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IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresoh my, am I confused

Thank you, we haven't gotten the letter from the NVC yet (about how long did you have to wait before you recieved this? we only know the case is completed by using the NVC's automated message thing) but we will try calling that number soon! :yes:

Call the NVC automated line again, this will tell you the date your file was sent to London, then you will get the letter to confirm this!!
EuroFemale02006-03-04 11:47:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresoh my, am I confused

I am getting slightly lost...not due to lack of information, but from too much information. My husband's been looking at the London embassy's site, Department of State and visajourney.com timelines and has in the process got himself (and me) throughly confused.

What we basically want to know is, based on or situation, what happens now and about how long should it take until the medical and interview? We have sent the NVC the affidavit of support packet of forms and the ds-230 packet and have recieved a case complete notification from them. What happens now, keeping in mind that we are doing this through the London embassy? Does 'case complete' mean that all of the information included in the i864 and ds230 was satisfactory or will these forms now need to be looked at and approved by the embassy? (I ask this because it seems like the NVC processed the I864 remarkably quickly, it was recieved by them on the 17th of Feb and by the 21st we'd gotten 'case complete'...and on some websites we've looked at (department of state possibly) it has said that the embassy can take 12 weeks to approve the forms and another 4-6 to assign a visa interview date). Does the NVC assign the interview date or will this be done by the embassy?

I'm sorry there are so many questions, we thought we had it all figured out and then made the mistake of searching around :lol: .

I am in the same position as you, i'm waiting for an interview too, but already have my medical results from my K3 interview, which i can use!!......Have you got the letter from NVC saying they have sent your petition to London yet??.........if so then email London and ask if they have recieved it yet, you can also call DOS they will know your interview date as soon as London has arranged it, they give good info, the number is.........202 663 1225. immediately press 1, 1, 0
EDITED to say.......The Embassy will arrange the interview date for you!!

Edited by euro, 04 March 2006 - 11:45 AM.

EuroFemale02006-03-04 11:42:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresGranted!!!
Congratulations, :yes: :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-03-11 12:50:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresGod is so good!!!!!
Thats great news.......Congratulations :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-03-11 13:34:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresThis maybe a stupid question

When you file you DS-3032 and you have choosen to make the Agent (me) someone stateside. Once the package leaves the NVC and gets forwarded to the Embassy in the specific country. Who does the Package 3 & 4 come to? And who is the one send those packages? Is it the Embassy or the NVC? Last one is...I know what package 4 is but what is Package 3?

I must add that my spelling in this topic is horrible :wacko: :wacko:

NO question is a stupid one if you dont know the answer :P
The mail from the Embassy will be sent to the person in that country, the one who will be having the interview!, if you are UK London Embassy then the Embassy will be the one that sends the packs, for CR1/IR1 i dont think there is a pack 3 only pack 4 which is interview date & medical info!! :yes:
EDITED to say, i see your phillippines(SP?) i'm not sure if its the embassy there that will send you the packs, but someone will be along soon that does know!!
Good Luck :thumbs:

Edited by euro, 16 March 2006 - 01:41 PM.

EuroFemale02006-03-16 13:38:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEuro's anniversary
OH WOW thank you very very much................ :blush: :luv:
You people are just the coolest, :thumbs: :yes:

Edited by euro, 19 March 2006 - 12:01 PM.

EuroFemale02006-03-19 11:58:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresTo March Interviewees

It says in the interview packet to provide the most recent tax return. Does this mean the 2004 return?? I have not filed mine.

And if I completed my I-864 on September 2005, I don't need a new one right? Because I-864 expres in 1 year

Thanks & goodluck to everybody.

I asked the Embassy in London the same question this is a copy of the email reply they sent me, I know different countries do it different but it may help!!...........My interview date is April 28th


Your husband is not required to provide you with his 2005 tax returns. The Immigrant Visa Unit allow a grace period between the end of the tax year and the date petitioners are required to present the latest tax return.

Thank you for your e-mail correspondence.

Consular Information Unit
U.S. Embassy, London
CONS/CIU/SF

Edited by euro, 21 March 2006 - 10:50 AM.

EuroFemale02006-03-21 10:49:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresauthorization for federal tax data

:star:


also one more question.. A letter from the employer is ok as WELL as a recent pay stub right?

Yes Bella...............then once all that has been reviewed & they get the DS-230 part 1 its not long to case complete, good luck :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-02-20 16:06:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresQuick Path to Department of State operator

When you call the Department of State at (202) 663-1225 you have to sit there and listen to call this non-sense that 90% doesn't pertain to you. Does anyone know the path to speak with an operator directly? Please help, I can't listen to them talk everytime i call there

Yes call the number, once the robot guy ansers press 1-1-0 and you will be transfered to an operater, you may have to wait a few minutes though as they are normaly busy :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-03-21 13:14:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresHow Long to Travel
I think it is 6 months , but i have been known to be wrong, :o go figure
EuroFemale02006-03-20 17:15:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresGOT IT!!!
Congratulations, have a very HAPPY life together :dance:
EuroFemale02006-03-22 12:30:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 after K3
I chose to come here on a K3 then return to London for my CR1 interview, great excuse for a holiday too :P .....here's a link of people doing the same thing!! http://www.visajourn...p?showtopic=800
EuroFemale02006-03-25 11:44:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresPolice certificate

Hi Guys..

Hope everyone is doing well... I was a bit premature and applied for my police certificate early and it arrived today!!..
My understanding is that the UK police certificates are valid for one year. Does anybody know whether the UK certificate just needs to be valid for the interview or must it be valid at the time you enter the US..?

Thanks!!

Yes it's good for a year, i think as long as its good for the interview you should be ok, I got mine in may last year & used it for my K3 interview, but just to be on the safe side I sent for a new one for my CR1 interview!!.....but my first one would prolly of been ok as my interview is in April!!...... :yes:
EuroFemale02006-03-28 14:16:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresThis case has been approved.
Yes, that is a great way to start the day.........Congratulations, i'm very happy for you :dance:
EuroFemale02006-03-30 10:30:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMedical on Monday

:bonk: duh on the passports... i know they need those lol.. since they've moved a few times over the past ten years immunization records are proving hard for Crash to get.. he said (poor baby) that they will just have to get whatever shots they have to get.. lol

thanks dixie_peach and everyone else for the good thoughts...

Cari

Well it would be much cheaper for him to get them at his doctors!!.i needed to have tetanus/dip & MMR.(FREE)at my doctors about 80 quid at medical :yes:
EuroFemale02006-04-04 12:26:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMedical on Monday
As said above...............passport(to prove its realy crash & Jr :P ).....and get immunisation record from thier doctors!! :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-04 11:24:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresdivorce
Hey Digi nice to hear from you, its been a while......................sorry to hear about the Divorce, but hey you have to be happy & if thats what it takes!! :yes:
EuroFemale02006-04-02 19:40:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresNO WHITEOUT USED
:P NO WHITEOUT is good, lets hope for a speedy delivery & completion :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-06 10:27:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresVermont Processing dates

Anybody have any idea when the new Vermont Procesing dates will be posted ?

Any day now, they change every 2 weeks give or take a day or 2 :P
EuroFemale02006-04-07 09:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresname change

Right, you lot are probably going to be so sick of me. I know I said that my fiance and I have chosen to go down the CR-1 route, but now because of the time frame of being apart, we may be looking at the K-3. My question is this though, because I am here in the UK, I am not able to legally change my name on my passport and social security card until I get back to the states, what about the paperwork for Ian's application? What name do I use, my old name or my new married name? I have already started filling them out, and got to thinking that nothing will match my married name except for the marriage certificate. Can I get away with using my married name even though I can't legally change it until I get back to the states? Any advice will be helpful. BTW...we are getting married on the 29th of April. I have never been so excited about getting married...even with my first marriage, it was more like going to my death lol.

Cheers for all the help...

Laura and Ian

You can use your Married name, as in with the papers you send with your petition will be YOUR B/C & Marriage certificate!!

I hope you have a GREAT day i'm sure you will :dance:
EuroFemale02006-04-05 09:44:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmarriage certs

Alan, my hubby and I are going through our daughter, who is the petitioner and as such we each have a case number.

I have all the police certs, birth certs, first marriage certs and divorce certs for each of us.

Because we have seperate case numbers, do we have to have TWO marriage certs for our marriage? (1 for each case number) I should imagine that this is the case but I have only just thought about it :unsure:

I know we have a way to go yet but I do like to be "early " with things :yes:

Hiya Val
Treat each case as seperate, therefore seperate documents for each, but what i would do is as you will interview together i would take 1 original & 2 copies, 1 copy for each case!! :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-08 11:32:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDS-3032 (Choice of Agent-form)

We are not using a lawyer. Is it better to have my husband (USC) as the agent to receive the documents or is it faster to have myself as the agent and have them mailed directly to me? Please give me your thoughts and experiences.

Its better to have your hubby as the agent..................have you sent him a DS-3032 yet?...........I sent one to my hubby, and when the time came all he did was write out case number across the top right hand corner, this was no problem at all at NVC!! :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-08 09:04:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWAITING FOR I-130 APPROVAL FOR CR-1/IR-1
UPDATE to add BC_ed's approval...

Member Name.....Date sent..Center....NOA1....RFE/AR.....NOA2........(Days)
Gatorfan........03/22/05..TSC/CSC..04/07/05............07/30/05....114
approvemedamnit.03/31/05..CSC......04/21/05............10/11/05....173
Euro............04/09/05..NSC/CSC..04/21/05............10/11/05....173
wouldubelieveit.04/08/05..VSC......04/21/05............06/28/05....72
Sanctifyer......04/18/05..VSC......04/21/05............07/20/05....91
YamSam..........04/18/05..CSC......05/03/05............10/28/05....178
perdesi.........04/20/05..VSC......04/22/05............08/11/05....111
melliemel.......04/28/05..VSC......04/25/05............07/16/05....95
Muppetpinchess..04/13/05..NSC/CSC..04/28/05............??/??/??....??
MoGuishle ......04/20/05 .NSC/CSC .05/08/05............10/12/05....157
metaledge.......03/29/05..NSC/CSC..05/13/05............??/??/??....??
Nonie...........05/02/05..TSC/CSC..05/13/05............??/??/??....??
Mary13*.........05/05/05..VSC......05/13/05............07/04/05....52
Colombia bound..05/06/05..CSC......05/19/05............08/22/05....96
pathesow........05/01/05..NSC/CSC..05/18/05............??/??/??....??
andrewbrit......04/30/05..CSC .....05/18/05............12/23/05....219
Lyeats..........05/06/05..TSC/CSC..05/19/05............12/12/05....207
yabasta&bella...05/10/05..TSC/CSC..05/23/05............11/30/05....191
Alex___.........05/05/05..CSC......05/24/05............11/09/05....190
gerard..........04/28/05..NSC/CSC..05/24/05............12/21/05....211
Alenushka.......??/??/05..CSC......05/24/05..01/04/06..??/??/06....??
ofelya_tr.......06/11/05..CSC......06/16/05............12/30/05....198
Katheleen.......06/16/05..CSC......06/21/05............01/06/06....199
MGD.............??/??/05..CSC......06/21/05............??/??/??....??
hewjang.........06/10/05..CSC......06/22/05............12/29/05....190
ylime0411.......??/??/??..CSC......07/07/05............??/??/??....??
joyeann.........07/09/05..CSC......07/11/05............01/12/05....185
wilmaron........??/??/05..CSC......07/30/05............01/24/06....178
Chicky..........07/21/05..CSC......08/03/05............01/18/06....168
purple_Hibiscus.07/07/05..CSC......07/16/05............12/22/05....159
Joel/Analyn.....06/??/05..CSC......07/11/05............12/29/05....171
JohnnySpangle...06/16/05..CSC......07/02/05............??/??/??....??
jennyjenny......08/05/05..CSC......08/20/05............01/31/06....163
Germangel.......08/23/05..TSC/CSC..08/29/05............01/25/06....147
PT578...........08/XX/05..CSC......09/02/05............01/27/06....167
nakashima ayumi.08/20/05..NSC/CSC..09/06/05............02/02/06....166
Munchkins.......09/02/05..CSC......09/05/05............??/??/??....??
Bjumanja........09/16/05..NSC/CSC..09/27/05............??/??/??....??
Bc_ed...........09/20/05..NSC/CSC..09/27/05............02/10/06....??
meddykomp.......09/23/05..CSC......10/05/05..12/27/05..??/??/??....??
Drew............10/03/05..CSC......10/14/05............??/??/??....??
aussiewench.....10/08/05..VSC......10/17/05............11/22/05....45
charlie76.......12/24/05..CSC......??/??/06............??/??/??....??
rommelandra.....11/07/05..VSC......11/12/05............01/09/06....58
software........??/??/05..CSC......01/09/06............??/??/??....??
phirephly.......01/17/06..CSC......01/27/06............??/??/??....??

EuroFemale02006-02-11 15:19:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresis that mean it was mailed????



funny ...My husband name is Mark and he also lives in Michigan ..what a coincidence ..
Thank you for replying I can't call yet we didn't recieve the NOA2 my husband may find it in the mail today he is still in his work now ..we will see :huh:

Where in Michigan? we are near Detroit!!
you probably wont get your NOA2 for a few days yet....but you already have your USCIS case number & if memory serves me right they will ask you for that when you call!! :yes:

in Lansing ...But how can I get my USCIS case number????
where do you live in MI?

Your USCIS is the number on your first NOA the one you registered with the USCIS online status site??? e.g WACXXXXXX???
Near Detroit......& summer is on its way to Michigan at last yay :P
EuroFemale02006-04-10 16:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresis that mean it was mailed????

funny ...My husband name is Mark and he also lives in Michigan ..what a coincidence ..
Thank you for replying I can't call yet we didn't recieve the NOA2 my husband may find it in the mail today he is still in his work now ..we will see :huh:

Where in Michigan? we are near Detroit!!
you probably wont get your NOA2 for a few days yet....but you already have your USCIS case number & if memory serves me right they will ask you for that when you call!! :yes:
EuroFemale02006-04-10 15:56:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresis that mean it was mailed????
Maybe........you can call NVC and ask if they have got it yet & they will tell you your case number!!...........but i would give them a couple more days before calling :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-10 15:42:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-864 cover letter

Is this needed? What is it supposed to say?

Joel

But on the other hand i didnt send a cover letter with my I-864 :P .so i would say its optional :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-12 10:23:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresIR-1 worries

hi
had my i-130 approved long ago while i was in US with K3. almost had my I-485 finished but i mistakenly left the US without advance parole and now i have to start all over again.

i send I-824 2 weeks ago and havent heard anything.
getting worried about the whole thing or if i will ever b able to go home again. (i have a house, job, wife n kid in US)

i read that because of i130 approval, i cant get K3 again and have to do IR1. is this true?
do i have to wait for a case number to be assigned or do i already have one with my A number?
how long before i hear from NVC about the IR1 process?

Your K3 is good for 2 years has that time past??
EuroFemale02006-04-15 16:48:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresGoing to visit my wife

Hi everyone,

My i130 was approved and we got a case number at NVC about a week ago. They said in their letter that the paperwork will be sent to me and my wife in a bout 6-8 weeks. I am going to visit my wife in China next week and wanted to know if there is anything I can do while ther (Fill out forms for her-her english is so so) and speed up the process. Anyone knows what forms I should take?

any suggestions would be appriciated

Yes you could get her to fill out the DS-3032 agent form, also you could get her to do the DS-230 part 1, with a copy of the Bio page of her passport!!, the DS-3032 will be sent to her BUT if you already have a copy (as its sent to you too) you can write the case number in the top right corner of the form she has completed & mail it, this is what my husband did with the form i had already got ready!!............The DS-230 requires a barcode sheet for return but if you already have your wife fill out this form then as soon as you recieve the NVC copy you can add the barcoded sheet they have sent you, :thumbs: Thes are the only 2 forms your wife will have to fill out at NVC stage!
EuroFemale02006-04-16 11:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresApply while in the US?


If you do get married in the UK your other half USC will have to apply for a visa to beable to go to the UK to get married!!
as for you coming to the US then sending your I-130 petition, you would only beable to stay for the 90days the VWP allows!!
so do be prepared to return to the UK & wait for the visa to be processed!!
and ALWAYS tell the truth at POE as if not this WILL come back & bite you on the ####### :yes:

I came to the US for a weeks holiday & got married, THEN i returned to the UK to wait out the visa process, i am currently here on a K3, this took 112 days from mailing to getting the actual visa in my passport, i am returning to the UK for my CR1 interview which is 28th April!!

Good Luck on what ever you decide, just becareful not to do anything considered illegal!!!!!!

EDITED to say....i did visit the US while the visa was processing, you just have to be sure you take lotsa evidence to prove ties to the UK!!


oh, you need a visa now just marry on a visit! thats crazy :( but thanks for letting me know.

yep, I know i would have to wait out the full time back in the UK, but if we could have knocked off the first 90 days after getting married, this would be fantastic :)

I would never do anything illegal to mess this up, and I only give the minimal responses at the POE and havent had any problems in 7 years of visits to the US :)

yes its a new law, the USC has to have a vis to get married in the uk, maybe you can find the details some where!!, maybe you could go for a holiday get married while visiting as i did & stay for your 90days & file while your there??, but beaware that if you file the K3 if it gets fast approval you might end up returning sooner than your 90days so you have enough time to arrange medicals etc, also you will need a police certificate this can take 40 days to get, so maybe you can apply for it now, as its good for a year!!
EuroFemale02006-04-17 11:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresApply while in the US?
If you do get married in the UK your other half USC will have to apply for a visa to beable to go to the UK to get married!!
as for you coming to the US then sending your I-130 petition, you would only beable to stay for the 90days the VWP allows!!
so do be prepared to return to the UK & wait for the visa to be processed!!
and ALWAYS tell the truth at POE as if not this WILL come back & bite you on the ####### :yes:

I came to the US for a weeks holiday & got married, THEN i returned to the UK to wait out the visa process, i am currently here on a K3, this took 112 days from mailing to getting the actual visa in my passport, i am returning to the UK for my CR1 interview which is 28th April!!

Good Luck on what ever you decide, just becareful not to do anything considered illegal!!!!!!

EDITED to say....i did visit the US while the visa was processing, you just have to be sure you take lotsa evidence to prove ties to the UK!!

Edited by euro, 17 April 2006 - 10:53 AM.

EuroFemale02006-04-17 10:51:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresI-130 approved before 1-129F
K3-once approved spenda a very short time at NVC just long enough to get a case number, then onto the Embassy/Consulate,where your husband would get the pack 3 pack 4 from, plus he would have to have a medical,( also he needs a medical for I-130), once in the US your husband would have to apply for EAD &AOS which can take a while before he gets a greencard!!

I-130 CR1-married less than 2 years=2 year greencard,you would have to have to lift conditions 90days before the 2nd anniverasary of the date on the card!!, IR1 married more than 2 years =10 year greencard!

The CR1/IR1 visa once approved goes to NVC where it will be processed i.e aos bill IV bill etc, this can take anything from 2 months to 5 months this all depends on you, and the efficency of the paperwork!,your husband would have an interview at the Embassy/Consulate, but upon entry in the US this triggers the Greencard in the mail, which takes anything from a couple of weeks to get in the mail!!

so its up to you which you choose, Good Luck :thumbs:

Edited by euro, 14 April 2006 - 01:30 PM.

EuroFemale02006-04-14 13:26:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresHow long to process I-864?
Take a look at my timeline...it was pretty fast to case complete!! :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-20 10:02:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresTo Staple or Not To Staple

:dance: :dance: I'm FINALLY mailing my I-864 today!! My question is this: When you submitted your tax forms, did you staple the W2 to the transcript? I know stupid question, but I don't want anything to get lost :) I am so excited about even mailing it! :P

I can only tell you what we did, and guess what, we did staple the papers together!!.........and had no problems at all!!
Good Luck on a speedy case complete :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-20 09:32:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresChecklist?
You might find this useful, it does mention the checklist from NVC!!......You will only get a checklist if you have a RFE as i did :thumbs:
http://www.visajourn...wchart_v1-2.pdf

Edited by euro, 20 April 2006 - 11:28 AM.

EuroFemale02006-04-20 11:26:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDecisions decisions decisions

Does it matter how far down the I-130 path I go??? ie. if i do the process and decide not to attend the interview - Would that be okay?

All you would have to do is contact NVC to let them know..................when my case was complete at NVC i wanted to return to England for my visa interview, but was told i could continue & aos in the states if i wanted!!( this was told to me AFTER all processing was dont at nvc) :thumbs:
EuroFemale02006-04-22 17:50:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDS230 Passport Photo

Yeash! Thanks Euro!! I have a copy of his passport!! Thank goodness! Now I will go put it back in the outgoing mail slot :dance: THANK YOU THANK YOU

Your very welcome, not much longer now, :yes: your almost at the end of NVC now you just have to wait for case complete, which is fast!!
EuroFemale02006-04-21 11:13:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDS230 Passport Photo

Just a quick question, do I need to attach a passport photo to the ds230?? I am trying to get it mailed today.. and everywhere there seems to be different information!!

THanks!!

NO, but you do have to send a copy the bio page of the passport,!!.......if your husband didnt send you this, maybe he could copy it & email it to you??

Edited by euro, 21 April 2006 - 11:06 AM.

EuroFemale02006-04-21 11:04:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedureshow long does london take to give you an interview date?
Louise, Angel is right, I emailed to find out when my interview was, i also asked which address they sent the interview letter to, & they had sent it here to me in Michigan, which i have since got!!................so my advice is keep emailing until you get a date, & take a look at my timeline for an idea as to how long you will have to wait!!!
Good Luck :thumbs:

Edited by euro, 22 April 2006 - 09:23 AM.

EuroFemale02006-04-22 09:23:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresInterview?

:D thank you, chicken little.
Anyother question for you. Do you know if it is ok to do medical check for woman during the period? Thank you.

YES its fine!!
EuroFemale02006-04-18 17:56:00