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K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I can't remember if Teaw took the receipt or mailed it with the P3 stuff. But she used the post office behind the embassy building across the street from where you do the interviews. They do many of them and
it cost her the 4454 baht and I had her make two copies of it just in case something happened. No extra fees were added and I understand not all POs do the fee so it's best to use one that knows what they are
doing.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-09 08:20:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
It's ?? not ?? ................ HUH??????
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-07 06:38:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I'm sorry, they are NOT my Lakers!!!! If they were I'd be filthy rich!!!

Kari, I told Teaw to expect email from you about that site. She said she'd check it out.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-06 22:17:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Yeah but if we knew when they did these chats and where then I would LOVE to ask those questions and see what kind of response I get!!!
So if anyone can shed light on when they do it I'll make an effort to ask the questions.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-06 18:39:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I just noticed on the embassy website that they host a web chat. Anyone know what dates and times they hold this? I'd love to give them a little grief and try to get some answers. I was able to download and read a transcript of one from March 30th. It doesn't look like they are online
too awfully long so I am sure there are a lot of questions left unanswered.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-06 12:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Gee, so this means we can expect more delays? I am not going to sit here waiting forever for them to get through the AP. If they won't answer email inquiries for a status update and then it hits 90-120 days, I will walk across the street and have a nice chat with my congressman. There is no reason, if they can take the time to read everything before an interview and they ask for more proof of relationship, that they can't sit their asses down and read what extra stuff you provide instead of sitting on it for months!!! Sound like I am a little testy today? You got it!!!!

SqdnGuns, I grew up in Ventura County....Port Hueneme to be exact, then lived in Oxnard until 2000.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-06 12:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I guess I can forgive the Lakers things. :lol:.................

Well, I am from So Cal and spent most of my life there and was and still am an LA Kings fan. So I automatically root for the Lakers even though I
hardly ever watch a game!! Give me hockey anytime!!! Teaw already knows I will watch games on TV and it will be fun to see how she reacts when I
take her to a Carolina Hurricanes game.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-06 07:10:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Go Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-05 20:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Now Kari, I DO NOT get 22 days paid vacation a year. Right now I get 3.33 weeks a year and next year after June 1 it goes up higher...thankfully!!! I was talking about the embassy folk in BKK get 22 days paid HOLIDAYS with all the US and Thai holidays they get. I wish I got that many holidays here in the US!!! And I am sure they get some great federal vacation time too!! And I got another first degree murder conviction yesterday so now I have another 7 day trial appeal to do. May is going to be a very profitable month for transcripts as I finished the 2 week appeal and sent that bill in Monday. Teaw and I joke that I am working so hard to pay the sinsod!!! EIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I think Teaw taking the copy of my Thai divorce when I told her to leave it home and then giving that to them by mistake instead of the ring receipt raised questions in their mind. I have not blamed her for it, although we have talked about it and I tell her well, I screwed up too and should have sent more information for her to take. She was pretty upset at herself for doing that but that's life. It's water under the bridge now and I am past that and waiting to see what comes next. Did you tell Teaw about the pantip.com site and where to look for the discussion board? If you could, I'd appreciate it so maybe she can learn more and give her input. I do wish it was in English cause maybe it would help all of us to be able to read it.

AZ Mike, you might not have any problem getting the B2, but I know one Thai lady who owned her home, was a govt school teacher, had letter from her employer, money in the bank and she was denied twice!!! And I think you will have an uphill battle with the fact she would be coming with her daughter for her wedding and they might just think she would decide to stay here. I hope you can get her here but I would not expect it and if she gets it, then you can go bonkers!!! I too would LOVE to know what they are looking at during an AP. Too bad we didn't have someone on the inside that could tell us, or someone we knew who had recently worked there. And it would be nice if they would tell you what they are looking at so maybe you could give them more specific information depending on what it was. They won't even answer my emails now and give me a status update.

Audy, I am still here. Usually check the thread every day but don't always write something. We are just waiting hoping they will give us the visa soon. As far as I am concerned my divorce should be a non-issue. They should realize that the relationship was over 7 months before I could get back to get the divorce done and Teaw and I were well on our way in our relationship. God forbid they should just ASK ME to explain what happened, which I could easily do and show them why and how that marriage started failing within 2 months after we got married. But of course, being so many miles apart I can't just jump on a plane and go over and take care of it when I get off work on Friday!!! It does take some planning, putting in for time off work, etc. Yes, I am hanging....literally...hahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-05 19:14:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Mike, we have not been denied. After Teaw's interview they asked for more proof of relationship and after Teaw submitted hundreds of pages of emails, chats, over 70 pics and other stuff, they called her and told her to come pick up her passport. When she finally went to get the passport the paper she got with it said the case was in AP and they would contact her. I would suggest your fiancee start reading a site called usavisa4thai. It is written in Thai and a lot of the girls there post what is going on with their case. AP in BKK is taking anywhere from 2-4 months and they seem to be doing it on a regular basis to many of the girls lately. I am sure NVC will try to move your case out as quickly as possible but you should make sure that your fiancee has a ton of stuff to give them at the interview. I thought I had more than enough to show the relationship but they wanted more. So we are hoping it won't take them anywhere close to 4 months, but I have no idea how they process them when they go into AP. I emailed them twice last week, two different email addresses asking for an update but they have not answered back, which is unusual since they usually do respond. From what Teaw has learned on that Thai website, people have been told don't contact us...we will contact you when we are ready.

Forgot to mention....how do you expect to get your wife's mother here? Getting a travel visa is near impossible and that's the only way I know she could come here and return back home for a wedding. You might try to get more info from members on the best way to try to do that.

Richardying, from what Teaw has been reading in the website, interviews are now being set 4-6 weeks out from the interview date. I believe our summertime is when they get busier at the embassy with interviews...or maybe they just go on vacation more. I wish I got 22 paid holidays a year like they do!!!!

Edited by Tom and Teaw, 05 May 2010 - 12:32 PM.

Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-05 12:30:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
"Should I wait until the Embassy sends my fiancee the packet 3 or can she send the completed packet 3 once I see that DHL has sent the petition to the embassy? I already know our BNK case number and have completed all the required documents for the packet 3. Did anyone else do this?"


Generally DHL delivers in 3 business days. You can email the consulate and ask them if they have it yet. Usually takes them at least a day
to process it and show in their computer system. If you know for sure it's in BKK you can send in P3 documents but always send EMS with a
tracking number so you can be assured they are delivered.

Edited by Tom and Teaw, 04 May 2010 - 12:26 PM.

Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-04 12:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Just thought I'd share: Interview assigned for June 8th at 7 AM. Yay!


Congrats!!!!!!!!!! Hope it goes better than ours did!!! HAHAHA. Seems they are getting busy now as Teaw says the girls are getting interviews about a month away from getting the P3 packet back to the embassy.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-05-01 08:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
For anyone going for an interview soon, err on the side of caution. The embassy is referring a lot of cases for AP if they are missing any little thing they want to see and are taking months to get around to finally looking at it all. So it's better to "front load" for the interview. Have her take anything you think might have been not put in the original application to show the relationship.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-26 06:41:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Seem this thread got awful quiet all of a sudden. Do I need to stir it up some?
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-22 08:22:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I personally like American Airlines...maybe that's because now I am Platinum with them and they put me in business class to Japan on the 777 and the same home. JAL puts me in business seats but it's not a true business class and you get the regular food, which on JAL is ####### for sure!!! One nice thing about at least JAL is that when they see someone leave the bathroom they go right in and tidy it up, fold the toilet paper ends, etc. Noting worse than going into a bathroom on the plane and it's a mess. But I do love the food in business and the ice cream sundae I get after dinner. It's not worth it to me to switch mileage programs now when I have so many with AA and get the free upgrades.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-16 08:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Some sites quote you a price including tax and some don't. You just have to really look at what the fare is. They will usually say $750 (incl. tax and fees) or $750 and give you an option to see what the full price is or
estimated taxes. And yes, if you are flying as US airline the taxes can run $150 or more round trip. If you book on a foreign carrier the taxes are usually much cheaper. Have no clue why. But I still stick with a US airline
unless I can get the same miles on the foreign carrier for my status.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-15 13:25:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
I had printed the forms and Teaw took them with her to the medical exam. She had also obtained shots ahead of time and she did not need
any others. Her med. cost under $100 US at Bumrungrad Hosp. since she had all the forms with her and did not need any shots.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-13 09:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

We had used Siam-Legal for our K1 (hired them before I found this site), they were professional. They had a couple of US attorneys working there, which was useful when I had questions.


Thanks. How was the cost?
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-09 18:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

If you get a fraud denial, you will want someone to act before the documents are returned to the USCIS. So at least have one in mind just in case. Check some of the Ho Chi Minh city cases, because these are a lot more common there.


Are you suggesting finding one in Bangkok then or here in the USA? I would think having one there would be better.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-09 17:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

The reason they don't tell people exactly what they look for or what causes AP / FPU, is the fact that if people know they will changes to circumvent the flags that go AP / FPU, thus resulting in more fraudulent people getting through. It could have been anyone of us, but there is something either in your background, her background, or something else that triggered the AP. Comb through your paperwork, and see if there is anything else that might have triggered it, maybe it was something that your fiancee has not told you, who knows.

I have worked in the three letter agency world and there are reasons that the play books are not made public. There is over sight just not to the general public, and there are good reasons why. It is not always apparent to the outside world, because you only see 1 side of the story (the media side).


I know what was in the paperwork and there is nothing there that I could ever think of that would trigger this except they see I got divorced from the Thai witch and mailed in the K-1 a week or so later. But the divorce is a matter of when I could get to Thailand again to do it and in the meantime Teaw and I went on with our relationship. There may have been something in the way she answered a few things as they did ask her about 5-6 questions about the ex, although her answers seemed ok to me. I only worked in a two letter world back in the late '60s...AI...army intelligence. But I understand what you are saying but at least say hey, it's here in this part. We'll let you know when we need something.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-09 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
"so I save her from paying however many Thai baht for calling the USA even for less than one minute."

I think it's only like 10 baht to call and let it ring or even if you answer and hang up. But make sure you talk for at least 15-20 seconds so it shows
as one minute on your cell bill. I know when I have called my parents for Christmas or otherwise when I am in Thailand and I talk to them for 20 min. or more
I am surprised at how little time it took off the Thai number that I am using. So it might be worth her spending a couple hundred baht a month just so you have
the record of her calling you. Also, depending on how long you are in the process, it seems the phone companies there will only go back 3 months to give you
phone records. So maybe every 3 months she can call and have them mail her her phone records that shows her calls and texts to you. It will show you calling
but I doubt it would show your phone number if you are using phone cards.

I wouldn't worry about the holiday. It's not going to happen quickly in any case now.

Personally, given the specific circumstances that you explained combined with this AP issue, I would probably seek out an experienced immigration attorney at this point.


And what would an immigration attorney be able to do at this point that would make it worthwhile? Are they going to tell him what they are looking at? They act like
they are the CIA or something and exempt from the people who pay them seeing what they are doing.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-09 14:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
Got the standard reply from the embassy to my email about the status of the case after Teaw took all the new stuff on Monday. The above captioned K-1 fiancé visa case for Ms. BOONMA SRISOMPORN is currently under administrative processing. The visa Unit will be in touch with you and the applicant as soon as the process is completed regarding the outcome of the case.

Of course, they don't say what they are really doing, if it in the fraud unit or where. I am still debating if I should write a letter explaining what happened with the marriage, why and how it deteriorated so fast after we got married that left the door open for my relationship with Teaw to change into more than just friends. What do some of you other "seasoned" people think? Should I write the letter? I can get it there so they have it after the Songkran holiday!!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-09 08:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Fraud Prevention Unit
Here is an explanation, (I'm not recommending the owner of the site, BTW, but the explanation on this page is good.)
http://integrity-leg...l-blog/tag/fpu/


That was good to read. I am just still pondering whether to explain the divorce situation and where Teaw fit in. The main thing is by April before the divorce in Oct the relationship was in the tank and the
trip in April just cemented in my mind it was the right thing to do. But with her temper displayed on that trip. I felt it better to wait until I got home to bring up the divorce she kept saying she wanted and
I could not get back until Oct to get it. In the meantime Teaw and I moved on with our relationship and took it to a higher level. It's just that when you are not there day in and day out you accomplish what you
can when you are there. I already knew what I wanted and she did too so we got all the papers done for me to file when I got back. Thanks for the link.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 13:50:00
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Sounds like jail. When did that start? It wasn't in place last year.

I don't know when they started it but there is a totally new entrance now a little farther up the road past the foot bridge that is real nice...not like the old one. I am sure the new setup
was in answer to irate fiancees and to give them more protection maybe from airborne diseases also.

Yeah, that's odd to have three. Ann had one guy and they talked about her job and how he could get SCB services cheaper in Thailand while he was there. :rolleyes:


I guess they were just slow that day or something. I was surprised when she told me how many she had too. And they were all reading stuff and asking her questions. No wonder she couldn't
speak much English!!! And how can you prepare them for questions like she got when you don't expect them? From what she told me her answers were I think she answered quite well for not knowing
what was coming. She's a smart lady!!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 13:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Tom, I went to read Teaw's accounts of her experience. The consensus is that it seems more like FPU than regular AP. Especially since they were asking her such personal questions and gave her back her passport. She might get called in for another interview. If so, you should be there with her ready to answer questions nicely. In the meantime, if you can, don't just wait for them to call you. Call and bug them once or twice a month. Several girls were cleared without hassle and had visas issued but didn't know it because the embassy never called them. Good luck!


What is FPU? I'd love to be there for another interview but if I only get a day or two notice it's near impossible to do it. I am still debating whether to write them a letter and tell them how the divorce came about and she fit into the picture as a permanent hopefully wife instead of friends as we were at the beginning. What do you think?
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 13:33:00
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The Thai-speaking interviewers have always been more rude than the English-speaking interviewers. I have always recommended that you interview in English if at all possible.


I would have preferred she do it all in English but she, like many others, was very nervous. The new setup has a deal like some banks...glass window with a microphone for them to speak into and the people on the other side. She felt she would say the wrong thing in English but she did use some English. They have to understand these people are very nervous, afraid, and no matter how much you prepare them ahead of time, they are intimidated for sure.

As to the sex question, I felt it was totally inappropriate. I know they were trying to throw a curve ball to her and she answered it beautifully in my mind. I would love to raise hell with someone about questions like that because really your sex life is none of their business!!!! But I will keep my mouth shut until this is all over.....and I still may do nothing because if probably wouldn't do any good unless I could talk to someone with real authority and I know they keep the employees secret over there. I'd love to know the name of the Thai lady at the interview. And remember, she had THREE people interviewing her...a man and a lady farang and the Thai lady. If I was in her shoes I would have been real intimidated. I would have felt like they were ganging up on me.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 13:02:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

So when you mailed in the DS-2001 checklist or letter of readiness with all the forms and documents, did you also mail in the Evidence of Relationship?

I was reading the Packet 3 online from the Bangkok Embassy and it seems you need to mail in ALL forms and documents with the checklist of readiness except they say you do not need to mail in the Medical Results nor Evidence of Relationship.


No, you only mail in the DS-2001 and the other DS forms and copies of the stuff on the checklist....passport, birth certs, that stuff...and bring everything else about evidence of relationship with you to the interview. A lady at the front sorts through it all and takes what they want to give to the interviewers..all the other forms, emails, etc. Then if they want more they will tell you after they are done. If you read over the instructions it clearly states what you have to mail and what you bring with you and what you submit as copies and bring the originals with you.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 12:56:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)

Well Tom, this does not seem good. Not matter how unprofessional the Thai interpreter was, there is not much you can do. I thinkk the Embassy has questions of the Relationship and how and when it evolved. I guess that is kind of obvious.

Wait out the AP and then make your decision based on their decision. Sorry I do not know what else to say. :blush:


Well, I think she answered the questions about the ex pretty good. It should not have caused any suspicion and if they bothered to ask me to explain how it all transpired, they would easily understand
how we ended up where we are now. I can say without doubt Teaw was in no way responsible for the divorce. The ex brought it on all by herself and her transformation into the raving psycho ###### shortly
after we got married (big mistake on my part) and finding out she was meeting men in BKK and then chatting them up when they left as if she was a single person. I have two of the chats to prove it and if
they ever ask me to explain the timeline I will happily tell them how it shook out and send the chats I found on her laptop. I am glad she asked me to work on it when I was there and found those chats and
copied them onto my laptop so I would have them. Have not heard back from the email I sent them so I resent it to another email address making sure they see it.

According to Teaw they are getting really nasty there. They are doing this to many of the ladies now and one they had told her at the interview they had the visa and then they called her up a few days later,
told her it was cancelled and said they would call her later. Think of how stressful that would be!!!! Another one they told her a 3rd time to bring more proof of relationship!! So it seems they are tightening
up over there and anyone going into the process in Bangkok should prepare everything they can find for the interview and prep the ladies a lot first.

Later, dude!!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-08 07:07:00
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I got a little more insight into Teaw's interview on 3-24 when we chatted tonight. She had 3 people interviewing her...2 farangs and a Thai lady.

They asked her: how her friend that introduced us in jan 2008 knew me, how we first met, when we have been together, did she know I was getting married in Sep 08, did she know my ex wife, did she know her name,
how she felt about me having a Thai wife...I assume back in 08...and get this....the Thai lady wanted to know when we had sex!!!! Since when is your personal life subject of an interview to that degree? Anyway,
she said they asked her a lot about the ex wife. There may have been more questions that she didn't remember. Oh, and yes, they asked her why she types emails and chats in English and she told them we talk in
English and she uses dictionary when we chat.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 21:12:00
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Thanks KL!!
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 15:49:00
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@Tom - I am not saying this has anything to do with the possible AP at all, but I am wondering, you and Teaw probably communicate and correspond in English, is that correct? And did Teaw mostly interview and answer questions in English or did she ask them to speak in Thai?

Again, I am not thinking this is at all related to your situation, but I am wondering partly because of the posting a few pages back by "TheBears."

Thanks


Yes, we corresponded all in English, of course. The emails are all in English as well as the chats. And she did speak mostly Thai at the interview as she was nervous and had trouble saying what she wanted
to say in English since they talked to her for 45 minutes. They did ask her who typed her emails since they were all in English and she told them she did. But hey, I have talked to many Thai ladies that can
type English better than they speak it. And when I first met Teaw she could hardly speak English and we had a lot of trouble communicating.....except she could type English much better and now her speaking has
improved dramatically. And if they take the time to read the emails they will see that she phrases things broken up not putting in simple words that make the sentence complete like we would. She was concerned
about them asking her about who typed her emails for her. Even now when we chat there are times I will not understand what she wrote and have to ask her to explain it different so I know what she meant.

I wouldn't send them any extra information, since you really don't know what it has gone into AP. The divorce then filed is just speculation. It is best to wait it out and see what they come back with. I know the waiting game sucks, but sending in more info now with knowing the reason, could just give them more things to look into, thus prolonging the time.


Are you suggesting that they will tell us what they are looking into and be specific enough so we know what it is? That would be nice. I mean I don't want to send up anymore red flags, but on the other hand I'd like
to speed it along as best I can.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 15:39:00
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I don't think this is a fraud case, but your problem may be that the embassy suspects it is and they want to investigate further. Maybe they actually want time to read and analyze your emails and chats (as I think they don't normally do that as a matter of course).

How much of what you told us do they know? Hopefully they will let you supply additional information at this point. You definitely don't want the case to be sent back to the USCIS for visa fraud as that will result in a permanent ban on your fiancee and it seems that that finding takes forever to overturn, if it ever happens at all. This seems to happen to Vietnamese cases regularly and you can read about some real horror stories there.

Trust me, it wouldn't matter if I met her. My friend is the sweetest East European girl I've ever met, but she got her citizenship through a wedding "arrangement" with an American. She lined up one for her sister, too. Both divorced as soon as they had naturalized. Brought their parents over, too. If you ask them, they will tell you that it is what they had to do to survive and help their family. Again, I'm NOT saying that this is you, but embassies see these cases all the time, and you can't tell anything based on a sweet personality.


They don't know any of what I posted in here. Another friend wrote me a private message and suggested I just outright ask them if the reason they are holding it up is due to the divorce being done and then the K-1 being filed
after I got home. And then ask to provide further evidence and write an explanation of what happened and a chrono of what went down so they understand why it happened the way it did in Oct. I am tempted to do just that after I
see their response from the email I sent this morning. I'd rather try to cut it off now and tell them what happened than wait too long to find out that's what it is. Do you think if I wrote an explanation I could mail it directly to them so Teaw would not have to go all the way into BKK to deliver it?
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 13:56:00
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He was absolutely right you can file as soon as the divorce is final. That does not mean the embassy is not going to question it, or scrutinize your case more. BTW, I am just taking a stab at why it was held up.


I understand. It would be nice if they would just say hey, what happened to the marriage and why was the divorce done in Oct and then you filed? Then I would send them several pages of explanation of all that
happened and how Teaw and I picked up when the other went south. I am hoping my email will get them to maybe ask without directly asking them if they would like to know more about it. But I appreciate any and
all input I can get and thoughts on why they are taking their time reviewing it. And I hope they do it quickly. The thing is, they just told her they wanted more evidence of the relationship so we gave it to them.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 10:58:00
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I would guess that is why the AP, it shows you got divorced and then the same month filed for K1, that is probably a BIG red flag.


I guess I can see that might red flag them but it never crossed my mind it would be a problem. I had talked to a guy at USCIS and he said I could file as soon as the divorce was final.
I guess it's like the IRS....you can't believe what they tell you cause you would get a different answer from a different person. But if they read the emails we submitted they will see
that there is nothing going on other than a normal healthy relationship.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 10:52:00
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I have no problem with what you are saying. But I supplied emails between Teaw and I back to from April of 08 after the ex and I had agreed that the divorce was best for both of us. I only had chats going back to September before the divorce. So I established the relationship existed before I was able to get back over and get the divorce done and by the time I got the divorce done we had already decided to file for the visa after I got home in
October. If you met Teaw you would know without a doubt this is no fraud case. Before our relationship changed from being friends to a more serious one she never mentioned to me about getting a visa and coming here. Of course she wants to come here and be with me now and if they take time to read all of the email and chats she gave them Monday they will see it in her writings and mine too. I did email them and ask them the status and said if they
had any questions or if I could assist them in any way to not hesitate to contact me. The divorce had absolutely nothing to do with Teaw...and the ex knew I had met Teaw in person and that we chatted. The divorce came about
because of the ex's turning psycho ###### about two months after we got married and every time she got mad for stupid nothing reasons...and that was often...she would say she wanted her freedom or a divorce. Well, she got her wish.
Turns out she was meeting guys, chatting with them online and never telling them she was married or had a boyfriend and I have a couple chats from right after we were married and right before I went to see her in April 09 of her chatting with two different men....and the last one telling him she loved him, missed him, blah blah blah. I would have divorced her in April but she flipped out in her psycho mode she developed and grabbed a knife and I thought she was going to try to cut me. She is a strong woman working out several hours every day, doing yoga and lifting light weights. I did not want to have to fend off a knife. She then wanted to cut her wrists and it took awhile to
get the knife out of her hand but I did.....and slept with one eye open the rest of the trip. She really freaked me out and I told her I was afraid of what she might do. So I never mentioned divorcing in April and waited until I
got home so she could vent in emails and text messages and I would be safe. Funny thing is, she quickly realized that's what she wanted anyway, we should not have gotten married and she put down on the paper at the Amphur office the reason for the divorce was "seeing another man". She thought it was funny. But if the embassy wants an explanation I am more than happy to give it to them but they haven't asked and I don't think I should volunteer any more than they ask for. Oh, well, enough of my soap opera!!! LOL
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 10:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & ProceduresSAWASDEE 3 (2009 Thai thread restarted)
The divorce was done in Oct 2009 and a certified registered translated copy was included with the initial filing. She got the 221g after her initial interview and they had checked more evidence of relationship, photos, etc. So on Monday she took in about 300 pages of emails, over 130 pages of chats, 70 or more photos, some phone bills she was able to get from AIS and my most recent cell phone bill to add to the other ones they had from the initial stuff.
What should it matter about the other divorce as long as it was done and over with? Should not be a concern of theirs. It was all done legally at the Amphur office.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 10:02:00
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I would think if they were doing background checks on you, Tom, it would have been at the VSC. So maybe questioning your relationship and they want to check out something along those lines then? These are just random thoughts. It's hard to guess.


Well, I was married to another Thai lady for a little over a year, mostly because I had to wait to get back over there before we could go get the divorce done at the Amphur office. They did ask her about it at the
interview but she only knows what little she wanted to know about it and that's it. She doesn't really care about the ex. The marriage deteriorated quickly about two months into it and Teaw and I picked up our
relationship as we had known each other for about a year before I made the mistake of getting married. But I explained in my letter that we knew each other and were friends until my situation changed in April of last year.
Oh, well, we will just have to wait it out and see what happens and hope they don't take too long.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 09:49:00
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Man, there is nothing to check on her. She is squeaky clean. Been working for Western Digital for 14 years and living alone all that time. Just visits her family in Buriram when she can.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 09:39:00
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Wouldn't they at least tell you that's what they were doing? And what exactly are they doing during all that time, do you know?
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 09:35:00
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then it sounds like you are in AP.............what is AP? I am sure it won't be until sometime after Songkran since they are closed 4 days next week.
She did take quite a bit of stuff Monday.
Tom and TeawMaleThailand2010-04-07 09:32:00