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PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Pinay Wife @ Aug 19 2009, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 18 2009, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wag mo nalang pansinin yung iba kasi bini-bait ka lng nyan. walang magawa sa buhay... yung asawa dati, yung id ko is weird kasi come_again lol... i remember those days na wala pang phil forum at nakikisiksik tayo sa isang thread... at is miss patientlywaiting o ate cora gumagawa ng listahan at super delay din yung process nila (am i right ate cora?) i think mas na nauna pa ako sayo dumating dito coz of your case... hindi ko na maalala tagal na nun pero nakakamiss

Oo nga, nagpapapansin, wala na ngang pumapatol sa kanya. Pag kinuyog ng mga Pinay yan, yari siya.


hahahaha.. Oo nga.. kc parang kilalang kilala niya lahat ng pinay.
Ang galing nga,. sabi niya alam na daw nya lahat.. ok fine. hahahah
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:52:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 19 2009, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 19 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (Pinay Wife @ Aug 19 2009, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and if all of these are too fast for everyone to happen., I guess, we're different then..

Don't worry nydvo. Mine is faster. Hubby and I met in November 2005 and by February 2006, we were engaged. Filed the K1 in April 2006. So far, so good. I have not turned out to be a scammer/fraudster/monster Filipina wife girlwerewolf2xn.gif

I like your attitude, cool ka lang. Hang in there and everything will turn out fine. I will be following your journey. Good luck and all the best!


hi Pinaywife.,
thank u..

I still remember u when you were still PatientlyWaiting.. I was even a part of your update list.,.my name before was Larrymai. that was 2006..years ago.. that list was fun.. i have the same timeline with Roy and Yaz (sunandmoon, i think)., I met Roy's wife personally coz she's from davao too... Ohh. those were the days..lol..

Thanks again!>..



larrymai??? very very very familiar lol... were u a member of the old asawa forum too??? closed na sila ngayon (2006) pa ata sila closed lol



Yup..!! thats me!! larrymai it was!!.. hahhahha. member of asawa forum, member here, and presently member of TWOF too...

bilis ng panahon noh?!


wag mo nalang pansinin yung iba kasi bini-bait ka lng nyan. walang magawa sa buhay... yung asawa dati, yung id ko is weird kasi come_again lol... i remember those days na wala pang phil forum at nakikisiksik tayo sa isang thread... at is miss patientlywaiting o ate cora gumagawa ng listahan at super delay din yung process nila (am i right ate cora?) i think mas na nauna pa ako sayo dumating dito coz of your case... hindi ko na maalala tagal na nun pero nakakamiss


Oo nga eh.. hahayaan na nga lang iba jan.. kahit anong explanation pa gawin ko, wala din..
anywyz, oo nga. naalala ko yung wala pa tayong sariling thread, hanggang nabigyan din tayo ng sariling Philippine thread..

nakakamiss nga yung dati., kc ,. supportive talaga mga couples before.. ewan ko ngayon, bakit nagkaganito.. smile.gif
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:48:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Pinay Wife @ Aug 19 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still remember u when you were still PatientlyWaiting.. I was even a part of your update list.,.my name before was Larrymai. that was 2006..years ago.. that list was fun.. i have the same timeline with Roy and Yaz (sunandmoon, i think)., I met Roy's wife personally coz she's from davao too... Ohh. those were the days..lol..

Oh, wow, talaga? And yes, those were the days. Very supportive ang mga Pinays noon unlike ngayon na maraming mga intrigero at intrigera laughing.gif pero it makes the forum more interesting. I think I also read your story at WOF (ikaw ba yun?). The other Pinays were worried about you when you did not communicate for a few days. They thought the worst has happened. I'm glad you got out of that abusive relationship.


Yup. That was me. Some members tried to contact me and wanna know whats going on at the time., coz everytime i was sent to the motel, my exhusband will disable the outgoing calls.., Blessing in disguise and very resourceful filipinas in the forum still were able to locate me.. and that was a very rough time, but felt so good when u know that someone cared , even to hear them on the phone that they want me to be ok. I still owe it all to them..
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:43:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 19 2009, 10:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Pinay Wife @ Aug 19 2009, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and if all of these are too fast for everyone to happen., I guess, we're different then..

Don't worry nydvo. Mine is faster. Hubby and I met in November 2005 and by February 2006, we were engaged. Filed the K1 in April 2006. So far, so good. I have not turned out to be a scammer/fraudster/monster Filipina wife girlwerewolf2xn.gif

I like your attitude, cool ka lang. Hang in there and everything will turn out fine. I will be following your journey. Good luck and all the best!


hi Pinaywife.,
thank u..

I still remember u when you were still PatientlyWaiting.. I was even a part of your update list.,.my name before was Larrymai. that was 2006..years ago.. that list was fun.. i have the same timeline with Roy and Yaz (sunandmoon, i think)., I met Roy's wife personally coz she's from davao too... Ohh. those were the days..lol..

Thanks again!>..



larrymai??? very very very familiar lol... were u a member of the old asawa forum too??? closed na sila ngayon (2006) pa ata sila closed lol



Yup..!! thats me!! larrymai it was!!.. hahhahha. member of asawa forum, member here, and presently member of TWOF too...

bilis ng panahon noh?!


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:39:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Pinay Wife @ Aug 19 2009, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 18 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and if all of these are too fast for everyone to happen., I guess, we're different then..

Don't worry nydvo. Mine is faster. Hubby and I met in November 2005 and by February 2006, we were engaged. Filed the K1 in April 2006. So far, so good. I have not turned out to be a scammer/fraudster/monster Filipina wife girlwerewolf2xn.gif

I like your attitude, cool ka lang. Hang in there and everything will turn out fine. I will be following your journey. Good luck and all the best!


hi Pinaywife.,
thank u..

I still remember u when you were still PatientlyWaiting.. I was even a part of your update list.,.my name before was Larrymai. that was 2006..years ago.. that list was fun.. i have the same timeline with Roy and Yaz (sunandmoon, i think)., I met Roy's wife personally coz she's from davao too... Ohh. those were the days..lol..

Thanks again!>..

Edited by nydvo, 18 August 2009 - 08:29 PM.

nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:28:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
and if all of these are too fast for everyone to happen., I guess, we're different then..
some really takes time, some just happen quickly.

Merryann's mykul,
I understand that youve been to the UNIversity of Life and you already seen this happened many times., But please, dont generalize situations.

and Yes, I am sincere and honest, and love Ray so much. and he loves me too, showed me that what happened with my past will never happen again..

I accept your "sorry".coz i understand that if anyone you know and you love will be on my shoe right now., YOu will understand them and support them, and give them hope. But of course, u dont know me, so. thats alright..

believe me., I dont wanna go through this anymore... Filipinas here in the forum are so lucky and fortunate that they dont have to go through this. and I wil never ever wish them to experience this.. coz it really sucks..

Edited by nydvo, 18 August 2009 - 08:12 PM.

nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 20:10:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Merry Ann's Mykul @ Aug 19 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jom @ Aug 19 2009, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish people will stop making presumptions on what transpired betwee the OP and the ex husband. Most of us are very lucky that we didn't encounter their problem. Who are we to judge them? So what if she found another USC to sponsor her in coming back here, its none of our business.Just thank your lucky stars that you have a smooth sailing visa process and pray for our fellow Filipina who deserves a second chance.


Yea well, I know its hard to hear what I am saying, but there is something very wrong here. Its easy to see if you look at the writing on the wall. One thing we should all be fighting against is fraud. Ihave found that eople are using this sight to enable the thinking of many filipinas to actually do fruad.

The timelines dont fit. She went back to the PHilippines and file for a spousal visa and had all the time to find a new fiance? All in the span of 14 months? Huh? Remember she had to commit or agree to the spousal visa> di ba? It takes time for that visa to be approved Huh?!!!!!!! What?!!!!! Something is wrong here?

And remember she has agreed on every occasion to sign the AOS first in the USA and then the spousal visa in the PH?! And now she want sign a K1 with another guy????!!!! It looks to me this person id doing everything in her power to get back to USA. And she will do whatever it takes to do so.

And we will see a 2ndvictim again with this thing.

Another post with a person who found out they married the wrong person.

The K1 process is not McDonalds. Its for sincere people who love each other, and want o be with each other for life.

Nahhhhhhhhh!!! I smell malansa....


Ok. The i-130 is in the topic now., and everyone here knows my story anywyz, i might as well, include my timeline. for everyone.. especially to merryann's....

Feb 2007 - arrived in the US
May 9, 2007- Got married
July 17,2007-- signed AOS forms infront of the lawyer, dont know when he filed.
Aug. 3,2007-- left the US
Aug. 5 to January 2008.. -a lil talk here and there...trying to fix it..
January 11,2008--decided to file i-130 "'we're married so we tried to work it out again"
January 25,2008- Mutually agreed to end everything.. No communication since then.. never heard from him.

May 2008-- met my fiance now, Online.
sept 4,2008-- met him in person.
Oct.3 2008-- Got a call from my exhusband's secretary that HE got an approval letter from the i-130. and also the 70usd fees. (i dont know what its called)..my exhusband didnt send anything after that...
Sept.2008-i-130 approved.. didnt know and didnt care coz i havent heard from him since january.
Oct. 2008-- talked to my exhusband to file the divorce, He said he will., i sent him signed paperworks
Nov.2008--found out that he didnt file coz blah blah blah.
Nov.2008-- asked him again to file the divorce, and he said yes.. i sent him signed paperworks again..
Dec.2008-- found out again that he didnt coz blah blah blah.

March 2009-- Ray (fiance now),. visited again.. and after that decided to just file the divorce ourselves.
March 2009-- divorce filed
July 2009-- Ray visited again (this time we got engaged)
Aug.12 ,2009 -- Divorce granted.
Aug. 19 2009-- Today., I sent a cancellation letter to the NVC of my i-130 petition becoz again,My ex wont do it..

any questions and confusions about my timeline, feel free to ask..


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 19:58:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
hi merry ann's mykul,.
from the messages that you wrote., i doubt that you are the filipina. but who knows.

well, this is nydvo. smile.gif

I met my fiance now 10 months after i got legally separated. a few months after that meeting online , we met in person the first time... We got engaged the 3rd time he visited me.

I cannot defend myself enough that i am not using anyone here. If only you were a member of the other fil-am forum, and ive been a member there before i got married, the members there were witnesses on how i was abused by my exhusband, some of the members there called me everytime im being sent to the motel everytime he has his bipolar attacks.. They wanna help me so bad.,

and i found out that he was bipolar the night after we got married., I seen it on tv, a commercial about bipolar thingy., i never heard of the term bipolar before.. and on the commecial, they were explaining, "is your spouse like this, is your spouse like that?..blahblah blah...." we were already together 87 days before we got married, so i seen all those attitudes from him, so i innocently asked him., "are you bipolar?"... and he said,. YES,.SO WHAT?!.No medications. He refused to do so coz he said,he's all fine... all those times that his mood swings got extremely low, and we fight.,i always thought that hes jsut having a bad day., . after the revelation of the bipolar thingy., we had a fight again., i was home cleaning the house, watching tv, answering the business phone calls., while he was driving to his service calls., He got pulled over becoz of speeding, no seatbelt, ... after he settled all those, he went home,. drag me around the living room that caused lots of carpet burns,. and i didnt know why., he said., ITS ALL MY FAULT WHY HE was PULLED OVER COZ HE WAS THINKING OF ME... and u know the sad thing is? I believed him, i felt so bad.. I apologized. and right after i apologized, he was ok again., so happy.. like nothing happened. while my elbows and knees were bleeding...

but I happened to love my exhusband that i dont wanna leave him, I dont wanna report him to the police. Am i stupid for doing that coz im a filipina and one slap from the husband will not make me put him in trouble?

I am also at fault here. Coz i know that my fiance then at that time hates to hear someone crying. He seriously hates it. He dont wanna be around babies, coz he gets furiously mad when he hear them crying. and I cried alot when i was there. It was so cold, Minnesota, arrived there FEBruary.. I missed my family. I wanted so much to eat filipino food. and becoz my fiance then was single, never been married and 47 years old.. he eats out everyday for many many years. when i got there., never had 1 kitchen utensils, no plate, no glass,. the kitchen was empty...but eventually, we bought kitchenwares.,coz i got so fed up eating at the fastfood places..and when i say everyday, it means, we eat at restaurants, fastfood stuffs atleast 3 times a day.

If i am spiteful, i should have just called the police the very first time he hit me with a sledding toy right on my face while we were walking around the neighborhood,. why he hit me? becoz i constantly keep on telling my son to be careful while walking coz the ice on the street was dangerous..he got annoyed ., I think...

if i am spiteful.,i should have go through with the division of property. When he attacked me in our house here in the philippines to take back all the things, I should have called the local police coz of trespassing. but I didnt. Me and my family just want it to be over. We gave him whatever he wanted. with the thought in our mind that he will stop. but,he didnt. He got a girlfriend who was just our neighbor , becoz he knows that its embarrassing for my family. He went to our local church and tried to date all my churchmates coz he was thinking that those filipinas will be running over him. My family was the talk of the town,. but we kept our silence. we let him do whatever he wants to do. Those whole times., We hoped and prayed that he will just go back to the US or atleast, go to manila and enjoy his 5 months stay in the philippines. But he chose to be in our neighborhood... i even decided to move to manila while he's here in our city just to be away., but the moment he found out that im planning to leave, he planned to leave too and fly to manila...

again.. Its not his fault.. I was a cryer., and the hitting? just becoz i didnt react the very first time he did it., i just cried., made him believe that he can hit me again and again., and i let him do that.. Thats my fault too..

but time has passed., i moved on., I wanna be happy..

merryann's mykul., If you think that i am using anyone here, so be it. You have all the right to have your opinion. And i respect that.But what matters to me, Is what my fiance now thinks and feel about me.. He wholeheartedly believes the truth..

I cannot stop u from judging me. infact, I wanna thank you for saying all those coz You made me realize that THIS TIME, I DESERVE TO BE HAPPY. I DESERVE THE RIGHT GUY..I DESERVE A GOOD LIFE.. and thats what i have Now.. Arent you gonna be happy for me? fellow human? i believe u have a good heart...


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 19:38:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Jasman0717 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would seem to me that rather than come to VJ expecting legal questions answered one would continue with their legal process to the end. The bottom line is to not lie on any USCIS forms. If you need legal advise to resolve those issues then do so but don't turn around and scold people here on VJ just trying to help.

That is true Jasman, but people on here shouldnt attack and judge either.
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 18:05:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
Merry Ann,

You haven't read all the posts it seems like, and yes, there are always two sides to every story. My fiance will be the first to admit that she is no angel. It is unfortunate that you wont hear from the ex-husband, and even if you did....do you believe he would be honest? Given your mindset here that you are suspicious of a fellow Filipina and so trusting of an american just because he is an american is typical. I am not going to tell you about the ex-husband here because again you wont believe what I am saying. You will just say the same as you did about my fiance. All I will say is that I have talked to her ex-husband many times and I know for myself that he is the one who was at fault here. He flat out admitted to me that he basically lied to my fiance on more than one occasion.
To answer some of your questions now... We met online, obviously, and at the time we met she was already seperated from her husband for just about 10 months. Next, If police are called to someones home they cannot just remove anyone without a request by the other spouse. My fiance choose not to file any police reports because that was HER choice. Do some reading on bi-polar people also. As long as they are on their medication you probably will never know they are bi-polar. It is not that hard to trick someone and be phony before they actually get to the US. And if my fiance was "using her ex-husband for a ticket to the USA, why did she leave before the visa expired? If she was comitting fraud and just wanted to be in the USA, why didn't she just go to a shelter and report the abuse. And even if she did leave, after her ex-husband filed the AOS and even the spousal visa, why didn't she return after it was approved? Filipinas are so very spiteful and quick to judge others situations.
I wonder how you would have handled a situation like abuse if it happened to you. It would have been very easy for my fiance to just stay in the US and continue to just "use" her ex for a green card. She did the total opposite....and now you are attacking her because she and I met online and we want to do another K-1? Why should she have issues with all americans when it was only ONE american who she had a bad relationship with? Should I or any other american hold bad feelings or sentiments towards you or any other Filipina because of the Filipinas who are scammers and users? That is a very unfair and silly thing to say about us. I have treated my fiance with nothing but respect and love, and she has treated me the same. My past or her past should not be judged by anyone. Other than the fact that she was technically married when I first met her online, there have been no troubles or issues what so ever from her. I knew she was married and seperated and I chose to pursue a relationship with her. I knew what was involved and yes, dealing with her ex-husband was and is difficult. But you should know all the fact first before giving your opinion. Even then, I suspect you would have said the same as you did.
Nothing about my relationship with my fiance happened "quickly" as you said. I didn't make my first trip to the Philippines to meet her in person for over 6 months... is that to quick to decide to meet someone you met online? No one was being "used" here as you said also and if you knew all the fact here you wouldn't have said that. It is an unfortunate situation that her first marriage was the way it was. Marriages go bad, it happens all the time. She has fault in that marriage ending, just as he does...but no one should be penalized for it now. Relationships end and people move on....and if my fiance and I happened to fall in love and chose to pursue a life together and if we happen to be from different countries and need a visa to bring her here...what really is the problem with that? All our documents are in order. We meet all the requirements that the USCIS requires, so where is the fraud? where is the deceit?
I am tired of typing now :-) See you all later


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 18:00:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
There seems to be alot of fly by night lawyers here in these posts who think they know more then the next person, Tnguy. You and NutMagnet seem bothered by our situation the most. NutMagnet, what do you do for a living? It seems you want to be an immigration lawyer maybe because you are real good at quoting Article 26. You definitely are a conspiracy theorist. It seems no matter what we have written here, you go off and find some sort of link or article to justify your point. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but getting 3 lawyers opinion on our situation, (3 immigration and familly law lawyers), not local business lawyers mind you, seems ok with me.
Tnguy, go back and read all the posts again. No one, not even, the lawyer to be NutMagnet, is talking about the US marriage. The US marriage is valid. This whole discussion has been weather or not the US marriage is valid in the Philippines. Yes, NutMagnet, we are all very aware of your Article 26 so no need to always copy and paste it. We are also very aware that the poor, abused Mr Spiteful should have filed the divorce for it to be recognized.
I am sorry if we are going to take the word and opinion of 3 Immigration and Family Law lawyers over yours NutMagnet. I find it hard to believe that 3 of them are all involved in a conspiracy to make our K-1 visa fail or delayed, and when someone even from the local registry office which would handle any annulment tells us also that there is no record of marriage on file, then or now, and then an annulment cant be filed because there is nothing to reference TO DO AN ANNULMENT, what am I or my fiance to do? Yes, any government agency in the US would be aware of her first marriage. Yes, they had US marriage license which was used for their AOS. You dont need to state the obvious, but what you must also know NutMagnet and Tnguy is that it is not the Philippine government who decides if a visa is granted. It is the US government. Also, there is no legal requirement for a US marriage to be filed in the Philippines. Again, if it is recognized by the Philippines, great, but without a recorded marriage licence in the Philippines, which anyone would have to apply for and receive, how can anyone apply for an annulment of a marriage if there is no record of it? The US marriage license or certificate proves a marriage happened in the US, not in the Philippines. Also, a US marriage certificate or license cannot be use to file an annulment in the Philippines. Proof of a Philippine marriage is required. All you say and repeat over and over is that we have to have the marriage annuled, BUT HOW? You are not giving any answer to that question. You just repeat Articles and opinion.
Yes I paid for their divorce other wise, Mr Spiteful would still be hanging around making his own troubles. He was never going to file the divorce on his own. He said this to me directly. So I handled it and I really dont care what your opinion is on that matter. According to US law, my fiance and I are free and able to marry in the US....and it is US law that applies here. There is nothing the Philippine government can do about it because THERE IS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT. All our paperwork in in order and we have all the required documents. So again NutMagnet, thank you for all your "help"??? but I have talked to enough experienced people on situations like this, in both countries, and I am satisfied with what they tell me. There is no conspiracy happening here by me, my fiance or lawyers in either country which is what it seems you think is going on.
Good day to you sir...
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 10:08:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
Thanks TNGIRL for the reply and the concern.

1 of the lawyer that we talked to is an american immigration lawyer that Helped alot of filipino-american couples going thru immigration process. Hes popular in one of the fil-am forum like visajourney.. Infact, we're gonna hire him to do the k1.

I appreciate all the answers and inputs to my queries here. And thank you so much!

I might think that im so unlucky becoz i got an exhusband who NEVER plan to file the divorce. and i am from a country that is not that fair when it comes to this marriage thingy.. but i know that I didnt do anything wrong. no fraud. no overstaying. it just happened that my marriage didnt work out and im a filipino..but still I deserve every chance in the world to start again.

The k1 will go on. and at the time of the interview,. i will have my divorce decree and my CENOmar. and the rest of the documents. I will be ready.honest with everything.. and alot of prayers.
If theres delays, RFE, AR.Denial,whatsoever, then we'll handle it when it happens..

I hope you all can pray for me. I will be posting my timeline as soon as we will get our NOA1.

I do believe in "Do your best, and God will do the rest"...

Thank you ALL again....
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 06:29:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (NutMagnet @ Aug 18 2009, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My friend, you are getting misinformation from Filipino attorneys and government office clerks. Its Filipino way to tell you what you want to hear to avoid a confrontation or out of embarrassment of their own ignorance. Try calling the Philippine Consulates and Embassies here in the USA for a better chance of the truth, and if in doubt, read their websites they explain all.



I really hope that Mr. Ray Bacon, an american immigration lawyer, wasnt giving us wrong informations. He helped alot of Filipino- American couples going thru the immigration process..
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 02:43:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
Mr. NutMagnet,
I am not sounding like an angry man who swallowed a bitter pill. I would love to reply to your points one by one again, but it is tiring. I would like you to answer this for me... How can a marriage be annuled if it never existed? Now before you copy and paste again all the Philippine laws and codes again, this is the very question that a lawyer in the Philippines asked my fiance when she went just this morning again to inquire about this issue. Again, a lawyer in the US and a lawyer again in the Philippines explained all this to her and I but you seem to be annoyed or mad by this. It is not required to report a marriage taking place in the US to the Philippines. There is no legal requirement to do so. It is recognized only if the marriage is reported. Read the Philippine laws again. I think I remember that it needs to be reported within a certain amount of time. So again, keep refering to "Mr. Spiteful" and what he should or shouldn't have done. The fact again is, and this was confirmed by 3 lawyers, the marriage wasn't reported and there is no marriage to annul. She has a CENOMAR stating she is single and that there is no marriages on record. She just recently received another one stating this. There is just more point I want to bring up to you....We also contacted an official in the LCR, Local Civil Registry, office and asked about this situation. Her response was the same. If we hire a lawyer to do this "annulment" as you and a few others seem so sure we have to do....it cannot be done because there is no record of a marriage to annul. There has to be a record of marriage in order for an annulment to happen.
Now, if 3 lawyers confirm this and the registry office themselves confirm this, I would think we are ok, and you should be too, NutMagnet.
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 23:20:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
Hello all,
My name is Ray. I am the fiance of nydvo. I have been reading all the responses here to our situation. Let me just say that obviously anyone can reply, but I would appreciate the comments to be civil. Yes this applies to NutMagnet. What gives you the right to attack and judge someone on this forum? If you dont like someones post here or the situation it is refering to..that is fine. Just keep the attacks to yourself.
I am not going to repeat the facts of our situation here. It was posted a few times. The main fact here that everyone seems to be missing is that the US marriage was never reported to the Philippine government. I have talked with an immigration lawyer here in the US and in the Philippines and they both said the same thing. No reported marriage means no marriage. I know all the family law articles as I did research myself to find out about this matter and it even states there that the marriage outside the Philippines still needs to be reported to the Philippine government for it to be valid. Yes, a marriage outside the Philippines is valid and recognized in the Philippines... as long as it is reported.
In response to the few people who are saying the marriage still needs to be annuled: What technically is being annuled? There is no marriage recorded to be annuled. Both immigration lawyers confirmed this to me. This is not my fiance being sneaky or commiting any fraud as some of you have suggested. Is it lucky? Of course. But as NutMagnet thinks, the so called "poor american ex-husband victim" should have known better also and reported the marriage right after. If anyone is to blame here for anything it is him. If you all only knew more of the story involved here with the ex-husband, maybe some of the negative comments and attacks would go away.
Dont be so quick to judge when you dont know all the facts.
My fiance didn't overstay her first K-1 visa. Yes, the AOS was filed but they never went to the interview as she was already out of the US. There was an attempt to make the marriage work with her then husband and the spousal visa was filed, but after a few months it was clear it wasn't going to work out. The spousal visa was approved but at that point they were already talking about divorce. The husband said he was going to file for divorce numerous times and he never did. Two sets of divorce papers were sent to my fiance for her signature but he never filed. He flat out admitted to me that he wont file papers. At that point, I hired a lawyer here in the US to do the divorce. Why should my fiance be strung along by her now ex-husband, who admitted he just wanted to cause trouble for her? If anyone here committed fraud and was deceitful it was the ex-husband. My fiance should not be attacked for wanting to be free of him and for doing what she needs to do to accomplish this. So if being aggressive in wanting to be divorced from an abusive, controlling husband makes her guilty.. well then NutMagnet, She and I are both guilty....and when two immigration lawyers from both countries confirm to us that we are free and clear to pursue our goals, that is all the justification we need.
I dont know what else to say..... :-)
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 19:14:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (NutMagnet @ Aug 17 2009, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 17 2009, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we hired a lawyer to do the AOS., and i really didnt know what happened to that application.. when i was still there., all i can remember was meeting the lawyer and signed some papers.. after that., never heard anything... my exhusband didnt even say anything about it..

I am really expecting for tougher questions....fingers crossed here.. and lots of prayers..

Thank u sooo much for the infos and the support..




Don't depend the US Embassy Manila to assist you in circumventing Philippine law. You seem to be looking for a fast and clever way out of getting a proper annulment.

For a K1 visa you must have the legal capacity to marry. You say that you filed for, and were granted a foreign divorce which you know is not recognized under Philippine law, and you think you can sneak by because, so far, your CENOMAR is clean.

You stated that your ex-husband is "Spiteful" and that also you filed for AOS. What will your ex husband say when Immigration knocks his door and asks him where you are? Also why you have not completed your AOS because they will think you went TNT.

If you are serious about your new boyfriend and are indeed serious about having a family, and not just coming to the USA for Immigration benefits. Then you need to be honest with him and tell him that you are not ready and that you need to get a honest and full annulment before wasting time and money on your plan of fraud.


Is there any wonder why Manila is one of the top 3 high fraud Embassies?


Thanks NutMagnet for your sentiments.

My k1 visa expired Aug.5, 2007.. I left Aug.3,2007
I got married on the 87th day of the 90days period...and we filed for the AOS>
The whole time i was in the US, it involved physical abuse.Everytime he has bipolar attacks, he sent me and my son 4 times to the nearest motel and let us stay there for 3-4 nights just becoz he felt like it.. I never call the police, but our neighbors did. I never show them my bruises coz i dont want my exhusband to be in trouble (POOR USC HUSBAND VICTIM HUH!).. July 27,2007,..another police thingy happened in the house, the police want me to go to the shelter coz they said im not safe anymore to be with the guy., I told them., I cannot just drag my son to the shelter and be a burden to anyone..so I said, im just gonna go back to the Philippines...

Oct. 2008 to January 2009... My exhusband "made me believe" that he will file the divorce.. so i sent him signed paperworks twice. coz he lied to me twice... he made excuses why he werent able to do it.. but eventually,. he admitted., HE WILL NEVER FILE THE DIVORCE coz he SAID he dont want me to be married again..But we were already separated since AUG>2007.

And yes,,. I do deserve a second chance... I hired a lawyer in the US to do the divorce. and I chose to just do the DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE. I do have a choice to do the DIVision of Property coz we had some acquired during the marriage, but I know that he worked hard for it.,even though some properties has my name on it., but he deserved all of it...

When he found out that i got a boyfriend.. He flew all the way to the Philippines from DEC> 2008 to May 2009, and went to our house and took back everything that he gave me and to my son., from the toys to the clothes, to everything that he knew its from his money. He atleast had lots of balikbayan boxes for all of it. he took back the engagement ring, the wedding ring, ... everything.... my family said, if its gonna make him happy., then so be it....


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 15:55:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
we hired a lawyer to do the AOS., and i really didnt know what happened to that application.. when i was still there., all i can remember was meeting the lawyer and signed some papers.. after that., never heard anything... my exhusband didnt even say anything about it..

I am really expecting for tougher questions....fingers crossed here.. and lots of prayers..

Thank u sooo much for the infos and the support..


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 08:23:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Merry Ann's Mykul @ Aug 17 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 16 2009, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 16 2009, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are you still in the US and you werent able to file AOS since you got here? or you're now in phil? im so sorry for your situation and that your marriage didnt work out. i was on K1 too (2007) and 4 months ago i finally reported our marriage at the Phil Consulate in san fran. meaning for those who reported their marriage outside in phil, they now have our records at the NSO. in your situation, perhaps you're still single in phil. and once you go back and filed for another k1 perhaps the only agency that knows about you being married abroad is the US embassy. im no expert on this and all i can do is guessing what's next to happen which is not helpful at all. but i truly wish you luck and hope you'll find your answers here in the forum.
good.gif
God bless



ive been back here in the PHilippines since Aug. 2007. only stayed in the US for 6 months. No AOS filed.
Didnt report the marriage at the Philippine Consulate coz in the first place we didnt know that we have to.
My Cenomar now still shows im single.. but, if i will start a k1 application, i will attach my divorce decree..theres gonna be a conflict there.

i can never find any situation the same like mine. its so frustrating..
If i need an annulment, how am i gonna do that if i have no record that i was married here...

thank u so much for the reply! .I hope too that someone can enlighten me here..


This is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time laughing.gif


Do u know anyone that has the same situation with mine? OMG.. that would be such a blessing.. I would love to know what happen to them.

pretty please..!! smile.gif
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 05:24:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
Thanks RonMay..

As soon na makuha namin yung divorce decree., i hihire namin c Mr. Ray Bacon to assist us with the k1 application.
Nagfreak out lang kami kc nga dahil sa RP laws., pero eventually, naging ok naman...
But i am soooo aware na tougher questions this time sa interview... pero., as long na honest ako, wala akong ginawang mali , no fraud., no overstaying sa US.. complete yung documents,. and more Prayers, cguro naman magiging ok ako.. smile.gif

I was thinking, pano ako magpapa annul d2 sa pinas if wala namang record na i wa wipe out?.. so yung CENOMAR ko is clear...



nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-17 04:02:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (tngirl21809 @ Aug 16 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (chizkeyk @ Aug 16 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (happyme @ Aug 15 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (nydvo @ Aug 15 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im a filipina married in the US year 2007.,after 6 months in the US, i chose to leave coz marriage didnt work out, and my USC husband will never file the divorce just to be spiteful., I filed the divorce March 2009.. and is now waiting for the Divorce decree...

can i marry again in the US?
I have no record of marriage in the philippines coz i was married in the US, even though i know that the marriage is valid here in the philippines..

i badly need help.,
i think ive been to gazillion of website concerning this but no situation like mine.. most of the marriages were done here in the philippines..

i will answer any questions if u need more information..

Thank u



of course namn po pede kc jan ka namn naksal eh meron sadyang divorce jan at khit kelan di ka nagpaksal dito.. kya khit mag-asawa ka jan walang mgiging prob... good.gif



WRONG! Kahit saan Universe ka pa ikinasal IF FILIPINO citizen ka pa, valid ang kasal mo sa batas ng Pilipinas... Under Phil Law hindi ka pwedeng mag-asawa unless otherwise na-dissolve ne yong first marriage. And, let the foreign spouse initiate the filing of divorce para sa mata ng batas sa Pilipinas, maka-pag-asawa ulit sya.

Bago maging complicated ang lahat dear OP, check mo na muna documents mo and makipag-usap ka na muna sa abogado kung anong consequences ba ang kahaharapin mo KUNG ikaw ang magpa-file ng divorce...

Goodluck.



i agree... as far as i know... ito nga ung rules.
As for CeMar, ung akin hiningi sa embassy, CR1 filer ako.
Ang alam ko requirement ung CeNoMar sa K1 eh... baka mag-kasabit sabit ka sa documents.
Since you are filing divorce, hanap ka na rin ng competent lawyer to legally terminate your marriage in the Philippines.

Good luck!


in my CENOMAR, it still shows i have no record of any marriage at all.. kc, nde namin na report ng exhusband ko ang marriage namin sa Philippine embassy .
Yung divorced ko is finalized na.. waiting in the mail nalang kami for the document itself.

If anyone knows Ray Bacon, an immigration lawyer., my fiance already talked to him, he said

"So if neither
the marriage nor divorce is recorded by the NSO, she should be able to
get a clear CERNOMAR, and there shouldn't be a problem with the
Embassy accepted her "divorced," i.e., "free to marry" status"....
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-16 09:37:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (BRB @ Aug 16 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you are here on a K1 visa and then married in the US and you are now filing divorce once it is final you can remarry. The issue is can you stay in the country? Most likely not. There is a two year conditional status on your visa and that has to be removed by your husband who you are now divorcing. If that status is removed you can stay in the country. If it has not been removed then your ex may notify the gov. It all depends if you have had that status removed or not. Even though you have divorced you can casue problems for your ex if you remain in the country as he agreed to take care of you for a length of time so you do not become a charge of the state.


there wasnt any AOS approved coz 2 months after the marriage i chose to leave the US.. Yes, we submitted an AOS application but if there was any update from the USCIS , by then i was already in the philippines..


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-16 09:30:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
i filed the divorce and we're on the end of the process already.. jsut waiting for the actual divorce decree document.

thank u all for the replies
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-15 21:15:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (RonMay @ Aug 16 2009, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are you still in the US and you werent able to file AOS since you got here? or you're now in phil? im so sorry for your situation and that your marriage didnt work out. i was on K1 too (2007) and 4 months ago i finally reported our marriage at the Phil Consulate in san fran. meaning for those who reported their marriage outside in phil, they now have our records at the NSO. in your situation, perhaps you're still single in phil. and once you go back and filed for another k1 perhaps the only agency that knows about you being married abroad is the US embassy. im no expert on this and all i can do is guessing what's next to happen which is not helpful at all. but i truly wish you luck and hope you'll find your answers here in the forum.
good.gif
God bless



ive been back here in the PHilippines since Aug. 2007. only stayed in the US for 6 months. No AOS filed.
Didnt report the marriage at the Philippine Consulate coz in the first place we didnt know that we have to.
My Cenomar now still shows im single.. but, if i will start a k1 application, i will attach my divorce decree..theres gonna be a conflict there.

i can never find any situation the same like mine. its so frustrating..
If i need an annulment, how am i gonna do that if i have no record that i was married here...

thank u so much for the reply! .I hope too that someone can enlighten me here..


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-15 11:34:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
QUOTE (Otto und Karin @ Aug 15 2009, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Obviously you can not marry until the decree is final (and their may be a waiting period that prevents you from marrying directly after - depends on the state).

When you are able to marry - you're certainly allowed to - the question is, would you be allowed to remain in the US (and can you even remain while waiting for the divorce to be finalized).

(What visa did you arrive on - and what is your current status?)



I am waiting for the divorce decree.. but of course,, I cannot start a k1 unless i have the divorce decree.. the thing is.. lots of issues that A FILIPINO WHO INITIATED THE DIVORCE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET MARRied again under the Philippine Law, at the same time that only applies to those married in the Philippines.. what about those who was married in the US>

i went to the US 2007 thru K1 visa..
but i left the US after 6 months.. werent able to do the AOS..

Edited by nydvo, 15 August 2009 - 11:06 AM.

nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-15 11:02:00
PhilippinesFilipina filed for divorce
im a filipina married in the US year 2007.,after 6 months in the US, i chose to leave coz marriage didnt work out, and my USC husband will never file the divorce just to be spiteful., I filed the divorce March 2009.. and is now waiting for the Divorce decree...

can i marry again in the US?
I have no record of marriage in the philippines coz i was married in the US, even though i know that the marriage is valid here in the philippines..

i badly need help.,
i think ive been to gazillion of website concerning this but no situation like mine.. most of the marriages were done here in the philippines..

i will answer any questions if u need more information..

Thank u
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-15 10:37:00
Philippinesa question for the guys here that have there loved ones with them now!!!
I had IUD for almost 6 years... worked out great.. I took it out December '09 coz me and my husband thinks we're ready to have one.. since my first child is almost 7 years old ...

it only took less than 3 minutes to put it in.. no pain or discomfort..

and its free in your local health clinic. =)

Edited by nydvo, 25 February 2010 - 04:19 PM.

nydvoFemalePhilippines2010-02-25 16:14:00
PhilippinesSt. Luke’s Medical Exam Walkthrough
BUMP!!
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-11-08 09:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsK-1 visa petition
congratulations!!!

Join us in our september filer's list
http://www.visajourn...h...0&start=360
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-10-19 20:23:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsOct K-1 Visa- VSC
heres the rest of OCt filer VSC

http://www.visajourn...h...221572&st=0
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-10-28 03:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress ReportsI-134
I think the I-864 is for adjustment of Status right after u get married.

I went thru k1 before year 2006, and my exhusband , which is my fiance before,. was also self employed.
we only used i-134.

I still have a copy of the whole K1 package that we had.. and we only had i-134, then his last 3 years of 1040.then bank statements (only 10 months) business and personal accounts.


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-10-29 00:44:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionThe Interview and a Foreign Country Police Clearance
Hi there..

I also had my interview today. I met your fiancee , and we talked alot!.lol. i seen ur pictures too!! and very very sweet cake! smile.gif

both of us were approved.!

The funny thing was, we talked starting from the line outside the embassy around 6am til she has to leave .. and i didnt even know her name , and she didnt know my name too. we just spoke the same dialect.. and we connected right away.. smile.gif

COnratulations wth the Visa and the weddin on Dec. smile.gif

btw, incase she didnt remember me, I was with my son whom she said that really looked like her nephew


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nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-11-19 02:16:00
CanadaMoving to NY
We're in Queens too.. Ridgewood ..along Fresh Pond Rd. :)
nydvoFemalePhilippines2010-02-25 20:35:00
PhilippinesDetoxing hair..
hello sa lahat..

im new here..nabasa ko na yung whole thread. and may problem rin ako sa buhok ko.

twice na ako nag nagdye ng buhok ko , and then last week, nagpa hair gloss ako., 2 days after, kumulot yung dulo ng buhok ko.. nakakataranta talga... ano ba ang dapat kong gawin first?

PLease..need help advice talga..

thank u in advance...


jeramie
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-05-25 19:55:00
Philippinesbirth control
anyone tried IUD?
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-14 21:18:00
PhilippinesMy CFO Question
I also know that you cannot leave the US without the sticker.,

But i know a filipina in a fil-am forum that was able to leave the PHilippines without the sticker. Talking about lucky.. smile.gif

question: do u only have to take the seminar once, and the sticker and certificate will be valid for life?
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-18 11:43:00
PhilippinesGOD is GREAT, SHERYL GOT THE PINK.
QUOTE (AbbynSheryl @ Aug 18 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey all Vjers.
Thank u so much for all the help and support. Finally my wife Sheryl just got the PINK.
i am so happy. abby

Awesome guys!!!!
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-19 17:09:00
Philippinesfather cannot be found..thats why no legal of consent
if you werent married to the father of your child, then no worries at all.
I wasnt married to the father of my son and he even signed on the bc of my son acknowledging he's the father..
but i got the full custody., and i went through k1/k2 very smooth..
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-09-25 19:22:00
PhilippinesWestern Union Sucks
try www.xoom.com
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-08-19 23:24:00
PhilippinesCFO question

I had my CFO last OCt. 18 2006, so 3 years ago.. do i have to do it again?


nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-10-22 01:03:00
PhilippinesNBI and CENOMAR
I filed my k1/k2 year 2006, then had our medical january of 2007, and I chose to take the shots after i arrived in the US.
nydvoFemalePhilippines2009-10-23 14:32:00