Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Asia: East and Pacific	Travel with Infant	Now I have Melrose and AnhMap convincing posts. Will not bring the Graco Quatro Stroller (it's the Escalate of strollers) along. Will however bring umbrella stroller, bjorn and drop-ins bottle system. Also thinking of a small brita's water filtration system. Anything else guys? And, NO TOP GEAR transportation method Anh Map	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-16 11:57:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Travel with Infant	When travel to VN, what do you bring along when you have an infant or 12 months old baby? Stroller? full-size or compact? Helmet for baby? If yes, where can you get one? I haven't checked BRU, will do soon. Anyone travel around Saigon with a baby on a honda? How that went for you? Taxi is a prefered choice, but if you need to run from place to place without 1-2 miles radius... taxi could be very expensive and unpassible if you live in downtown Saigon as we do. All suggestions are welcome, ideas will appreciated.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-14 12:27:00
Asia: East and Pacific	worries plzzz advise	QUOTE (emma88 @ Apr 16 2009, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ok errrm now ill stop worrying, telling myself, every consulate is different....every consulate is different...lets pray for the best... If you read the success stories where CO just laugh and smile at the interviewee and hand out pink slips (Visa approval) like candies... then you may also wonder why is that? Each Consulate is different, so is each C.O., that is because each case is unique! But I wouldn't be relaxing just because you're not going through HCMC, C.O. may or may not look at your case as deep as he should. Just prepare for the worse and hope for the best.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-16 11:38:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Good lawyer in Hcmc?	Hi Tom and Hao, Retain an attorney's service is a personal choice at this early stage of the journey. With the helps from JV, one could easily complete the filiing by oneself. Many of us have done so all the way through the end. We do have a good support base of knowledgeable members who currently helping and assisting others members who are going through this very same journey. I would def. get a lawyer if: 1. I was divorced a few times 2. Once married and petitioned for an alien to immigrate to the US 3. Case was denied 4. Refiling new case/petition 5. Criminal background isn't clean as I wish It could be If nothing out of the ordinary, you should be able to handle HCMC without too much heartache and pains However, don't get me wrong, I do believe in lawyer when I feel and know absolutely sure that I need one. They can easy up a lot of troubles for the inexperience. Good luck, Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-14 08:45:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Interview Passed!	QUOTE (shaker @ Apr 22 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, Our interview was on 4/20/2009 in HCMC. She fail and only got sheet of paper talking about Section 221. They didn't give her pink, blue or white slip. Some of her family members live in same city has me, they told me besides getting white sheet of paper, they also got a blue slip. She didn't get any type of slip... Just kinda strange... But they did set up another interview on 5/20/2009. I have heard that they will not ask her any more questions sense she was already been interview in first round. Also, our lawyer said they have failed 99% over in HCMC now.... So, im looking for others that may have failed first round, but passed second round. I would like to here you comments. Thanks Christopher Shaker, Might want to start your own thread!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-22 17:06:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Interview Passed!	QUOTE (hieumin @ Apr 21 2009, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> all CO had 1 year learning experienced Vietnamese before appointing to that job, so basically their vietnamese are limited, not able to hold a conversation. or they are able but choose not to speak in Vietnamese. Maybe they just want to make sure you are not slipping up some secrets you hold, in vietnamese? Or they choose to test your ability to communicate affectively with your S.O. (USC or VNC) in English. I haven't seen much of the "English-Vietnamese Conversational Video Tape" request from HCMC for a while now... But back in my days, they asked people to speak in either English/Vietnamese to prove the petitional and beneficiary actually communicate and understand each other, using Video Tape,DVD recordings. C.O. speak/write/read/hear Vietnamese VERY WELL. Do not by any mean underestimate your C.O.!!!!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-21 09:53:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Interview Passed!	QUOTE (H&H @ Apr 17 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 5. Wear the formal cloth no need for tie (nice shirt + Pants don't wear T-shirt and jean) Remember, how would you dress if you are given a chance to an interview for a miilion USD job? This worths more than a million to some of us. So Tshirt and jeans are never an option IMHO!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-19 06:18:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Interview Passed!	Beautiful! Your husband performed very well under pressure... How far along are you with the baby???? Stay focus and do not let your guard down until he steps foot on US soils. Be well, Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-17 06:33:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Finally! Interview	Sweet!!!!!!!!!!! BTW, emailing is the best method I found to contact HCMC. Those automatic replies were there for at least 5 years now... since my days of VJ! Standard form response setup on their exchange server to reply to all. However, all emails seem to be read and respond accordingly. Just slow! Good luck! Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-23 06:58:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Request for Expedite Approved!	QUOTE (Carlos and Jocel @ Apr 21 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Get your MED EXAM DONE, PAY YOUR FEE so when they give you interview your not walking around like a headless chicken! Regardless of the warning, he will, like all of us, running around like headless chicken when it comes to HCMC. Don't spoil the fun in it for all of us who have been through the journey, looking back... it was FUN!!!!!!!!! scary fun! actually! Good luck Dai, just focus brother! Think Big Picture: GET me that Visa!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-23 06:54:00
Asia: East and Pacific	upcoming medical in HCM	This is good news then!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-23 13:45:00
Asia: East and Pacific	upcoming medical in HCM	Well, Understand, this Med-Exam will have the fiancee stripped down to her underwears and bras. Check every inch of her body for red spots, rashes. Then drink a cough solution which will make her cough for days afterward. Cho Ray - some have experience flat out lies to extort for money. IOM - Professionally done. My wife went in, got everything done. No issue. So what, you need to go to a different location for shots. I like to know that my wife got treated with respect and as a human being and receiving the service that she PAYS for, not asking for a damn FAVOR (as you would when you come Cho Ray). But it sounds like you want to try Cho Ray because it's all in one package deal? Then go! Do let us know how it turn out OK.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-16 09:42:00
Asia: East and Pacific	upcoming medical in HCM	Hi Kevin, You may want to read this about Cho Ray. http://www.visajourn...howtopic=190338 Or better off, PM "NeedHelp" to ask him about his horrific experience at Cho Ray. IOM is the prefered place among the brothers and sisters on (VJV = Visa Journey Vietnamese) What's so confused about IOM, could you please share, maybe we can help?	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2009-04-15 06:33:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Viet translations of documents no longer needed?	True! No more translation! However, my suggestion to you and your wife is to translate and notarized ALL official documents related to you and her. Here is why, once you are here in the US, guess what you have to do? AOS (Adjustment of Status) to get her Green Card. Guess again, how many District Officer in America knows Vietnamese? Zero to None! So, showing up in America with a bunch of documents in brownish looking paper from Vietnam, in Vietnamese is quite useless it seems to me. I personally have everything translated and notarized by "S? T? Pháp" in HCMC: college degree, highschool diplomat, National ID card, Family Book, Birth Certificate (10 copies). For you will need these documents in America, for various reasons you will find out later. Doesn't cost you much in VN to get it done, but here, it will cost you somewhere from $50-$100 to have them translated, certified and notarized ect. by a professional service. My thought, just want to share with you Good luck	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 07:10:00
Asia: East and Pacific	in Vietnam: please help	First thing first, where is your timeline? In my opinion, you can have income of ZERO dollar the year before you graduate from Medical School and will be a doctor the 1st of January 2008, before the interview date is 100% Better than someone with co-sponsor and make right around poverty guideline income. Doesn't mean you should show up for the interview empty handed but you need to understand the C.O. does NOT just look at $16,000USD/yr income and some change to determine your case. If you don't meet the Guideline, get a Co-sponsor but do submit evidence about your current and on-going employment with solid income that shows an annual salary. The key here is: C.O. wants to see you can and will be able to support your wife once they issue a Visa for her to come to the US. Can you? Show me! I see you graduated from college (assumed), with professional job, great! Then nothing to worry, at this point, just line up a "co-sponsor" just in case they ask for it, as part of "complete inspection" of your case. But I strongly believe they will not look at your income as a decision factor when you will have a solid income starting from November 2007. Think "BIG PICTURE"! What does C.O. really want to see from you and your wife in the future? Will you and her go on welfare and soupkitchen next month after they issue a Visa for her and after she arrives in the US? If you show them the chance of her goes on welfare with you is ZERO in the foreseeable future, then you're gold! Good luck!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 07:04:00
Asia: East and Pacific	G E D test in vietnamese	Looked and couldn't find anything! May need to get her to study in ESL class first. Looking up word by word in my opinion is not the best way to study English and master the language. Green/Tran, do they have ESL class in KS? Forget the GED for now, she just need to get her learning mode back up to speed first. Just my thought!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 07:16:00
Asia: East and Pacific	SSN	What's your last name? NGUY?N	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 07:20:00
Asia: East and Pacific	NOA2 on USCIS website	FYI You might want to remove the "NOA" receipt number. It's too personal to post it in a public forum as VJ. Other than that: AWESOME news Congratulations!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 07:19:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Are you married to a Vietnamese Citizen, then	No, Thuy will not need a Visa to enter her own country. She is still a Vietnamese who holds a Vietnam Passport Not yet brother, not yet to become an american We will corrupt her thou	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-13 07:26:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Are you married to a Vietnamese Citizen, then	Repost	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-06 09:34:00
Asia: East and Pacific	My story "how I met my fiance".	I'm with Sinh & Lien!!!! Dalegg is correct! Go for it! Congratulations, I love a good love story! People tent to forget the romance in this process and get all wrapped up in the legal and procedural matters while they are going through VJ My foremost advice to you and everyone: think BIG PICTURE, what is the ultimate goal here? Everything else is just part of the big picture: getting her here is the final prize . So, for starter: Remember, ask yourself: what would I do if I were the C.O.? Your case is not complicated as others, both of you've never been married? No children of your own from previous flings? Then it's pretty much going to be: pay the bills, pay attention, build up proof for an on-going relationship, cross all T's and dot all i's, read up on VJ everyday. Post questions, even when you think "this is a stupid question", ask anyway! But do search before you post! If you think you will be flagged for "questionable relations", well, what are you waiting for? Obtain Police records showing you and her aren't related, including both your parents BC, your grandparents's BC or S? H? Kh?u etc. Preventive strike is the game we play around HCMC Get it before they ask for it! If you think it may be a problem, guess what, it will be a problem! Too little photos and letters? Start with handwritten letters, postcards, anniversary cards, JUST THINKING OF YOU cards, random thought of you cards I know I did, or "JUST BECAUSE" cards, make sure hand write them, post mail them, those emails are ok, but POST MARK is better! Remember, it may cost her a lot more to mail letters/postcard to you here in the US, just do it anyway! Phone calls: you do it everyday, for it is so cheap to call VN and vice versa. Make sure you keep a log of how much you call. Do not use phone cards, they are useless to show proof of you calling her. Use service like www.ipnmedia.net or www.savingcall.com They issue phonebills and you can call from any US phone directly to her mobile/homephone without pin# Pictures: i love those old pictures, Kim shows the consulate officer a photo of she and I were in the church choir together, not standing next to each other but in a choir together when we were 7-8 yrs old. They love it! That's why I say to you, not to worry about the relation, Bà Con, and stuff! It's all good! Show it with pride and be proud for you are falling in love with "the girl next door" brother! Last but not least, talking to a few people who haven't actually gone throu VJ themselves aren't the best resource in my opinion! They will scare you for nothing and offer baseless advice is very dangerous thing. Do not PM anyone for questions, people give bad/wrong advice all the time here on VJ, including me, but posting your questions here will help everyone and everyone can help you to get the correct answer and make the right decision for your case. Good luck, love Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-14 11:38:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Red Flag concerns...	You've my mind! Remove the picture with the wording: "L? Vu Quy". No need to attract unwanted attention.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-08-10 06:16:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Red Flag concerns...	Red Flag 1: Only 1 trip to VN Will it matter to the CO if i come a 2nd time in Oct. or if my 2nd time is when the interview process is going on or do they just want me there more than once to ease the red flags? I do not believe it matters. Remember, they want you to help them to make the right decision in granting your fiancé a Visa approval. How will you do that? This is one of the many steps you can help them to help you ? Go for it! I would rather go there if I could before and during the week of the interview. Red Flag 2: Introduced by her uncle at my work and other family in the states Currently Tram has 1 uncle in FL, an Uncle and Aunt in VA, and an uncle and aunt in Cali. There are also some cousins, from what i understand, in Texas. How we were introduced: Her uncle is a coworker on the opposite shift as me. While talking to him one day i found out he was going to vietnam for a month to see his family there. There is a running joke at work to ask the people going back to their country if they have any pretty nieces that are single. (there are more people from SE Asia at my work than "white" people). So jokingly i asked him and he said, yes, actually i do have one. Bring me a picture with your email address and i will show it to her. A month passes and no emails. So he comes back and i ask him if the picture went over well. he said no, she was not interested but he passed it off to another niece that he never really talked to before. (he still to this day doesn't know much about her and thinks its funny i know everything). A week or two later i get a random email and we start emailing back and forth. and the rest is history. How will the CO feel about her having some family here already and they way we met?? Normal, CO sees cases like more often than they wish. Also, match making is still the most trusted way among Vietnamese traditional family, so if her uncle trusted you enough to introduce his niece to you, and she trusted her uncle enough to make the initial connection, I don’t thing there is anything WRONG with it. However, you and your honey must remove all doubt ( I don’t know how specifically) that her uncle PAYS you to bring his niece here to America. Or you marry this woman in returning a favor to your co-worker. Red Flag 3: Vietnamese at interview Trams spoken English is broken and slow but she is able to communicate. I would like her to do the interview in English, however, I'm afraid the CO will ask something she does not understand and there will not be a translator there to help her. I also don't trust the translators after reading the posts. I plan to talk to her frequently in English and quiz her with random interview questions. She is also attending a school to learn English. She can read and write very good when she takes her time. I want her to at least try English before using the translator because i think she will surprise herself how much English she knows. Advice? Ask yourself this: If you were a CO, interviewing my wife and you only have no more than 5 mins to make the decision to approve or deny my wife’s visa application. How would you do that and still maintaining the state of fairness and professionalism? I would rather trust my wife speaking ENGLISH directly to you than trusting a translator who has NO incentive to help my wife to get an approval. Back to your case, it is to your benefit and TRAM to be able to communicate affectively and be able to show that to the CO. You can’t tell the CO “Let me write down my answer on a piece of paper for you”, forget that route and be frank with Tram: Learn English and learn it fast, my Vietnamese sux but you know more English than my Vietnamese. Stop sugar-coating the situation and recognize her English is NOT up to the task, have her study English grammar, speaking to her in English for she will need that language skill once she’s here in the US regardless of what she’ll be doing for job (nail salon worker needs English too!). Here is my suggestion: learn English, interview in English, ignore the interpretor, they do more harm than good, plus since you can’t speak anything else fluently but English, it only helps your case if she can speak English well! Can’t have a relationship when you can’t communicate affectively, that’s how I see it and I believe the CO believes more so than that. Don’t you? Red Flag 4: Length of relationship Nov 06 The first email i received from Tram was on 11/13/06. We immediately hit it off and started talking on Yahoo (logged every conversation) Messenger after a few weeks of exchanging emails. From there we started using webcam and phone and talking on headsets over the net and writing letters, we also started doing a lot of texting on the phones this past month. Dec 06 Within a month of talking 11 to 2 times a day we were already finding out each others views of marraige and family and all the good stuff. By the end of Dec. we were already talking about getting married, and were "boyfriend and girlfriend" Jan 07 Early Jan we start talking about me coming there and getting engaged and doing a traditional wedding/party. I never said "Will you marry me" it just came up as a known thing that we were a perfect couple and were going to go through with it. Feb 07 More of the same March 07 I go to vietnam (for 3 weeks) knowing i was about to get married to a girl that i never met in person before. We planned the wedding to be in the middle of my time there. i knew i could get out of it if it was a mistake. From the first time i layed eyes on her i knew it was all perfect. It was like we knew each other our whole lives. I went for it hook, line and sinker! April - August 07 I-129F stuff Now here we are today, Aug 07. I still stand by our decision to wed and will forever. I am in absolute love with her, as she is with me. HOWEVER! will the CO think this is just TOO fast a relationship? Even with all the proof provided will they fail me just because i haven't seen her 5 times over 2 years or something? I would like to say NO, he won’t fail you. But nobody knows. Remember, there isn’t one thing that will determine the approval of her Visa. THINK “Big Picture”. So what, if you only met her once and decide to marry her on the fist trip. People get married for various reason, yours is “LOVE” remember? ? Nobody can fault you for falling in love with a Vietnamese girl just after 5 months talking to her online, Vietnamese women will do that to you! You stated the “doubt” and “what the CO might have thought of your case”, that’s good, now tell us how overcome and remove their doubt? Remember, Yahoo/Chat/Voice seem to be a secondary supportive evidence, they love to see “hand-written” postcard, snail-mail, actual phone bills is better than random used calling cards. Pictures of engagement ceremony/reception seem to be expected for most K-1, after all, traditional Vietnamese wants to have an engagement for their daughter before she gets married. I saw a LOT of denials posted do to lack of evidence and lack of support. For evidence i have: IMs, IM log, emails, letters, pictures (including hundreds from the 100+ person wedding with all guests and all family, random pics of us together and professional studio wedding pics), receipts for everything purchased in Saigon and Da Lat (honeymoon spot), cash advances from HCMC banks, credit card statements, the earings, rings and necklace she will be wearing (pictures of me putting them on her at wedding and the receipts) , phone bills showing text messages to and from her with phone number and country listed, receipts from money i send her every month, boarding passes, itinerary, and so much more plus whatever i will add to it over the next few months including the 2nd trip i will take. For support: WAY above the guidelines for 1 or 2 people household (for about 5 years running). Stable job (2.5 years) in a massive company in a management position (company has a plant in HCMC too). This looks really good! Again, how will you organize them to “TELL” your “love story” is the tricky part ? Rule of thumb: When in doubt, throw it in anyway! Rather have MORE than enough evidence than MISSING that one piece of paper ? Okay so that sums up ALL of my current concerns. I know its early into the process for me but i know how picky HCMC CO's can be after reading all the posts. I want my ducks in the straightest line possible. Please reply with all the advice you care to. I am incredibly flexible and take well to criticism. Luckly i read a lot about the 129F before going so i knew what items and information to collect and such. Never too early to prepare for HCMC. You will have a much better journey than some of us, who jump right into the process without knowing what is up ahead waiting for them. My only suggestion after all the posts I did, get Tram to learn English fast. Speaking to her, forcing her to speak and communicate in English. And last but not least, the CO’s in HCMC do know Vietnamese but sometimes they choose to have the Vietnamese staff speaking on their behalf. But don’t worry yet, you’re along way there. Think “BIG PICTURE” = Getting her Visa is your ultimate goal and objective from now until the PINK SLIP day ? Edited by chuckandkim, 09 August 2007 - 09:35 AM.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-08-09 09:33:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Tram called the consulate and...	Congratulations and Keep the flag. Officially and Internationally speaking, this is the ONLY flag is recognized by the UN. You don't want to piss off the Vietnamese Govt. there either when your wife is still over there... Ok, all jokes aside, i'm pretty sure what Gossipsaigon was only kidding... flag or no-flag will NOT determine your wife's interview outcome!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-26 08:37:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Tram called the consulate and...	May ask them if Tram can pick it up on person. She's from Saigon isn't she?	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-09 06:55:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Everything is a success for us.	We are happy for you! Congratulations	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-10-26 07:34:00
Asia: East and Pacific	preparing for the interview ahead of time.....	Only the City she's legally registered her Family Book and ID card for, anything else she was just "visiting" or "temporarily" stayed. The question you mentioned is applied for the broader scope. Foreign Police Certificate is requested for individuals who lived oversea for over 6 months after they turned 16 yrs of age. You should be OK!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-29 13:28:00
Asia: East and Pacific	preparing for the interview ahead of time.....	Cuong, Congratulations and hope you will have a successful interview. As for the preparation, I always recommend people to ask themselves these questions: 1. How do I best tell the C.O. my love story? 2. How do I support it? 3. What evidence I can gather to bulk-up my support? 4. If I were the C.O., what would I want to know from the individual who claims they are in love and want to live in America together forever? 5. What are the issues I'm not feeling comfortable with to tell the C.O.? 6. How do I prevent and better prepare to answer them if they ask (because they will)? 7. Is my story straight? if not, why not? Can I make it right? How? then go do it! 8. Do I have everything they ask for this interview? 9. If I don't have everything, what ELSE can I show them to explain why I don't have everything? 10. WHAT else did I miss or don't remember to include in my package? 11. Do I have too much evidence in supporting my case? 12. Do I have ENOUGH? 13. What is my ultimate goal and objective in doing this journey? (The answer is GETTING her a VISA - everything else is just part of getting the visa process) Don't get distracted. Last but not least, Not one single item or request in your Visa Case will determine the decision of the C.O. upon your wife's Visa outcome. Think the Big Picture! Good luck and prepare for the interview well, once you think you have done everything, do it again, check it again. Practice the questions with her! Be well, chuck and kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-11-20 13:47:00
Asia: East and Pacific	legal rights for VN abroad who visit	Andrew, Thuy is not giving UP all her rights when she immigrates to the US under K-1 Visa. She needed to transfer/sale her moped because that's what you do if you want the moped to be legally driven around Saigon by someone else other than her. Her money in the bank, this is somewhat a question of trust, can she trust this individual who holds the account with her? If not, take it out. The bottom line is, she is still a VIETNAMESE regardless of where she is living Andrew! If in doubt, check her greenish passport If you travel to VN, she will get to be processed in a shorter line for Vietnameses, and you have to stand in the longest line where they process all the foreigners Good luck and be well, Chuck	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-03 08:21:00
Asia: East and Pacific	SGN Airport	I've never done that, just notice people do it because of rumor where VC will arrest you for no reason if you don't give them cash!	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-04 08:42:00
Asia: East and Pacific	SGN Airport	Did you notice if any "VIETKIEU's" still tuck a $20 bill inside their passport for a faster speedier Custom Inspection in/out of Saigon like they have been doing for the past years?	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-04 07:52:00
Asia: East and Pacific	with a little patience and persistence	AustinJohn and Neverseen, Nothing personal, but your case is only special to you and you alone. In the eyes of the C.O., you are some random people from the States come into this third world underdeveloped country to marry some Vietnamese woman for a wife and they (C.O.'s) have to review your case, make their decision to grant a visa or more evidence is needed. NEXT! Nothing personal and nothing means, just business as usual. Don't take it personal if the C.O.'s yell or mistreated your S.O., so what, don't blame them, blame the ones who lie and fraud their way to HCMC for years. I would keep this reality in mind and prepare, overload your case with evidence and don't hope or count on your girlfriend will get an easy/nice C.O., prepare for the worst and anything else is just icing on the cake brothers! mytrang_chinhgoc gives us a lesson that readers on VJ should learn, I myself did too, be patience and persistence are the two main drives you want to possess during this Visa journey, especially through HCMC. Remember, HCMC don't owe you anything, they got something that you want (K-1, K-3 Visa), so convince them and hope they yield to favor your case! Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-04 07:49:00
Asia: East and Pacific	with a little patience and persistence	QUOTE (AustinJohn @ Dec 3 2007, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (NeverSeen @ Dec 2 2007, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> congrats! Any ideas on why they were skeptical? My opinion: long courtships for the consulate = real deal. Anything less than two year courtship; they'll be skeptical. I would too, wouldn't you? To mytrang_chinhgoc, time and time, I see people get blue and green consistantly when it comes to case that has a short timeline, nothing personal or special treatment which HCMC gives your case. I'm glad you take the process with a clear mind and high concentration and extremely focus. Congratulations and let's this be an example and encouragement for all who are going through and struggle with HCMC. Chuck and Kim	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-03 08:27:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Bring on the butterflies!	QUOTE (NeverSeen @ Dec 3 2007, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The worst is knowing that in 2 weeks she could be flying into the States, You have no idea!!!!! She will be here long before you know it, is your house ready for a new boss? Think of it this way, your single bachelor life is OVER as you know it! Have fun and relax brother, she will be just fine, be stressed together HEHEHEHE Good luck and stay focus OK	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-12-03 08:14:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	Yes, that is exactly what i have been doing brother! Your fear has successfully got to me.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2008-01-07 10:25:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	QUOTE (GOSSIPSAIGON @ Jan 1 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (chuckandkim @ Sep 4 2007, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My travel agent is applying the Visa Waiver for me. I think it costs the same as applying for a Visa. Not sure, just saw the site... Visa Waiver Application for Vietnamese American Check this out.... http://www.lorettasa.......54&Itemid=1 The couple have now been released and they did not hold the visa waiver. If you are a visa waiver holder and you get into this type of situation, even George W. Bush can't bail you out!!!!!!! Good Luck!!!!! My advise to you: stay away the hell from Vietnam.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2008-01-02 07:26:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	Still $1280 for me. Flying from PHL to ATL to INC to SGN.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-10-01 06:26:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	This is not where we start an anti-communist war. Anyone who wants one, should have stayed in Vietnam and faught it out. However, I believe you all just like the rest of those big mouth in Bolsa and Northern Virginia who fear the wrath of VC so much that fled the country and held parades each year on 4/30 to bash VC and re-live the golden days of VNCH. Here is the news flash, USA has normalized its relationship with VC awhile back. It will take times and no matter what they do, you won't like it, but you won't have a choice. As David Hien said: Jungle Law is what runs the country. Well, you can choose to apply for the visa waiver, or continue your old way to apply for the $30 Visa. I am informing others who actually read and hold the government of VC accountable for what they claim about the new Visa Waiver. SURE, there will be errors and mistakes for this is a new program they implementing, the goal is to benefit both VC and VK. If you think you can just walk in VN and claim: let me in, I am vietnamese, then you're pretty out of your right mind. Even an American born and raised here wouldn't get the luxury if he shows up at JFK International POE and ask to let him in, they won't let him in just because he claims "I am an american". So, when VC asking for your proof of origin, and if you want to obtain the waiver, get in line and who the proper documentation. I've read a few articles on nguoi viet dot com, quite interesting how these anti-communist-paper-tigers are NOT reporting and giving the vietnamese in the US the whole picture. They themselves also have an agenda. Question from Reader Moreover, I understand there are fears of losing your US Citizenship if you apply for the Visa Waiver, please someone, find where you have good intelligent official proof that if you apply for the Visa Waiver, you will lose it! You understand in this great country US of A, there is a thing call due-process, even if you have the Visa Waiver, I do not believe Michael Chertoff will stop by and ask for your Citizenship Certificate back. Bottom line is, from reading what they have on the Ministry of Foreign Affair website (in vietnamese) here is what I understand, and we may discuss to help each other to better understanding new policy. It may or may not work for EVERYONE. Let's read (edits are welcome for my English is not 100% agreed with my Vietnamese) ?i?u 1. ??i t??ng mi?n th? th?c Part I: Who can apply for Visa Waiver A Vietnam national who reside in a foreign country and the spouse of a Vietnam citizen or Vietnamese whose residency is of a foreign country are permitted to apply for a visa waiver if the individual meets all required conditions: Ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài và ng??i n??c ngoài là v?, ch?ng, con c?a công dân Vi?t Nam ho?c ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài ???c mi?n th? th?c nh?p c?nh n?u có ?? các ?i?u ki?n: 1. H? chi?u n??c ngoài ho?c gi?y t? thay h? chi?u n??c ngoài (d??i ?ây g?i t?t là h? chi?u) còn giá tr? ít nh?t 6 tháng k? t? ngày nh?p c?nh. Tr??ng h?p ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài không có h? chi?u thì ph?i có gi?y t? th??ng trú do n??c ngoài c?p còn giá tr? ít nh?t 6 tháng k? t? ngày nh?p c?nh. A Foreign Passport, or document in place of a passport (from here to be referred as “Passport”) which is valid no less than 6 months from the day of entry through Vietnam Immigration Checkpoint. For Vietnamese who do not have a foreign passport, they may use “Permanent Residence” document issued by the foreign country which is valid no less than 6 months from the day of entry through Vietnam Immigration Checkpoint. 2. Gi?y mi?n th? th?c do c? quan có th?m quy?n c?a Vi?t Nam c?p. A Visa Waiver issued by the Vietnam Government Authority ?i?u 2. ??i t??ng không ???c mi?n th? th?c Who will not be issued a Visa Waiver 1. Không ?? ?i?u ki?n nêu t?i ?i?u 1. Do not meet the requirement in Part 1 2. Thu?c di?n "ch?a ???c nh?p c?nh Vi?t Nam" theo quy ??nh t?i kho?n 1 ?i?u 8 Pháp l?nh Nh?p c?nh, xu?t c?nh, c? trú c?a ng??i n??c ngoài t?i Vi?t Nam, c? th?: People who are considered “ineligible to enter Vietnam” under the governor of section 1 part 8 of Immigration Law for foreign in Vietnam: a) Gi? m?o gi?y t?, c? ý khai sai s? th?t khi làm th? t?c xin nh?p c?nh; forge document, intentionally making false statement when apply for immigration permit Vì lý do phòng, ch?ng d?ch b?nh; epidemic disease prevention c) Vi ph?m nghiêm tr?ng pháp lu?t Vi?t Nam trong l?n nh?p c?nh tr??c; Committed serious crime against Vietnam laws and regulation at the last entry d) Vì lý do b?o v? an ninh qu?c gia, lý do ??c bi?t khác theo quy ??nh c?a B? tr??ng B? Công an. To protect National Security , other special reason under the guidelines of the Chief of Police Department ?i?u 3. Gi?y mi?n th? th?c Part 3. Visa Waiver Certificate 1. C? quan có th?m quy?n c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c g?m: - C? quan ??i di?n Vi?t Nam ? n??c ngoài; - C?c Qu?n lý xu?t nh?p c?nh thu?c B? Công an. The follow offices can issue Visa Waiver Vietnam Representative Offices in foreign country Immigration office of the National Police Department 2. Gi?y mi?n th? th?c có giá tr? ??n 5 n?m và ng?n h?n th?i h?n còn giá tr? c?a h? chi?u ho?c gi?y t? th??ng trú do n??c ngoài c?p ít nh?t 6 tháng. Visa Waiver is valid up to 5 years, and less than the expiration date of the foreign country issued passport or permanent residence document 3. Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ???c c?p cho t?ng ng??i. Tr? em d??i 14 tu?i ?i cùng h? chi?u v?i cha ho?c m?, thì Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ???c c?p cùng v?i h? chi?u c?a cha ho?c m?. Visa Waiver is issued individually. Children under 14 yrs of age travel with a father or a mother will be issued a Visa Waiver under their parent’s passport. 4. C? quan có th?m quy?n c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c trong th?i h?n 07 ngày làm vi?c, k? t? ngày nh?n h? s? h?p l?. Visa Waiver will be issued by the authority official within 7 business days when the eligible application is accepted 5. Ng??i ???c c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ph?i n?p phí x? lý h? s? theo quy ??nh c?a B? Tài chính. Applicants must submit the required Visa Waiver fees according to guideline of the Finance Department ?i?u 4. H? s? ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c: Part 4. Visa Waiver required documents 1. H? chi?u n??c ngoài ho?c ng??i ch?a ???c c?p h? chi?u n??c ngoài thì ph?i có gi?y t? th??ng trú do n??c ngoài c?p (kèm theo b?n sao ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n l?u h? s?). Foreign Passport or Permanent Residence document issued by foreign country (must include a photocopy for record keeping by the authority) 2. M?t trong nh?ng gi?y t?, tài li?u ch?ng minh là ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài theo quy ??nh c?a pháp lu?t Vi?t Nam ho?c ?i?u ??c qu?c t? mà Vi?t Nam là thành viên ho?c các gi?y t? ???c c?p tr??c ?ây dùng ?? suy ?oán v? Qu?c t?ch g?c ho?c g?c Vi?t Nam. Tr??ng h?p không có gi?y t? ch?ng minh là ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài, thì ???ng s? có th? xu?t trình gi?y b?o lãnh c?a H?i ?oàn c?a ng??i Vi?t Nam ? n??c ???ng s? c? trú ho?c công dân Vi?t Nam b?o ??m ???ng s? là ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài. Document to proof the applicant is a Vietnamese who lives in a foreign country according to Vietnam laws, or international laws which Vietnam is abided by and a member of that governed agreement, or the previously issued legal document to trace the origin of nationality or Vietnam national. If applicants can not prove they are Vietnam nationals living in a foreign country, they can provide an affidavit of sponsorship by a Vietnamese organization or a Vietnamese Citizen in the foreign country where the applicants live. Ng??i n??c ngoài là v?, ch?ng, con c?a ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài ho?c công dân Vi?t Nam thì ph?i có gi?y t? ch?ng minh quan h? v?, ch?ng, con v?i ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài ho?c công dân Vi?t Nam (gi?y ??ng ký k?t hôn; gi?y khai sinh; gi?y xác nh?n quan h? cha, m?, con và các gi?y t? có giá tr? khác theo quy ??nh c?a pháp lu?t Vi?t Nam). Children and spouse of the Vietnam nationals or Vietnamese citizens who live in a foreign country must show proof of relationship (wife, husband, child) with a Vietnam nationals who live in foreign country, or Vietnamese citizen (marriage certificate, birth certificate, certificate of legal father, mother, child and other documents under the governor of Vietnam laws) 3. Tr??ng h?p không có các gi?y t? quy ??nh t?i kho?n 2 ?i?u này, ???ng s? có th? xu?t trình gi?y t? do c? quan có th?m quy?n c?a n??c ngoài c?p n?u trong ?ó có ghi ???ng s? là ng??i có qu?c t?ch g?c ho?c g?c Vi?t Nam ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n c?a Vi?t Nam xem xét c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c. If applicants do not have any document required in part 2, applicants may submit document issued by the government of the foreign country where they live to show proof of origin or Vietnam origin for the Vietnamese authority to review to issue Visa Waiver. 4. T? khai ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (theo m?u). Form Application of Visa Waiver (see form) ?i?u 5. H?y Gi?y mi?n th? th?c Part 5 Withdrawal of Visa Waiver Certificate 1. Ng??i ???c c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c sau ?ó n?u phát hi?n nh?ng v?n ?? không ?? ?i?u ki?n theo quy ??nh t?i ?i?u 2 Quy ch? này s? b? h?y Gi?y mi?n th? th?c. The authority will withdraw Visa Waiver Certificate if they find the Visa Waiver holders are ineligible or met the requirement in Part 2 2. C? quan ??i di?n Vi?t Nam ? n??c ngoài th?c hi?n vi?c h?y Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ??i v?i ng??i ???c c?p ?ang ? n??c ngoài. C? quan qu?n lý xu?t nh?p c?nh thu?c B? Công an; l?c l??ng ki?m soát xu?t nh?p c?nh thu?c B? Qu?c phòng (B? ??i Biên phòng) t?i c?a kh?u th?c hi?n vi?c h?y Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ??i v?i ng??i ???c c?p ?ang t?m trú ? Vi?t Nam ho?c ?ang ? c?a kh?u Vi?t Nam. Vietnam Representative Office in foreign country that issues the Visa Waiver to applicant has the authority to withdraw the Visa Waiver. Immigration Office of the National Police Department, Immigration Inspection Office of the Defense Department (Border Protection Army) at Point Of Entry, has the authority to withdraw Visa Waiver certificate issued to an individual who temporarily stay in VN or at the POE. 3. Tr??ng h?p b? h?y Gi?y mi?n th? th?c không ???c hoàn tr? phí x? lý h? s?. Application fee will NOT be refund when Visa Waiver Certificate is withdrawn ?i?u 6. Th?i h?n t?m trú t?i Vi?t Nam Part 6. Length of Temporary Stay in VN Ng??i nh?p c?nh Vi?t Nam b?ng Gi?y mi?n th? th?c, ???c t?m trú t?i Vi?t Nam không quá 90 ngày cho m?i l?n nh?p c?nh. Ng??i t?m trú quá 90 ngày ph?i làm th? t?c xin c?p th? th?c theo quy ??nh hi?n hành tr??c ho?c sau khi nh?p c?nh Vi?t Nam. Visa Waiver Holders who enter VN may temporary stay no more than 90 days for each entry. Individuals who temporarily stay more than 90 days must apply for Visa as the current immigration policy before and after entering VN. ?i?u 7. T? ch?c th?c hi?n Administer Authorities 1. B? Công an ch? trì ph?i h?p v?i B? Ngo?i giao và B? Qu?c phòng tri?n khai th?c hi?n Quy ch? này. B? Công an ban hành m?u Gi?y mi?n th? th?c, m?u T? khai ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c và m?u Gi?y b?o lãnh, sau khi trao ??i th?ng nh?t v?i B? Ngo?i giao. Ministry of Police oversees and cooperate with the Ministry of Foreign Affair and the Defense Department to implement and administer the Visa Waiver policy. Ministry of Police issues Visa Waiver Form, Application Form, Affidavit of Sponsorship Form after review with the Ministry of Foreign Affair. 2. B? Ngo?i giao thông báo cho các c? quan ??i di?n n??c ngoài t?i Vi?t Nam và ph?i h?p v?i B? Giao thông v?n t?i thông báo cho các hãng hàng không qu?c t? bi?t, t?o ?i?u ki?n thu?n l?i cho ng??i mang Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ??n Vi?t Nam. Ministry of Foreign Affair to communicate with all foreign representative in Vietnam and cooperate with the Department of Transportation to inform all international airlines, to conveniently assist Visa Waiver holders. 3. B? Tài chính h??ng d?n ch? ?? thu, n?p và s? d?ng phí x? lý h? s? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c. Ministry of Finance provides guidelines in collecting and spending application fees for Visa Waiver Certificate MORE............. II. H? s? ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c Application of Visa Waiver Package 1. ??i v?i ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài, h? s? g?m: Vietnam national who permanently reside in foreign country includes: a. 01 T? khai ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (theo m?u); 01 Application of Visa Waiver b. 02 t?m ?nh màu m?i ch?p c? 4x6 cm, phông n?n tr?ng, m?t nhìn th?ng, ??u ?? tr?n, không ?eo kính màu (01 t?m ?nh dán vào T? khai, 01 t?m ?nh ?? r?i); 02 color photos size 4x6 cm, white background, face forward, no headdress, no sunglasses (affixed one photo in the application, leave one for other use) c. H? chi?u n??c ngoài ho?c gi?y t? có giá tr? thay th? h? chi?u c?a n??c ngoài còn giá tr? ít nh?t 6 tháng k? t? ngày nh?p c?nh. N?u không có h? chi?u thì ph?i có gi?y t? th??ng trú do n??c ngoài c?p còn giá tr? ít nh?t 6 tháng k? t? ngày nh?p c?nh. (kèm theo b?n ch?p ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c l?u h? s?); A foreign passport or document in place of a foreign passport still valid no less than 6 months from the date of entry. If applicants do not have a passport, must provide a permanent residence document still valid no less than 6 months from the date of entry (including photocopies for record keeping by the issuance authority) d. M?t trong nh?ng gi?y t? sau (kèm theo b?n ch?p ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n l?u h? s?) n?u có: - Gi?y ch?ng nh?n có qu?c t?ch Vi?t Nam; (Certificate of Vietnamese Citizen) - B?n sao ho?c b?n trích l?c Quy?t ??nh cho tr? l?i qu?c t?ch Vi?t Nam; (Copied Certificate of Re-Naturalization to Vietnam Citizen) - B?n sao ho?c b?n trích l?c Quy?t ??nh cho thôi qu?c t?ch Vi?t Nam; (Copied Certificate of Stop Claiming Vietnam Citizenship) - Gi?y xác nh?n m?t qu?c t?ch Vi?t Nam; (Certificate of Loss of Vietnam Citizenship) - H? chi?u Vi?t Nam (còn ho?c ?ã h?t giá tr?); (Vietnam Passport, valid or expired) - Gi?y ch?ng minh nhân dân (còn ho?c ?ã h?t giá tr?); (Vietnam Citizen ID, valid or expired) - Gi?y khai sinh (k? c? b?n sao); (birth certificate, copied is ok) - Th? c? tri m?i nh?t; (Voter Registration Card, latest) - S? h? kh?u; (Family Book) - S? thông hành c?p tr??c 1975; (Passport issued before 1975) - Th? c?n c??c c?p tr??c 1975 (Vietnam Citizen ID Card issued before 1975) - T? trích l?c B? gi?y khai sanh c?p tr??c 1975; (Birth Cerfiicate issued before 1975) - Gi?y t? do c? quan có th?m quy?n c?a n??c ngoài c?p n?u trong ?ó có ghi ng??i ???c c?p gi?y t? ?ó có qu?c t?ch g?c ho?c g?c Vi?t Nam. (Document issued by the foreign country authority states the individual who carries this document has an original VN passport or VN origin. e. Tr??ng h?p không có các gi?y t? t?i kho?n (d) thì n?p m?t trong nh?ng gi?y t? sau: e. if applicants can not provide the required documents in section (d), please submit one of the following forms: - Gi?y b?o lãnh c?a H?i ?oàn c?a ng??i Vi?t Nam ? n??c ngoài ? n??c ???ng s? c? trú (theo m?u quy ??nh); Certificate of Sponsorship by a Vietnamese organization in a foreign country where applicants currently live (see form) - Gi?y b?o lãnh c?a công dân Vi?t Nam (theo m?u quy ??nh). Certificate of sponsorship by a vietnam citizen (see form) Hai lo?i Gi?y b?o lãnh nói trên không c?n ph?i có th? t?c xác nh?n ho?c ch?ng th?c thêm. These two certificate of sponsorship do not need to be certified 2. ??i v?i ng??i n??c ngoài mang h? chi?u n??c ngoài là v?, ch?ng, con c?a công dân Vi?t Nam ho?c ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài, h? s? g?m: Foreign national whose spouse or children are Vietnam Citizen or Vietnamese who live in foreign country need to include: a. 01 T? khai ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (theo m?u); One application of Visa Waiver (see form) b. 02 t?m ?nh màu m?i ch?p c? 4x6 cm, phông n?n tr?ng, m?t nhìn th?ng, ??u ?? tr?n, không ?eo kính màu (01 t?m ?nh dán vào T? khai, 01 t?m ?nh ?? r?i); 02 color photos size 4x6 cm, white background, face forward, no headdress, no sunglasses (affixed one photo in the application, leave one for other use) c. H? chi?u n??c ngoài còn giá tr? ít nh?t 6 tháng k? t? ngày nh?p c?nh (kèm theo b?n ch?p ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n l?u h? s?); A foreign still valid no less than 6 months from the date of entry. (including photocopies for record keeping by the issuance authority) d. M?t trong nh?ng gi?y t? ch?ng minh quan h? v?, ch?ng, con v?i ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài sau ?ây (kèm theo b?n ch?p ?? c? quan có th?m quy?n l?u h? s?): Submit one of the follow document as proof of spousal relationship with Vietnamese who live in foreign country (including photocopies for record keeping by the issuance authority) - Gi?y ??ng ký k?t hôn; (Application of Marriage License, Certified Copy of Marriage License) - Gi?y khai sinh;(Birth Certificate) - Gi?y xác nh?n quan h? cha, m?, con; (Certificate of Relation for father, mother, child) - Các gi?y t? khác có giá tr? theo quy ??nh c?a pháp lu?t Vi?t Nam; (other document as required by VN Laws) - Quy?t ??nh nuôi con nuôi.(Certificate of Adoption) 3. Vi?c c?p l?i, c?p t? l?n 2 Gi?y mi?n th? th?c: Re-issue Visa Waiver Tr??ng h?p xin c?p l?i Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (do m?t Gi?y mi?n th? th?c, Gi?y mi?n th? th?c h?t giá tr? ho?c ???c c?p h? chi?u m?i) t?i c? quan c?p l?n ??u, ng??i ?? ngh? ch? c?n làm 1 T? khai, không c?n xu?t trình gi?y t? ch?ng minh là ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài. Re-apply for Visa-Waiver (re: lost, expired, or applicants have new passport) at the office where applicants initially apply for Visa Waiver. Applicants only need to fill out the Application form and will not not to re-submit all other required documents as proof of VN origin. Tr??ng h?p xin c?p l?i Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (do m?t Gi?y mi?n th? th?c ho?c Gi?y mi?n th? th?c h?t giá tr?) t?i c? quan khác v?i c? quan c?p l?n ??u thì ng??i ?? ngh? n?p h? s? và th? t?c gi?i quy?t nh? c?p l?n ??u. Re-apply Visa Waiver due to lost or expired at another office other than the initial one, applicants must follow all requirement as if applying for visa waiver the first time. III. Th? t?c ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c Methods to request a Visa Waiver Ng??i ?? ngh? c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c có th? tr?c ti?p ho?c g?i qua ???ng b?u ?i?n T? khai, h? chi?u/gi?y t? th??ng trú b?n chính và các gi?y t? ch?ng minh có ngu?n g?c Vi?t Nam ho?c quan h? v?, ch?ng, con v?i công dân Vi?t Nam ho?c ng??i Vi?t Nam ??nh c? ? n??c ngoài (b?n chính kèm b?n ch?p) Visa Waiver Applicants can apply in person or via postal service the Original application, passport/permanent-resident card and all proof of VN origin documents or marriage, parents/child relationship with a VN citizen or VN who live in a foreign country (including photocopies for record keeping by the issuance authority) IV. Th?i h?n c?p Gi?y mi?n th? th?c (Timetable for issuing Visa Waiver) 07 ngày làm vi?c k? t? ngày nh?n ?? h? s? h?p l?. 07 business days from the receiving date of the complete application. Edited by chuckandkim, 06 September 2007 - 09:34 AM.	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-09-06 09:31:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	QUOTE (Thanh @ Sep 4 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read some articles on this, you could potientally void your US citizenship Any credible and official proof? or just hear-say?	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-09-04 14:04:00
Asia: East and Pacific	Visa Waiver for Vietnamese Americans	My travel agent is applying the Visa Waiver for me. I think it costs the same as applying for a Visa. Not sure, just saw the site... Visa Waiver Application for Vietnamese American	chuckandkim	Male	Vietnam	2007-09-04 13:26:00