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Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

I think most people in all religions have the temptation rationalize their negative behavior nd pick and choose things from their religion that work for them. So, while it'd be nice to be able to assume that religiousity = honesty, I don't think that's always the case.
Monica, as far as what they want from you, I think they gave you some clues in your interview. How do you sucessfully explain why you were on an Islamic website to meet people, and prove that you are financially self-sufficient to the point that you would not accept $ in return for visa assistance. I don't know how to go about proving that. If you're up for it, a consultation with an immigration atty specializes in denials at the consulate level might be worth it. Or, perhaps trying to get your question answered during the free chat that Laurel Scott does might be helpful. Just some food for thought.


I'm not saying i disagree with them having doubt, but if they were truely concerned about my financial situation then they should ask for the affidavit of support (they didn't) and any answer my fiance would give wouldn't convince them for why I was on a muslim dating site, because that would be a question for me. I know that I will one day convert to islam, and so want a husband that will be able to help me learn as much as possible....but I still have a lot to learn...i'm not in to jumping in to something, especially a relgion, even if i know i will be there eventually. But as I said...if these were truely concerns...why not ask for the evidence concerning it?

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-09 13:10:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread
I'm actually to the point where I have no clue what they want anymore. So I guess we will see what happens with our case & go get married if need be. And I have also heard of and seen many fraud cases....but it is something that can happen with any country. One thing I'm wondering about our Moroccan men...for those that have shown & proven they are not fraud cases...how serious are your SOs in their religion? I'm wondering if this makes a difference also....i'm thinking if u have a man that "fears God" and comes from a family that is just as serious about their religion...does this make a difference on if they will be a fraud case or not?? What is everyones opinion?? And does anyone think there is any way to show the COs your are serious without them "testing" your relationship by denying u and making u start all over again?? Just a few questions to throw out there.


Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-09 12:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread
have any of the recent approvals received their visas yet?? Inshallah the recent interviews go smoothly for everybody.

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-08 12:37:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread
I think about all u can do is go in the way u feel comfortable with & go from there. They are going to make up their minds no matter how much or how little evidence u have. I've heard approvals & denials both ways. I think they've made up their minds before they even come in for the interview. And of course they want to test your relationship....if your relationship isn't strong enough to get through all of this...then there is no way u will make through a marriage...atleast in my opinion :) Best of luck to those with up coming interviews.

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-07-06 13:33:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread
Looks like we were 4 for 4 for June :dance:

July has 3 listed...all K1s

So bahisgirl, pinkamirah, and khadija & ibrahim...anyone else coming up???

How r all of u July interviews doing??

Hope we can keep the approvals coming!!

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-30 12:08:00
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:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: CONGRATS SARAH!!!! I'm soooo happy for u guys!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Guess all this hoping is getting ppl approved.....woohoo!!! Hope there r more to come.

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-30 09:39:00
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Congrats msheesha & Vanessa...I'm so happy that we are finally hearing APPROVED out of Casa!!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

INSHALLAH you will hear it too tomorrow Sarah!!! All our prayers are with you!!!

Malika :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-29 11:45:00
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CONGRATS Alicia & Driss!!! Another Casa APPROVED!!! Keep them coming!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 21:59:00
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Yeah...where did all the happy dances go???

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Remember there was an APPROVAL this week...LOL

Wasn't there supposed to be another interview today???

How's your prep going Sarah??

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 15:31:00
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:wow: Glad the beer goggles college phrase can amuse folks to such a degree. Hadn't heard that since college days. I'm guessing for those dealing with the stress of upcoming interviews, waiting for word on past interviews, or dealing with denials, it takes more than a silly phrase to get amused.

Everyone knows the obvious red flags - huge age difference, children from past relationships, large disparity in physical appearance, etc, etc, etc.

I'd love to hear constructive thoughts about other issues that haven't been discussed ad nauseum. What about the question of religion. Stasshi, Zaytoona, any thoughts about that? What about the cases where both the USC and the beneficiary are pretty poor, but equally matched in the monetary situations? Out of the recent denials, how many of the Moroccan men were employed vs. unemployed? Is that a factor that the CO looks at?


Yeah...some of us just need a good laugh...helps relieve a tiny bit of the tension for a moment. As for employment....yes, my fiance is employed and had a letter from his employer stating his 5 yrs of working there. The only thing from your list I can see is my daughter....but if they were really concerned about it, i would think that would have addressed it at the interview...like i said before, the only thing they asked him about her was about my child support & how old she is...doesn't sound like concern to me.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 14:29:00
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I like my men third-world and FOBulous!



LOVE IT :rofl:

Needed a good laugh...thanks :rofl:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 14:12:00
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Poll on Cases returned to USCIS


Thanks to anybody who can add to the poll.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 13:32:00
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I mean to say "SO" not "CO"

Another thing you should look at is this: If my MENA SO was born and raised in America, would he still be interested in me and would we be a good match?

I don't know how to edit!


I think u can only edit right after u post :) And the edit button is at the bottom of your post.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 13:26:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

Monica,
You might try pm'ing Kiyah. From what I've heard, she has done the most research on returned petitions. You might try emailing the consulate and asking them to outline the CO's specific concerns and reasons for returning the petition. Possibly say you're planning to continue on in the process and you need to be able to address their specific concerns. Or ask your senator's immigration person to do that. Either way, you could try pm'ing Kiyah to get her thoughts.

Many people have posted about MENA men typically not being interested in women who have children from previous relationships/marriages. Do you think that's something that the CO saw as a red flag, and if so, did your fiance address why this wasn't an issue for him?


Hicham has tons of pics with him & his family with my daughter that were never looked at, and the only thing they asked about her was how old she is...so I don't know if they saw it as an issue...if they did, they didn't ask about it. And I've called & emailed the embassy to find out the reason and I was told they can't that info out by email or the phone, that I had to wait till it got to USCIS...ugg And I will remind my Senator's office about checking on the refusal reason.
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 12:16:00
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Monica,
How are you doing? I know you were hoping to get back to Morocco and get married. How are you doing with the change of plans?


We are up in the air right now...i have no clue what we should. From what ppl on this topic r saying, it looks like the odds of reaffirmation are pretty much impossible :( So that would bring us to 3 options: wait and see what happens with this one, refile the K1, or marry & do the CR1. But with either option, I'm still wondering how do I find out the reason for the denial, because, from what i've read, the 1st denial will come up any route we take. :wacko: I've read the pinned link about 221(g), but i think i just got more confused...lol

Thanks to everyone for all the support.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 12:08:00
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No, they do count what happens after filing... That's why people recommend sending your SO to interview with a stack of chat logs- the chat logs should be from the time the petition is filed up to the interview, to prove an ongoing relationship.. I just guess in Monica's case, her visit wasn't enough to disuade them from other issues they found..


Wish i know that the "other issues" were :( And I know it will probably just come & expire....but all i was saying is that there is a CHANCE that it might now. I know CSC has been changing their ways, and my Senator's office seems to be on top of it...so I'm just HOPING that will help. I know that it might not, but I won't give up fighting or hope. We probably won't be able to pull off the getting married this yr, so AFTER I find out why we were denied, we will probably refile the K1...atleast if it's denied again we can do the CR1 immediately after. And I also remember reading that they can't deny you for the same thing twice if the embassy sends it back & USCIS reaffirms it (please correct me if I'm wrong).

If anyone HAS gotten their case reaffirmed please let me know how you did it....I know it happens...Hoping never hurt anyone :) Figure we are waiting till we can refile anyway.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-24 11:18:00
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As Sarah said...I DID give too much evidence at the interview...but we can't take that back...all we can do is warn others so they can learn from our mistakes. But everything for a reason I say :) Some good news on our side though...we FINALLY got a reply to the Senator's office from the Consulate!!!

Thank you for your inquiry on behalf of your constituent Ms. Monica XXXXXXXX regarding her fiancé’s I-129F petition. Mr. XXXXXX’s visa has not been denied. His case was returned to the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on June 14, 2010 for further review. Due to the personal nature of the information, the file was sent via registered diplomatic pouch (Reg # XXXXXXX).


Because of the issues you and others before you have raised, I instructed all adjudicating officers several months ago to extend the validity of any returned K-1 petitions for the maximum period allowable by regulation, so that the interested parties would have an opportunity to respond to any issues of concern in the return memorandum.


The Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services should be contacting your constituent to discuss the return of the petition to their office. However, if she wishes to seek information on the status of the case, she should contact the USCIS National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283. She is advised to wait a few weeks before contacting USCIS to allow them to receive and review the file.


I hope the above information will be of use to constituent. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

So it looks like we will have a chance to fight back. Our Senator's Office is staying on top of our case...So glad she is all over it!!! So its looks like we will wait and see what happens with this first. Any pointers would be great!! I'm just excited we have a CHANCE now...I'd given up any hope on this visa.

Lets keep the good news comin everybody!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 22:58:00
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I have wondered why the surge in denials. If there even really is a surge in denials. Since everything is based on anecdotes, it sure "feels" that way reading VJ but maybe that's not even the case overall! The thing that I find unusual is that if the denials ARE actually increasing it's got to be because of bad feedback from somewhere, whether a top-down government thing, like ICE or some government agency located in the US complaining that too many frauds were getting through, or from angry USC ex-spouses who contacted the consulate and blamed them for letting in their fraudulent ex. In other words, if Casablanca weren't hearing from SOMEWHERE that frauds were making it into America, there would be no reason to get tougher on new couples. Yet several posters have indicated that Casablanca is being questioned or possibly even investigated for all the denials, which implies that there is a push-back in the other direction. Who knows...maybe senators have just been saying that to make their constituents feel better, or maybe there was a miscommunication somewhere and they were just being empathetic.

So, here's a question for those of you with more experience on this board than me. Do we see any specific areas where Casa has toughened up? It seems like age difference is no longer as much of a red flag as it used to be, not that the consulate is going any easier on couples with big age differences but in the sense that they are getting tougher on couples without that issue. Monica's SO had fluency in English and they were denied, but I believe Zaytoona's SO was also fluent in English and he was approved. Has anyone else seen a trend there? As I recall, in years passed, poor English had been a frequent reason for denials. Or what about with the number of visits, the length of those visits, and the overall length of the courtship? Perhaps Casablanca has a new unwritten standard there.

I know many of these things can't be changed. You love who you love, and there are some red flags that can be addressed but not eliminated. But if there are any specific trends we can identify that would probably be helpful.


Zaytoona's SO was approved...got the visa 3 days later. And Hicham didn't propose for 10 mths, been together 1 yr 5 mths, 2 visits, total time in person together 4 months.
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 19:14:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

My point wasn't to just bash the CO's or argue that scammers who might prey on the most vulnerable women should be rewarded with immediate green cards. What concerns me, though, is that there seems to be a trend developing in Casa where the couples getting rejected don't fall into the "obvious red flag" category. To be clear, I haven't even filed any visa paperwork (yet) and I have no experience with Casa (yet). As I start to gather evidence and look critically at my relationship to anticipate any concerns the CO's might have, I find it frustrating that there aren't clearer standards. To my knowledge - which I admit is largely conjecture, based on anecdotes I've read about on the internet - it doesn't seem to me that there is a very high fraud rate among Moroccan-American couples who have more in common and who took more time getting to know each other (in other words, Moroccan-American couples that are similar to couples you'd routinely see in either America or Morocco). Maybe I'm just flat wrong, and I welcome any statistics or sources that contradict that. And as Sarah has said, it seems like Casa CO's frequently don't even look at the evidence or give the man an opportunity to make his case. What I wanted to convey in my earlier posts is that Morocco undoubtedly IS a very high fraud country, but I'm not convinced that the individual couples appearing before the CO's are being given fair and consistent opportunities to demonstrate why they aren't frauds - especially when their stories are not rife with the "classic signs."


HERE HERE...I completely agree...I have NO clue why they are denying some of our cases with any only reason listed as 221(g)...what does that even mean??? How can I prove them wrong with NO real reason??? If someone sees something I don't that seems like a red flag...PLEASE tell me!!! I WANT u to be blunt and to the point...don't worry about hurting my feelings :D Ok...maybe i'm still a LITTLE frustrated...lol...but everything for a reason right??

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 18:01:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

I don't think many Western women realise what a big deal it is to live with their MENA boyfriends/fiances (and especially at his parents' house), and that MENA women usually have the religious ceremony but don't live with their husbands until after the 'big wedding' even though that may be months or even years later. It just shows what a huge culture clash there is between the two sides, and I've seen it happen over and over again with MENA/Western couples in real life. One may think it's not a big deal now, but for most couples (admittedly not all) this difference in culture will rear its head several times, especially when there are children.

It's this 'turning a blind eye' to MENA cultural norms that makes me wonder if a guy's family are indirectly helping their son.


I hear what you are saying also, but I think it also depends on the family. Cuz I think a lot of that depends how strong their beliefs may be, life experiences with other ciltures, etc. Some have been to other countries or been around ppl from other cultures since they were young, so they may have different views then the others that live in the "country" and have not experienced anything outside of where they live. And every case is different. My daughter & I had our own room on a different floor, and were never left alone together. I know how the culture works there, and I think his family also understands alot about mine, but they also know that staying in their house is the only way for us to spend time together to get to know eachother face to face. Which is done there between engaged couples with a family member supervision. So I think its hard to judge all cases, because each one is different for either own reasons. But I also know that some ignore their culture/beliefs to get that green ticket for their child. I think everyone should know as much as they can about their SOs culture & vice versa to truely understand eachother & why things are done the way they are.

Monica :)

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Another Casa VJ interview tomorrow, bonne chance Driss and Alicia ;)


SORRY SARAH...i KEEP getting drawn in...LOL

Hoping for some more good news tomorrow!!! I wanna party dance all through your interview Sarah!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:


Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 17:41:00
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I wasn't 'judging' or 'bashing.' Neither am I wishing any one ill-will. I don't see where I said 'my way was the best/right way' or that 'only my relationship is genuine' so I'm not sure where you got that from. I am a big advocate of the 'whatever floats your boat, man' philosophy.

Being apart is one of the hardest things about this proccess and I remember it vividly and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.

I'm just giving my opinion as a neutral, third party observer who is not emotionally invested in what's going on in Casa. I know that people are looking for 'support' but often support groups will only tell each other what they WANT to hear instead of what they NEED to hear or SHOULD hear. Raging or rating against the CO's is of no use. They are simply doing their job which is confounded by vulnerable women who go refuse to listen to reason or watch out for the warning signs. Unfortunately or not, they do go by 'conventional,' or 'real world' standards. They look at a relationship and say 'does this make sense?' If it doesn't make sense to me, who is simply a uninterested party in the situation, how do you expect them to buy it, especially given the context and country. I see a 60 year old, sagging, toothless, rich guy with a hot, nubile 19 year old. My LOGIC says, she's after his money. Now, could she possibly be madly and deeply in love with him? Sure. Not impossible. But improbable. Like I said, it's simply 'my opinion' -- 'take it or leave it.'

Most people are way too emotional about this process and I'll admit it's hard to be objective. However, you need to be methodical and rational about it and pinpoint your red-flags so that you're prepared to confront them head-on instead of brushing them under the rug, burying your head in the sand and putting up a giant banner that reads 'NOT MY MAN.'

It's unfortunate that the situation has deteriorated and a 'few apples have spoilt the whole bunch,' so to speak.


I think u're right about ppl being too sensative sometimes...when we were denied i wanted HONEST opinions on what ppl thought...that's why i made a DETAILED list of the questions....i WANT to know what others may think, cuz that will help us, NOT hurt us. Tell me flat out please...don't hold back :) lol But it is hard to hear that the person u love may not be there person you thought by someone who doesn't really know u. So i can really see both sides. But if u r sure about your relationship then it shouldn't be a problem to get some HONEST and OPEN advice from an unrelated point of view.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 17:03:00
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fraud. age differences. these are not exclusive to mena. so can we get back on topic rather than beat the horse to death (like it has hundreds of times before) about age differences and so on?


Age difference is an issue in MENA??? ;) :bonk: :rofl:

:ot2: I WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT THE APPROVAL!!! Pretty Please :yes:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 16:51:00
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You are not wrong. Sooo many women who date/marry MENA men get used and treated like #######. I think the reason why people get so frustrated about the methods of the Casa consulate is because too often, they seem to have their mind made up through preconceptions before the beneficiary ever walks through the door- and then they don't allow the beneficiary's evidence to be presented at interview to counteract the CO's preconceptions. And as many people who have had experience with this consulate will tell you, they can be quite shady about how they handle people's cases.

No one who's stepped foot into a MENA country is going to deny the kind of fraud that goes on there. If they do, they're naive and foolish. But people should be given an opportunity to properly present THEMSELVES, as opposed to being lumped into a negative stereotype (i.e. slimy, manipulative Moroccan men who'd sell their mother for a green card). If everyone is presumed a liar upon entry to the consulate, and the CO's are being too lazy to actually look at evidence- that's unfair.

That's why people get frustrated about Casablanca.
We're not all fat and old and ugly as sin, btw.. and not all of us are with men 1/2 our age.. lol

Sarah


Very true...they don't give a reason...they get up your hope (bring your passport to 2nd interview) and then dash it (flat out denial). Really makes me wonder what they base their decisions on sometimes. Because I am like Sarah...Hicham is 5 yrs OLDER then me, and my daughter & i spent 3 months with him and his family. Another thing I'm wondering...some ppl say they tell the embassy they (the USC) paid their own way & others have their fiance or family pay their way. I can see both of these 2 ways...cuz it can be viewed if the USC pays then the fiance doesn't have the money so is desperate to get out of where they are, but also if the fiance pays it could be seen as they are "paying you off" to marry them. So what do u do?? LOL

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 16:49:00
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I'm going to say something unpopular so try not to flame me.

More than half the MENA-American couples I spot here on VJ -- I have a hard time buying that theirs is a true and genuine, loving relationship. I can't, in good conscience, say that I believe it. I'd like to but I don't. Call me cynical. Most of them smell of fraud and exhibit the 'classic signs.' If I, as a neutral, third-party observer, can't buy it then how do you expect a CO, sitting at the highest fraud consulate in the world, to buy it? Really, come on, now.

I come from a 3rd world country, believe me, I have seen desperation and poverty and the lengths people would go to, to escape it.

I have to agree with Stasshi here. The Casa consulate has a difficult job. Their job is to protect America - it's borders and it's citizens.

Whether you, the USC petitioner feel like you need 'protecting' or not -- seriously, some of the women on here do seem to be blind as bats. Flying half-way across the world to marry someone who popped the question after talking online for two months is not 'spontaneous' and 'romantic' but just plain dumb. There. I said it. "He loves me even though I'm old as his mother and ugly as sin. This is what true love is. He is humiliated by his friends and peers but he takes it like a man. He is -- my man." I don't know whether to laugh or cry. People would sell their mothers for a greencard. And you think a few months of tasteless jokes is a tough price to pay for a GC?



I hear you and agree...mostly :) I have also experienced first hand what these Moroccan men are willing to do to get a green card...they are smooth and VERY convincing...and I have seen cases as well that I wondered...then there are others that look like they just "click". I don't have ill feelings towards the COs for denying us...I know they have a CRAZY hard job...one that I would NEVER want to do. And I've also heard that a HUGE percentage of ppl denied K1s don't refile K1 or CR1...its crazy hard to get through the denial process, and is something that someone who wants a green card, usually won't waste their time on, cuz they usually have another on the line to fall back on. Believe me...after my past experience I still had a bit of doubt too until I lived with him and his family for 3 mths, and how his parents are together & all of his siblings with their spouses. But I know there are still many out there searching for the green ticket. And I feel so sorry for the ones that get caught unknowingly in their trap. Its hard to step back from your relationship and look at it with an outsiders point of view. That's why I'm glad I have great friends that aren't afraid to tell me exactly what they think...lol If it was me...i rather someone tell me now, then finding out when he steps off the plane & runs, or even worse...waits till he gets citizenship & runs. Ok...I'm babbling and I don't really know why...lol I hope everyone has found "the one" that truely loves them. And I wish everyone the bestof luck in their tedious visa journeys. And thank u sachinky for your upfront view on things...I for one appreciate an outsiders point of view...even if i may not want to hear what they have to say sometimes :whistle:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 16:21:00
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Where did you see that??? I can't wait to read about it!!!


On her profile...she said they said approved pending the I864...guess they aren't taking the other one for K1s now...interesting i thought.

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 15:03:00
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FINALLY!!! An approval from Casa!!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: CONGRATS Linda!!!
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-23 13:59:00
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nope...linda hasn't been on since early this morning :( Hoping for some good news
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-22 21:13:00
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I 2nd that....GOOD LUCK to everybody!!!

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-20 21:30:00
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I 100% agree...they need to hear some good news over there...maybe we should start a topic for Moroccan success stories & then send the link to the embassy :) Any little thing might help. Our case got out of Casa so we will be right behind u with the CR1....atleast I have my rebuttle letter already written...lol

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-18 10:11:00
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The joys of the mentallity of doing it later...we have time...no worries :lol: :yes: u know what i'm talkin about!! 2 weeks...wow...time is flying!!! Hoping to hear ANYTHING on our case tomorrow. From what I understand...if it leaves Casa, we don't really have a chance, since California just lets them expire (if i'm wrong here someone PLEASE correct me) So I will be heading back to get married & start all over again...what's another yr compared to a lifetime...doesn't sound good when i write it either. Tomorrow will tell & Hopefully u guys will get all your papers Squeaky so no more havin to wrry about it :) Just tell him...u don't do it, u're locked out...hehehe :whistle:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 18:10:00
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Sorry, squeaky, don't mean to go off-topic, but imho this is important...

Monica - we know you want to vent, we know that you want advice, we know that you want to express how you feel - we know because we all do the same lol...what I am trying to tell you is please bear in mind that some information can be misinterpreted and might be used against you. If you can't understand that, then so be it.

Don't worry, squeaky, I'll be off now. Good luck to you and everyone else with your applications :thumbs:



This.

I really am going now, bye!


Yes, I understand that any information can be misinterpreted....either here or the information that we give them, that's why I was saying that its good for us to try to explain to them what we mean, that way we don't get misinterpreted. Anything can be read in to just about any statement....I think it's our & especially our SOs jobs to make sure that the CO understands correctly the information provided to them. And if I remember right (i may be wrong) most of what I have posted is related to what the CO has said to us & trying to get more information to be able to handle the situation correctly. And I greatly appreciate those that have been helpful & supportive. I'm sharing so that others can learn from our experience & hopefully not make some of the same mistakes that we did.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 15:52:00
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seriously....i don't care if they read what i post...i post how i feel, because my relationship is important to me & i wanna do whatever i can to get us together...so hopefully they will learn something about us by reading our posts.

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 15:13:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

yeah that's why they never look at the proof lol :devil:


They took our 300 pgs of conversations at the first interview....then gave all the evidence back at the refusal appointment (don't consider it an interview since no questions were asked) including the original stuff i sent with the 129F...should make for an interesting review when it gets back to the US. :wacko:

Monica
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 14:38:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread

But if it's the consulate you're referring to, they can tell who we all are by our timelines anyway - just looking at a few key dates is enough for them to know who is who...


Ok...just burst our bubbles...lol...j/k :) They know ppl need to vent & they know this site is for helping eachother out, so I think if we all start worrying about every little thing that they might read that we right we will stress ourselves out. They want to know the truth...they will read the truth when we pour it out in our posts. I want them to know how I feel about the whole situation...that's why I wrote a page long rebuttle letter. If we weren't on here fighting and defending our relationships, and upset about what's going on...then how important were they to us in the first place?? So we care...if they will deny us for that, then nobody has a chance...seriously!! I hope they come read everything that I've said...maybe then they will see how serious we really are. They NEED to research more in to the actual relationships instead of just little stuff they happen to get from us. Go & see our facebook pages & see how are family & friends are involved on both sides and how they are affected by the handling of our cases. They need to see the whole picture instead of the little window of evidence that we are able to get in front of them. Just my little two cents...sorry for the rampage...lol Done now :whistle:

Monica :)
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 13:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaThe hoping not to be denied at Casablanca thread
Most definately....ranting gets all the tension out so we don't let it out somewhere else :D
Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-17 12:48:00
Middle East and North AfricaM.M.Mmmm (MENA.Musical.Moods)
love the song Aya....I haven't been in the happiest moods so here's mine...i couldn't decide so i put both...lol

Malika :)

Always+ForeverFemaleMorocco2010-06-30 14:05:00
Middle East and North AfricaHow can I divorce a man married in Morocco, but I am USA

Can anyone give me advise on how to divorce a man that I married in Morocco? I am in the USA, never filed papers, nothing.. I found out that he is a liar and just wants a green card.. I know, my mistake.. Now he will not divorce me in Morocco ~ Can I do this in USA?

If anyone can help it is so much appreciated.. Thank you all..



Was your marriage recognized in the USA (no filing of papers necessary - unless things have changed since I did it)? If so, then yes, you can do it from here. All you have to do is serve him there. He has 30 days to reply, if he doesn't, you get everything you want. If you want more info, just let me know. My divorce was successful from my Egyptian SOC. If it wasn't a recognized marriage in the USA, then I'm not sure what you would have to do.
Ahmed N TinaFemaleEgypt2013-03-27 16:17:00
Middle East and North AfricaEgyptian Food-- Help!
The link off U-tube Videos. Funny though: Looks Indian. Food is Food. Beef, Poultry, Pork. It is all how you pre-pare it. Some of the veggies may differ but there is always a Substitute.
Tim/MavMalePhilippines2011-06-08 19:55:00
Middle East and North AfricaEgyptian Food-- Help!
Do This: No More needed. Go to U-Tube Videos and look-up Egypt cooking and there will be 500 Recipes just to start then you will get idea.
My Fiancee is Philipphines and I had to Learn alot. But, since I love to cook. It was all easy. Just a Change of Ingredients. LOL
Tim/MavMalePhilippines2011-06-08 19:40:00
Middle East and North Africahelp my man got a job offer in the U.S.
I can see the OP's Confusion. There is a pending K-1 Petition. And now followed by a work Visa. Will it affect the K-1 Process? I really don't know because the intent is to marry. The 129-F is Filed and a matter of record. Senior members hopefuly can help.
Tim/MavMalePhilippines2012-06-08 22:53:00