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Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Monica,
I don't know the answer to that. Sorry.

Have you thought of sending a letter (via email and/or fax) to the consulate addressing any issues/concerns you think they might have? A woman I know said she wrote a rebuttal letter and the denial was reversed. Just a thought...


Evenif they said that it was sent to USCIS on June 14th??
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-16 13:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
still nothing from senator's office...have a feeling the 8 hr time difference is gonna cause problems with getting anything done :angry: Does DOS have accurate info on when the case ACTUALLY leaves the embassy??

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-16 12:36:00
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I'm so sorry, Monica, that just sucks. :( The CO's seem so unpredictable, I hope this doesn't happen but I could imagine coming back on here in 6 months or so reporting that my plan of giving just a few innocuous samples backfired and they rejected us for not having enough evidence. Who knows! I also had a computer die early on in our chats, though I didn't lose as many as you did, less than a full month.

I understand that there is a lot of fraud and a lot of broken hearts coming out of Casa, but I really wonder if that percentage of relationships is "worth" all of the denials. I don't know how many of the fraudulent men who get entrance in the country otherwise behave as contributing, law-abiding members of society, versus how many end up getting government benefits that are never reimbursed, or commit crimes. But unless there's some greater societal impact of a few bad apples getting through, I personally would prefer that the government let women make their own mistakes and not be in the business of judging the validity of the relationship. Maybe if there's some grossly obvious "there is no way any person in the world except her thinks this is real" case, maybe. But if it's two people who have been living together for months and talking for a year, who share a common language????


Exactly...i seriously don't know how they can lump us in with the ppl who don't even know the basic information about their fiance's like: date of birth, where they r from, when they came to visit them even...its crazy...and they r worried about Hicham?!?!?! It all just makes me so mad...and sad...thinking of another yr & knowing that there is NO way to get my 4 yr old to understand WHY he can't be here with us :angry: :ranting: :sleepy: :cry:
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-16 01:05:00
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I completely agree. I plan on providing to the consulate: 1. screenshots of my inbox to show the quantity, dates, and subject lines of emails from my fiance, 2. a log of all of our calls, chats, etc. to show the duration and date, 3. maybe 3 or 4 sample emails just to show that we keep each other up-to-date on our lives, and 4. maybe 15 pages of IM's scattered throughout the last year, samples to show that we actually talk, but nothing too racy or mushy. I was planning on mostly providing small talk or day-to-day chatter, and if there's anything I think the consulate might interpret out of context I was going to redact it. Case in point, my fiance and I started JOKINGLY giving each other love-talk when we were flirting but definitely not actually involved or a real couple or actually meaning it. It was flirty but not serious, and I don't want the consulate to see it in print and conclude that he was making life-long promises to me at a stage when we actually still considered each other friends. Is there any reason why this would be a bad idea? Also, doesn't Casablanca sometimes send men home after the interview and request more information, namely email and chat records? If that happens to us, then I guess it's out of our hands...although unless someone tells me otherwise, I'd still probably redact with a black marker, even if they request that I provide more pages. But my plan is to go heavy on pictures, perhaps get letters from family on both sides attesting to and approving of the relationship, and to go fairly light on emails and especially IM print-outs. I think it's great if a couple can prove that they talk for hours at a time everyday, but handing over the full print-outs leaves a lot of room for misunderstandings.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, and I haven't even filed the I-129F yet. I can't say which way is better. I can certainly see the other side, the argument that giving everything over shows you have nothing to hide. It's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't, either way.


Yeah...i know what u mean...kind of regreting sending him with the nearly 300 pgs of conversations for the interview...but at the same time it sounds like their reason for the denial is that we loved eachother too much too soon...who can decide what is too soon??? Our first email was in January....the first conversations i had to give them weren't until beginning of May, so of course by then we were getting more serious about eachother...why else would we still be talking to eachother. I keep reading about havingto prove what they give as a reason for the denial as not being a good enough reason, but how do u do that when the proof is gone with a dead computer??? I really don't know...i'm just praying that the Senator's office can get it stopped & turned around.

Monica :crying:
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-16 00:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Sure. However I am still skeptical of this. I guess it's because my Dad is a psychologist. I tend to want to look more deeply for reasons for things. Here is an interesting article on a related subject: http://www.pnas.org/.../35/12629.long. Certainly, one has to know a person more deeply to be able to tell if they are lying or not, because you don't know their particular socialization. I remember reading a lot about it when Scott Peterson was in the news. There were psychologists profiting off of him by writing about how you could tell he is lying. Also, I get a lot of training on how to be a better teacher, but I would have to say that it is through experience that I gain the most knowledge. Also, I have to deal with a lot of high risk students with very devious behavior, ad nauseum, but I still must handle them with care and treat them respectfully as human beings, even if I am sick of their behavior.

Also, I found the articles in the NYTimes that were posted lately very informational on how some people come across to Stokes people.


LOL...just breathe everybody :) As far as our case goes...Hicham doesn't know how to lie...lol...if something comes to his mind he says it...there isn't really a filter...can be a very good thing & a very bad thing...lol

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 22:46:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

So, that was a red flag for them.
I wonder why he wouldn't have told you that before. It would have saved you a bunch of time guessing!

Did you ask him how he answered the CO saying he could get a visa through other options?


Hicham said: I told him that I know that there are fakers but our case is true so that we will start everything from zero, meant to him that we will move to the second step marriage
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 22:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

If you don't mind me asking, how long after you started chatting did the "I love you" talk start? Just trying to get an idea what the CO considered to be too soon.


It was about 3 mths, but the problem i just realized (after reviewing the conversations we turned in) they didn't have the first 3 mths of conversations to see how the relationship started, because my computer died.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 22:14:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
ok...new info...Hicham asked why he was denied...CO said because he called me his lasting love to early in the conversations we gave them...i only had available starting beginning of May...i lost the first couple mths of us talking when my computer died...ugg :angry:

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 20:46:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
Not sure if any of u have seen this article....i found it VERY interesting.

Denials of IV at Consulates & DHS petition revocations

Monica :)

Edited by HichaMonica, 15 June 2010 - 07:57 PM.

Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 19:56:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
I know our case isn't fraud, so that's all that matters to me...eventually the embassy will see the same thing...I think most of the ppl here r trying to express what the CO might thinking, not what they are actually thinking about our case...i may be wrong about what the others r thinking though (hope not ;) ) All i know is that we r both strong & ready to do whatever is needed to get our family back together. You can kick us down, but we will get right back up, dust ourselves off & keep on goin :yes:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 18:03:00
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Monica, I'm glad that your senator is giving you some action and I'm glad that you're being proactive about this hurdle. I had 3 thoughts about possible red flags. Please know that I am just offering these as things to think about for fighting the denial. I could be totally wrong about them and I do NOT mean I don't believe your relationship. And I thought overall you had a strong case, to the point that when I heard your denial my heart sank and I thought, "Wow, if they denied, we don't stand a chance!" :unsure: But here are 3 things that I think it wouldn't hurt to address. 1. The relative quickness between the time you met online and when you got engaged and filed. 2. That he has a brother in the United States already. I've read in other stories that having a relative in the U.S. can actually work against you, as it would give a potential motive for wanting to be here. Has the brother already naturalized? If the brother HAS naturalized but is not petitioning for any family to come over, maybe that would be worth pointing out? But if he has not naturalized yet and the family would have to wait for him to be able to sponsor, or especially if the brother is in the process of petitioning for their parents, then you might have to fight the perception that Hicham is just trying to get to the U.S. to reunite with his family the fastest way possible. 3. That you met on a Muslim site even though you weren't Muslim. It might make it look like Hicham changed his standards because you were American, like he was at first looking for a Muslim but when he found out you were American he didn't care that you didn't share his religion.

Again, please please please don't be offended. I'm not at all saying that I think any of this IS what Hicham was thinking. I am just trying to be as hyper-critical as I can to help you come up with responses to the worst that the CO might conclude.

Good luck, and I'm praying for you!


No worries...as i told msheesha...all opinions r accepted...cuz it can open my eyes to things i may not see :) And as far as him wanting to be with his family...Hicham has other ways of getting to the US, he doesn't need me to do so. As for quickness...I have seen many much quicker than mine (a friend of mine even) that were easily approved. And as for the Muslim site...he answered that the same way i would have (even though we had never discussed it...lol) a friend told me about the site & said it was a good one. But i know that was one of their issues too.

Monica :)

I really hope it works out for you. You already were there for a long time. Have you considered moving there with him? Maybe get married there and do a DCF?


have thought about it, but that would still bring up the issue of financial status, and i don't have a good co-sponsor to use, so notreally an option right now. Unless I can somehow find a job i can do from there & get paid up the wazzo... :lol:
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 17:28:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Have your fiance write up a detailed review of ALL the questions he was asked.
How did he respond to them? confidently and honestly
Did he mess up on any dates? Did he stumble on facts? no to both
Did he know your personal history? a resounding YES..we talk ALOT
Does he speak English? English teacher
Do you have a large age gap? he's 5 yrs older
Did you have a short online courtship? we didn't get past friendship for about 3-4 mths
How quickly did he propose? he didn't propose till my 1st visit...i know many propose before meeting
How many trips did you make? 2...1st for 2 wks...2nd 3 mths
Does he have family in the US? one sibling
Cultural/social/religious differences? of course...he's moroccan, i'm american...lol i'm undecided on religion at this point
Financial/education/social status of the beneficiary? he has no problems here
Large disparity in physical appearance? i don't think it should matter, but i know it might to them

Somewhere in there lies the clue to his denial.


Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 17:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

You are right. It is probably a combination of things. What popped out at me was that he proposed to you 8 months after you met online and the first time you met. Then you moved there within the first year. This is a dramatic change for you and your child. Then they told him he could get his visa under other conditions. This suggests to me that the potential is there for him to get the visa, but perhaps you have been hasty and they are going to make you work at it longer and be more patient in order to get it. Thus providing more evidence of stability in the relationship. I was thinking this because on their website, one of their warnings is that you should know the person at least a year before making decisions.


Thats what i figured to...they are testing us....and that's fine with us...test away...they can't break us :) Absence makes the heart grow stronger...I always said if we can make it through ALL of this...we can make it through anything!!!

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 16:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

This is totally just a guess, and I could be way off base, but potentially something to consider. They asked about your financial situation and they asked about why you were on a Muslim site. They could be making leaps and bounds of assumptions (or I could be about what they are doing), but the CO could suspect that you are being paid to bring him here. Add to that, as you said, his family has money, etc.

I could be totally wrong. But, it's something that jumped out about their questioning.
If they know nothing about your financial situation, again, they could be making assumptions about your financial situation.


They could be thinking a million things...i'm really hoping my senator's office can find out exactly what. that brings up a question...if they assume i'm being paid off, but its not the case at all....how do u prove to them otherwise???

Monica :)

P.S. I didn't mean for them to be preseaved as rich...i just meant that they survive on what they have...they aren't desperate like many of the fraud cases.
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 16:00:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Do you want any thoughts about potential red flags that they may be thinking, based on re-reading the interview? I could be totally off base, and it could be useless, so let me know if you want thoughts.


Any thoughts are accepted...i know everyone has their own opinions...and i'm open to them :) I know it helps to have someone not personally involved in the case to give their opinions...no emotions involved :)

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 15:51:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
To those of u who keep asking about our interview & what was asked...here is the link to the original post:

Casa Interview Results

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 15:03:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
they didn't ask for any financial information, and he answered everything correctly
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 14:22:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

I wasn't referring to any one case specifically; I was wondering based on what was written about the CO's not returning a case unless they became aware of more evidence that the DHS did not have. Just wondering if cultural norms, values and judgements of a specific country are considered "evidence" that the CO has but the DHS doesn't necessarily have.

I agree with the other post also. As difficult as it is, try to take the emotion out of it, and review everything from their perspective when devising your response to the situation. It's not easy; I know, but the reality is that they probably already view us as emotional, head over heels, vulnerable women who have let our emotions lead us to a foreign country to get married, involved, etc with foreign men. Therefore, I think the poster is right. We'll all due well to try to take the emotions out of it, as difficult as it is, when developing plans to overcome denials, etc.


I agree...thats why i'm trying my hardest to focus on the facts...like u said...easier said than done with all of the emotions involved...helps having everyone who has been through it to talk to :)

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 14:21:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
Btw, Senator's office is on the case...i told her about everything & forwarded her all the emails between the embassy, refusal form & interview questions...she said she will do whatever she can to stop it & if not she will atleast find out the reason for denial. She was a little disturbed as well about how they seemed to make sure & call before we left & then denied as soon as we were gone.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 14:15:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

The reason they don't care is because if it is a fraud relationship constructed solely for the purpose of securing immigration benefits, then, it's no surprise that the Moroccan family is more than happy to be kind, generous, loving and very accepting of the American wife and her child (from a previous marriage/relationship). It's their ticket to the U.S.A in the near future, after all. I'm not saying this is true in your case or in any other case but you have to think like a CO sitting at the highest-fraud consulate. Would these Moroccan families be just as accepting of their sons marrying an older woman from their community who has a child from a previous relationship/marriage?

Now--you have to sit and think about ALL your red flags (and you'd probably know them best), how you can address them and eventually overcome them. Focus on the response. Good luck.


I guess u r right...its just hard when u know its true and not just a show...they don't need a ticket to the US...he has a brother there...his family doesn't need a meal ticket...they have money...so i really don't know. The only other things they really questioned about was him working for the government & my financial status (but they never asked for any papers to confirm or deny any assumsions) :wacko:

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 14:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

I wonder if the fraud level, perceived or accurate, in a specific country (such as Morocco) is something the consular officers consider as evidence of which they are aware, and DHS is not. Also age differences, previous marriage/s and/or children from previous relationships, etc, etc, etc, and the cultural norms in Morocco connected to these - I wonder if these are things that the co's are allowed to consider "evidence" that they have and the DHS does not. Does anyone know?


I would think if they r basing it also on "out of cultural norms" then they should also take in to consideration how the Moroccan family feels about it, because every family is different on their views. If it was because of my daughter, then its because they didn't try to get any information about the relationship...they only asked her age...if they saw even one pic of her with him or his family, they would see that they accepted her whole heartedly & were devestated when we left.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 13:59:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Ok, isn't there a document you can file under the freedom of information act? Actually, I know there is because USCIS told me about it. You have to pay a fee and it does take a little bit of time but you would at least have that information before another interview for the CR1. Call USCIS and get that filed as soon as you can because you will get copies of everything and it is illegal for them to keep it from you.


yeah...i found it...got it filed out, just have to get it in the mail :) Still trying to figure out what is best to do...wait, refile k1 or get married & do CR-1??? Maybe i should start a poll...that could be interesting to see :)

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 11:46:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Monica I am so so sorry that you are going through this. I know exactly how you feel because this happened to me and my husband. Please try to keep it at Casa I pray pray that this can turn around for you guys. I know you have already waited so long to be as a family...but be strong. I was not so lucky and our case was sent back to uscis and they took four months to let me know they had received it..and took them over a year to even touch it..and we are still waiting for news from Casa..insha allah things will turn out for you..please know if you need someone to talk too I am here. (F)


Thank u so much...from what i keep reading it seems like unless we can stop it at Casa (which my congressman's office said we can't...ugg) then it would probably be better to just go back and get married...since we would be waiting probably almost a yr to hear back anyway. Its so frustrating...atleast my daughter hasn't fully realized what's going on yet...I dread when she starts asking why she will see Hicham again...she has been so excited about us getting married so, as she says "when u marry my mom i can call u daddy" :(
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 10:45:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/3896-returning-petitions-to-the-united-states-via-221g/page__view__findpost__p__3607554

Monica,
Not sure if that link works, but it's in the pinned thread. It was Kiyah's response to tany's post about being denied. It might help you cut through some of the other pages in the pinned thread. Anything from the senator?


Well...congressman's office was USELESS...said they can't do anything right now...that the COs are protected from being contacted by the or something, so they can't affect their decision :bonk: Writing up requests for the consular notes with the DOS & USCIS, which i found in Kiya's info...and the guy at the congressman's office said a letter should be generated that i should receive soon in regards to why our case was denied...doesn't sound like anything anyone has mentioned here...was hoping for more assistance...he said to call back if i get stuck & can't get info...HELLO...CAN'T GET INFO!!!! that's the reason why i called!!! So they can't stop it from coming back...will try Senator now...Inshallah THEY can do something!!

Monica

Note: Senator person not in till after 9am...go figure...that's been my luck!!!

Edited by HichaMonica, 15 June 2010 - 10:33 AM.

Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 10:30:00
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ok...just called Casablanca...She said "we can not discuss anything about your case over the phone or email. USCIS will contact you to let you know why your case was sent back for review."

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 09:19:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
faxed release to senator...the person at the congressman's office is back in today...will call when they open in 1 hr...will be a LONG hr...so there is a chance to get it turned around there? From what i've seen, if it gets back to the US it takes many months to get anything done on it...am i thinking right? :help:

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 09:09:00
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Gmorning everybody!! Ok...emailed the embassy & they replied already...here is what they said.

Dear Madam,



Thank you for your email inquiry. Mr. XXXXX’s visa has not been denied. His petition was returned to the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on June 14, 2010 for further review. In order to seek information on the status of the case, you should contact the USCIS National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283. However you are advised to wait a few weeks before contacting USCIS to allow them to receive and review the file.



Due to the personal nature of the information, the file was sent via registered diplomatic pouch.



Regards,



Immigration Visa Unit

United States Consulate General

8 Boulevard Moulay Youssef

Casablanca, Morocco



Email Address: ivcasablanca@state.gov

Public inquiries number: 0661 99 83 64. Hours: 3-4 pm

Frequently asked questions: http://casablanca.us...e.gov/faqs.html

nz

en
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 08:53:00
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What he actually said was, "We are sorry, we can not give you the visa. But this is not the end, you can get the visa under other conditions" The first statement is what i understood over the phone...i have sinse spoke with Hicham online...easier to get exact words that way :)

Monica

Edited by HichaMonica, 14 June 2010 - 07:23 PM.

Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 19:22:00
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ok...so they won't renew it? It will expire on june 25th like its supposed to?

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 13:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview
How do we find out what he was denied for if they wouldn't tell him?
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 13:11:00
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So....what r the odds of getting it back to the embassy or stay at the embassy & getting approved?? Is it better to fight to get it approved or withdraw it & get married???

Thanks everybody!!

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 13:01:00
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Ok...they checked the Section 221(g) No other reason listed

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 12:54:00
Middle East and North AfricaUPDATE on Casa Interview

Take the energy from being pissed and use it to get stuff done. The above it right - you need to work to get it turned around before they send it back. It really sucks that they delayed the denial so you couldn't get married while you were over there. Seems like you gave them a little info and they used it against you, maybe?

There is also a lady out of an Ohio senator's office who is looking into the reason that there are so many denials out of Casa. She can't do the inquiry for you, but it might be good to give her the info of your case, especially since you and your daughter lived there for a while. She may be interested. Let me know if you (or anybody else) wants her phone #.


Hicham is getting the paper scanned...and i would like to have the # for the Ohio senator. We r still trying to figure out what happened...will let u know as i find out more.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 12:24:00
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They are amazing. Been there..... They just did not want you coming to the Consulate so they knew to wait until you left. Try to get your Congressman/Senators on them now before the case gets sent back. BTW they will tell you they sent the case back but usually it sits in Casa for at least 1 to 2 months. I hope you can get some results soon.


k...good to know...i'm trying to call them both now...one at Senator's office is out of office till tomorrow :angry: I'm still a LITTLE pissed...lol
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 11:46:00
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Ok...i'm going to try to write this calmly & retionaly, excuse me if I don't. Hicham was DENIED this morning...no questions asked or anything. They brought him back and said, We are not approving your case, we will be sending it back to the US and you can move on with the next step of marriage." Excuse my language, but #######!!! Why not tell him over the phone BEFORE we left...why make sure he brings his passport?? They gave no reason, just that. I'm trying to contact my congressman to see what the options are, but i know our case expires June 25th, so we don't have much time...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...I'm just fumming right now!! They meant to make us think he was approved RIGHT before I left...they knew when we were leaving :angry: Ok...trying to breathe...I guess I should calm down before I write anymore or say something i might regret...lol Thanks everybody for the support.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-14 11:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaCasa case refused & returned to USCIS
I know there are more than that who have been returned to USCIS...

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 13:30:00
Middle East and North AfricaCasa case refused & returned to USCIS
and what r ppls view on the DCF?? How many have done it?? Where u approved?? And how did u work during that time, or did u? Did they question your income, etc?? Forgot to add that question :)

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 12:16:00
Middle East and North AfricaCasa case refused & returned to USCIS
Thought it would be interesting to get everyones ideas and thoughts on this in one place in an easy to see way :) Let me know what u guys think :)

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-15 11:56:00
Middle East and North Africaonline jobs
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http://www.sonoranbloom.com/13470436

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-13 14:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaCasa Interview Today

Yep, I would prefer to marry here since we just had the engagement party there with "his side" and it's easier to do a Moroccan wedding a year late than an American wedding....The K-1 seems to be the best way for us to keep both "sides" involved. But sometimes I think about the odds for a fiance versus a spouse and I think we should just go ahead and marry on my next trip anyway to save ourselves a year of fighting a denial.


Yeah...we are having the same problems also...I really want everyone here to be involved, but with all of this...i don't know any other way...so we are thinking...if we have to get married in morocco, we can do a renewal of vows type cermony here. Keeps both sides involved. Mom still doesn't see it as a "real" wedding though. lol

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-20 15:46:00