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IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDifferences with spouse or fiance.
QUOTE (Paula&Minya @ Jan 18 2008, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (trailmix @ Jan 18 2008, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, I don't know if you are looking for advice, but my suggestion would be to tell your fiance EVERYTHING you hear from USCIS and everything you hear about USCIS. I would encourage him to join VJ. The more he knows about this process the better it will be.

Good luck good.gif


Yup, what trailmix said! good.gif

Unless the foreign fiancee/spouse has had to go through some sort of immigration or visa getting process in their home country, they have no inkling...no frame of reference. We may think we're sparing them by not going into extreme detail about the process, but if they don't know what this entails, and only get bits and pieces, of course that it may seem incredible to them. I was lucky, my fiancee (now hubby) went through the process of getting conditional residency in Hungary before we began our 'journey' so he was somewhat familiar w/ the bureaucracy. So when I told him about the inefficiency, inconsistency and insanity that is USCIS, he understood and didn't argue. smile.gif

Good luck,
-P



My fiance is always saying"The USA just can't be like that,I don't believe it,Panama is like that,not the USA." So when I try to convince him otherwise,we start arguing.I'll never forget the time we fought on the IM. laughing.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-18 13:47:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDifferences with spouse or fiance.
QUOTE (trailmix @ Jan 18 2008, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Jan 18 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Topo Gigio is so cute.We end up arguing over the outlandish stories USCIS tells me about our case.


smile.gif Sorry I called you a he and you are a she.

Well we don't argue about USCIS stuff, but we both live together in Canada, so my Husband knows all about this process.

I suspect her frustration is with USCIS and not you, hence the arguments - if you were on the receiving end of this stuff, not getting it first hand, it would be even more annoying I should think - you would probably think - that makes no sense and be frustrated with the other person for not forcing USCIS to give you some 'normal' or 'sensible' answer - just my thoughts.

I never had to contact USCIS about our IR1, and I'm glad. However - when I was documenting my US Citizenship I spoke with them many times - it was just as frustrating and pointless calling as it is when you call about immigration. I had many conversations with many people who had no idea what they were talking about or just didn't bother to listen.

The best story is the time I finally called the toll line they have here for USCIS information - I was calling about the N-600 (certificate of citizenship). I don't remember how much they charge a minute, but I was on hold for a long time. When I finally got through the person didn't know what an N-600 was, I ended up having to explain it to them and it cost me $36 to do that!

Anyway, I don't know if you are looking for advice, but my suggestion would be to tell your fiance EVERYTHING you hear from USCIS and everything you hear about USCIS. I would encourage him to join VJ. The more he knows about this process the better it will be.

Good luck good.gif


The thing of it is some people in Panama think so highly of the USA,that they just cannot beleive that the USCIS could fall behind,mess up,or tell people stories.They really do not know how the system works here so they think the USA is perfect.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-18 13:35:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionTravel to Armenia safe?
QUOTE (Rail @ Dec 6 2007, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been to Bogota and found it to be more secure than my own home town. I am planning a trip to Armenia to see my fiancee and was wondering how safe it would be for a gringo. My fiancee wants me to come but is always overly protective and makes me worry a little when there is not much need to. Anyway, let me know what your thoughts are about going there. Thanks


Definitely.Not too long ago there was a documentary on CARACOL TV.It said that the highest percentage of expats living in Colombia are from the USA.Most of my friends are "paisas" and they manage to make it back home at least once a year if not more.Have fun,Colombia is a very stunning country.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-11 22:21:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPictures enclosed in my K-1 visa package
QUOTE (kitkat @ Jul 2 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question and hope someone can help me.

Do you think I'll have any problems because I did not label all of the pictures I sent with the I-129F application? I did date and gave a brief explanation on some of them, but not all. In total I sent 13 pictures but only labeled like 6. It so happens my finace and I go way back since I was 14 years old and he was 15. So some pictures are old and I did not remember dates. I just vaguely labeled them.

The reason i'm asking is because I read on this forum that you should label the pictures with your name and your fiance's names, date, and a brief explanation. My package was in the mail by the time I read this.

Anyone have any feedback on this?

Thank you,
KitKat


Me and my fiance go way back also.I was 11,he was 5.I never labeled any of the pictures I sent.I was not aware that it was necessary.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-19 19:26:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAfter receiving the NOA 2
QUOTE (DavidsPrincess @ Jan 27 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after you get NOA2, your petition will be sent to NVC. You can call them with your USCIS case number (the number for NVC is provided on your NOA2) until you get a new one assigned, just to see if they have received it yet (if you are impatient like me wink.gif ). Otherwise, you will receive a letter from NVC whenever they have forwarded your case to the consulate. Because you went through Vermont, I would expect you to receive this letter within 2 weeks of receiving your NOA2. After your petition is sent to the consulate, your fiance will receive Packet3 with a list of papers and forms he needs to have in order before requesting an interview date.


Thanks.Yes I am very impatient especially since thay are taking forever now.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-27 17:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAfter receiving the NOA 2
QUOTE (DavidsPrincess @ Jan 27 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after you get NOA2, your petition will be sent to NVC. You can call them with your USCIS case number until you get a new one assigned, just to see if they have received it yet. (if you are impatient like me wink.gif ). Otherwise, you will receive a letter from NVC whenever they have forwarded your case to the consulate. Because you went through Vermont, I would expect you to receive this letter within 2 weeks of receiving your NOA2. After your petition is sent to the consulate, your fiance will receive Packet3 with a list of papers and forms he needs to have in order before requesting an interview date.


Someone told me that in Panama,my fiance would have to go to the counsalate and get the packet.How is he going to know when and whether the packet is available ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-27 15:18:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAfter receiving the NOA 2
Do I get something in the mail or does my fiance ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-27 15:05:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionInterview in Panama
QUOTE (kitkat @ Jan 24 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello,

Has anyone out there, gone through this process in the country of Panama?

We just got out NOA2 and I'm trying to find out what's next.

thanks for any info.


No,paisano.I'm trying to figure that one out myself.I haven't even gotten my NOA2 as of yet.What I have heard is that they get their packet in the mail and then have to go to the former Fort Clayton for the interview.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-01-24 19:17:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionAffidavit question
QUOTE (stephandmuz @ Feb 15 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is probably going to sound silly, but I have to ask because I'm becoming paranoid about it. I completed the affidavit of support form today and had the notary sgn and put the seal on it. The dilema; She used blue ink instead of black. Does it matter? blink.gif

Thanks

Steph


I don't think it will pose a problem.I told the man to use black ink and he did the exact opposite. wacko.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-02-15 21:14:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPassive Aggressive behavior from consulate workers
QUOTE (leereyno @ Feb 20 2008, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My fiancee and I have been dealing with the London Consulate for over a year now. They continually pretend to lose forms that we have submitted to them. We see no benefit in continuing to pretend that they are acting in good faith.

Has anyone else here had similar problems from this consulate, or from other consulates?

How did you deal with it?

Thanks


When I called the US Consulate in Panama to see if my fiance's paperwork had arrived,they hung up on me.Not only once but three times. mad.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-02 10:39:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPacket 3 question
QUOTE (YuAndDan @ Mar 13 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you do find out more, you may want to help every one out and update this page: http://www.visajourn...e...&cty=Panama


I wish I could get time off of work to accompany him on the interview.Since they sent hin all the papers in English,he doesn't understand them,so I am trying to help him fill them over the phone. blink.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-13 11:53:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionPacket 3 question
Is it the DS-156,156K,157,and what else ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-13 10:33:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionChildren under 21 question
QUOTE (PEGGY @ Mar 15 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didnt he read the forms filled out before he signed them?


They are in English and he doesn't read English.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-15 18:12:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionChildren under 21 question
QUOTE (PEGGY @ Mar 15 2008, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does he know you only listed one child?


Um,not yet. unsure.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-15 18:06:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionChildren under 21 question
I only put his oldest daughter on the petition because I really dread the thought of having the others show up at my doorstep in the future.Will there be a problem if he lists them on his packet #3 forms ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-15 17:50:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionW-2 question
QUOTE (Mrs. Scott @ Mar 21 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Mar 21 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I already sent them two years of income tax returns.



Panamania,
The Embassy asks for the same documents over and over again. If you can accompany your fiance that would be great. Here's my check list. Be sure to bring the following to the interview-


Check List for Kevin and Kelia

DS-156 (2 copies)

Kevin’s passport

Kevin’s passport pictures (2)

Kevin’s medical exam

Kevin’s birth certificate

Kevin & Kelia’s marriage certificate

Kevin’s police certificate

I-134 (Affidavit of Support)

bank statements

pay stubs

Visa Receipt ($100 US) I think the fee has increased to $131. Check your Packet 3 for more information.

DS-3052 Non-Immigrant V Visa Application

Proof of a relationship (e.g. photos, boarding passes, hotel receipts, e-mails, etc).

DS-230 (In Jamaica, they asked for it at the interview. I have no idea why. We had already submitted it to the interview. I had another copy any way.

Bring copies of your NOA-1 & NOA-2. I h

Be overprepared. Don't give the Embajada any reason to ask you to return.

Happy Easter!

Cuidate,

Kelia


Thank you,and Happy Good Friday and Easter.I've got everything except bank statements......mi broke gial.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-21 20:14:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionW-2 question
When I already sent them two years of income tax returns.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-03-21 13:57:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionVisa question
I was just wondering.Is it a month or a couple of weeks ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-08 22:48:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWill affidavit of support be mailed to me?
QUOTE (sanfranguy @ Apr 14 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dont forget to have it notarized too. i gave my fiance 1 original notarized affidavit and 1 copy to take to the interview.


Also make sure you be careful to not make any mistakes while filling it out.I whited out an error and they asked that I send in a new one.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-14 22:49:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionWill affidavit of support be mailed to me?
QUOTE (VictoriaUSA @ Apr 14 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know that the affidavit of support is needed for the interview, right? How do I receive one? How many weeks before the interview should I expect one?




I had to dowload mine.They didn't send me anything at all. unsure.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-14 22:42:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionSpanish Divorce Documents
QUOTE (Susan&Diego @ Apr 20 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey everyone!
Let us start by introducing ourselves... We're Diego and Susan and after having dated 7 years ago, when I moved to Colombia to attend college and my later moving back to the US, we found each other again and are now embarking on our own K1 odyssey. It seems so very long and a lot of work, but at the end it's soooo worth it! Any advice or words of support are, of course, very welcome.

It's fantastic to find so many others who, like us, can relate to all that comes with filing a K1, K3, etc. So, yeah, We have a question that I hope someone here can answer or suggest a solution.

I have my divorce documents from a previous marriage, but they're in Spanish. How should I include these in the initial package to USCIS: Spanish original, just notarized translation, or both?

Thanks to all,
Susan


Both me and my SO were previously married.I translated everything myself and sent it in with my I-129f,they accepted it.Suerte,pues. wink.gif

Edited by panamania79, 20 April 2008 - 08:04 AM.

panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-20 08:03:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (lucyrich @ Apr 25 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The counsalate gave him a paper which said he was denied because of code 212(a)(2)(A)(i).Which I have NO idea what it means.


This is VERY valuable information, because it tells you what they think the problem is, which is the first step in figuring out a solution.

You can look up that string of numbers by going to uscis.gov, clicking on laws/regulations, clicking on the Immigration and Nationality Act. Look up Chapter 212, section (a), etc.

But I've done it for you:

QUOTE
(2) Criminal and related grounds.-


(A) Conviction of certain crimes.-


(i) In general.-Except as provided in clause (ii), any alien convicted of, or who admits having committed, or who admits committing acts which constitute the essential elements of-


(I) a crime involving moral turpitude (other than a purely political offense or an attempt or conspiracy to commit such a crime), or


(II) a violation of (or a conspiracy or attempt to violate) any law or regulation of a State, the United States, or a foreign country relating to a controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)), is inadmissible.



It looks like they believe he either committed a crime involving moral turpitude, or a violation of law relating to a controlled substance. I believe you're looking at an I-601 waiver.

Note that getting married won't solve the problem; he'll still have the crime on his record.


No.It had nothing to do with drugs.Thank you for giving me the meaning of that code.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-25 20:04:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We were wondering about the type of waiver, but you already answered that wink.gif with your recent posts.

Forget my post #20 ( I thought you were talking about the I-212 waiver)

So the lawyer is saying you can not file this waiver because he is your fiance and not your spouse? Am I getting that right?

If so, then read the info. I gave you on post #17 .In my opinion, you can file that waiver even when you are not married, you just have to follow the "special instructions for K-1 or K-2" that the same instructions explain.

I hope that someone with experience on filing this type of waiver can read this and confirm that you can. Why don't you post on the Waivers forum?


I did already and someone answered my question,I just hadn't looked at it.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 22:55:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 24 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The counsalate gave him a paper which said he was denied because of code 212(a)(2)(A)(i).Which I have NO idea what it means.The lawyer said that a fiance cannot do a waiver but the man at the embassy said that I could.He asked my fiance for a bunch of things and said he would have to interview him again.


Then why did you mention something about I-601 waiver on your other post? I guess that makes it ALL different then! wacko.gif

You got a lot of reading to do girl! Search the instructions for I-212 on the link I gave you, and find out if you can file it or not. All the forms are on the USCIS website.



Thank you.Acabo de leer las instrucciones.I'm sorry,tengo los nervios hecho "M." wacko.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 22:13:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 24 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The counsalate gave him a paper which said he was denied because of code 212(a)(2)(A)(i).Which I have NO idea what it means.The lawyer said that a fiance cannot do a waiver but the man at the embassy said that I could.He asked my fiance for a bunch of things and said he would have to interview him again.


Then why did you mention something about I-601 waiver on your other post? I guess that makes it ALL different then! wacko.gif

You got a lot of reading to do girl! Search the instructions for I-212 on the link I gave you, and find out if you can file it or not. All the forms are on the USCIS website.


Because this is the waiver they told him I could do for him. unsure.gif


QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ Apr 24 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
eric_and_teresa, I guess I missed her other post. blush.gif


Yes, it is very hard to give advise her when we don't have all the necessary information on this thread sad.gif

Pana, you need to give us the background info. too so we can help you smile.gif



What kind of info do you need ?
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 22:08:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ZeeNusah @ Apr 24 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you eligible to file a waiver? Maybe that is why they said your case was still open.

At the cousalate they said yes,but an attorney I spoke to here said no. wacko.gif So I really don't know.



Panamania, what were the reasons that the attorney gave you when he said it is not possible to file the waiver (I-601).

If he said that you can not file it because you are not married, that is not true. K-1 applicants CAN file that type of waiver according to the instructions on the I-601 Apllication for a Waiver Form.

QUOTE
Who May File This Form?

1. An immigrant visa applicant;

2. Any applicant for adjustment of status;

3. A K-1 or K-2 nonimmigrant visa applicant (see Special Instructions);


4. A K-3, K-4, or V nonimmigrant visa applicant;

5. A Temporary Protected Status (TPS) applicant;

6. A Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) applicant;

7. A Haitian Refugee Immigrant Fairness Act (HRIFA) applicant;

8. A Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) self-petitioner

who is inadmissible to the United States pursuant to the Immigration Nationality Act (INA) section 212 and who seeks a waiver of the following grounds of inadmissibility:

A.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 21:58:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (Nagishkaw @ Apr 24 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (kunle @ Apr 24 2008, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
File a waiver and ask for list of what they want from you. The embassy always like to waste people's time. Most time he will get it the second time. If not just go the i-130 route.

That is bad advise. They cannot just do a K-3 when their K-1 is still in the system.



So what do I do then ? unsure.gif helpsmilie.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 20:37:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (ZeeNusah @ Apr 24 2008, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 24 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (karvy02 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did they give the rationale for the denial?


It's because he did something stupid 15 years ago.We paid a lawyer to get his record expunged,yet it showed up anyway and he was denied.But they told him his case wasn't closed which I find very odd. unsure.gif



Have you tried getting in touch with the consulate to see what you can do?



No.It's impossible to get through to them,they hang up on people.I'm going to go there IN PERSON.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 20:26:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (karvy02 @ Apr 24 2008, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did they give the rationale for the denial?


It's because he did something stupid 15 years ago.We paid a lawyer to get his record expunged,yet it showed up anyway and he was denied.But they told him his case wasn't closed which I find very odd. unsure.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 19:55:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (kunle @ Apr 24 2008, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
File a waiver and ask for list of what they want from you. The embassy always like to waste people's time. Most time he will get it the second time. If not just go the i-130 route.



Thank you for your positive and encouraging comment.I am planning to go the I-130 route. good.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 19:53:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
QUOTE (ZeeNusah @ Apr 24 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you eligible to file a waiver? Maybe that is why they said your case was still open.



At the cousalate they said yes,but an attorney I spoke to here said no. wacko.gif So I really don't know.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 19:05:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionConsalate question
I don't understand this.They denied my fiance's visa but they told him the case was still open.They gave him his passport without punching it.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 18:58:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (john_and_marlene @ Apr 28 2008, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume that he checked the box on the DS-156 that said he had never been arrested or convicted in section 38. If so, you may find that even a waiver may not be of help. To check that block NO when the true answer was yes is considered material misrepresentation which is grounds to deny any future U.S. entry.

38. Have you ever been arrested or convicted for any offense or crime, even though subject of a pardon, amnesty or other
similar legal action?


You assumed wrong because he checked YES, and showed them his expunged record.It showed up in their computer anyway.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-28 09:55:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (bengalilover @ Apr 25 2008, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Staashi: that's a great encouraging story. Wish you very happy married life!

Good luck for Panam? What are the reasons for denial?



Because he committed a robbery 15 years ago.We paid a lawyer to expunge his record yet it still showed up.They gave him the option of doing a I-601 waiver.They said they would interview him again.I am going to Panama to see how I can help.

QUOTE (Staashi @ Apr 25 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why did they deny it? What did they say he did wrong or not have in order? I would also suggest that the next time he has his interview that you be there. Nothing says lovin' like an international trip for the fiance visa. We went through the ringer for our K1 interview.

Here was our story:
I attended my fiance's (now husband) in Buenos Aires. I think it just helps to give validation to the relationship if your USC fiance flies around the world to be with you at the interview. It was good that I was there, as I don't think she would have approved the visa. Initially, she had some questions for me and then she spoke directly with him for a while.

Our interviewer was a real pill, too. At one point, she said that she would deny his visa application because I didn't have copies of my 2002 - 2003 tax returns. I said that they weren't required in the application, which she proceeded to tell me that consulars retain the right to ask for anything they deem necessary. She basically said that there was no way to circumvent this and that I would be leaving Argentina before she could process Gustavo's visa, as they were closed on Friday - I was leaving Sunday, and it was Thursday. Fortunately, I had done all of my tax filing on Turbo Tax and was able to go to an internet cafe and print them off for her.

When we went back to the embassy later on that day, she was shocked to see us, but moreover, it shocked the heck out of her that I my tax returns in hand. She finally said that she would approve his visa, but she wanted to talk with me in private first. She asked if I knew what I was doing? I was so disgusted by this time, but I finally told her - Are you Catholic? She said what did that have to do with anything? I said, are you? She said yes. I said have you ever been engaged to be married in the Catholic Church? She said no. I said, well when you finally go before your priest to tell him that you want to be married in the Church, prepare for the Spanish Inquisition. It is worse than the Embassy interview. I told her that her priest will have all sorts of questions and tests to justify her relationship. Furthermore, I pointed out my letter from our priest that explained the examination of conscience that I had to go through. I told her, if we're ready to be married in the eyes of the Church I think that means we're ready to be married in the eyes of the US Government. She approved our visa after that.

All I can tell you is be prepared for anything.

And now here we are...three and a half years later and applying for citizenship!

Good luck!



Very encouraging story,I am so glad you made it through that ordeal.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-25 20:09:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 24 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any news yet? How did it go? I hope it all went fine good.gif


They denied the visa. crying.gif



I'm so sorry to hear this. I read your other posts about the waiver that was required.

I hope you guys are able to get it all sorted out, it would be also a good idea to consult with a lawyer.

Good luck!


I can't do the waiver because we're not married.Oh well,that will change soon. whistling.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-24 16:01:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (eric_and_teresa @ Apr 21 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any news yet? How did it go? I hope it all went fine good.gif


They denied the visa. crying.gif
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-22 20:28:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Apr 20 2008, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 20 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Apr 20 2008, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 20 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or are there any options ?



A denial is not a denial is not a denial. Some denials aren't even denials.

Depending on the reason for the non-positive initial result the options will vary.

An actual notice of intent to deny (NOID) generally requires an attorney in country to try to intervene. Otherwise the USCIS tends to take the easy way out and simply let the approved petition expire.

Then you marry and start over, or move to the fiance(e)'s country and live happily ever after etc.

Is he asking you if you love him enough to move to his country?



No.I want to relocate there anyway, that was already discussed.He wants to know if they don't give him the visa tomorrow,if there is any way he can ever get it eventually.


Ok and the answer is yes but it depends on the reason. If he misrepresents facts, it will be a long time before he sees the USA. Otherwise there are numerous viable options depending on the circumstances surrounding thin negative initial result.


That's not an issue here,he's just nervous about the whole thing.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-20 17:25:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (pushbrk @ Apr 20 2008, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 20 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or are there any options ?



A denial is not a denial is not a denial. Some denials aren't even denials.

Depending on the reason for the non-positive initial result the options will vary.

An actual notice of intent to deny (NOID) generally requires an attorney in country to try to intervene. Otherwise the USCIS tends to take the easy way out and simply let the approved petition expire.

Then you marry and start over, or move to the fiance(e)'s country and live happily ever after etc.

Is he asking you if you love him enough to move to his country?



No.I want to relocate there anyway, that was already discussed.He wants to know if they don't give him the visa tomorrow,if there is any way he can ever get it eventually.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-20 17:16:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (~Laura and Nick~ @ Apr 20 2008, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (panamania79 @ Apr 20 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm the one who's positive right now.He called me all depressed and asked me this.I didn't have an answer,so that's why I'm asking you's.


That's ok.It's just me using my Southern New England slang.
You's is our version of y'all.

Sorry about that.

Must....resist....correcting....grammar.... girlwerewolf2xn.gif

LOL

Anyway....tell your man not to stress too much. If you have everything in order proving you have a bona fide relationship, you should be just fine.
Good Luck smile.gif

panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-20 11:46:00
US Embassy and Consulate DiscussionIf someone's K-1 visa gets denied
QUOTE (GabachaYucateca @ Apr 20 2008, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think positive, mami! If your fiance has everything in order, there should be no reason for a denial!



I'm the one who's positive right now.He called me all depressed and asked me this.I didn't have an answer,so that's why I'm asking you's.
panamania79FemalePanama2008-04-20 11:37:00