought at the different Islands we were at. I have to say that San Juan, Puerto Rico is ok..... I called it the Mini Miami. St. Thomas and St. Marteen, great islands to visit. Hope to get back there one day to sit back and relax on the beaches. Rossy is home for about a month and is then headed to Lima with our little one for 2 weeks. Mini Miami? The Cubans wouldn't like that!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-07-14 20:36:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (susita83 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (athena_ny @ Apr 6 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Shannon and David @ Apr 6 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 31 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, we have alot of poor people in Peru, Sil got a glance of it during his first trip, he went to visit some schools and give some donations from catholics schools from NYC,he got to visit the shanty towns and poor towns from Chimbote Trujillo and Chiclayo, so he got a clear understanding of the situation in Peru. He got robbed twice but he understands that because of the poverty people need to survive and feed their families. He was a little surprised when he saw the nice areas of Lima, to be honest we spend alot of time in those areas, he felt safer there. I was a little surprise too when I saw homeless people in NY, in Peru we have another idea of how life is in the States. I have to take the train to Grand Central everyday and I see people asking for money walking through the train, or sleeping in the train stations, I would never imagine in a million times that I will see something like that here but I guess that there are poor peole everywhere right? Take care people. Vi Hi! My fiance is from Peru too... needed a little break from preparations for the interview on Thursday in Lima. So here I am! David is from Chimbote. I've spent a bunch of time there. It's amazing how one is able to get used to the poverty that is in that city when you live there a while. I was there all summer (almost 2 months, winter for them) and I've taken 3 other short trips there as well. I still enjoyed myself when I was there tho regardless of the poverty. Spent time with good people, his family and friends. That's what life revolved around, because money for other stuff like vacations, etc. isn't really there. There is an American church just a few blocks away from where he lives that does a lot of relief work in the neighborhood. Lots of Americans come down and work for chunks of time, so weird to keep running into them down there! They were the only other Americans that I saw. Tourists don't go to Chimbote, ha ha! People asked me all the time if I worked with the church because they were so surprised to see una "gringa" (my name in the neighborhood, what a surprise) living there. I really liked Trujillo and Huanchaco though. Maybe I didn't see enough of Trujillo to notice the kind of poverty that exists in Chimbote. Chan Chan was pretty amazing. There is poverty in the US, but to me it seems different because there are social programs set up to take care of people in bad situations. The social system isn't set up like that down there, ya know?? Had a long talk with one of David's relatives when I was there about this. But how could the country start social programs like we have in the States when so many people don't pay taxes because they can't afford to?? OK, back to interview prep! Besos, Shannon I agree that it's great we at least have social programs, but the people it takes care of when compared to the people who really need the help is grossly disproportionate, because the US government STILL thinks 2 people can live anywhere in the USA on what? A little under $17,000? I've got a lot of issues with the US government lately, though. I may be biased. Speaking of gringas... My niece was asking me "los estados unidos tiene piscinas?" "si" "los estados unidos tiene playas?" "si" ad nauseum, and she starts asking me, "de donde estan sus padres?" and I'm like "...los estados unidos" and she's like "si pero que PAISES" so I tell her "mi mama esta britanica y [irish] y mi papa es polaco y griego" and she's like, "OOOOOO tu eres GRINGA" Like you couldn't tell from my transparent skin. Haha. LOL... yeah What I found the most hysterical is that my future sister in law thinks I'm the laziest woman alive. She basically told me that American women don't take care of thier kids or do housework because we have machines that do everything LOL (watching too many sitcoms!) and that we can't cook because all we do is eat fast food (love how she knows this, like she's been here). SOOO I respond, I'm a single mom. I work 40+ hours a week and I go to college full-time as well. I pay for both of my kids to go to preschool. I'm surprised I'm still even alive. I study and clean my house all night, I don't sleep. Excuse me if I use a washing machine. And I'm too poor to own a dishwasher. But yes, I have a vacuum. Is that OK with you? I still love her though. LOL, but she barked up the WRROONNG tree LOL I am lazy. I don't even want to run the vacuum. But that's a personal failing, and my dad making us scrub the bathroom until it was acceptable to him, nad he was the head of the housekeeping department for one of the largest nursing homes in the area. Hardly fair, so basically nothing was every good enough and I think I'm allergic to cleaning. Seriously, though, I am getting better. It's not so much that I'm American and have machines to do everything. I have a dishwasher in my apartment, but we never use it. It's easier for me to wash by hand (does that sound crazy?) If I was in a family of 4 or 5 and we filled up the dishwasher everyday like we did when both of us were at home at my parents', well, okay. But by the time the thing fills up, it smells like a garbage dump. Seriously though, I think it's good to remember there are jerks everywhere. Peru...USA...wherever. (I work with a huge Peruvian jerk. I also work with a ton of American jerks.) FWIW, my sister in law in Peru uses a vacuum. The one who doesn't, doesn't have a carpet. She has a washer and a dryer in her house, too. Obviously luckier than some, but I'm luckier than I will be in 2 months when I'm hanging out at the laundromat.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-04-16 18:34:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Shannon and David @ Apr 6 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 31 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, we have alot of poor people in Peru, Sil got a glance of it during his first trip, he went to visit some schools and give some donations from catholics schools from NYC,he got to visit the shanty towns and poor towns from Chimbote Trujillo and Chiclayo, so he got a clear understanding of the situation in Peru. He got robbed twice but he understands that because of the poverty people need to survive and feed their families. He was a little surprised when he saw the nice areas of Lima, to be honest we spend alot of time in those areas, he felt safer there. I was a little surprise too when I saw homeless people in NY, in Peru we have another idea of how life is in the States. I have to take the train to Grand Central everyday and I see people asking for money walking through the train, or sleeping in the train stations, I would never imagine in a million times that I will see something like that here but I guess that there are poor peole everywhere right? Take care people. Vi Hi! My fiance is from Peru too... needed a little break from preparations for the interview on Thursday in Lima. So here I am! David is from Chimbote. I've spent a bunch of time there. It's amazing how one is able to get used to the poverty that is in that city when you live there a while. I was there all summer (almost 2 months, winter for them) and I've taken 3 other short trips there as well. I still enjoyed myself when I was there tho regardless of the poverty. Spent time with good people, his family and friends. That's what life revolved around, because money for other stuff like vacations, etc. isn't really there. There is an American church just a few blocks away from where he lives that does a lot of relief work in the neighborhood. Lots of Americans come down and work for chunks of time, so weird to keep running into them down there! They were the only other Americans that I saw. Tourists don't go to Chimbote, ha ha! People asked me all the time if I worked with the church because they were so surprised to see una "gringa" (my name in the neighborhood, what a surprise) living there. I really liked Trujillo and Huanchaco though. Maybe I didn't see enough of Trujillo to notice the kind of poverty that exists in Chimbote. Chan Chan was pretty amazing. There is poverty in the US, but to me it seems different because there are social programs set up to take care of people in bad situations. The social system isn't set up like that down there, ya know?? Had a long talk with one of David's relatives when I was there about this. But how could the country start social programs like we have in the States when so many people don't pay taxes because they can't afford to?? OK, back to interview prep! Besos, Shannon I agree that it's great we at least have social programs, but the people it takes care of when compared to the people who really need the help is grossly disproportionate, because the US government STILL thinks 2 people can live anywhere in the USA on what? A little under $17,000? I've got a lot of issues with the US government lately, though. I may be biased. Speaking of gringas... My niece was asking me "los estados unidos tiene piscinas?" "si" "los estados unidos tiene playas?" "si" ad nauseum, and she starts asking me, "de donde estan sus padres?" and I'm like "...los estados unidos" and she's like "si pero que PAISES" so I tell her "mi mama esta britanica y [irish] y mi papa es polaco y griego" and she's like, "OOOOOO tu eres GRINGA" Like you couldn't tell from my transparent skin. Haha.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-04-06 21:13:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (ardilla @ Apr 1 2008, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everybody, I notice that there are extremes in Peru between high and low income groups. But poverty is not just material. In the US, we have a "poverty of time" (no time for family, for vacation, for taking the time to cook and eat, to relax, to enjoy things, to live our lives fully outside of work, to enjoy those small moments with each other, for "ocio"). Not having enough time to live and really enjoy life, this too is poverty, for we have decided as a society to dedicate ourselves to making money so that we can buy things. Why are things more important than people? Does having more $ and things make people of any income group in the US "richer?" Having said that, there are also extremes between the bigger cities in Peru vs smaller ones. In the smaller ones, there is less rush and more time for social life. Just my dos soles.... Agreed agreed agreed.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-04-02 06:44:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (susita83 @ Mar 30 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everyone, I'm new here... looks like you guys are having a good time in this forum so I figured I'd jump in the convo. My fiancé is from Peru, he works in Lima (in Ate) but lives in San Bartolo. I love it in San Bartolo it's such a beautiful beach and the people there are so laid back and it's just such a calm environment with wonderful people. I don't really feel the same way about Lima. It's a bit too crazy and unorganized for me (haha... and I'm from New York, born and raised). I don't mind cities but I have never ever seen anything like Lima. Some of the things I loved about Lima were the food, (the ceviche was out of this world (and I said I'd NEVER eat raw fish, I don't even like sushi), Miraflores Parque Kennedy is really cool too, I was able to get an iced coffee at Starbucks there (although Luis almost had a heart attack when he saw the price) and there were a LOT of interesting things to see. A question for all of the Americans with Peruvian fiancés... Did the poverty shock you in Lima? It really shocked me. My fiancé isn't wealthy, and neither am I for that matter, but the way some of these people (mainly children) were living really affected me. We passed by different areas that I couldn't even bare to look at. One time, I started crying on the combi because a little barefooted boy that's about my son's age (3 or 4) came on begging for money. He was filthy and not even dressed properly, and it looked like he hadn't been eating properly either. The combi driver just yelled at him to get off. I just couldn't cope with that. In Perú, you either live well, have a maid and a house, or you're dirt poor. I just don't find that fair. We didn't spend a lot of time in poverty-ridden areas, and I didn't see anything like that even in el Rimac. When a little 8 year old boy came up to us at 4 am one morning selling candy, I got really upset, though. Mirko asked him where his mother was, and he said she was coming, and while as a rule we didn't give anything to the kids since they made it illegal for the children to beg (that's what Mirko told me, anyway?), he gave him 50 centimos and told him to keep his candy. That kind of stuff DID break my heart, but at the same time I do realize that not everyone has the same lease in life, and people do what they have to do to survive. I can't save the world, though I wish i could. However, my husband's family does well for themselves, but they do not have a maid. None of his sisters do, and his other sister who only has an apartment and makes a modest living selling shoes and boots isn't dirt poor. I think the disparity between poor and even living modestly is a lot greater than it is in the US, but poverty levels have dropped. (54.3% in 2001 to 49.5% in 2006, and in 2006 the US-Peru Trade Promotion Agreement was signed, so I hope it would continue to drop.) However, the poverty I saw in Lima was nothing like the poverty I saw up in the mountains over in Cusco. I don't know the reasons why some people in Lima can live a good life and why others can't. It doesn't make sense to me completely either, but I didn't ask for explanations. Maybe I should when Mirko gets home tonight.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-31 11:26:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Martin11581 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SO WHERE IN PERU IS EVERYONE FROM? My wife is from CHEPEN, a town in LA LIBERTAD between TRUJILLO AND CHICLAYO and I am American-peruvian, Made in Peru, born in the USA :-) My mother is from PISCO, a town north of ICA Mirko is from Lima ... from San Borja but he lived all around the city for a while (even in Rimac, EEK! that was for a few years because it was very close to his high school). His father was born in Lima to an American-Peruvian mother (hee, funny how that comes around), and his mom in Trujillo.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-28 17:50:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Martin11581 @ Mar 28 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SHE IS FINALLY HOME, WOOOOHOOOO!!!! I will still keep coming here as VJ! Hey one question, now that she has arrived. I know i have to take her to get her SSN. But what steps do i now take to remove her conditional status on her green card? You do that 90 days before the expiry date on her green card ... and the guide for it is pretty good Congratulations!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-28 10:43:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 27 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Everybody!! Athena, yes Sil knows the exact location of your school, he lived there for two years. You know how to make ceviche??? , to be honest I never try to make it, I prefer to go to a peruvian restaurant. What about Mirko? does he like soccer?? It's so funny, when I met Sil he didn't know anything about soccer but know he is worst than a peruvian (right now he is watching on tv argentinian soccer) he watches soccer all the freaking time, on the weekends we have soccer for breakfast, lunch and dinner, he doesn't even watch baseball anymore!!! Angela is great that you know how to cook and if it's peruvian food even better, I agree with you when you say that our food is delicious, I was a tour guide in Peru and always brought my tourists to try our food and they always fell in love with it. Before I moved here my mom gave me the book "Que cocinare Hoy??? by Nicolini, and you have no idea of how much it helped me. You live in San Miguel right? I'm familiar with that area, specially with el club del BCR, right next to IPAE, my dad works in the BCR and I spent all my childhood there. It's very funny but the first time I went back to Peru after moving here I felt a little weird, the traffic drove me crazy, the noise in the streets and the insecurity. I love Lima but I have to say that I feel so much safe here. Here you see people with their lap tops in the train or their listening music on their Ipods walking in the streets, you can't do that in Lima, here people they respect you and you don't have to hide anything. Martin, Congratulations!!! your wifey is finally coming home!!!!!!!!!!! . Guys I gotta go, tomorrow is friday I need to relax! Take care Vi I make ceviche. We used to just go to this good Peruvian restaurant, but they closed for some reason and the other one doesn't even put cilantro in it! There is a new restaurant we should try called Ceviche Fresco that has Peruvian ceviche but our friends say it's like 11.00 for a very small plate so I'd rather make it. My MIL taught me how to make it ... I'm trying to learn how to make other things, I bought a cookbook with recipes from all over Peru ... I want to learn how to make aji de gallina (one of my favorites). I personally don't like soccer a whole lot, but Mirko LOVES it. He used to play all the time and went to see a game when we were in Cusco ... he plays sometimes here, he has some Peruvian friends and other South American/Caribbean friends. When we were on our way to see his uncle, a soccer game had just ended and people were pouring out of the stadium, all in the streets and the police were everywhere; it was unlike anything I had ever seen. I think in the US some people like baseball, some football, some basketball, but it always seems like EVERYONE in Peru likes soccer at least a little. Some people were acting a little crazy haha I remember his sisters telling me in cabs to hide my purse, and I know there have been times I've grabbed my wallet and left my purse with my ipod in it or other stuff in the car (locked) and not really thought about it ... and Mirko kept saying "hold your purse hold your purse" not all the time but in some of the worse neighborhoods. the only time I was actually kind of scared though was in Barranco because guys kept grabbing me and asking me where I was from; his sisters warned me of the bicheros (this is what they called them?) who like gringas but it was just weird to me; and one time in Miraflores some crazy old man grabbed my ####### ... Mirko and his brother were ready to go after him but he was kind of crazy talking to himself so they did not - but guys here in America will do that sometimes too, I've just been mostly lucky in the US. Mirko says people tried to grab me in Peru because I'm so white it was the first thing they saw but I don't believe it (I'm just super pale, even people here in the US make fun of me; pale and blonde) - anyway, in Barranco I told his sister Nelly that I have my wedding ring on if anyone bothers me ... she's like "yes, but you wear it on the american (left) hand - here that means you're separated!" Eek, I don't mean for this to be so long - I just miss Peru and like talking about it Mirko says I was so happy in Peru it is like I should have been born there PS I have a question for you guys - one of my sister in laws said that because I married Mirko they think there's a way for me to at least be like a resident of Peru but she said she thinks it is a citizen - do you know if you have to live there like you do here for that or what can I do because I married a Peruvian citizen? She tried explaining it to me but while I can speak Spanish, when it gets into technical stuff, I have a hard time. Someday we do want to live there at least half the year, not right now, but it never hurts to know	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-27 22:58:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (James&Angela @ Mar 27 2008, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi guys!!! Its very nice to see that Vi and Athena started a nice "conversation" here, and I would like to share or comment some things Vi, yes, you re right, if I have my documents in order and I know to speak english maybe is easier for me to have job opportunities there. As I told to Athena in another post, its possible I wont get a job as attorney at the beggining cause I know its necessary to get the BAR Examination in Oregon, and Im sure I will study very hardly for getting it soon. But its possible that I can do some related things, work with kids -that I love- or help latin people in Salem OR, well, its lots of possibilities, right? Then, I see that your husband loves peruvian traditions and food! thats wonderful!!! James also loves that, he was fascinated with different things in Lima but he said also that there are some things that he would not like never, for instance the disorder in traffic -well, the Caos!-, or the cosmopolitan side that means "lots of people!!!!". He is very quiet and comes from a quiet city, so he prefers to be with family or close friends, not more than that. I also know for my fiancee that there is so expensive to hire a girl for cleaning or doing housekeeping, as we say "empleadas" here. For that reason Im conscious that my love and me will do our laundry and different kind of things in our home, of course I will cook normally peruvian food -thanks to my mother!!!! - thanks God James loves it. When he was here last january, he loved my mothers food cause he ate at home several times, so that means he will love also mine! And you re right when you say that here in Peru we earn less money than in USA and for that reason the price of the apartments and houses are absolutely different than there. I know also that life there is expensive, and taxes are high, so the money is "invested" on living comfortable but paying taxes like "crazy" Well at least now here people can buy a very small apartment through a mortgage with local banks, I remember that some years ago that was very difficult. Now the possibility of a loan with mortgage is very high even for people that earn few few money, cause the government has introduced a plan for building very cheap apartments on a program called "Mi Vivienda"... But if you would see that apartments you would be impressed how small they re... 70 meters or less some times... Athena! Well when I said that my baby would try to sow a lucuma tree in our yard was more a joke than true... But James has a common phrase in his life: "I will try", so Im pretty sure that when he will come here for picking me up and living in USA, he will get some lucumas seeds and he will try to sow them... Whats goind to happen? We dont know, but my husband will try (I love you baby!) I cant believe that your friends husband doesnt like peruvian food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How is that????? If our food is delicious, as you said is one of the best in the world, and not only peruvians says that, the most of foreign people that come here loves peruvian cuisine and the international cheffs respect so much our traditions ... Well, if you need some recipes about peruvian food dont worry, only ask!!!! Finally I agree with Vi when says that here people are more family oriented and not so much materialistic, but Athena says that here people dont buy what they dont need????? Well not in all cases dear friend, not in all cases... There are reasonable people like your family in law, that buy the stuff they can afford, and thats the best. But we as country re living now an important economic growth so that means Banks love to loan money to people that feels that can pay all that they can with the credit cards... But at the end, they realize that they re full of debts and its late for regret Its cool to talk to you, girls! I hope that this conversation keeps alive here... Kisses to all of you... Angela I meant in the US we buy things we don't really need a lot of the time. I look around my house and I have so much ####### I don't need/don't use. Not in Peru but in the US. I was really referring to more buying things we can't afford and how everything is bought on credit.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-27 22:39:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 26 2008, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Athena (by the way, is that your real name???), I think you told me in the past that you are from Albany, Sil went to the U.of Albany he promised that he will take me there sometime, I think that he has a few friends that still living there. About $$$, yeah, you know how expensive NYC could be, at first we thougt about moving to Manhattan but after Sil checked the prices we decided to stay away, a Studio could go for $1800!!! can you believe that ?????????????????? I have a friend that lives in the Upeer East Side and she pays for a 2 BDR apartment $5800 a month, that's ridiculous. People definitely earn less money in Peru than here, when I mention salaries of $60,000 a year the get very surprised what they don't know is how much Uncle Sam gets from it. Over there we never mention how much we make a year but how much we make a month and usually we get pay once a month. In our last trip we visited a cousin that just got married and bought a nice apartment in San Borja (are we talking about the same couple??) they live in a 2 BDR with a small patio where they can have BBQ's, a nice kitchen, big living living room and dining room, family room and a small room for the maid, they paid $65,000 for it and we Sil heard that he wanted to move to Lima. Something like that heere will be around $450,000 according to Sil. Another thing that I don't see here are the girls that help around the house or as we say in Peru "empleadas" or maids, here a girl will charge about $80 a day to clean the apartment. In Peru I was ussed to have a maid but here? forget it!!! so I have to do everything with a very little help from hubby but I don't mind I love to clean my house. I try to cook peruvian food almost everyday and Sil loves it, I'm very lucky, he says that he is "peruano" and of course loves the Pisco Sour and Chicha morada . I think the american society is more materialistic and in Peru we are more family oriented, that's one of the things that Sil loves about my culture. I miss the big family reunions , the parties (you are so right, in our last trip, all my aunts and uncles invited us to their houses for special dinners it was a little too overwhelming). He is italian so every celebration goes around the food, in Peru is the alcohol!!!! and we love it!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha. Oh before I forget, I miss the campings in the beach too. Time to go! good night again Vi Mirko tells me I am Peruvian Oh, I went to school right down the road from SUNY Albany - at the College of Saint Rose. Sil probably knows where it is. I need to learn how to cook more Peruvian things ... I know a few things but when my MIL leaves I know he will want Peruvian food more than I cook it now I know how to make ceviche and parihuela, the only thing I don't always like about Peruvian food is there's a lot of meat, and I don't eat too much meat. But I just make it for him and eat some vegetables I think you're lucky that Sil likes Peruvian food and Angela is lucky her fiance does and yes, Mirko is lucky to have me his cousin who lives not far from here (we're not close to her for a lot of reasons, but we see her sometimes) tells us that her husband who is from Alabama, very southern and very country refuses to eat a lot of Peruvian food. He's like "I don't like rice, don't make that" and "I don't like this, don't make that" - how can you be that way when you have your food in the door to one of the best cuisines in the world?	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-27 07:00:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 26 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Guys!! If you don't mind I would like to join this conversation. I'm peruvian too and came to this country about three years ago. I never thought about moving to this country, I felt that my life was complete in Lima, I have an awesome family, great career and great friends but when I met Sil (my hubby) he turned my life upside down. He proposed to me, we got married in Lima and after 6 months I got the Visa and came to NYC. This is a huge city with a large hispanic comunity, now I can say that I have friends from all over the world. I was very lucky because I got a job right away, not in my field that is tourism but something related, so don't worry Angela, I think that if you have your papers in order and speak english you will find plenty of oportunities here. There are plenty of peruvian restaurants and bodegas here, not so close to my house but close enough. There are not taxis where I live, I take the train everyday to go to work, I work in Manhattan (or THE CITY) kind of a huge Miraflores, I like it alot because when I get bored I come back to the peace and quite of my home. I'm sure that in the beginning you will be a little surprise with the difference in the cost of living, here you can make alot of money but you spend alot too. Rent is pretty expensive comparing to the prices in Peru, I was in shock in the beginning but then you get used to that (1 BDR apartment could cost $1100a month) Oh well, hope it helps. Hubby is calling me adn then we watch Magaly together. Saludos Vi M was totally content with his life in Peru too; he was supposed to go to school and have a professional career and all that; which is why he gets so mad he had to come here and spend time here illegally, because then people think, "Oh you have nothing in your country," which is not true. He's not proud of how things worked out, but it's so hard to be embarrassed when it was because of his father's death. When I was in Peru, there were some unfortunate areas of the cities (both Lima and Cusco, only two cities we were able to visit), but I remember telling him, "I don't understand the idea that S. America is so poor and everyone wants to leave; it's possible to live great here, and be happier than you ever will be in the US" Vi you're lucky to live in NYC because it's so multicultural; I am from ALbany and would not want to live in the city, but that is one benefit. That is the one thing I like about Miami, and I don't like much about that city. Tampa (where we are) has some Peruvian restaurants, and places that sell Peruvian products, so it's okay. I was shocked in Peru how much a NICE apartment cost - so little compared to here! but I suppose people earn less, too? It's probably all relative. My sister in law's apartment/condo that they own in San Borja was only 60K she told me. I noticed that the apartments tended to be a lot smaller, though I'm not sure what an 1100 dollar apartment in NYC looks like these days. There is also more of a desire to have more STUFF even if you can't afford it in the US, I believe. My husband's family buys what they can afford, for the most part, and here we have loans for cars, loans for education, credit cards - I know credit exists in Peru, but is it as prevalent? I came back to our apartment and went into the bedroom, when I got back from Peru, and it was a mess, with stuff everywhere because the dresser is broken and he hasn't fixed it, and I was like, "Whoa, it got bigger!" It didn't really, but it seemed so different to what I'd been dealing with the 2 weeks prior. Though I'm told a LOT of countries sprawl less than we do - smaller cars, smaller housing, smaller everything.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 21:11:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (James&Angela @ Mar 26 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Athina, thanks for your answer... Well, yes, you have said some things that I will miss also when I travel to USA for living there. Of course for peruvians is common to find a bus or a taxi in any corner or street, and its also normal to have lots of things to do, visiting a friend or family, going to a restaurant, cinema, theatre, dancing discos, the zoo, cause everything is close and on the same area ... As my almost husband always says: "In Oregon you will have very quiet and calm life, cause in comparison with Lima, Salem is a very small and quiet city" Imagine than here in Lima we have eight million people and in Salem is only one hundred fifty thousand people!!!!!! So Im sure I will be quiet and happy with my love but at least at the begginig I will miss the noise, the cosmopolitan life here, the Lima smell My baby also has told me that we will try to get some peruvian food when its possible, cause he loves it too! He is fascinated with all our main dishes, the Inca Kola, and Lucumas flavor. Dont know if you have tasted on your visits here lucuma icecream or some dessert with that fruit? For my love, thats amazing! He has thought that would be a nice idea trying to sow a lucuma tree in our future house Well maybe that would be a very nice experiment to raise a peruvian plant in american land... we will see what happens and then I will tell you And yes, both of us have professional degree: Im lawyer and he is engineer. Maybe as you say, that could help me, but I must admit that Im a bit scared thinking about my possibilities as professional there considering that Im latin and dont know if I could have job opportunities for my career. But my love and me are very possitive always so we will find the best way to get a good job even if its not as lawyer at the beggining... Well, your husbands name is Mirko, right? I think I have readen that here ... Kisses to both of you Angela Yes, his name is Mirko ... he's named after a Russian uncle (by marriage) or some such. He's the 6th kid, I think his mom was running out of names (and she fought his dad - she didn't want more kids, so he jokes she was still mad when he was born ) I love anything with lucuma - at some specialty stores here (Florida) we can get the ice cream, but the fruit is very very very hard to find. I hope a tree would grow, but Oregon might be a little tricky. You can get Inca Kola here, but it's not the same - sweetened with processed sweeteners and the like, but it does in a pinch. With an advanced degree, I'm sure you'll be fine; while you probably won't be able to practice law (at least not right away, since you'd have to take the Oregon state bar), the fact you had an advanced degree should help you in other fields. I prefer Peruvian food to most stereotypical "American" food - I cook some Peruvian food for him but he eats just about anything so I'm lucky	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 21:04:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (James&Angela @ Mar 26 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Athena... Im from San Miguel, close to Plaza San Miguel (its a big mall), maybe your husband has been there some time Then I met a wonderful american guy and we re right now in all process about gettin Visa K1 for marrying in USA asap So tell me, your husband is now addapted to his new life in USA? What dioes he miss the most here? Im pretty sure that I will miss of course my family, and then the food, its delicious!!!! Kisses... Angela We were at Plaza San Miguel when we just visited his nephew and niece live near there with their mother. Well, I met him after he had already been here a while; he entered on a tourist visa, so we did not do the K-1 or K-3 process. What he misses the most is his family, and surfing and how there is so much to do there - when visiting there was also someone to go visit or somewhere to walk around, and here I don't think there is so much of that. Also, the people in Peru he feels are a lot nicer, though he's met a lot of nice people here, he's also had some incidents where people were mean/rude because he's Hispanic, which he's struggled with, so he obviously misses the fact that he feels like he fits in more in Lima. Real Inca Kola, real chicha morada, pisco sours, cheap ceviche. I'm not from there, but I miss fresh, cheap alfajores He misses turrones. You speak English pretty well (at least written) so you won't have as much trouble as he did with that - he came here not planning to stay but his dad who was on a work visa died, and he had to stay to take care of that and learn English as efficiently as possible. He often gets frustrated here - everything is money money money, like we had to buy 2 cars so we can just get to work, because many US cities do not have good public transportation (as I'm sure you'll find), and going somewhere is so easy in Lima, so he misses that (however, doesn't miss the way people drive there! ) If you/your spouse have advanced degrees, it's a lot easier, but we're both working on our's now - got married young, hehe. So while he's adapted at this point, and is okay with being here because I am, he loves Lima more - someday I'd like for us to be able to go back and live there	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 14:13:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (James&Angela @ Mar 26 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi everybody!!! How re you doing? Here in Lima everything is ok, without news, only that the weather is changing, from sunny days to windy days but we know that its normal on this time of the year, considering that winter is very close. Dear Vi, yes Im still in Lima, thanks for your advice about enjoying as much as I can, time with my family and friends, for sure, thats the most that Im doing now, cause I know then when I travel to USA I will miss them a lot .... Kisses.... Angela Angela, what part of Lima are you from? My husband is from San Borja	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 12:12:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Martin11581 @ Mar 26 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One main thing to bring from LIMA is MEDICINA!! I don't want medicine from Lima. If my husband keeps popping antibiotics the way he has been, he'll get a super bacterial bug that nothing will kill. I'm going to all measures to keep the medicine IN Lima.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 11:59:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 25 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Congrats Martin!! Your wifey si going to be here very very soon, just tell her to bring plenty of peruvian products. We do get Inc Kola at our local supermarket -PATHMARK- and we pay about $2.00 per bottle. My mom sends me chocolates and PRODUCTOS PROVENZAl too, in Peru I paid about $1.20 per bag and here I have to pay $3.50 not fair at all but what else can I do??? Angela If you still in Peru enjoy as much as you can, spend alot of time with your family and friends. Gotta go guys Good night! Vi QUOTE (Martin11581 @ Mar 25 2008, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WELL MY WIFE WILL FINALLY COME HERE ON THURSDAY!!! . SHE HAS HER PASSPORT and the envelope with her now. I AM VERY ANXIOUS!!!! We have Mirko's brother Challe (er, short for Carlos, I guess) sends us stuff every once in a while ... and we just hope they don't steal it when it comes through customs Our friend from Bolivia was telling us that when her husband came back from Bolivia (well, he'll be her ex soon enough) at Miami, he had 60 empanadas in his bags (#######, I thought that was ridiculous) and since the box they checked had meat they took them all. And it's easier to get stuff through the airport (at least for us) than through the mail ... sometimes if someone in his family (and they're a huge family so there's always someone) is coming to the US for a visit or has come to Peru for a visit, they'll pay them to bring stuff back and then mail it here so that customs won't get it. When Mirko came back, he brought me Peruvian wine AND pisco! But since the last time I went overboard on the pisco sours, I'm a little scared to open the pisco.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-26 07:33:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Martin11581 @ Mar 25 2008, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I work in Clifton, NJ and at our local Shoprite INKA Cola 2L is $1.09 That's not fair! Makes sense, though, I guess. Please sneak into the factory and replace all HFCS with azucar. Thank you.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-25 12:56:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (DaniAndEnrique @ Mar 25 2008, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 23 2008, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Everybody!! Welcome Angela, I'm sure that you will find alot of good advice and good friends on this site, Bienvenida a Visa Journey!!!!!! Athena, yes, peruvian people like to party alot!!! ok, maybe not everybody most of the people love to celebarte . We are getting ready to go for dinner to my in laws, they are having an special dinner and I'm making "canchita" plus "chicha morada" to bring there, they love them there. Time to, Happy Easter to everybody!!! Hugs Vi Hi Peru people, My name is Dani and I am married with peruvian, you probably saw me around here on VJ.com . Reading your post Vi I would like to add that I like chicha morada and didnt know that I can find in a regular store (international section), but thing is it was very expensive and unfortunatly I didnt buy it:lol: (0.250 L) was $1.50 and 2 L. Inca Cola $1.99, I mean big difference and not fair at all. We buy the corn at the Mexican store that has Peruvian products and make our own chicha That is expensive though - I have our BIL send us the mix. Don't even bother with the Inca Kola, it's bottled in Clifton, New Jersey and made with high fructose corn syrup like most American sodas. Meaning it doesn't taste as good as the kind in Peru, and is just as harmful as regular American soda- http://www.westonapr.../cornsyrup.html details why HFCS is not good for your body. http://www.sfgate.co...FDGS24VKMH1.DTL - another article (Can you tell I've cut HFCS out of my diet?) So, I only drink Inca Kola when I can get the real kind, ever since I came back from Peru. How expensive they make it here also irritates me, because it's not even imported, Coca Cola since buying them just bottles it stateside and charges more for nothing. Though, if you do want to drink it even if it isn't the same, I can get it for 1.70 or so at the small Mexican stores that have some Peruvian products. It's more expensive in the regular grocery stores. You aren't going to find it for the 3 soles you can get it for in Peru, regardless. Edited by athena_ny, 25 March 2008 - 07:23 AM.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-25 07:22:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 22 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aura is my favotite club in Lima, another good one but is not really a club is Mama Batata in Larcomar too. I can't wait to goo back to Peru and party!!! We just came back from a peruvian restaurant, we had a ceviche mixto to share, Sil ordered anticuchos with choclo peruano and I ordered "camarons empanizados" yummy yummy . Good night! Vi We went to Batata's too ... it was nice but it was my third night of partying in a row and my feet hurt and there were some weird guys by the bathroom that were bothering me ... I like Aura the best We are going to a Peruvian restaurant with our Bolivian friend (whose husband left her yesterday ) to get pollo a la brasa or as we say "PERUVIAN CHICKEN!" Edited by athena_ny, 23 March 2008 - 11:13 AM.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-23 11:12:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 22 2008, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was talking about AURA!!! HAHAHAHAHA. I LOVED AURA...except we went on thursday, and girls get in free (which is why we went but whatever) and there were TOO MANY flirty Peruvian girls! I met some nice girls in line for the bathroom though, but I was drunk so I was talking to anyone. (Bathroom wait was like a half hr.)	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-22 19:54:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 21 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Felices Pascuas everybody!! Yeah, Cusco is so much fun, I lived there after I finished school, it was an awesome experience and Athena I agree with you, whenever they saw Sil they chased him but when they saw me they run . Everytime I tried to buy some sourvenir I had to tell Sil to stay away from me. The same thing happened to us is Lima but not at any indian market but in Miraflores or in some club, just to think about it makes me laugh. Girls trying to flirt with my hubby (I COULDN'T LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!! not even if I had to go to the bathroom) , of course they dissapeared as soon as they saw my angry face. Take care people!! Vi I went to Aura in Miraflores...that was a fun club but lots of girls flirting with my husband too!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-21 16:52:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Mar 20 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Melissa What about the languages???? Is the baby learning both??? Are you having any problem with that? I don't have babies but I'm prepared with my "Yola" and 'Nubeluz" Cd's jajajaja. Did Chris like Cusco? take care Vi I don't know about Chris, but *I* liked Cusco. Well, aside from the ladies who would chase after me trying to sell stuff...they would ignore my husband but come after me because I'm so white. Then I'll tell them, "You need to talk to him!" and they'd ease off	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2008-03-21 07:34:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	QUOTE (Vi Mazzella @ Oct 24 2007, 05:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good morning everybody Good news, I opened a new checking account at Washington Mutual and got approved for a Secured Credit card, I think that's the easiest way. I put down $300 and in about 10 days I'll be getting a new Master Card credit card. I thought that they were going to keep my $300 but they explained me that after a few months I can show the records of all the payments I make and they can approve me for a real credit card. Thanks everybody for sharing your experiences with me Have a great day VI I thought we were going to have to go this way but my husband got approved for a Bank of America Efectiva card with a limit of 1000 dollars...and he pays it off every month so pretty soon I'm sure his credit will be better than mine heh!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-12-07 10:10:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	For those planning a trip to lima soon... http://www.aa.com/ap...le.04.13.07.xml New York to Lima as cheap as $539!!! Lima to Miami as cheap as 929...psht.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-04-14 08:48:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	en dos semanas tenemos la entrevista por residencia permanente. ojala que nos aprueben y que nuestro viaje termine por un rato. viva peru!	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-04-12 20:49:00
Mexico, Latin & South America	Hi, I'm from Peru	My husband is from Peru...Lima (well, actually San Borja but yeah). Came here in 2003....misses it a lottttt so hopefully we get to visit in a few years	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-01-18 12:25:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Permanent resident visa	How about the dual citizenship??? I was just wondering how it works??? The US won't recognize you as a Phillipine citizen, just a US citizen - usually the same holds true of the other country, they'll recognize you as a citizen of their country so you don't go running to the embassy of the other country if you get in trouble, etc. (This is how it was explained to me anyway.) The only "real" way to lose citizenship usually is to actually go to the embassy and take a oath renouncing citizenship.	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-05-01 10:58:00
Africa: Sub-Saharan	Are there any successful LONGTERM marriages?	My husband is not a MENA man, but is from Peru, and people were still willing to tell me all kinds of negative things. I didn't tell anyone I'd married him until after the fact (except for those who were present) because I didn't want to listen to it. He was already in the US, so people would ask me (my own father did this) if he had his green card before they asked anything else. His own friends (I do not know which ones, if he told me I'd never speak to them again so we decided I didn't need to know as I'm antisocial enough as it is) asked if he married me for papers, and after we got married some of the South Americans we knew just asked if he had his papers yet. It makes me sick, that after all the immigration garbage, we're still being question by people who have no right to question. But I think if you love each other and work hard at it, it is possible to have a long term marriage regardless of what countries you are both from. I remember reading in the book Sayonara by James Mitchener about the men who married Japanese woman while in Japan during the war, and while this was a novel he heavily researches and even if this part wasn't true, it's the principal, and while neither one spoke the same language, they made up their own half English/half Japanese way to communicate. People will make it over hurdles that seem impossible to jump from the outside, but it is what it is in our hearts that matters. If you believe in your fiance/e and you believe in you, that is what matters. Do people get tricked sometimes? Yes. But you can't live your life in fear that it will happen to you, just be happy that you found someone	athena_ny	Female	Peru	2007-12-29 21:52:00