ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Asia: East and PacificWhat's going in Saigon Now?
OP found out his girl wasn't banging anyone that he knows of.... Just a gut-check... Damn internet-lacking!!!!! I can't imagine when he actually lives with her, they probably will never leave the house. :unsure:
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-03-23 06:27:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat's going in Saigon Now?
By the way, i'm taking order for the special Micro Chip OP mentioned on the last post. Hope he can give you guys a Special "Group Buy" discount.

Attention those whose fiancee and wifes are still back home, this could be your dream machine, enhenced your cybersex experience.

Starting order:

anyone?
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-03-15 11:16:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat's going in Saigon Now?
Thai Pham,

I don't know if you ever looked up the word: BANG. Here
BANG: ?ánh m?nh, ??p m?nh

5: have sexual intercourse with; "This student sleeps with
everyone in her dorm"; "Adam knew Eve" (know is archaic);
"Were you ever intimate with this man?" [syn: love, {make
out}, make love, sleep with, get laid, have sex, know,
do it, be intimate, have intercourse, have it away,
have it off, screw, ######, jazz, eff, hump, {lie
with}, bed, have a go at it, get it on, bonk]

If I were you, I would have stopped using this word BANG anywhere near my "fiance".

BTW, "?n V?ng" and all, cheating is not justifiable no matter who does it Thai! If you've done it as you claimed, it doesn't make it right for her to do it now, does it? Truely wish you two sort this whole "Banging" business out and rest assure you choose the right match.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-03-14 09:36:00
Asia: East and PacificWhat's going in Saigon Now?
Thai Pham,

All jokes aside, the internet infrustructure in VN, not just in Saigon, is completely unacceptable to US QoS (Quality of Service) standard. If we can agree on this fact, then we can continue this conversation. If you want DSL to your house, guess what they do, they will run a cable from the lamp post right outside of your house, into the computer desk in your living room. Speaking of safety, zero! :) You remember every lamp post in Saigon is wired up with 100's of other wires to/from it? I have picture to prove. To make the matter worse, internet and broadband connection is owned and operated by the government, there is no privately owned backbone lines in vietnam. There may be retailer ISP who essentially resale the DSL service to the customer. But all the T1, T3 and transoceanic cables going in and out of VN owned by the government. Recently, they just brought into service a direct line running between US and VN (right into downtown LA), with that news, we may have a little bit of improvement with connectivity to/from VN.

With that in mine, still the phone service and gateways are still under reconstruction. Notice how everyone uses mobilefone instead of landline these days? it's cheaper to put up a celltower, rather than digging up the ground to lay the cables. Internet will be improved but not anytime soon. VietTel (military's telecom sector) is the bigger and stronger group in VN, verse VNPT, the civilian sector of telecom service in VN. With these two players in place, who trying to grab each other existing customers, flexing their political support and power in the communicaiton and telecom industry, the user/customer end up suffered the lack of real service. I truely hope it will resolve and the fight will be over between them.

Back to your issue, face that fact you will have periods of complete black out during high-demand hours (business hours, holidays) where the limited amount of phone switches in VN will not be able to handle the volume. Mobilefone is OK, but spotty at best, just like in the US. The further she is from Saigon, the less reliable it is for her mobifone service, in my experience with mine. Internet service will be as good as the bamboo stick is hung from the lamp post into her house. Windy, rainny hot day could cause issue with the DSL. Or sometime they just randomly shut off your service without warning, calling support line is a test of patient, you will lose! hahahaha :D
So, if you call your honey and she is not there, so what, she might be taking a royal... you know what. I know I don't pick up my phone when I'm in my "zone" and talking on the phone while you are "throwning" is so rude :) and kinda disgusting. She might be having a family meeting/gathering. How about: she was involved in a motobike accident and admitted to the hospital (godforbid). Think righteous and think with humility. You would be so sorry to even thought she was cheating on you with someone else!

What you and her did in the past, doesn't matter at this point anymore, at least that's how I run my camp :) Whoever you were banging or she was back in the day, they obviously weren't all that great anyway. Otherwise, you two wouldn't be here at this junction, would you? Therefore, my thoughts to you Thai Pham, move on and clear that off your head brother, if she is yours, she is yours. Thinking negatively about your future wife isn't helping this whole process a whole lot, you will face more issue and problem during your Visa Journey, that is a certainty I will guarantee you. Think it through before you make any further doubt and judgement and proceed with extra care for it is so much work, money, and effort to get this visa for someone you may have doubt of personality and character.

Hope you find this post is no use by the time you read it, hope that everything is normal and A-OK :)

Love,

chuck and kim
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-03-12 06:08:00
Asia: East and PacificBlue
Thai-Pham is notorious for writing messages in Vietnamese HAHAHAHA! :thumbs:
Philip, do what they ask and wait for the answer. I want to share with you a little trick I used when I went through the very same process... Think like a US Consulate Officer!!!!!

Here is what I would think and question your case If I were the C.O.
1. Gosh, how many fruit cakes can one be eating?
2. Asking me to see your website at the interview is pointless, You should have shown everything you want me to see and support it in your application with solid evidence.
3. Seem to be too good to be true, everything goes by the book in your case. Fruit cakes for every holidays!!!!


I'm just kidding with you Philip, but seriously, you need to stay very focus at this point and what is the speicific reason(s) they use to delay/request for more info from you? Please share!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-04-16 12:42:00
Asia: East and PacificPermanent address ( Ho^. Kha^?u)
Ho Khau is where she is legally registered (Birth Certificate, ID Card etc) it's also the address they use to trace and issue her PASSPORT if she didn't already apply and receive one!

Residency: Where is temporary living, which she is also registered with the local police (Cong An Phuong) for her residency status (Tam Tru - Tam Vang)

Your application has her "residency" address which is OK for mailing and correspondence purpose. Must have her "LEGAL RESIDENCY" address for G325.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-11 07:06:00
Asia: East and Pacificp o e
CBP comprises two groups:

Immigration Officer and the Custom Officer

Immigration Officer's job: to inspect your document to make sure you have the correct Visa, stamp your passport and I-94 etc.
Custom Officer's job: to inspect your luggages, make sure you don't bring in any decomposed fishes and meat, vegetable and seeds, or drugs, including but not limited to prescription med.

Basically, it depends what you bring in the country with you and how big of the immigration line is that day when your wife and you enter the US. Don't book your connection flight too close to your initial entry.

Good luck and just focus on getting her here safely! Don't lose the Passport with her Visa inside, don't pack her brown envelope along with her checked-in luggage and you should be fine!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-11 07:14:00
Asia: East and PacificHCM Package 3

My wife went to the info desk at the consulate and picked up the package. I guess we will have to wait another 2 months or so for package 4 now. We have all the other papers ready. Thank you all for your help.


Please confirm that your wife has returned the P3 to HCMC? Based on your response, no where it says she did! If you didn't return P3, P4 will never arrive! JUST FYI
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-07 07:33:00
Asia: East and PacificWedding ceremony (no paperwork) and the interview
Ready, read what Vietnam Government Law says about marriage:

Marry A Vietnam National

If you plan to go through and complete all of the requirement here throu this link, they you are MARRIED in Vietnam and by Vietnamese government. Legally and technically you are married and no longer qualified for K-1 Visa. Your journey doesn't end here, just think of it as: upgrade to a different class of flight :) Should be applying all over for a K-3 instead.

So, I don't argue with anyone here, just go by the fact: you can have your wedding all you want, can even tell the C.O. you have a huge wedding ceremony and reception. All C.O. will care is: did you or did you not get a Marriage Certificate from the Vietnamese Interior Dept? If the answer is YES, you will not get to apply for a K-1, but need to apply for a K-3 or other class of Visa.

There is nothing to it to argue :D

Have fun throwing a huge wedding ceremony!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-11 07:00:00
Asia: East and PacificSomething is wrong with the HCMC Consulate!!!
what's wrong with you Thai Pham? Nothing wrong with HCMC!!!!! Waiting is the name of the game! BTW, your tax dollar does pay for this service, but this is a privilege to have the ability to sponsor your fiancé here to the US to marry you, it is NOT your rights. So get back in line and stop speaking and acting like a FOB. Dooo dzu under-xi-tand meee?
:devil:
:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Edited by chuckandkim, 13 June 2007 - 11:10 AM.

chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-13 11:09:00
Asia: East and PacificVaccinations for AOS
Hi Anh Map,

Not sure if the I-693 is a requirement now, officially, or not. But to solve the question of: should I or shouldn't I, we did get the sup-vac done for $10.

here to find your closest Civil Surgeon:

https://egov.uscis.g...office_type=CIV

Good luck! and NO, your VAC record in Vietnam is NOT a complete record of Vacination, therefore you need the Sup-Vac I-693 to show them your wife have all the required vac done! Good luck!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-21 13:26:00
Asia: East and PacificGot some news from HCM Consulate.

Thank you so much CK&Tydi.
With Lots of love


Hi Hang&Kevin,

You can see my whole interview in my blog for your attention. Here it is: http://my.opera.com/...view-successful

Hope you get your interview day soon.

Lan&Mike



Lan, congratulation on your interview. Try to get to the State quick...... and tell Mike to submit for a green card application for you quicckkkkkkkkkkkkkk. After July 30, 2007, the fee will increase from $395 to $1010. ;)

quick question:

can my fiance apply for her greencard before arriving to america? We will have a traditional wedding in vietnam in September.


The answer is NO, you can not apply for a greencard until you are physically and legally enter the US. At least one document the DHS will require: I-94 with POE stamp. You can not get that information until you actually arrive and go throu US-CBP

The increase in the fee from $395 to $1010: need to understand it hasn't been increased for years and now the fee will include other services, not just for the Green Card Application. So, it works out quite nicely!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-21 13:42:00
Asia: East and PacificPolice Certificate question
It depends on the local police, or if the beneficiary lived in a 3rd country more than 6 months after he/she turned 16, then he/she will also need a PC from that 3rd country also. Some countries are excluded from the PC-Requirement list! Check with your specific Consulate for more detail.

Fingerprints wanted for most 3rd Country PC. For example, Kim needed the Local PC from Saigon Vietnam, no fingerprint required. But she must submit her FP for her Japan PC which took 6 weeks to get done! No prior records!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-21 13:46:00
Asia: East and PacificBirth Certificate (Vietnam)
Are you a USC?
If you are, you can apply for an Affidavit of Birth Certificate through your county court or your vital record department in your city/town/state.

In my personal experience and did exactly this route myself:
If you will be in Saigon, take a short trip to the Consulate with your US Passport, request to have an "Affidavit of Birth Certificate" done by the Consular in HCMC. Cost: $50 (3 years back). This "Affidavit of Birth Certificate" will be accepted in place of your original or certified copy of BC.

Remember, not to lose your focus and think "BIG PICTURE" (what and how to get the Visa, not how or what to do to get the Birth Certificate). You are not the first person who lost his BC, this is the way to get around it! Keep in mind, if you LIE about your birth record, there will be consequence to pay if they (US State Dept, DHS etc) find out.

Good luck!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-05-16 06:38:00
Asia: East and PacificGood luck to sealedkiss
Sealedkiss...

Have we got any news yet? We are praying for you...
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-27 07:42:00
Asia: East and PacificNeed Help about DS-230 Part I form.
We listed any school that Kim attended and obtained a Diplomat or Degree:

High School
Japanese Language School
University of Japan
Graduate School

Don't list: K-9th Grade.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-27 07:45:00
Asia: East and PacificHappy News!
AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Congratulations Hang and Kevin!

Now back to earth.... are you ready for this interview? do you feel OVER prepared for it? If you do, start it all over and cross all T's and dot all I's. Have fun doing it thou :) but stay focus until the big fat pink lady shows up!!! :thumbs:
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-27 07:41:00
Asia: East and PacificInterview passed
Thanks for sharing the story Sealedkiss! Good luck and get packing!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-27 12:49:00
Asia: East and PacificAbout My Income- Need your advices !!!

In 2004 I made about 25000 , in 2005, I made about 26000$ . In 2006 (last year) I made only 5500$ due to 4 trips to vietnam. I left the company as absence (didnt get paid while I was away, and I can come back after a period of time like 6 or 9 months something like that) . so my situation now is full time employed by IBM Corp, I also have a letter from my manager stated that I've been working for the company since 2004 and my rate is 18$/hour . so when my fiancee goes to the intview, can she bring my income tax of 2004, 2005 and the 2007 pay stubs plus my bank statement ? Do I need a co-sponsor for this case ?

Thank you in advance .


Just my opinion----I think you will be ok. There was only one year, (2006), that you were below guidelines. Now you have your letter from IBM stating that you are a full time employee. Even though you were below guidelines in 2006, NOW you are showing you are fully capable of supporting your future spouse. In the whole scheme of things they want to make sure that you can support your spouse in the future. I don't know, maybe a letter for the interview explaining income in 2006?

Of-course a co-sponser would take care of everything. But maybe that want be necessary.

I probably got you more confused. :unsure:

All of this is just my opinion, of-course.

Good luck my friend.

Randy


I can't agree more with you, your explaination is very clear and I totally agree! "In the whole schme of things, they want to make sure tha you can support yoru spuose in the future". YES, AMEN, that's it! There is NOT one single piece of evidence will hold the key to your wife's Visa approval, it's the totality of your strong support evidence of your case, or in short: your love story! Think Big Picture... what does the Consulate really want to see?

Working for IBM full-time with a solid healthy-insurance benefit is a big A+Plus for your case, IMO! As opposed to someone whose case relied on a co-sponsor to support them once the K-1 Beneficiary arrives in the US. Which one is more reliable? You, yourself or the cosponsor? I also believe most of the C.O. are reasonable and have seen more cases like this than we do, they can make a better judgement than most of us here. Remember, there are a lot more fraudulent cases than the real genuine ones.

Good luck
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-03-05 07:23:00
Asia: East and PacificNeed advice for Medical exam.
Only you can decide when and how long you will need to be in Saigon. First of all, your businessman will be arriving in Saigon for "moral support" at this point, only if your case gets complicated then his presence may become great help! Secondly, both of you are not from Saigon yourself, I would suggest you two come a week or two before the interview. Get yourself acquainted with the environment and get yourself together and focus on this interview. Family and friends can wait AFTER the interview to party. Nothing worse than coming all this way to find out in the end you don't get the PINK SLIP.

Get the Health Exam done 1 week before, this may take 1 day, then another day to pick up the result. Hower, IF they find issue with your health, ANYTHING, they can delay and request for more intrusive tests which can take months. Note: what I am telling you here is the WORST CASE SCENARIO, not everyone had, but some did, just give you a heads up.

Make sure your businessman bring ALL evidence of your "on-going" relationship, not just emails/chatlogs, but hand-writen letters he sent you and ones that you sent him. Photos and income support document. Basically, whatever you and him claim that your relationship is GENUINE, HCM Consulate wants to see proof to back it up! So make sure your businessman gets it!

Good luck and enjoy!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-28 06:26:00
Asia: East and PacificVietnam Passport for Vietnamese American Citizen
Dr. Ken is great!!!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-07-01 13:36:00
Asia: East and PacificVietnam Passport for Vietnamese American Citizen
HAHAHAHAHA Nguyen-Nguyen situation!!! :thumbs:
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-29 23:34:00
Asia: East and PacificVietnam Passport for Vietnamese American Citizen
Thanh,

True, you can not break the laws in any country, especially in Vietnam, and especially when you don't have money to pay your way around it! About the citizenship, I only have one, and one only: USC. Just a quick reminder, we did leave VN for a reason, and we also returned to VN for a reason. Whatever it may be to you or me, we did return!

As for getting a passport to save money on the Visa but just to get in and out of Custom/Immigration at Tan-Son-Nhat is the motive behind this question. But, to think of it, like some of you mentioned, it is not worth the effort and time. As far as I'm concern, USC will get me in and out most places quicker than others.

Former-President NVThieu, what a joke he was! Read your history, corrupted and coward, left the country failed without a fight! No need to mention his name around here. Thanks to him, my dad was a POW for 12 yrs and more.

You got that right, don't mess with VC, they own VN for the past 32 years and years to come!!!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-29 23:13:00
Asia: East and PacificVietnam Passport for Vietnamese American Citizen
OP answers you question: do I want to? the answer is NO.

However, IF you have not officially send the Vietnam Embassy or Consulate in DC/SF your "Renouncement of Vietnamese Citizenship", you are always a Vietnamese even if you carry a US Passport when you return to Vietnam. Therefore, there is always an option for the VN Govt. to "open yourself up for all sort of unpleasantness like mandatory military draft."

So, just a quick reminder to all of you Vietnamese Americans, make sure you have all your bases covered if you really paranoid like scy! Unless you were born in the US, you will always be a vietnamese citizen when you go back to Vietnam. I never said I don't want to be vietnamese citizen, I am a vietnamese american period! There are political differences but however you want to spin it, it's always the motherland to me and Philly has been my home for the most part of my life.

One can have two houses but only one home!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2007-06-25 09:50:00
Asia: East and PacificLittle more Packet 3/4 explaination
Hi Andrew,

Here is what we did:

Make photocopies of all required document, send them back with the DS230 Part I. When HCMC says do not send any document to this office, they meant the "ORIGINAL" documents, keep those with you for the actual interview. BUT you still need to show them at least the copied documents of those relevant official notarized documents you have ready at this stage (DS230 Part I).

Birth Certificate: For HCMC, your fiance needs yours and hers. Both document must be "original" and "certified" and "notarized".

Keep this in mind when you prepare for this interview: HCMC has its own set of rules and "unwriten and unspoken laws" when they deal with the vietnameses. Special treatment in some ways (NO THANK YOU, i say)

Hope this helps...
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-06 07:32:00
Asia: East and Pacificplease help me!



They need a waiver to explain about his situation. But wen dont know how to write it. and i think it's hard to approve with a waiver, rite? :(


The waiver is required for multiple I-129F petitions as indicated on the I-129F instructions.

It is a "letter of explanation" and it's not hard to approve.

http://www.visajourn...mp;#entry549842


If my fiance apply the waiver but they dont approve. that's mean i need to wait two years later then apply again rite? Does anyone have good idea?

Thanks alots


First thing first, if your USC filed a I-129F on your behalf, but they (???) USCIS(???) didn't approve. Then your USC must find out why and correct the issue. I don't know if you want to sit around doing nothing, waiting for 2 years and start the process again. I do not have any good idea how long you have to wait either. Each case is different!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-08 11:35:00
Asia: East and Pacificplease help me!
What happened to the 1st girlfriend? Did she get denied? Did he withdraw his petition for her K-1 Visa? If he hasn't done it yet. He needs to get that done first. They will deny your petition if he still has the 1st girlfriend's file floating somewhere.

Once he withdraws the K-1 Visa petition for the 1st girl, he can go ahead and file for you. Good luck with the process. Prepare to explain and answer a lot of questions from HCMC about the 1st petition since this could be a signal and redflag for frauds in the eye of HCMC.

To withdraw his petition, he needs to contact the Service Center where he originally filed her I-129F. Your boyfriend can search the address/contact information based on his STATE of residence and then he can contact them... go here: Service Center by STATE
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-06 07:49:00
Asia: East and PacificPacking tips for shipping boxes Overseas
I would most def. hand-carry my photo albums.... toys/books/clothes are replacable... not family pictures and thos "kodak moments".
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-09 11:30:00
Asia: East and Pacificwhat is DS 2000, DSK 1083K, etc
If I recall... HCMC wouldn't notify USC when they receive your physical files from NVC. HCMC wouldn't notify Beneficiary when they send Pack3 or Pack4, nor they would notify USC/Bene when they receive the returned DS forms.
Everything we find out about our cases, we had to email HCMC which caused someone there to look up our file and relevant information. I don't think HCMC has time or a system where they send out email or call or notify anyone anything!!!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-09 11:36:00
Asia: East and Pacificwhat is DS 2000, DSK 1083K, etc
DS-2000DS-2001

can't find DSL-1083K
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-09 09:21:00
Asia: East and PacificBirth Certificate Translate or NOT ?
Andrew and Thuy,

She can obtain her Certified BC or Ban Sao in HCM City's UBND (Cityhall).
She can have her BC translated by "So Tu Phap" located on Pastuer Street, on the corner of Pastuer and Nguyen Du's street I think...

Here is why even if the consulate doesn't need to see (which they do) Thuy's BC in English, you will need it for your AOS (Adjustment of Status) later when she is here in the States. It's easy, cheap and "official" document to have! Ask Thuy to have a few copies of her BC translated, sealed and certified by "So Tu Phap" for later use!

Good luck! If you try to make sense everything HCMC does, you'll go coo-coo! I know I did, then VJ straighten me out! hahaha
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-10 10:35:00
Asia: East and PacificDS 156K question
Why not show them the Bank Statement where the Check you paid for the Ring was withdrew.
Why not show them the Credit Card Statement where the Charge was made for the Ring.

The Way I look at it is: you need to show them the "Big Picture" of your relationship. It is an "on-going" relationship where proof of engagement and communication are the vital parts of the WHOLE relationship. So, tell your story well with solid and convincing evidence/proof. Keep that in mind when you go through the whole process, they want to see the Big Picture :D
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-10 14:38:00
Asia: East and PacificHow to fit Japanese Address on I-129F?


Kim lived in Japan for 8 years. We did have this issue. Here is how we get around it:

Address: 123 Panahaitsumokogaoka
4-56-78 Shukugahara
City: Kawashakishi
State: Kanagawaken 90-1234
Japan


Thanks for the info. So I guess we're going to have to hand write it? There's only one address field on I-129F, and it's a single line field. If I try to type it in, "123 Panahaitsumokogaoka 4-56-78 Shukugahara" is too long to fit in the field. "Kanagawaken 90-1234" doesn't fit into "State" either - should I put the 90-1234 part under Zip/Postal Code?

Basically here's the fields I have to work with:

Address - 35 characters
Apt. # - 11 characters
Town or City - 14 characters
State or Country - 14 characters
Zip/Postal Code - 14 characters

I've been trying, and maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem to be any way to logically group these elements into the given form - they're just too long. I've been playing Tetris with it for awhile, but to no avail :(

On a related note, is anyone else having problems with the fields for questions 18 and 19? They're illustrated to look like multi-line text fields (as some of the other fields on the form are), but they're actually single-line fields. I don't think a single line is enough to explain how I met my fiancee and when I most recently saw her. It appears to be a technical glitch with the form itself - I've tried three different PDF readers, including Adobe Acrobat, and had the same problem each time.

Thanks for the responses guys. It is appreciated enormously.

Cheers,
Sean


Sean,

Calm down :D hahahaha... just write as much as you can fit, if you run out of SQUARES on the form, be as it may. As I said, just make sure you have the City/STATE/Country clearly marked on the address area. US Consulate will find the way to track down your fiance if they really want to...

For additional information which you would like the USCIS to know about you, don't hesistate to write on a separate sheet of paper. This including her FULL LONG adress. About the "LOVE STORY", write a page how you met on a separate sheet of paper also. We did exactly that... write it as you love it :)

Good luck
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-16 08:12:00
Asia: East and PacificHow to fit Japanese Address on I-129F?


Hi Everyone,

I posted this on the K-1 forum but no luck so far. Our time is running short here, so any help would be appreciated.

I'm filling out an I-129F Fiance form, and I can't seem to figure out how to put my Japanese style address into it. The form I have seems to assume the address will be in a Western style format. Japanese addresses are much more complex (trust me, if you've never tried to find an address here, you don't ever want the displeasure). For instance, there's no such thing as a street name in Japan - they use a grid system here. To make matters worse, even if I just sort of shoehorned my address into the existing fields, there's no way they would fit, since it's an extremely long address. Here's a slightly modified example of my address:

123 Panahaitsumokogaoka, 4-56-78 Shukugahara
Kawasakishi, Kanagawaken 90-1234
Japan

Anyone have any experience with this type of problem? Any advice at all would be invaluable.

Thanks,
Sean


I guess you have two choices. Trying to make it fit within the parameters allowed or write in "See Attached" and on a separate sheet of paper write it exactly as you have above.

Address: 123 Panahaitsumokogaoka, 4-56-78 Shukugahara
City: Kawasakishi,
State or Country: Kanagawaken Japan
Postal Code: 90-1234


That's good fwaguy... just write them all in...
Kim lived in Japan for 8 years. We did have this issue. Here is how we get around it:

Address: 123 Panahaitsumokogaoka
4-56-78 Shukugahara
City: Kawashakishi
State: Kanagawaken 90-1234
Japan

Basically, you need to give them the Country, State, City. Why? Your fiance will need a Police Certificate of Lack of Criminal Record from JP when she comes for her interview. This is required only if your fiance lived and worked in Japan for more than 6 months after her 16th Birthday. At least that's what HCMC asked for when Kim had her interview.

The local police in the city where your fiance has been living can issue the Certificate and it will show the JAPAN, Kanagawaken 90-1234, Kawashakishi and the Police's street address... Consulate will check for matching Country, State and City from your file.

Don't worry, keep it simple! it's important you have the Country/State/City on your file. They can contact the US Embassy and Consulate in Japan to verify anything that seems "out of the ordinary".

Good luck
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-16 07:26:00
Asia: East and PacificEm yeu called consulate...
John and Marlene,

Vietnam is not a Democratic State. It's a 1 Party system, runs by the dictationship masked by a "Communist Party". Voting is done by the fews who already chose their next government officials within the communist party members. All laws enforced, people are being monitored and watched closely by the police. It's a Police State. I am not sure if voting means anything or carry much weight in Vietnam. At least not right now!

I would pick my battle, but that just me!
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-14 15:32:00
Asia: East and PacificEm yeu called consulate...
System in Vietnam? What system?

The only system you're dealing with is US Government where they staff a lot of vietnamese as "balls-breaker", first line of defense, who have absolutely no authority over you but if you ask your fiance, it's a different story!!!! That is how thing runs in VN. If you're bothered by some "little people" who "THINK" they have the power over you and your wife... then...don't be! This is happening every day in Vietnam, in every place of authority (Post Office, District Office, Ward Office, People Committee Office run by Vietnamese officials and government workers), so why would it be difference in the front office of a US Government in Vietnam, which operates and runs by the vietnamese. Can't change them, that ereogan attitude and behavior is "the core value of 35 years under communist reign". folks from communist countries can understand this point more so than Americans. These folks have so little, that when they do have the smallest amount of power, they make sure they put it in use. Just to make up and take it out on their lack of quality of life and living under substandard condition. These vietnamese staffs are trained and taught to be suspicious of anyone and anything. You will get to be like that when you live under constant watched by the police state! Again, can't change them! Think the Embassy will hire new staffs, doubt it they will, just more of the same thing.

You don't need to calm down either Lurker, just redirect that "energy" toward building your case, story, evidence and proof to back up your fiance's visa application. You are not the first one who brought up this point of anger. We ALL did one time or another during our process of getting the Visa. Stay focus ok! Get your Visa, then see if later on, you still want to go back and put your foot up their arses... then do.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-14 14:08:00
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CK&Tydi,

I don't believe Lurker meant to give a lesson to the Vietnamese Government, he wants to take care the Vietnamese staffs who disrespect his fiance at HCMC by bringing his complain to the Chief and US Ambassador in Ha Noi.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-14 08:34:00
Asia: East and PacificEm yeu called consulate...
Lurker,

I admire your courage to fight the broken system. However, here is where I see it: HCMC didn't ask for all the vietnamese people who fake their marriage to come to America. They didn't ask to work on fraudulen K1 and K3 cases, but they still do. It is NOT perfect, the vietnamese staffs are notoriously known to be rude and unprofessional to ALL beneficiaries, not just your "em".

Here is a thought, say... you go over there (HCMC) and straighten the Chief Officer out, give him a lesson how to run his vietnamese staffs. He takes your advice and decides to "STOP all K1 and K3 applicants, cancel all interviews while he's trying to replace his experienced but unprofession vietnamese staffs based on your recommendation. This change promps a "delay" for others, included many vietnamese/american folks whose fiance and wife are waiting for the interview at the consulate. I think they would be very upset because of your good intention to "fix an imperfect system".

Go North, now you're at the Embassy in Hanoi. Speaking to the Embassador. Say, he got really displeased of what you brought to his attention and decides to close down HCMC and replace all the staffs there, vietnamese and american. Since, you brought it to his attention that the whole staffing and the system in HCMC is just #######... This will cause even more delay!

I am playing the devil's advocate here, just to give you another point of view. Of course, HCMC does not have a perfect system, procedure and process in place, but it is the BEST we got. It's still a MUCH BETTER system to bring your wife here than having her crossing the Boarder from Mexico. I personally felt your anger and the disrepectfulness by the vietnamese staff toward my wife Kim when she arrived the first times at HCMC. But, I must say, I do not have time to be bothered by the little people who work for HCMC, they are not the one who will decide my wife's K1 approval. They can be rude all they way, just make sure my wife gets her PINK slip. My objective was NOT the rudeness of the staff by the front door, or how they lie to my wife when she calls, who cares, get me the PINK slip and a Visa. Stay focus is what I'm trying to tell you Lurker! You just started this process, this is the least you should be concern about.... Ask people here, they've seen the good/bad/ugly of the Vietnamese staffs in Saigon, so what... That's just part of the process, I don't have time for the little people... :lol:

Just thought I would share with you...
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-13 11:28:00
Asia: East and PacificEm yeu called consulate...
We tried all those... I personally never called, but I emailed. Turn-around-time is somewhere 24-48 hours. Unless it's the weekend.
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-10 13:50:00
Asia: East and PacificEm yeu called consulate...

"Sir, I don't know why you call the information unit, we have no information for you."


I love this one.... Quote of the day
chuckandkimMaleVietnam2006-11-10 12:49:00