ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
PhilippinesHow to help adjust when here?
QUOTE (Brian and Jopay @ May 26 2009, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My wife misses her job, misses her friends, misses her country.... It takes so long before she can work here, to get work permit. Sigh...


Give her time to adjust in her new life. You are doing everything you can to make her feel home. But it takes time to get settled in a new environment. Once she gets her work permit and finds a job, no more homesickness.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-05-29 11:10:00
PhilippinesSt. Lukes experience/Vaccination question?
QUOTE (Jokris27 @ May 30 2009, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (TripleG @ May 30 2009, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone else chosen or been forced to have there vaccinations done in the U.S? Did this cause any problems at the interview? How expensive are the vaccinations in the U.S.? (estimate figure). Can she still get vaccinated in the RP somewhere else, and use those records upon her arrival to the the U.S.?

My fiance was not allowed to get her vaccinations at St. Lukes. They said because her menstrual cycle was not on a normal schedule they would not immunize her until she had her monthly visitor. They asked her when was the last time she had it? and she got confused on the date? I was present in Manila but not allowed to enter St. Lukes during her medical. I think maybe they where concerned about her being pregnant and not wanting to vaccinate just in case she was. This is just a guess based on some other questions they asked her. I had previously been there to visit her in March also. . ....Anyways not trying to get too personal and share too much, but since this site is to help people stay informed, and to keep others from making the same mistakes so just thought I would share. Knowing the exact dates of your schedule might prevent this from happening to someone else. She had her visitor the day we left Manila, but it was too late because St. Lukes had already forwarded her medical records and Passport to the embassy, the records they forwarded said she would be vaccinated in the U.S.

Also: Her medical was on May 26th and it took all day. She had to go back the next day to see another doctor about her voice due to dammaged vocal cords and a scar that runs through her left eyebrow from an accident she had as a child. She speaks normally, but its obvious she has a hard time making her voice loud....This issue caused a second day of medical but only lasted a half day. The second day consisted mostly of her being asked to count to 10 and estimated 15 times and asked over and over if she ever had TB or a goiter causing her voice to be shallow? Asked over and over what happened to cause the scar on her face. I am not a doctor but I don't understand the big deal they made about her voice, since they have Xrays showing she is clear and I figured they would show any previous TB if she ever had it. Also the eye scar was made into a bigger deal then I would have thought. It doesn't affect her vision and if it didn't run through her eyebrow would barely be visible. In the end they took her passport and gave her an Xray CD with a blank immunization paper stating she chose to be vaccinated in the U.S. even though thats not true, because the truth is they wouldn't allow her to be vaccinated. So I am assuming she passed the medical. Her interview is scheduled for June 10th.


i don't understand the reason why she was not vaccinated because they could easily check whether she's pregnant or not even though she have an irregular menstrual period by doing a pregnancy test, vaccinations given at SLEC are part of the fee that you paid to them, i don't have an idea the exact cost of vaccines in the states but based from reading other people's post it looks kinda expensive, maybe you could call SLEC if she could still receive her vaccines while she's still in the Philippines


Yep, it's kinda expensive the vaccinations here. I have a friend who choosed to take her vaccinations here and her fiancee was upset with because they had to pay close to a thousand dollars to get all her vaccinations here.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-05-30 10:42:00
PhilippinesTourist Visa - Ties - Show Money
QUOTE (Art1 @ May 29 2009, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi,

I am trying to help a friend come to the US for a visit on a tourist visa.

A little background on my friend:

She is married , has 2 young kids, and has a job that she has
held for the last 10 years.

She wants to come for a 4 week visit.

I hope the fact that she is married, has 2 kids and has a job there for the
last 10 years would indicate enough ties to her home country to satisfy
that part of the requirement.

She will be making the trip alone and will say with me part of time and an
other friend the other part of time.

The thing that concerns us is that they do not have bank accounts, and hence will
not have 3 months bank statements to bring to an interview.

Is it really necessary to have a bank account with some balance in it in order
to travel to US on a tourist visa from Philippines?

I know the purpose of this requirement is to prove that she can pay for
entire stay, but, all she really needs is a plane ticket and few hundred
in spending money.

According the US Embassy Website in the Philippines they say they are less
concerned about how the trip will be financed and more concerned about the
binding ties. Is this true? Or does she need to get a bank account, put
some money in it and wait 3 months?

I traveled to Europe for two weeks in 07 with only a plane ticket and $500 cash.
I stayed with friends the whole time, no hotel, expensive hotel meals and services,
etc.

Can a Filippina do the same thing?

A



I don't think so. It's a tough job applying for a tourist visa at the US Embassy in Manila. Your friend must convince the consul that she has a strong tie to the Philippines. Being employed for 10 years is not a guarantee that she will be granted visitor's visa. But your friend can try. A bank account can help her establish her strong ties. Who knows? She might get lucky.

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 29 May 2009 - 11:28 AM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-05-29 11:25:00
PhilippinesDetoxing hair..
QUOTE (maritoni @ Mar 26 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like my long hair. I've always received compliments on it; I like having the option to curl it or straighten it or put it up; and, I admit it, my long hair makes me feel feminine and attractive,and my secret?DETOXING!here is how to do it..You can do it yourself at home..

1 teaspoon vitamin C powder (available at any chemist)
1 teaspoon of cider vinegar
4oz.of hot water

Method
Wash hair with shampoo,rinse well.
Mix all the detoxic ingredients and rinse it through your hair,before applying an organic protein rich conditioner.

Try it girls...very healthy sa buhok:) good.gif



Hi MJ! Pwede na ba yung apple cider instead of apple vinegar? Meron kami apple farm na neighbor dito. They sell apple ciders. My hair is dry, makapal at kahit ano conditioner gamitin wala naman pinagbago. Dry pa rin. Kainis!
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-04-19 22:41:00
PhilippinesCheap place to stay during medical and interview in Manila
QUOTE (Haole @ May 23 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (moparmusclecars @ May 23 2009, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ellmvl @ May 23 2009, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello kababayan ko!

I have an interview date on June 18, 2009 and I am planning to have my medical exam on June 10th. I just wanna ask if anyone here knows a cheap but safe place to stay that is close to St. Luke Med Center for my medical...and a place near the US Embassy for my interview...if possible just a walking distance. I'll be flying there all the way from Davao City, although I've been in Manila several times, still I am not familiar with the place. I just want to have a fix place to check in when I arrive there co'z I don't wanna be carrying my stuff around looking for some place to stay. bwehehe

I will appreciate your suggestions. It would be cool too if you can include the address and contact number. Thank you. God bless everyone...have a blessed Sunday!


I'm having my fiance stay at the Lotus Garden Hotel a 5 minute walk from St Luke's, and I'm having her stay at the Bayview Hotel across the street from the Embassy. I don't feel their prices are out of line either. I'm afraid getting a "cheap" place to say may not also be so safe. Good luck! I' sure others will post their opinions on places to stay also...I don't have their contact numbers handy, but just do a goggle search for each in manila and they will come right up.


Lotus Garden Hotel and Bayview Hotel are nice hotels with reasonable prices.
My wife, daughter and her sis stayed at the Lotus Garden also. Jollibee and MacDonalds across the street. PCs available.
Safe and clean. LOTS of expats stay there when in Manila.
They stayed at Bayview for the interview. Not quite as clean but right across the street from the embassy.


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-05-25 18:32:00
PhilippinesWould it affect my fiancee's K1 VISA with a denied tourist VISA
QUOTE (tutongnakanin @ Aug 28 2008, 05:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It really depends on how she got her denial for a tourist visa. If it's just "not enough ties" to the country she's living at, you do not have to worry. If she got denied coz of fake documents or other fraudulent thing, then you need some explaining to do. I got denied TWICE for a tourist visa for "not enough ties" but were able to get my K1. Be calm and be true to every answer you will give them and you will not have any problem.... Good Luck!


Right. Actions have consequences. Perhaps they will look a little harder at the bonafide relationship thing, but as long as you have plenty of evidence, a good attitude, and didn't do anything wrong, you should be okay. My wife tried for a tourist visa twice, got denied, and still got her K-1 Visa, although a few days late, maybe because of late filed BC.

--Bullwinkle

P.S. There is a spot on one of the forms that asks that question about denied visas. However, during my wife's interview, they did not ask about it.

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 01 February 2009 - 11:24 AM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-01 11:22:00
PhilippinesGot my mind set on you
Hey girls, this is just for fun. I found this video on another Filipino site. PM me if you want to know. star_smile.gif star_smile.gif star_smile.gif


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-05-31 20:22:00
PhilippinesPLS Tulong mga kababayan!..
QUOTE (ROMANTiC COUPLEz @ Jun 2 2009, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Grabe, nman yang mister mo sis! kung mahal k nya baket Lord/Master ang gusto nya itawag mo sa kanya?? and u ano ka?? At kung mahal k tkga ng mister mo baket gnun ang turing nya sau?? prang sex slave?? then pati sis mo pinagnanasaan pah?? gosh!! katakot yan! taz my kung anu anu pang imagination at naiisip gawin.. grabe nman tlga yan..

You know what i think, ikaw mismo makakasolve ng problem mo. mahal kaba tlga nya?? o bka nman ikaw lang ang nagmamahal, mahirap yan..

kung ako sayo iiwan ko n yan, kc baka saktan kp nya kapag d mo naibigay ang gusto nya.. specially ibang bansa to, .. ang gusto ng asawa mo ay maling mali!



OO nga weird naman ang husband mo na yan at napaka-pervert. Okay lang mag-role playing kayo minsan master and servant pero bakit naman threesome ang gusto niya at mag-orgy pa kayo? Hay, hindi naman normal yan sa isang guy. Pero kasal naman na kayo. Bakit naman hindi mo napansin yang preference niya sa sex noong magkasama pa kayo?
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-03 11:15:00
Philippinespictures during the interview
QUOTE (RonMay @ Jun 5 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (angel_0615 @ Jun 5 2009, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are pictures should be in an album(small) or not when you present it during the interview?


i used clear book (not more than 1 inch thick. so its easy to slide on their window)... its better to have a caption too like the date and the place and people in the photos... good luck good.gif

Congratulation on being the new sheriff in town. star_smile.gif

For me, I had to take them out of the album, and give them to the prescreener loose. She only took six of the pictures. She took 6 pieces only of the snail mail, 6 pieces of post cards, and 6 pieces of our emails. She took six copies of everything only.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-05 21:24:00
PhilippinesThe name on your passport and green card
QUOTE (rheanick @ Jun 6 2009, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Rocky_nBullwinkle @ Jun 6 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (David-Mae Forever @ Jun 6 2009, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good for you, Rocky! At least now you're done with the hard part of it. I was looking for the "one and the same" thing at the consulate's website but didn't see any. Is that something that they only have in their office?


Yes, it's something that they make for you there. No forms to be filled out. Just 2 photocopies of your IDs showing your current name or green card and passport. I made photocopies of my old passport and green card on the same page. Pay $25 and they will make the document for you.


Rocky,

Trivial question. What is the paper they use for photocopy. Is it 8 X 11, the normal bond paper. Is the photocopy colored or black in white. I extra photocopies of my passport, ID's and marriage certificate from my AOS application. Would prefer to use them for my passport application.

We used regular 8.5 x 11 copy paper. Bill had to reduce to 90% for the NSO Birth Certificate to make it fit. For the "One and the Same Person", the copy machine at the consulate prints in legal size, 8.5 x 14 I think. It was all black on white. You need copies of your husband's photo ID for the report of marriage too.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-06 10:08:00
PhilippinesThe name on your passport and green card
QUOTE (David-Mae Forever @ Jun 6 2009, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good for you, Rocky! At least now you're done with the hard part of it. I was looking for the "one and the same" thing at the consulate's website but didn't see any. Is that something that they only have in their office?


Yes, it's something that they make for you there. No forms to be filled out. Just 2 photocopies of your IDs showing your current name or green card and passport. I made photocopies of my old passport and green card on the same page. Pay $25 and they will make the document for you.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-06 09:47:00
PhilippinesThe name on your passport and green card
QUOTE (bluemist @ Jun 5 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Rocky_nBullwinkle @ Jun 5 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys! Mr Bill and I went to San Francisco to the Philippine Consulate today to get my passport renewed and report our marriage. We got all the forms online from the Consulate website and filled those out. One copy of the application for renewal with 2 pictures we had done locally and copy of my ID. We also filled out 3 copies of the Report of Marriage document with three copies each of the marriage certficate, of my NSO birth certificate, and of both our passports data page. We also brought with us a USPS Express Mail stamp ($17.50). We got there by 10:30 am.

The first place we stopped was to see the Information Officer. He checked our stuff and he didn't think that the passport pictures we took were good enough. The quality was okay, but we took a blue bed sheet with us for the background and you could see creases and wrinkles on the sheet. So that didn't work.

So we went downstairs at the embassy and got the pictures redone for 12 bucks (2 copies). We went back upstairs and within 5 minutes it was our turn to go to the passport desk. They check all our stuff again and everything was okay. And then she made me sign the forms and took my fingers prints. She also looked at my original documents: Passports, NSO Birth Certificate and Marriage License (Certificate). The last thing she did was to give Mr. Bill a USPS Express Mail envelope to put the stamp we brought with us on the envelope and address it to ourselves because we opted for my passport to be mailed to us instead of driving back to San Francisco in 6 weeks to pick it up.

It was only about 11:30 and we could have left then, but I was still worried about the thing with my name and they suggested we get a One and the same document. So back to the information guy. We photocopied 2 copies of my green card and passport on the same sheet of paper and we got a new number to wait our turn again. About 20 minutes later, we went to the Legal/Visa counter and talked to the guy. He tells us we were bad and I should have put my given name as shown on my birth certificate on my green card. Oh well, so we requested a One And The Same document and head over to cashier and paid an additional $25 on top of the $50 we paid for the passport and $25 for the Report of Marriage.

Then came the long agonizing wait. Two and a half hours laters and both our butts were sore. I guess there's only one guy in the whole consulate that could sign all those documents and he finally showed up. We got out there about 3pm.

We're done. Now we just have to wait. But what's new?


Did you filled out the application form for renewal of passport in your married name or maiden name?Is your passport about to expire or not?Coz my passport (maroon) will expire in 2013 but I want to change it to my married name so when we go to PI for vacation,my passport will be on my married name already.Also I want to report my marriage and do it both at the same time,coz we live far from Phil.Consulate in Fort Lauderdale,FL.We are in Florida too but its 7hours drive to go there.



Yes, my passport has expired and I filled out all the forms in my married name. In your case, you can always get an amendment because your passport is good until 2013. But if you want to use your married name in your passport na, $25 for amendment and $50 for a new passport. Either one, but you still need to do a report of marriage and that's $25 too. Do the report of marriage, and the amendment or a new passport at the same time if I were you.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-06 09:45:00
PhilippinesThe name on your passport and green card
Hi guys! Mr Bill and I went to San Francisco to the Philippine Consulate today to get my passport renewed and report our marriage. We got all the forms online from the Consulate website and filled those out. One copy of the application for renewal with 2 pictures we had done locally and copy of my ID. We also filled out 3 copies of the Report of Marriage document with three copies each of the marriage certficate, of my NSO birth certificate, and of both our passports data page. We also brought with us a USPS Express Mail stamp ($17.50). We got there by 10:30 am.

The first place we stopped was to see the Information Officer. He checked our stuff and he didn't think that the passport pictures we took were good enough. The quality was okay, but we took a blue bed sheet with us for the background and you could see creases and wrinkles on the sheet. So that didn't work.

So we went downstairs at the embassy and got the pictures redone for 12 bucks (2 copies). We went back upstairs and within 5 minutes it was our turn to go to the passport desk. They check all our stuff again and everything was okay. And then she made me sign the forms and took my fingers prints. She also looked at my original documents: Passports, NSO Birth Certificate and Marriage License (Certificate). The last thing she did was to give Mr. Bill a USPS Express Mail envelope to put the stamp we brought with us on the envelope and address it to ourselves because we opted for my passport to be mailed to us instead of driving back to San Francisco in 6 weeks to pick it up.

It was only about 11:30 and we could have left then, but I was still worried about the thing with my name and they suggested we get a One and the same document. So back to the information guy. We photocopied 2 copies of my green card and passport on the same sheet of paper and we got a new number to wait our turn again. About 20 minutes later, we went to the Legal/Visa counter and talked to the guy. He tells us we were bad and I should have put my given name as shown on my birth certificate on my green card. Oh well, so we requested a One And The Same document and head over to cashier and paid an additional $25 on top of the $50 we paid for the passport and $25 for the Report of Marriage.

Then came the long agonizing wait. Two and a half hours laters and both our butts were sore. I guess there's only one guy in the whole consulate that could sign all those documents and he finally showed up. We got out there about 3pm.

We're done. Now we just have to wait. But what's new?


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-05 21:05:00
PhilippinesThe name on your passport and green card
Hello guys! I have a question. When my husband and I applied for AOS in December 2007, I changed my first name in my green card from "Ma." to "Marie". And now, my passport has expired. I am going to apply for a passport renewal with amendment of last name in San Francisco on Friday because I am going back to Manila in January 2010. I know that the DFA will go by the name in my birth certificate. There lies the problem. I have different first names in my passport and green card. Anybody here who has the same case like mine? I would appreciate your replies. Gracias.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-03 14:11:00
Philippineshelp me very sad
Forever Love,

It's back to the drawing board for you and your husband. You're gonna have to start all over again if you really want to be reunited in the United States. It's pretty tough, but you got the ace in the hole -- you're married. Be optimistic. If there's a will, there's a way. Don't lose hope.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-07 20:23:00
Philippines7 year anullment
Causes for Fraud Investigation:

b. Fraudulent Declaration Of Presumptive Death of Absentee Spouse:



Under Article 41 of the Philippine Family Code, for a present spouse to contract a valid subsequent marriage due to the absence of his or her spouse for four (4) consecutive years [or only two (2) years in case of disappearance under circumstances showing danger of death], with the present spouse having a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead, a summary proceeding for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee must be instituted.



The fraud consists of obtaining such a declaration of presumptive death of an absentee spouse from a judge in a case where the “absentee spouse” is really present and alive.


Rocky
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-06 09:34:00
Philippines7 year anullment
QUOTE (barenaked @ Feb 6 2009, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you still have to file a case using the reason of presumptive death. You can't just say that you havent seen your husband and thats it.

to makes things clearer read the article below:


The Family Code clearly provides that a court declaration of presumptive death of a spouse is indispensable before the other spouse may marry again. Failure to comply with this requirement results not only in a void second marriage, but also opens the guilty spouse to a criminal charge of bigamy. Article 41 of the Family Code reads:

Art. 41. A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the Civil Code, an absence of only two years shall be sufficient.

For the purpose of contracting the subsequent marriage under the preceding paragraph the spouse present must institute a summary proceeding as provided in this Code for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee, without prejudice to the effect of reappearance of the absent spouse.

In other words, an absence of 4 years, it being unknown whether the other spouse is still alive and the present spouse has a well-founded belief that the missing spouse is already dead, is a ground to ask the court for a declaration of presumptive death (this is a summary proceeding, not a special proceeding). The 4-year period, however, is reduced to 2 years in the following circumstances:

1. A person on board a vessel lost during a sea voyage, or an aeroplane which is missing, who has not been heard of for [two] years since the loss of the vessel or aeroplane.

2. A person in the armed forces who has taken part in a war, and has been missing for [two] years.

3. A person who has been in danger of death under other circumstances and his existence has not been known for [two] years.

There are 4 requisites for the declaration of presumptive death under Article 41 of the Family Code:

1. That the absent spouse has been missing for four consecutive years, or two consecutive years if the disappearance occurred where there is danger of death under the circumstances laid down in Article 391, Civil Code.

2. That the present spouse wishes to remarry.

3. That the present spouse has a well-founded belief that the absentee is dead.

4. That the present spouse files a summary proceeding for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee.

As mentioned above, failure to seek a judicial declaration of presumptive death opens a party who contracts a second marriage to a charge of bigamy. The reason is this -

In a real sense, there are three parties to every civil marriage; two willing spouses and an approving State. On marriage, the parties assume new relations to each other and the State touching nearly on every aspect of life and death. The consequences of an invalid marriage to the parties, to innocent parties and to society, are so serious that the law may well take means calculated to ensure the procurement of the most positive evidence of death of the first spouse or of the presumptive death of the absent spouse after the lapse of the period provided for under the law. One such means is the requirement of the declaration by a competent court of the presumptive death of an absent spouse as proof that the present spouse contracts a subsequent marriage on a well-grounded belief of the death of the first spouse. Indeed, “men readily believe what they wish to be true,” is a maxim of the old jurists. To sustain a second marriage and to vacate a first because one of the parties believed the other to be dead would make the existence of the marital relation determinable, not by certain extrinsic facts, easily capable of forensic ascertainment and proof, but by the subjective condition of individuals. Only with such proof can marriage be treated as so dissolved as to permit second marriages. Thus, Article 349 of the Revised Penal Code has made the dissolution of marriage dependent not only upon the personal belief of parties, but upon certain objective facts easily capable of accurate judicial cognizance, namely, a judgment of the presumptive death of the absent spouse.

To be sure, this appears to be a relatively easier way of contracting another marriage. The problem, however, is that the second marriage is easily voided by the appearance of the “absentee” spouse (void ab initio or void from the beginning if both parties to the second marriage contracted the marriage in “bad faith”). The Family Code provides:

Art. 42. The subsequent marriage referred to in the preceding Article shall be automatically terminated by the recording of the affidavit of reappearance of the absent spouse, unless there is a judgment annulling the previous marriage or declaring it void ab initio.

A sworn statement of the fact and circumstances of reappearance shall be recorded in the civil registry of the residence of the parties to the subsequent marriage at the instance of any interested person, with due notice to the spouses of the subsequent marriage and without prejudice to the fact of reappearance being judicially determined in case such fact is disputed.

So, is a judicial declaration of presumptive death better than seeking an annulment or a declaration of nullity of the second marriage? There are no hard and fast rules. Suffice it to state that “the automatic termination of the second marriage upon the reappearance of the absent or missing spouse is a risk that the paties to said marriage knew they were taking when they entered into such marriage, so that if it does happen, they have no reason to complain” (Justice Alicia Sempio-Diy, Handbook on the Family Code of the Philippines).


There is your problem. The other spouse is not dead, and the FPU will investigate any summary judgement of presumptive death, if indeed you could get a judge to grant it.

Rocky
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-06 09:26:00
Philippines7 year anullment
Here is the section of Philippine law that keeps getting referred to:

Art. 41. A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the Civil Code, an absence of only two years shall be sufficient.

For the purpose of contracting the subsequent marriage under the preceding paragraph the spouse present must institute a summary proceeding as provided in this Code for the declaration of presumptive death of the absentee, without prejudice to the effect of reappearance of the absent spouse. (83a)

Art. 42. The subsequent marriage referred to in the preceding Article shall be automatically terminated by the recording of the affidavit of reappearance of the absent spouse, unless there is a judgment annulling the previous marriage or declaring it void ab initio.

A sworn statement of the fact and circumstances of reappearance shall be recorded in the civil registry of the residence of the parties to the subsequent marriage at the instance of any interested person, with due notice to the spouses of the subsequent marriage and without prejudice to the fact of reappearance being judicially determined in case such fact is disputed. (n)


Rocky


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-05 23:46:00
Philippines7 year anullment
QUOTE (yan @ Feb 5 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (barenaked @ Feb 5 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe whats shes trying to say is "presumptive death"


"When you use presumptive death to terminate the marriage, you will be declared a widow when your petition is granted by the court. This process is actually shorter than an anullment, however the court is strict when it comes to the proofs of evidence to be presented . There is a certain period of time. . 4 years under ordinary circumstances and 2 years under extra-ordinary circumstances that you have not heard or seen your husband before you can file the petition. Also, you must prove to the court that you exerted due diligence in trying to contact or locate your husband before you file the petition. If you meet these requirements, go see a lawyer and file the petition.

Presumptive death is one of the ways to terminate the marriage under our laws and as long as it is annotated in your Marriage Certificate, I am sure it will be recognized by the US embassy."

A BIG NOT TRUE.


Absolutely! Unless the husband from the previous marriage can not be found at all, then this is a dead end. This would almost guarantee a referral to the Fraud Investigation Unit. And, if the FPU can locate him, then you will never get your fiancee to the US.

Rocky
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-05 22:42:00
Philippines7 year anullment
Art. 36. A marriage contracted by any party who, at the time of the celebration, was psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage, shall likewise be void even if such incapacity becomes manifest only after its solemnization.

Article 45 generally encompasses the specific means whereby you can get an annullment. However, this is why you need a lawyer. This clause (Article 36) is so broad you can drive a Jeepney through it, but it takes a lawyer to make the argument.

Rocky
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-05 22:35:00
Philippines7 year anullment
QUOTE (jfiala @ Feb 5 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a women in the Philippines that I want to marry but is already married to another philipine man but they have been seperated for 31/2 year. she told me if she is separated from him for 7 years she is free to marry again is this true?




IT"S NOT TRUE. You cannot get marry unless she get an annulment decree from the court. Tell her to get a lawyer to help her file an annnulment. There is no such thing as DIVORCE in the Philippines. Annulment is only granted under specific grounds as provided for under Article 45 of the Family Code of the Philippines.


Art. 45. A marriage may be annulled for any of the following causes, existing at the time of the marriage:

(1) That the party in whose behalf it is sought to have the marriage annulled was eighteen years of age or over but below twenty-one, and the marriage was solemnized without the consent of the parents, guardian or person having substitute parental authority over the party, in that order, unless after attaining the age of twenty-one, such party freely cohabited with the other and both lived together as husband and wife;

(2) That either party was of unsound mind, unless such party after coming to reason, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;

(3) That the consent of either party was obtained by fraud, unless such party afterwards, with full knowledge of the facts constituting the fraud, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;

(4) That the consent of either party was obtained by force, intimidation or undue influence, unless the same having disappeared or ceased, such party thereafter freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;

(5) That either party was physically incapable of consummating the marriage with the other, and such incapacity continues and appears to be incurable; or

(6) That either party was afflicted with a sexually-transmissible disease found to be serious and appears to be incurable. (85a)

Rocky

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 05 February 2009 - 06:42 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-05 18:41:00
PhilippinesIs it safe to bring chocolate in the philippines from usa
QUOTE (maritoni @ Jun 8 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Rocky_nBullwinkle @ Jun 9 2009, 05:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LBC Mundial Corporation. I shipped them together with other stuff for $65 in a big box. That's it.

My Husband is looking for a shipping company or door to door in Idaho but he couldn't find any ....is the big box the JUmbo Box Marie?


Right! LBC mundial is everywhere in CA. There's got to be one door to door in Idaho. Door to door companies stay pretty close to the Filipino stores.

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 08 June 2009 - 07:17 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-08 19:14:00
PhilippinesIs it safe to bring chocolate in the philippines from usa
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QUOTE (Rocky_nBullwinkle @ Jun 9 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (gabrielle08 @ Jun 8 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (maritoni @ Jun 8 2009, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is safe dear star_smile.gif



thanks and what about the vitamins?


I shipped a bunch of multivitamins and calcium supplements to my mom and dad in the Philippines every three months. I also sent mom another bunch of mutivitamins and calcium supplements through my friend when he came to see his fiancee in Manila. Guess the vitamins are okay.


Rocky,

How do you ship vitamins to the Philippines... via USPS? There is a particular vitamins here in the US that my mom prefer. I would like to ship some vitamins to her.



LBC Mundial Corporation. I shipped them together with other stuff for $65 in a big box. That's it.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-08 15:00:00
PhilippinesIs it safe to bring chocolate in the philippines from usa
QUOTE (gabrielle08 @ Jun 8 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (maritoni @ Jun 8 2009, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is safe dear star_smile.gif



thanks and what about the vitamins?


I shipped a bunch of multivitamins and calcium supplements to my mom and dad in the Philippines every three months. I also sent mom another bunch of mutivitamins and calcium supplements through my friend when he came to see his fiancee in Manila. Guess the vitamins are okay.


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-08 11:47:00
Philippinesneed help
QUOTE (foreverlove @ Jun 9 2009, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys i know u read my story what happen during interviewed ,thank you so much for all the advices and the sympathy of my worst experienced ..anyway maybe God has plan for us and maybe not time yet but honestly im still not recover yet...u know even its hurt and my prayers not all answered yet im just thankful that my husband his coming next week here in the philippines after long time its more than 1 year now...ok thanks again ...anyway has anyone here can recommend a good lawyer for us to help our problem and that would be nice if u have one


A lot of good lawyers in the Philippines. They are everywhere.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-09 09:17:00
Philippinesneed ur help..
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QUOTE (babykim @ Jun 9 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i got problem on my baptismal because insted my family name is LUNGAT they put it there LUNGOT and insted my birthdate is on july 11 they put it july 27.it be big work for me to did it right again.im having my interview this coming next week.i just want to ask people who already having there interview done.the consul will be necesary to ask the baptismal?pls rply me asap i need to know early before its to late..thanks for the reply and i appreciate it a lot.


they did not ask baptismal during my interview smile.gif


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Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-09 09:19:00
Philippinesbirth certificate
QUOTE (DEFA17 @ Jun 5 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also she is in Angeles now so if anyone from the area can help me out it would be great

N.M.

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 05 June 2009 - 09:30 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-05 21:27:00
PhilippinesGoldilocks
QUOTE (SMOKE @ Jun 9 2009, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my wifes birthday is coming soon. i wanted to get some of her favorite Goldilocks snack cookies/chips. we live in Oklahoma, so i'm going to have to order online from LA or Las Vegas. i can't remember the name of the cookie/snack that she loves so much & i can't find a pic of the bag on the websites. can you guys/ladies help me out here? i need to know the name.

they come in a big yellow bag. they are sweet & chrunchy & they look like french bread sliced diagonally. i want to say it starts with a B like bisquites or something like that.


Broas or barquillos? blink.gif
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-09 19:49:00
PhilippinesPinay in trouble
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QUOTE (ANGKANO @ Jun 9 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey all, Since my wife got here we visited her sis-in-law. They live in the boondocks and he is very verbaly abusive and won't let her go anywhere and now as they started her AOS(she is on K-3) he is refusing to provide proof of relationship such as bank acct, ect.She is here with her two kids who both have their 10yr grn cards. Anyway,the husband has kicked her out of the house when they argue about needing the proof for AOS. The kids are staying with us for now. How can the Mother adjust status without the other proofs? Does the ongoing abuse come into play? Thanks for any input.


Get a divorce. star_smile.gif


Wow, are you a divorce atty? How can you dish out such glib advice like that so quickly? Do you make such quick decisions in important matters like this in your own life? Very impressive if you are always right but....Is anyone always right?? blink.gif


I'm not. I wish I am. Just my two cents worth. Chill out. It's not the end of the world yet. Who knows?

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 09 June 2009 - 10:38 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-09 22:36:00
PhilippinesPinay in trouble
QUOTE (ANGKANO @ Jun 9 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey all, Since my wife got here we visited her sis-in-law. They live in the boondocks and he is very verbaly abusive and won't let her go anywhere and now as they started her AOS(she is on K-3) he is refusing to provide proof of relationship such as bank acct, ect.She is here with her two kids who both have their 10yr grn cards. Anyway,the husband has kicked her out of the house when they argue about needing the proof for AOS. The kids are staying with us for now. How can the Mother adjust status without the other proofs? Does the ongoing abuse come into play? Thanks for any input.


Get a divorce. star_smile.gif
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-09 22:16:00
PhilippinesPista Sa Nayon
We are also having a Filipino Fiesta this Sunday, near Santa Rosa, California, at the Filipino-American Community Center on Fulton Road. If you can't make to Seattle, and live near Sonoma County, you are welcome.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-06-10 15:14:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
After a mock trial at Fort Santiago on February 15, 1872, they were sentenced to die by means of the garrote, a Spanish strangulation by an iron collar tightened by a screw. On February 17, 1872, they were executed in Bagumbayan, now the Luneta.

My hubby says this was from the National Bookstore.

P.S.
Itakder tayo ti bandera ti Ilocano. Nalalaing amin nga Ilocano.

--- Rocky

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-10 22:59:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
The Spanish Regime in the Philippines Before the Revolution.

There were formerly in Manila Latinity schools where that language was taught together with a little Spanish, the only mandatory requirements for the study of philosophy, theology and jurisprudence in the University of Santo Thomas, run by the Dominicans. The Philippine priests and lawyers who were Burgos's contemporaries, with the exception of sons of Spaniards, knew Latin perfectly well but hardly any Spanish because the educational system was wholly religious. Of those few Filipinos who had enough financial resources to study in Manila, the majority studied for the priesthood because the friars looked askance at lawyers while priests were held in high esteem by the natives. Later, in order to discourage young Filipinos from going to Spain or elsewhere abroad for studies not available in Manila,, there to pick up liberal and irreligious ideas, the friars amended the educational structure and opened medical and pharmaceutical schools, believing that they could thus at least choose the textbooks and teachers most suitable to their purposes: between. two unavoidable evils, the lesser was to be preferred. However, such was the thirst for knowledge and learning that many scions of wealthy families preferred to study in Spain and travel about Europe. Among those who went abroad for the express purpose of working for the improvement of the political situation of the Filipinos, Don Jose Rizal, a medical student, and Don Marcelo H. del Pilar, a Bulacan lawyer persecuted by his town's parish priest, deserve special mention.

From the political point of view the Philippines was then in a deplorable state. As a mere Spanish possession it did not enjoy constitutional guarantees, so that the King, through the Minister of the Colonies, the member of his government responsible for these matters, had in his hands, the whole of the legislative and executive power. In so far as he also appointed and transferred justices and judges at his discretion, he was also the absolute head of the judicial branch. He was represented in the archipelago by the governor general of the Philippines, who was always, a military man with the rank of lieutenant-general or captain-general in the army, and who exercised dictatorial authority to suspend at his discretion the enforcement of the decrees issued. by the Colonial Ministry when in his judgment they were prejudicial to peace and order in the islands; to banish any citizen or compel him to change his place of residence without being heard in his own defense; to prohibit the public ation or importation into the archipelago of books, pamphlets and articles not approved by the official censors; to search domiciles and correspondence without judicial warrant; to prohibit associations and assemblies for political purposes, as well as the exercise of any religion except the Roman Catholic: in brief, to prohibit the exercise of all those natural rights, older than any human law, which are due to any citizen. Thus the country was in effect in a permanent state of war, although peace had reigned everywhere for three centuries.

The governor general was also commander-in-chief of the army in the Philippines. As viceregal patron he appointed all parish priests and other ecclesiastical employees. He was assisted in his multiple functions, although with more independence and greater powers than ordinary secretaries, by the director general of the public treasury, in affairs pertaining to this field; the director general of civil administration, in affairs pertaining to police, public works, communications, agriculture, industry, commerce, mines, forests, public instruction and others; and by the deputy commander-in-chief in military matters.

The governor himself assisted by the executive secretary, handled official business outside the jurisdiction of the said officials. An Administrative Council had been established to advise him on matters of great weight and importance, and he could also convoke the Council of State, composed, in addition to the high officials already mentioned, of the chief commandant of the naval station and squadron, the archbishop of Manila, and the president of the Manila high court.

All the departments and provincial governments were staffed with peninsular Spaniards, personnel unfamiliar with the country and relieved every time there was a cabinet change (in Madrid). Very few Filipinos secured employment as army officers, as officials in the civil administration, or as judges and prosecuting attorneys. A few Filipinos, more outstanding for their wealth than for their learning, just recently served as members of the Administrative Council, but these positions were unpaid and besides the body was purely advisory in nature. Every government employee tried to make the most of the short time he usually had in office so that dismissal should not catch him unprovided for. In every government centre or branch office the employees covered up for one another because if any of them were to be brought to book their whole class and race would be dishonoured. Any Filipino who denounced the abuses of the Spanish officials and friars was persecuted as a subversive. The archipela go was not represented in the Spanish parliament.

There was no representative municipal government except only in the city of Manila. Town mayors merely collected taxes and enforced the orders of the provincial authorities. They could repair highways with forced labour, but otherwise hand neither funds nor authority to undertake other public works. A mayor was not the leader of his community but only the servant of the town's parish priest and constabulary commanding officer.

Source
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-06 19:06:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
Cause and Effect of the execution of Fathers Burgos, Gomez and Zamora


But such isolation was practicable only so long as the Europeans had to go by the Cape of Good Hope or the Straits of Magellan in order to reach the Far East, and before steam and electric, power had shortened distances. With the opening of the Suez Canal, the Philippines too was opened to the commerce of the civilized world. As a free and civilized nation, Spain was ashamed to imitate China by forbidding the islands to foreigners; besides, it did not have sufficient, strength to compel the great powers, if the need should arise, to abide by such a decision. Thanks to the increasing ease of communications events in Europe were already echoing in the ears of the Filipinos who, excited by these novelties, were beginning to think anew. Their awakening became even more thorough when the Filipino secular clergy, led by Father Burgos, appealed to the Spanish throne and Rome for the recovery of the parishes which the Spanish government had taken from them and given to the friars, confining the mselves to missionary work, should turn over all parishes to the Spanish and Filipino secular clergy in accordance with canon law. Since the friars were bound to lose the case because the petition was just and lawful, they put it about that the claimants were really agitators whose aim was to seize the parishes in order to organize an insurrection against the Spanish regime in the Philippines, The religious Orders claimed to be the sole support of Spanish rule and that, if they were removed from the parishes, the whole regime would come tumbling down, citing the precedent of the Mexican revolution which had been started by secular parish priests.

At this stage of the controversy, the garrison of the Cavite Arsenal mutinied. The ringleaders of the clerical dispute, offended because their claims had not been fairly met, were beyond any doubt, said their enemies, also the ringleaders of the insurrection and, as such, they. were condemned to death. The trial was held amid great mystery and secrecy; the sentence was hastily carried out; afterward it was forbidden to speak of the affair; and for these reasons no Filipino believed, or now believes, in the guilt of the executed priests.

Although Burgos and his companions, Gomez and Zamora, had worked for the rights, of a particular class and not of: the people as a whole, yet had they asked for justice, and died for having asked. True, already on the scaffold, Burgos still. could not understand why he should die, being innocent; which proves that he had not before then thought it possible that he should have to sacrifice his life for the cause he defended. But these were Christian priests, and they died like Christ, slandered by the friar-scribes, because they had sought to take away from the friars the administration of the parishes, the seat of their, power and influence over :the masses and the principal source of their wealth. So it is that the Filipinos keep them in grateful and imperishable memory, and the people venerate them as martyrs to justice.

The Spanish Government did not know and did not want to know anything about the friars in the Philippines or about the Filipinos. They first, in possession of the parishes, were in continuous contact with the latter, and informed against their personal enemies as enemies of Spain, handing them over to the constabulary to be tortured, and to the authorities to be banished. Those in authority who refused to do what the friars wished lost their jobs, and the most liberal minister in Spain, when in powers did whatever the friars wanted. The friars wanted to make an example of Burgos and his companions so that the Filipinos should be afraid to go against them from then on. But that patent injustice, that official crime, aroused not fear but hatred of the friars and of the regime that supported them, and a profound sympathy and sorrow for the victims. This sorrow worked a miracle: it made the Filipinos realize their condition for the first time. Conscious of pain, and thus conscious of life, they asked themselves what kind of a life they lived. The awakening was painful, and working to stay alive more painful still, but one must live. How? They did not know, and the desire to know, the anxiety to learn, overwhelmed and took possession of the youth of the Philippines. The curtain of ignorance woven diligently for centuries was rent at last: fiat lux, let there be light, would not be long in coming, the dawn of a new day was nearing.


Source
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-05 20:38:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
QUOTE (AJAnTESS @ Feb 3 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no one who, more than a century ago, would have perceived the problems of de-colonization with such sharpness as Rizal had. The politicians - of the Mother Country as well as of the liberated countries - could have avoided such mistakes through the study of José Rizal!


I think Apolinario Mabini was much more of pragmatist than Rizal, from what I have read. Of course, Mabini had the opportunity to indulge his ideas in later life, something the Spanish did not let Rizal do! What would have happened, had Mabini prevailed in his vision for the Philipines, instead of his being cloistered away in a library? He always thought it was better to have a rich uncle, rather than a doting mother!

Food for thought, from a Kano.

--Bullwinkle

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 03 February 2009 - 10:11 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 22:07:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
QUOTE (mariquita linda @ Feb 3 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rocky, you finished law school at the University of Manila, did you not?


Yep. 2007.

Rocky


Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 22:00:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
OO nga eh. That was the first picture I found in the Google search that looked anything like the little Nipa hut in Rizal's backyard.

Rocky

P.S.
Bullwinkle said it looks like a gazebo too.
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 21:13:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
Wow, I didn't know the house was already renovated. The first and the last time I saw that house, it was different from what you described here. That was a long time ago in the late 80's anyway.



A girl with piercing blue eyes. Bracken was born in Hong Kong on August 9, 1876 to Irish parents, James Bracken, a corporal in the British Army, Elizabeth Jane McBride who married on May 3, 1868 in Belfast, Ireland. When her mother died shortly after childbirth, she was adopted by an American named George Taufer.


So I guess we are both right. She was an American born of Irish parents in Hong Kong.

Rocky
Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 20:58:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
I took that Rizal course in college, but I never paid attention to what our professor was saying. Instead of listening, I was mooning over him. He's kind of cute and smart anyway. laughing.gif Everybody got a crush on him. laughing.gif

Anyway, reading Rizal's life and writings based on the college text book (Rizal's life and writings) we used, IMO, he was like many of his idealist Filipino contemporaries, except that he came from a rich family. He made a lot of travels abroad to further his studies. He just wants a better life for the Filipino people and that is why he used his writings to voice his objections instead of taking arms againts the Spanish. Of course, he was a frail man, small in stature, but big in ideals.

I went to visit my cousin in Calamba Laguna and we went to see Rizal's ancestral home. Calamba is a tourist destination. You will get a grand tour of Rizal's home as a child for a small fee which was quite an experience for me during that time. It somehow gave me a glimpse of Rizal's childhood by looking at that little Nipa hut sitting in the backyard. According to his biography, he and his siblings used to play in that little Nipa hut.



Rocky

P.S.
Rizal was also like any red-blooded guy. He had a lot of girlfriends before he married Josephine Bracken, an American girl.

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 03 February 2009 - 08:31 PM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 20:30:00
PhilippinesPinay Ako!
QUOTE (Completely @ Feb 2 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is interesting I guess but i just did not like the idea of sharing opinion in other foreign language other than english and tagalog..
Knowing and not forgetting where we came from is a great thing, but being so proud that results to disrespect to other races or nationality is not right at all... People can tell where we came from, what races are we, we dont have to be real proud and disrespectful to other people and compare ourselves to them. Just the way we look, the way we carry ourselves, people knows we are from the Philippines

Cheers!


Welcome to the history class! Before English and Tagalog became the official languages for the Philippines, Spanish was the official language of the Philippines for 300 years. I had been providing, and will continue to provide English translations for anything posted here in Spanish.

--Bullwinkle

I will do the same for Tagalog. Tagalog is not universally spoken in the Philippines, even in Manila, or here on VJ.

--Rocky

Edited by Rocky_nBullwinkle, 03 February 2009 - 11:23 AM.

Rocky_nBullwinkleFemalePhilippines2009-02-03 11:19:00