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Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMy wife left me!
QUOTE (mox @ Feb 25 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I guess we're not gonna let it die. Dammit, I just hosed off all the mud and put on clean clothes. But hey, I'll jump back in... smile.gif

QUOTE (slim @ Feb 25 2008, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll jump back into the fray here and (sorry didn't quote everyone) respond first to mox when he posted that I was trying to cover Satellite's responses as simply a cultural thing that we westerners couldn't understand. Not exactly what I meant but close. I'll simply say that when you have a young (pissed off) Russian wife living with you in the States and she does something that wouldn't normally be done in the States, there's not a whole lot you can do to rectify the situation and if you're lucky you can laugh at it. Too bad it has to be at others' expense but when it comes down to it, is it better to have the Russia forum's panties in a bunch or your wife's? And I'm in no way shape or form trying to say that Satellite doesn't understand American culture to the point where he inadvertantly offended everyone, all I'm saying is he avoided being even more in the dog house and he and his wife got to enjoy themselves a little bit.

I can dig this. But that's not what's really going on here. Because if that's what was truly going on, Satellite would have come back and just said "sorry folks, my wife hijacked my account, it's not true, nothing to see here." That's all it would have taken. A real apology would have been gravy, but whatevs.

I even forgave the "sucker" comment. It stung, it pissed me off, but I swallowed my pride and was prepared to move on. Again, if it was a doghouse scenario, then it would have ended right there. Satellite had the option of just not replying or issuing an apology. I did not ask for nor expect the latter, the former would have been just fine to me.

But he went even beyond that, and that's where it became apparent that this was not just a domestic squabble. It might have started that way, but it wound up showing Satellite's true feelings about this community. And hey, he's entitled to his feelings, and unlike some others I think he's even entitled to say what he thinks, up to but not including shouting fire in a theater. smile.gif In fact, I'd much rather he were crystal clear about his opinions of this membership rather than holding it back. So kudos for that I guess.

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Work. School. Sleep. Trying to squeeze in some "us" time and trying not to piss her off in the mean time. I'm not jumping in on his side saying he's right or wrong, I'm simply saying that if your wife isn't here already and you're not working and going to school (and so is she) then you're probably posting things with a whole lot more emotion and a whole lot more time to type.

Also agreed. But again, I think you're reading Satellite's motivations all wrong. Perhaps he can clarify.

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Simply put, once you're Journey switches to "living the Dream" here in the States, you're going to give two-$#!Ts about how the people on VJ feel about you. Sure, it's nice and it's wonderful, but your reality is living under the same roof with you already, and she (and her happiness) takes priority over you stupid blat visa blat journey blat. (That was a direct quote, by the way.)

Also agree. In fact, if it ever becomes an issue in my marriage, you can expect an hasta la vista from me, post haste.

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Should Satellite get a free pass for calling people suckers? That's up to you. But if it were up to me, it'd roll right off my back as I did a little more reading on the history of the Mr. and Mrs. Satellite relationship. I know you're skin isn't as thick as mine and you're in a different situation, but try to view this from his situation, not yours!

This is actually good advice, and I think a lot of us really did give Satellite a free pass, even after the "sucker" comment. But it also raises a really good point that seanconneryii addressed in a previous post, and that is: if Satellite doesn't give a rats ### what anyone here thinks, why the occasionall forum drama that is seemingly designed to pull our emotional chords? Given recent events it really does seem like Satellite is toying with us. Maybe he could clarify this as well.

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And to close this thread down because of tensions it causes is like telling your wife to go home because the stress she causes.

I think the analogy fails, but hell if we want to keep the thread going I'm all for it as long as it continues to be useful discussion. Maybe I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing, although every one of Sat's posts continues to reinforce my perception. The moderators will almost always close a thread at the OP's request, so Satellite need only contact a moderator if he gets tired of us.

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All I'm saying by my posts here is simply this - I like VJ. I like all of you. I genuinely do have feelings for what is said and posted on here. However, my wife and I, and the problems or things that we do in our relationship is going to trump whatever feelings get hurt here on VJ. And when something happens in our "real life" together at home, I could give a d@mn what my "virtual buddies" think about me or her.

Can I get you a little nail polish with that Nancy? laughing.gif

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QUOTE (Blues Fairy @ Feb 24 2008, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Slim I think you also owe an apology to those Russians here whom you so easily generalized as arrogant and indifferent by definition.


So you're going to deny that Russians, by very definition, are arrogant and indifferent?

There is a difference between proud and arrogant. The vast majority of Russians I have met are proud. I've met only a few arrogant Russians (some of them *ahem* online). And Russian indifference is just body language. It's kind of the equivalent of the American tendency to "strike a pose" when you feel the need to look cool. Russians are insanely curious, they just don't want to look like they are. smile.gif

However, if you need proof of Russian compassion, I'll direct you to this video. It looks to be a BBC production, but pay attention to the Russian social workers.


Some thoughts if I might. Many of you are going through a stressful period of your life, I can empathize as my wife comes from Russia and I haven't been on the forum until our AOS was held up at the TSC. Thought I would come back to VJ to see what is going on with others in my predicament. At this time instead of spending your valuable time berating this fellow and his wife might I suggest that you start preparing for the time your loved one arrives, this country and people are so much different than Russia, and it is going to take some real effort and sacrifices on your part to assist your new spouse in adjusting. Try finding a Russian store in your neighborhood where they can shop for favorite goodies, if they bring children check into the schools and see what the children are going to be faced with language wise. My wife for example is going back to college (difference than in Russia a college is distinctly different than a university), and besides being blessed with excellent English she decide to enroll in a TOEFL class to sharpen her skills. Look to see if you have a Russian Orthodox or Ukranian Orthodox church nearby where your spouse can fellowship with native Russians or Russian speakers. Check out the Russian-American newspaper published in Norman Oklahoma they may give you some assitance in dealing with the problem, check with dish network or direct TV about satellite reception of Russian TV stations, (my wife loves this) be prepared for a long period of adjustment. As the Tiger suggests stop the insanity and get to discussing relevant things like guns, so if you were in a firefight would your preference be a SAW or M60? Don't bring these squabbles here. I have studied the posts of Satellite and he seems to be knowledgable of the law, well versed in immigration law, and folks the California bar is one tough cookie, support him and his Russian bride as best you can and look forward to the day when your Russian is here with you and all this with be forgotten, perhaps remembered with a smile because you know the most important thing is that lady with you. I came to this particular forum to seek common experiences with bringing a Russian spouse to the USA and think that should be your one and only focus. Keep up the good posts ignore the ones that are bothersome to you and you will be much better off supporting each other.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-02-25 13:04:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHelp with sending documents to Sochi
QUOTE (irish44 @ Mar 21 2008, 07:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Folks.. Happy Easter!

Since I have more than a month, I was going to send documents to Tanya USPS Global Express in Cyrillic.

I need a little help with translating into the format that Slim suggested in the post below please:

"RUSSIA/??????
682640 (or whatever your sweety's postal code in Russia is)
??????????? ???? (Name of Region/Krai/Oblast)
?????? - ?????????? ?? 24 ? 95 ?? (City/Oblast/Metro stop if applicable, Street, House #, Apt. #)
???????? ????? ? (Your sweety's name.... (in the dative case! Don't worry about that!))
(07) 4214-238-436 (Your sweety's mobile or home phone number. Maybe most important!)"

I believe Sochi is in Krasnodar Krai
Her fullname is Tatiana V. Rebenok
Her address is: 5 "B" Titov St. Apt. 9

Thanks again!


I wrote the name and address in both English and Russian and it worked fine. Do not be misled by the postal service and how quickly your package should arrive. I would spend the extra money on DSL or Fed Ex and transmit documents via them, especially documents that are important or may be necessary for interview or other purposes. Over 4 years of sending and receiving packages to and from Russia we have found out that US packages via the postal services are notoriously slow, yet the packages sent from Russia arrive fairly quickly. If the postal service is bad in Sochi, your fiancee may have a wait or make many trips to the post office to get the package you sent. Moreover, in Sochi international packages may not be picked up at the local post office, but at a special post office designated for packages of that nature, which is what happens in my wife's hometown. Don't experience the grief we have had over slow packages from the states, go with a courier service. And if you try to track a USPS package, it only works through US borders, not very well overseas. The courier services on the other hand should be able to tell you where the package is at any given time. Might drop a line to Bobalouie I think his fiancee is from Sochi also.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-03-21 16:16:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusPlaces to stay in Moscow for interview
QUOTE (dallasguy7 @ Mar 28 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I too used Moscow Rick for several services and I would recommend him highly.


I have used him also, and my wife had no complaints about the accomodations.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-03-28 20:37:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusWhat I Do NOT Miss about Russia
QUOTE (shikarnov @ Apr 2 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would raise high holy hell. Unfortunately, beyond that I have little constructive to say. But I can certainly empathize with your frustration, as I've felt similarly many times during the past 2-3 years...

Maybe call the embassy and request instructions? I'm not sure what else you can do...

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I would not only call the embassy, I would send them an e-mail aand a snail mail letter detailing what occurred. Best of luck.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-02 15:14:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusAnonther Moscow Approval
QUOTE (Bobalouie @ Apr 2 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, we got our approval last night. kicking.gif She was in and out in about 2 hours 40 minutes. She said everyone was pretty friendly, and she said that there were two women consuls who were conducting the interviews. She said the woman consul who did her interview smiled all the time when looking over our documents and that it made her (my fiancee) nervous. We spoke only briefly after the interview, so I will post more details later today once I have had a chance to talk with her some more.


Congratulations! now another Russian woman on the OKC scene, much needed to add balance to our lives. When is your fiancee arriving or approximate date? Been so long I forgot the remainder of the process. We need to get together soon.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-02 12:18:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusInaccurate passport name translation
QUOTE (seanconneryii @ Apr 10 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure this has been discussed before but let me ask again anyway. My wife got new Russian passports (both Russian and international) to have her married name shown. The translation to English is not accurate and the local passport authorities don't care so long as the name is correct in Russian. The Russian passport office's English translation software stinks and often makes errors.

My wife contacted the US Embassy about this and they said it happens all the time and will not be a problem for her visa. I also emailed the embassy and got the same reply.

Here's the ultimate problem: When my wife arrives in the US and starts to apply for an SSN and driver's license, etc. her name will not be correct and she will be stuck using a bogus name.

I have heard you can apply to the Moscow passport office and request a correction but this will take too much time and in fact a copy of her passport is already in the hands of the NVC so now is not the time to mess with changes.

So...how can we fix this problem in the USA? Maybe working through the Russian Embassy in DC? Any advice will be appreciated.


We used the marriage license and my wife spelled her correct name for them. In addition, it will be important that the the document (fiancee visa docs) she travels on have the correct spelling. I would suggest if she drives, a driver's license first then SSN, but order doesn't matter, be prepared for a long wait at SS if your experience is anything like ours.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-10 14:30:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussian computer for USA?
QUOTE (seanconneryii @ Mar 27 2008, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My wife asked me if she should bring her laptop computer when she comes to the USA. All I know is it's a lower end Russian HP version computer. I think it's fairly new but not sure. She really does not know much about computers and relies on her son to help her with email, etc. In fact, she has a desktop computer that she has some knowledge about but little about the laptop.

And, of course, the manuals are in Russian so i won't be able to read up on it and I'm a Mac guy, so I know nothing about PCs anyway. I'm "Windows illiterate."

I have a Macintosh desktop computer, so having a laptop could be useful I suppose, like watching movies on a trip or whatever...but I wonder about it's value if it's set-up for Russians to use.

I tend to think it's not worth the trouble. What do you guys think? Is it worth her lugging the extra weight from Russia to get this laptop to the USA?


I sent my wife an old IBM thinkpad to Russia with a converter for the electrical connection. needless to say, the computer should have stayed there as I bought a much better one here. Also, you will need a power converter, and they are not very good for the electrical needs of a PC whether here or in Russia (not cheap either). Our home PC has both languages on it and my wife glued litle tabs on the keys to reflect which Russian character is beneath the English keys. Seems to be working fine. We acquired a dell laptop with state employee discount and with a wireless modem she can use the laptop anywhere in the house. Myself, I would advise not to lug the laptop over here and use the weight to carry something your wife believes she will need here or has some sentimental value.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-03-28 00:20:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusWhy men are happier (written by a man, of course.)
QUOTE (eekee @ Apr 21 2008, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was raised Orthodox but I don't follow it anymore... but the Orthodox ceremony is so pretty I might have one anyway.

QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Apr 21 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We were married in a civil ceremony and then did formal vows in Russian church, with the crowns candles everything. My wife brought her wedding dress with her and with the cat, she was bogged down. Met both in Atlanta when they arrived, she was wasted. Dress is beautiful and when I work on the central unit in her closet, it gives me some very fond memories. Most money I spent was on the gift to the priest, choir, and cakes, maybe $350 tops. Got married in a bar the first time, that was after convincing my ex-wife that the cigar band on her finger was a wedding band and the maitre de at the restaurant she got drunk in was a licensed minister and so she was now married. Had to formalize it later in a bar
with a very uncomfortable preacher, considering the surroundings he delivered a sermon along with the eulogy, oops wedding. When we went the Russian route the priest gave me a 30+ page document that he was going to follow. The guy holding my crown had to sit with the crown in hands. Eastern Orthodox bride and groom wear the crowns during the ceremony. Needless to say lots of standing while the ritual is being performed, but good experience though, and the priest is a gem.



It would be something to remember, and with photos that much more special. My biggest gripe was I gave my family and few friends a disposable camera to take pics with, and my not camera shy nephews attempted to get in every shot much to the disgust of my wife. I think there may be two or three photos with us by ourselves. But all in all a wonderful event to experience either with shaking knees in front of the priest (hint: don't wear your cowboy boots during the ceremony did it both times not so bad with the maitre d but the preacher and priest ,woo I was swaying!) or in the audience watching the new fish get netted.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-21 16:40:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusWhy men are happier (written by a man, of course.)
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QUOTE (Kazan @ Apr 21 2008, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
good.gif I 100% agree! I am amazed at how many thousands upon thousands some people will dish out. I have never understood why. I am so happy Alla & I agree it is a big waste of money. While we have no definite plan, I can guarantee it will be simple and frugal with only a few close family members and a few friends sharing the day.
QUOTE (slim @ Apr 21 2008, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Weddings have to be, by far, the most over-rated tradition in modern day life.

It baffles me how there are still girls who grow up imagining a wedding to Prince Charming, knowing what they're going to wear, what he's going to wear, who they're going to invite, what the colors will be, where they'll go after, etc., etc., etc.

A funny show to watch (if you get suckered into watching Lifetime or WE with the wife) is Bridezillas. It's amazing how serious these women take their weddings. Bunch of crazy.......


I also agree about weddings. They've become more theater than scared ceremony. So much money and energy and waste. And people stand up and take sacred vows that they often later comfortably retract, not in a church, but in a court room or lawyers office.

I like traditions but weddings have morphed into a show for the parents and a cash cow for the wedding trade...not unlike the burial business...exploiting emotions and pressing people not to be "cheap" on such a special occasion.

We were married in a civil ceremony and then did formal vows in Russian church, with the crowns candles everything. My wife brought her wedding dress with her and with the cat, she was bogged down. Met both in Atlanta when they arrived, she was wasted. Dress is beautiful and when I work on the central unit in her closet, it gives me some very fond memories. Most money I spent was on the gift to the priest, choir, and cakes, maybe $350 tops. Got married in a bar the first time, that was after convincing my ex-wife that the cigar band on her finger was a wedding band and the maitre de at the restaurant she got drunk in was a licensed minister and so she was now married. Had to formalize it later in a bar
with a very uncomfortable preacher, considering the surroundings he delivered a sermon along with the eulogy, oops wedding. When we went the Russian route the priest gave me a 30+ page document that he was going to follow. The guy holding my crown had to sit with the crown in hands. Eastern Orthodox bride and groom wear the crowns during the ceremony. Needless to say lots of standing while the ritual is being performed, but good experience though, and the priest is a gem.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-21 15:44:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMom Got Tourist Visa (2nd Attempt)
QUOTE (October filer @ Apr 23 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi folks,

I am happy to report that my mom received a visa. They only asked one question--whether she has ever been abroad. She answered "no" and explained there was no need for it, and they granted her a two-year visa. I am ecstatic! This is her second attempt, and as you remember, I had a Senator write an email. She also mentioned that in general, it felts like just about anybody who applied got visas. Go Moscow Embassy! (The previous attempt was through Yekatirenburg, so I am not very happy with them.)


Yikes and my wife's parents were thinking of a tourist visa from Ekaterinburg. Will suggest they do it via Moscow. Any other info about E-Burg you can pass on would be helpful. I did hear a story how a USA consulate employee in E-Burg was in an area frequented by shady ladies and got rolled, I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Congrats on the visa!
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-23 17:41:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (Kazan @ May 2 2008, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laughing.gif I made the mistake of handing a bag to Alla once. The look in her eyes was, well... indescribable. "Jeffery! I look like horse to you?" I replied, and I do? I then began to make my best horse impression on the streets of Kazan'. Let's say it did not go over well with her. I was definitely far more amused. laughing.gif

QUOTE (slim @ May 2 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's liven this thread up again.....

I expect my wife to help me carry the bags. Moreover, since I'm the one paying for the groceries, she should carry all of them.



Yeah other Jeff I try that too and my attempts are met with a quizzical look like "So this is American humor"? And I am reminded that our brand of humor is much different than in Russia, so be prepared when you try to explain an American joke or try to act out a scene, to say it falls flat is an understatement.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-02 14:52:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Apr 28 2008, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that beautiful Hind helicopter.


uh... are you sure it was a Hind? I've never heard beauty and Hind being used in the same sentence.

QUOTE (dxt7339 @ Apr 28 2008, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She also says that here in the USA there is not a salon anywhere like in Russia that can do a real facial.


My wife also told me that without using chemicals to burn the outer layer of skin off the face (which will grow back after a week or so with fresh, new, beautiful skin.... #######?) a true facial can never be had. She's checked around, and no one, thus far, will do that treatment. She said we'll have to return to Russia to get that done.

I'll be dammmed if my $70 face cream and those countless hours I've spent sitting in that uncomfortable chair at the fragrance counter while she gets all that stuff done at the mall goes to waste. There's no way I'm letting them burn all that off. My hard work, blood, sweat and tears have gone into that face. She's keeping the skin she's in.



Can't respond on the face cream, my wife buys Yves Rocher stuff but is slowly gravitating to American cosmetics. The Hind? Well it did have an Akula painted on the front of it so not only fierce looking (think Spitfire in WWII) but a thing of beauty too! It tore up after 3 games of handball (yes it was washed in between and it was of a heavier fabric than the t-shirts sold at the airport) But those airport t-shirts, man they look awfully funny on me and my not so slim torso sticking out below the bottom of the shirt. (belly button exposure is only good for young women not over the hill men).
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-28 13:20:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (Kazan @ Apr 28 2008, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's true, Eekee! All you have to do is be careful. Feel the fabric and have a good look and you can tell the quality. I got some very nice bargains on some sweaters and shoes. I miss going to the street market. It was always a great hunt for something decent and at even more decent price.
QUOTE (eekee @ Apr 28 2008, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of the clothes I bought in Russia are just as nice as the ones I bought in the US, and the same brands as I normally buy in the USA. You just need to know what to buy.

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QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Apr 28 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.
Russian t-shirts are amazing!


Yes, if you buy them in Moscow a large shrinks to a small, and the heavier t-shirts with that beautiful Hind helicopter on it rips. Yes they are amazing, amazingly cheap! Now what is really amazing are its churches. You have to go a long ways to find as ornately decorated places of worship. And Red Square is amazing. And the women, beyond compare, or if you want, amazing.



Yes other Jeff and Eekee, however if they are pre-wrapped in cellophane well you don't get to do much touching. Never again will I buy t-shirts at the airport! Sent my wife a lot of clothes I bought here, she seemed to like them. didn't buy much except for "been there done that" t-shirts in Russia.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-28 13:15:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (charlesandnessa @ Apr 28 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.
Russian t-shirts are amazing!


Yes, if you buy them in Moscow a large shrinks to a small, and the heavier t-shirts with that beautiful Hind helicopter on it rips. Yes they are amazing, amazingly cheap! Now what is really amazing are its churches. You have to go a long ways to find as ornately decorated places of worship. And Red Square is amazing. And the women, beyond compare, or if you want, amazing.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-28 08:31:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (slim @ Apr 18 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

Amen brother, amen. Been there...a peak experience.

Want to really get a military hardware high...sit in and fire a Quad-Fifty.
Isn't that an anti-aircraft gun similar to a ZSU? I suspect you can lay a hell of a field of fire with quad fiftys on infantry. Can you imagine a sapper running the gauntlet when faced with something like 50s zinging around? Saw a Barrett at a recent gun show. Had a friend with one who was an ex-seal, never did get to pop one off. If memory serves me correctly it is single shot but I could be mistaken. Heavy sucker though. Did you see any fuel-air bombs used in Nam? I heard that they were especially effective for clearing LZs, but came late in the war.

The Quad 50 is kind of like what we used to call pom-pom guns...only I think there were only 2 guns not 4. I think they were like 20 millimeter shells. The Q50 was used for base defense most...yes to ward off sapper attacks. I never heard of fuel-air bombs unless you're talking about what we called Foo Gas mines we used to put around the perimeter. Kind of like napalm in a small barrel.


No, I remember fuel air bombs as being a mixture of atomized nape or gasoline that is igntied with a terrrible whomp, maybe I am just dreaming or in my old age forgot. Interesting about the quads used as ground suppression you would have to have a big pair to advance in the face of those babies kicking mud and buffalo dung in your face. I think I would have been cowering, don't thing I would have made a good VC, too claustrophobic for tunnels, and wouldn't want to get a hole in my chest the size of my fist because some zampolit was urging us forward. When the M-16 was first introduced in VN in the early 60's as the stoner system they were supposedly a fierce weapon and a lot lighter to hump than a M-14, and the weight of ammo, yikes. The VC called them black death sticks, and a .223 bulet that hit a branch or leaf had a tendency to tumble. Heard of wounds with a M-16 that literally took a guy's arm off because the bullet tumbled. Also heard Uncle Sam later changed the powder in the cartridges from IMR to something else that burned a little hotter, ergo increased the rate of fire up to 600+ rds. minute. Side effect, it burned dirty and fouled the gas port, causing troops to try to dislodge jams with their cleaning kit. Much disgust and some folks started carrying AKs. Don't know the truth of it, but heard rumors of folks being overrun and the burial detail finding M-16s strewn around with cleaning rods stuck in them.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-20 20:21:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (slim @ Apr 18 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

Amen brother, amen. Been there...a peak experience.

Want to really get a military hardware high...sit in and fire a Quad-Fifty.
Isn't that an anti-aircraft gun similar to a ZSU? I suspect you can lay a hell of a field of fire with quad fiftys on infantry. Can you imagine a sapper running the gauntlet when faced with something like 50s zinging around? Saw a Barrett at a recent gun show. Had a friend with one who was an ex-seal, never did get to pop one off. If memory serves me correctly it is single shot but I could be mistaken. Heavy sucker though. Did you see any fuel-air bombs used in Nam? I heard that they were especially effective for clearing LZs, but came late in the war.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-19 19:04:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (slim @ Apr 15 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My dad just bought a new hand cannon from Bass Pro yesterday and they let him walk out with it. Gun box in one hand, ammo box in the other. He said they did call the FBI and got instant approval (he always did have better credit than me!) so I guess my five day wait was just a fluke.

I took my wife shooting (well, I went shooting and she was there) and it was a rather cold day. She stood there for about two minutes, fired off approximately ONE shot, then complained about the gun (Marlin-60 .22LR) being too heavy and the weather being too cold. That's been the extent of our shooting so far. So, if you're going to take your wife shooting, make sure it's a nice day.

She's been telling me for the longest time that the shotgun I keep under our bed is bad Feng Shui and I should move it. I tell her it's the best Feng Shui we have in our whole house and it'll move only after she learns to shoot it well enough to keep it farther away. I'm not concerned for her safety in our house, but knowing it's there, I'm pretty sure she'd make an unwelcome guest feel very unwelcome.


I am going to see if I have an old RG single action 22 around for her to plink with. If not, would like to get that old Ruger single action with the convertible cylinders, 22 & 22 mag. If you have never had a 10-22 before you are going to like it. Did you get walnut or brich stock? Doesn't make it shoot any better but those walnut stocks lookk good. Used to collect steyr rifles unusual, but with double set triggers excellent sear. I used to use an old 22 rem. bolt action for popping squirrels in my backyard (they were eating all my pecans and depriving me of peecan pie ingredients), right here in the middle of town using shorts. Never a complaint from the neighbors. Used to have a Mark II bull barrel with a Ciener hush puppy on it, but it was stolen. Very quiet, would use rat shot in it to remove pigeons but it didn't cycle very well. Great for in town use, local police that patrolled our neighborhood would come over and pop a few rounds with it. Also have a few toys left from my Class III days, mostly rust collectors now. Had a chance to get a m-60 cheap should have, but opted for antique class III stuff. Mistake. Wanted a Beretta 9 with 3 shot burst but it was expensive back in 82' cost $1,250. Oh well life is full of regrets. Will see if Mama wants to shoot any of my old fun stuff, take a photo for her dad perhaps in a military pose.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-15 21:30:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Apr 12 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well we did have a bull hauler overturn on a freeway onramp this afternoon. It was funny watching the Sheriff's dept. bring in their horses, saddle up, and lasso those dogies. Then of course, this is the environment that we are bringing our
Russian women to, not only Bob and I but others before us and hopefully many afterwards.


That actually would be quite nice. Last time we had some cattle on the freeway it was about a 5 1/2 hour clean-up. I guess they don't like the idea of having 1200lb beasts running across the road where 2400lb cars are travelling 70mph. It would be quite funny to see the Sheriff's dept. out there on horseback working the lassos... I don't even think they have horses. And don't get me started on the city's horses.... "Don't touch my horse again or I'll put you in jail!"

QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Apr 12 2008, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And for Slim the pie is great, home made with native grown peaches, lemon meringue to die for, and the huckleberry pie, well you would never leave Oklahoma without sampling it and going to the machine gun shoot down in SE Oklahoma. I took my wife to a gun show last weekend and she was horrified. I explained that purchases from a dealer take 5 days now (not like the good old days where I could walk my gun to the next table and buy some ammo and load up once I hit the parking lot) but there were many folks there that were not selling under a dealer's license, and it is my understanding it is delivery on purchase. She was truly frightened about the way people in the US can get guns, not mentioning the flea market and swap meets and classifieds in the paper.


I bought a 10/22 from Bass Pro a few weeks back and didn't get it for 5 days. I was supposed to be able to take it home with me but they said the FBI/ATF name check sometimes gets delayed and I'd have to wait until they called back. What a bummer. They said it wasn't because of a waiting period or anything like that, just had to get approval on my name check. Last I knew a 4473 didn't require a name check, but it's been quite a while since I bought a gun at the store, so maybe they do now. Patriot Act and all... wouldn't surprise me one bit. I know we stopped trusting our citizens a long time ago but I didn't realize buying a .22 semi-auto rifle was going to lop me into the same bin as those buying Tec-9s and AK knockoffs. And not that the people buying those legally use them in a lot of crimes.

I'm just going to stop typing because I could type all day about this topic. Your wife was scared about how easily we can get guns and I'm scared how easily people willingly give up their rights to have them. Arrghh! Done for now.


Yeah I've got guns all over the house but the only one I have loaded up is a 12 gauge winchester defender for home invaders. My wife advised me that in Russia you can only get a sporting firearm (read rifle shotgun) after a police background check and an interview with a psychologist. I have seen folks at the gun shows that wouldn't be given a gun by a psychologist if there were a 100 raving gun toting maniacs across the street firing at them. I did find an interesting casing while wandering in the taiga in Russia, all aluminum thought it was a shotgun hull, and a friend checked out for me , it was a pistol designed to fire rubber bullets, but the casing looks about the size of a 20 gauge. Wouldn't want to fire that with my skinny ole wrists. Well count me in with the gun huggers and barrel suckers (an old Marine friend of mine coined that one on me). Don't hunt anymore Mama couldn't stand it if little Bambi was a trophy in the freezer, so my guns just sit around and rust away. But she does want me to take her out to shoot (and her being a lieutenant in the Russian army) thought I would start her out with a single action 22 revolver, not much kick, safe, and graduate her up to a 357 with 38 loads or a 9.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-14 16:32:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (seanconneryii @ Apr 12 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Russian forum is truly unique...a thread about amazing Russian women morphs into an in depth discussion about driving the roads of Oklahoma including farmers in pick-ups.

Anybody crossed any difficult bridges lately? Maybe encountered a traffic intersection worth an honorable mention? How about an Overpass? Cloverleaf? Railroad crossing?


Well we did have a bull hauler overturn on a freeway onramp this afternoon. It was funny watching the Sheriff's dept. bring in their horses, saddle up, and lasso those dogies. Then of course, this is the environment that we are bringing our Russian women to, not only Bob and I but others before us and hopefully many afterwards. And for Slim the pie is great, home made with native grown peaches, lemon meringue to die for, and the huckleberry pie, well you would never leave Oklahoma without sampling it and going to the machine gun shoot down in SE Oklahoma. I took my wife to a gun show last weekend and she was horrified. I explained that purchases from a dealer take 5 days now (not like the good old days where I could walk my gun to the next table and buy some ammo and load up once I hit the parking lot) but there were many folks there that were not selling under a dealer's license, and it is my understanding it is delivery on purchase. She was truly frightened about the way people in the US can get guns, not mentioning the flea market and swap meets and classifieds in the paper.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-12 13:26:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (eekee @ Apr 11 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If housing is so cheap, why aren't more people insured drivers?

QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Apr 11 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!



I would venture to say that the people that own homes are insured, and those that don't are looking to them for an "accident". Some apartment dwellers (a) don't drive and go shanksmare; (cool.gif don't own cars © do own cars that breakdown frequently; (d) do own cars that they buy monthly insurance premiums for; (e) don't have insurance. Also, Oklahoma does not have mandatory vehicle safety inspection which amazes my wife as Russia does (first aid kit and fire extinguisher) I have seen Russian roads that make Oklahoma's look like the streets of Heaven, my wife constantly lauds our Oklahoma roads which is very humorous to me as I think they suck compared to adjacent states. Lifting a Minnesota joke, there are only two seasons in Russia, winter and road repair with which my wife heartily agrees.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-11 17:21:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
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QUOTE (CarolynRitesh @ Apr 9 2008, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow Bobalouie, tell me more!! I would never have thought of Oklahoma City as a place to be, but one of the job possibilities for Ritesh is in Oklahoma City, and that housing market alone is appealing! (Plus, it is a centralized jumping off point from which to explore the US!)


I lived in OKC for five years. Five miserable years. The drivers in that city are the worst I have ever had to deal with. I thought for a while it might just be me but my son (born in OKC) had to drive up from TX to OKC and then on to TN. When he got back, he swore he would NEVER drive to/through Oklahoma-in particular, OKC- again.
I don't care how cheap it is to live somewhere, if you are scared/angry every time you get out of your car--IT AIN'T WORTH IT!!!
Texas is slipping too. But you will still come up on a REAL Texan, who will pull onto the shoulder to let you pass. That is good/compassionate driving!


Joe, my wife learned to drive in OKC and we always are amazed at the dumb things people do. I have lived here for 32 years and am probably used to it, but if you ever want to drive in a bad driver city try New Orleans. I lived there for a year and in New Orleans you have to abide by the 10 second rule in order to avoid an accident, you have to wait ten seconds before you proceed on a green light to avoid the red light runners. As to OKC bad drivers, they are actually very good drivers, they are just avoiding all the potholes in the roads and the other person's car be damned, or their car needs repair and your nice car looks like it might be insured (1 in 4 in Oklahoma aren't so you have to choose your "victim" carefully)!
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-11 10:46:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (Bobalouie @ Apr 8 2008, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE (Bobalouie @ Apr 7 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you move from Oklahoma City OK to San Francisco CA...

Groceries will cost: 62.541% more
Housing will cost: 240.567% more
Utilities will cost: 5.584% less
Transportation will cost: 18.769% more
Healthcare will cost: 26.918% more
Let's not forget Oklahoma is in the middle of nowhere.
In California you are a few hours drive from the ski resorts (mountains, snow), ocean, Disneyland, and most importantly an incredibly temperate climate with few extremes. And you can't beat the fresh fruits and vegetables grown right here in our backyards. I'll have to agree with Mox, no other place I'd rather live than in California.
And if you like the slow life and low prices, the central valley is the place to be. Housing can be had for $200,000.

Thanks for dissing my home state sat, thats very nice of you. I went out of my way to not dis california, but I guess your just an A$$ today. Oh, wait, how is today different from any other day?

Lets not foget that Oklahoma is in the middle. 2 hour flight to all 3 coasts and the same to the Rocky mountains. The only thing that really sucks is the unpredictable and often extremely severe weather. To each his own I guess Sat, and I am happy you enjoy california.


Bob, you forgot to say that is a short drive to Santa Fe (now mostly inhabited by Yankees and Californios who wanted some of the SW experience, more out of staters living in Santa Fe than natives who can't aford the housing with the price increases caused by the immigrants) or a short drive to Galveston with great drive on beaches and low density. I turned down a job in LA that was more than double my salary with much discussion with my wife when we price compared all the differences and the driving difficulties (my wife loves to drive). So we stay in Oklahoma where costs are less, but we are both looking to move to Houston, warmer weather, less tornadic activity, big Russian community, and 60 miles to Galveston. If your woman loves you and not a fanciful dream of the country with streets paved of gold, she will endure the differences and together you can make a pleasurable life here. We are a mobile society so its not to say we can move elsewhere. And yeah Oklahoma is not the cultural center of the universe but we do have a Van Cliburn silver medalist here who is an artist in residence from Russia, who is a wonderful pianist and he stays here for some reason, giving us occasional memorable piano performances, I haven't heard from the left or right coast whether they have some one like this to give cultural enrichment to our ladies and ourselves.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-08 09:54:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusRussia girls are amazing!
QUOTE (seanconneryii @ Apr 2 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I am a card carrying member of the "I Love Russian Women Club." But I'd temper that by saying I've met some very unpleasant RW as well. You can't just walk up to the Russian "woman tree' and pick one at random and walk away a happy man.

When I first decided to look to the former Soviet Union for a wife, I held the same strict criterion many rookie American men do (beyond the obvious age range criteria): must speak good English; no kids under 24 years old, and must live in Moscow or St. Petersburg or similar big city.

From the few ladies I found within this group of prospective wives, I was unable to really connect with and/or had problems with them. A good grasp of English brings good and bad effects (elitist attitude maybe) and limits communication of the non verbal type that women with little or no English must bring to bear in order to have a relationship with you. You can tell a lot about someone who's willing to take a big risk and meet you knowing only very little English.

Having no kids may indicate selfishness or difficulty with close relationships and their personalities may lack the nurturing and care-giving qualities that being a mother can develop in someone. Of course, I speaking of women beyond the reasonable child bearing years (say after 38 or so).

And some big city girls have very high expectations of wealth and a super exciting life in America....maybe the kind of woman you can never fully please regarding money and material things. And persuading them to give up there life and job in Moscow is a tougher sell than if we're talking about leaving a smaller Siberia area.

After several attempts to find a woman meeting my original criteria in only the big cities of he FSU, I gave up. I had to go deeper into Russia to find my special woman. And, importantly, I had to rethink my criterion for a wife. My wife spoke almost no English when I first met her. At that time her son was only 16. And she lives in Siberia many hours from Moscow or SPB. For me, the key was to find a woman totally ready to give up her Russian life and connections in order to be with me...and I found her where many American men would not travel to.

So when an American man asks me about finding a Russian bride, I recommend avoiding the "low apples on the Russian woman tree," and take the risk and accept the hardship of the longer journey into places like Siberia. They may well get lucky with the big city women, but I think there's something special about the Russian "village girls" that seem so perfect as a wife and life partner. They have a sort of innocence and unspoiled virtue and positive attitude that I had given up hoping to find.

For my brother comrades who found their perfect wife in the big cities...good show! You saved yourself a lot of struggle and grief not going into the hinder lands. And there are always the elements of good timing and good luck and good chemistry that defies any social or demographic variables. Or maybe you're very rich and live in LA or NYC. smile.gif Whatever the case, I'm not knocking your road to success...just sharing my viewpoints based on my experiences...and suggesting an alternative plan.


Each of us had our own personal reasons for seeking a woman from abroad, mine my ancestors came from Russia, and I still have Russian relatives living in Siberia (Omsk) that were shipped there from the Volga region after WWII started. So I have always had a built in fascination about the country one side of my family came from. In communicating with my future wife I found she had a tremendous work ethic, was a professional woman (one of my few criteria) and spoke good English (not a criteria but non-english speaker not a barrier either). My wife is from a fairly large city and hates living in the Midwest biblebelt. But that aside, she has a backyard to grow flowers, much warmer weather and an affinity for adopting stray cats. I don't think any of us can generalize about Russian women, each has their own endearing and not so endearing qualities. But I am constantly amazed with the amount of effort my wife puts into every task she undertakes, and cleanliness, above and beyond belief! Always smartly dressed whether to go to walmart or out to eat, fellows, if your bride is not here yet, you are in for some interesting times, and some personal adjustments. Sweatpants are okay around the house, but don't venture out with her in your warmups when she has a dress on! I would have ventured to Siberia to seek the perfect woman, but as luck turned out, it was not necessary. Did communicate with some very Eastern Russian women, and didn't have too many bad experiences in general, well there was that one gal that wanted to know if we could afford enrolling our children in private school, and would it be possible for us to have champagne in bed every morning? There is a large population of Russians here in the US, a Russian-American paper is published here in Oklahoma and the publishers have provided me some startling info such as one of every ten dollars spent in New York City is by a Russian, the Russian population in the greater LA area is in excess of 1,000,000, there are 130,000 Russians living in the greater Houston area. The Russians aren't coming they are already here, just need to find where, so our wives won't feel too lonely.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-03 12:58:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow do I know
QUOTE (MnMike @ May 12 2008, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been contacted by a Russian lady, who sent me a email via Match.com Okay, so I sort of believe her, but mostly not. I would like to determine her authenticity but I haven't a clue how to do so. But I have this website so here I am desperate for some guidance. helpsmilie.gif As you might expect, she's quite atttractive, which is my first clue she's not for real. But other then that, she has shown me pictures of her parents, uncle and ex boyfriend. I was trying to push the your, full of #######, button but that didn't seem to work. You folks seen this picture before and where can I check out this scammer?? Here is a photo of said unknown Russian lady.

Mike


Check Elena's Models on the internet. She publishes a blacklist of Russian scamers that is 160 pages long. And incidentally, she has some lovely ladies that post on her site.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-12 13:29:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHas anybody seen
QUOTE (slim @ May 15 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious... what does make for a good lawyer?


One of the principle constituents of a lawyer is dropped from a cow, the consistency of which is determined whether they are on grass or grain. Posted by a practicing lawyer of 20+ years. If you take yourself to seriously others won't!
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-16 08:01:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusBringing an animal overseas
QUOTE (BTalley @ May 21 2008, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When my fiancee comes to Florida she will be bringing a medium-sized dog. She's very nervous, as this dog gets scared easily. She is concerned he will have a heart attack on the flight.

Has anyone on here brought an animal into the United States? If so, what are the best airlines? Anything we need to know or avoid to reduce the possibility of something going wrong?


Yikes a dog! My wife brought her cat from Russia, no problems. I suspect Eeekee is irhgt the poor dog critter is going to the cargo hold. My wife's cat came in the cabin and slept on her lap the whole way, but came in a pet carrier to satisfy airline rules. I think she flew Delta from Moscow, they are usually good with pets. Make sure the dog has an international health certificate, and you might want to check the USDA website about bringing pets into the US. Don't go through Great Britain as I have heard horror stories of pet quarantine, don't know if that applied to pets in transit. Northwest and I am sure their partner Lufthansa should be good with pets. We have flown within the states with Northwest with no problems, again with cat in cabin in a carrier. Don't know about dogs in the cargo hold though. Go through some old posts here where others have asked the same or similiar questions should be helpful.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-21 16:45:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMy closing comments
QUOTE (slim @ May 21 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow!

I like to think of that particular spot as the "throne" of my castle. If the new cover interfered in any way, it would be outta there.

I know the importance of that cover. It's almost a life and death issue and a major source of grief if messed with. My wife was about to start holding it had her cover not arrived. And thankfully now, we have two, so even on laundry days it's not an issue.

Once again, this is a case of something being cold that will "make sick" anyone coming in contact with it. How getting your rump and thighs cold makes you sick I'll never know.....


I'm usually good at doing my contemplation at work. On the brief chance of doing it at home, the towel remains. I don't think my wife has found seat covers yet. And yeah my wife plays on the cold making you sick, I like a fan in the summer, no wind, bad for health, no cold bad ofr health, but the AC goes on when it gets a little hot outside. During the winter I'm running around the house in shorts and a t-shirt, she has a sweater and long pants on, go figure. Well, nobody said it would be easy. And the meds from Russia a complete necessity. If the cat gets sick go online to the Moscow vet. Chocolates not good from here need that fix from Russia, bought some in a Russian store, they turned out to be clever counterfeits. I can see bootleg CDs, clothes etc. but chocolate?
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-21 16:38:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMy closing comments
QUOTE (peejay @ May 21 2008, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (groovlstk @ May 20 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jsouthwick @ May 20 2008, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Although my wife has met a few Russian women that will not, absolutely not return to Russia for any reason, even to visit family members. This she atributes to their total embracement of American attitudes, chasing the almighty buck and striving to get ahead. Who knows.


Strangely enough, before I met my wife I dated a lot of Russian women living in the US. Many arrived here on K1s and divorced, and were extremely bitter about Americans and American life in general. If I was a safe enough distance away I'd always follow up by asking, "if you aren't happy here, why don't you return home?" I never got a straight answer.

Dealing w/the USCIS and logistics of all this is cake compared with the actual marriage part. The accounts of others, particularly during the adjustment period, are ultimately more valuable than anything else you read here.

Yeah...I've seen this attitude in some of my wife's Russian friends and aquaintances here in the USA. What is my take on it? Some of these women are miserable and bitter people in general. They will continue to be bitter and unhappy no matter where they live. When they dropped in on the USA they just took the show on the road. Or as I'm fond of saying..."same ol' sh*t, different toilet."


Yeah, my toilet got taken away from me with the now toilet cover and everything, made it impossible to lift the lid, so I had a pee cup in what used to be "My" toilet.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-21 10:15:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMy closing comments
QUOTE (slim @ May 20 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think people often times lose sight of the fact that those we're "debating" here on VJ are people we've never met and don't even know. It's almost as if they're fictional.

Another thing that shouldn't be forgotten is once you're past the "how do I send in the I-130" line of questioning or other "official business" here, you're into the "entertainment" portion of posting and you're on here more for your own enjoyment (or time wasting) than anything.

Since there are real people on the other side of all those "tubes and wires" you do get some nice responses and it is fun and thought-provoking. However, when it gets to the point of causing stress..... it's time to bust out that playstation.

Yeah I joined a long time ago and when my wife got here and we got her 2 year green card I dropped off the radar until we ran the 10 year green card thing. Now with N-400 filed it seems that everything is on cruise control. As you go through the process you rely on VJ posts less, and I agree it does become a source of dubious entertainment. However, once in a while you will run across pearls of wisdom or can offer some assistance to someone else new to the process or give some advice what to expect when their Russian soon to be spouse arrives. I would dare say that anyone who is now married to our Russian spouses (Notice Eeekee I say spouse although most of us are bringing brides, only in deference to you!) will agree that it was one hell of an adjustment for both, and we see some personality traits that weren't apparent previously. Well I saw that in my first marriage and shouldn't have been surprised but I was. I attribute it to the cultural changes and shock that America is really not a country paved with streets of gold, and the homesickness effect. Although my wife has met a few Russian women that will not, absolutely not return to Russia for any reason, even to visit family members. This she atributes to their total embracement of American attitudes, chasing the almighty buck and striving to get ahead. Who knows.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-20 09:02:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMy closing comments
Well it is too bad you are bidding us adieu as your comments were always good for some interesting responses. I am sure there are those who will say good riddance, but I for one will miss all the trash talk between yourself and the other posters, irritating sometimes, but as long as they weren't directed to yours truly, not a problem. Best of luck and God Bless on your future life and soon to be reunification with your wife, may your life be uncomplicated. No beard, no look-alike just an older than dirt Okie.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-19 13:28:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusUS Citizenship
QUOTE (Satellite @ May 27 2008, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Best reasons are:
1. Right to vote
2. Never deal with USCIS again. Must file for I-90 green card renewal every 10 years.
3. Travel limited to just 1 year at a time and must seek I-131 for another year.
4. Always must maintain permanent residence in the US or you abandon your residency (green card). Regardless of time abroad.
5. Any serious crime (drugs especially), even if you were "framed" you are subject to deportation.
6. Jobs with FBI, CIA, and sometimes as police officers and public school teachers K-12.
7. Russian passports open few doors without visas. Big hassle in my opinion.


My wife filed N-400 2 weeks after receiving 10 year green card. At first it wasn't a consideration, now #7 above is very meaningful to her. She understands no matter what any other country does, she is still a citizen of Russia. All the other listed items suggest a good reason for paying the money and getting the citizenship.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-27 18:30:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusPassed the California Bar Exam!
QUOTE (akdiver @ May 20 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Satellite @ May 17 2008, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The anxiety I felt over this and the difficulty of the thing cannot even compare to getting a visa for my wife. The visa was a lot more simpler, easier, and honestly less stressful.
I can't imagine this would come as a surprise to anyone. Big test after three years of study vs. filling out some papers and enclosing some documentation and fee. Nope - no surprise there (:

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As soon as I receive the official paper work I can get sworn in and finally add Esquire to my name.
You can add it to your name right now. Unlike something like CPA or PE, "esquire" has no legal distinction as far as the law is concerned. Anyone and everyone who wants can add it to their name (:

Anyway - Congratulations! I'm jealous.

Now - I have your first pro-bono case for you (:

So, guy takes his 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon to the dealer - title in hand, no lein. Shows Jeep and title to the dealer - says, "what'll give me for it?" Dealer spends some time looking at the Jeep - which is in spectacular condition - like showroom - plays around on the computer a bit - and gives a figure the seller finds acceptable. Deal is done - let's suppose dealer hands over cash on the spot - seller signs title over to dealer. The deal is done.

Unbeknownst to dealer - the seller has swapped out the axles on the Rubicon. Instead of the D44 with electric lockers, they're just plain jane axles off an X - nothing interesting or special about them - they even have the lame 3.21 (or whatever) gear ratio. Further, the transfer case has also been switched out - now it is just a plain X transfer case. Finally, just for fun, let's suppose the YES essential seats that come with the Rubicon have been swapped out with the plain ones from an X as well (although this is not critical to the question and should not affect the answer).

Dealer sells the vehicle as a Jeep Rubicon - complete with remaining factory warranty (suppose vehicle has only 10,000 miles on it). This new buyer discovers the ruse, goes back to the dealer to complain, stating dealer has ripped him off - threatens to sue, but will settle for a 100% refund of price, all taxes, fees, etc.

So - who has a case here?

Can buyer #2 successfully claim damages against the dealer for fraud? vehicle was advertised and sold as a Jeep Rubicon - which has a standard and implicitly understood definition involving the axles, t-case, and seats. Dealer did not know the equipment had been swapped out and didn't intentionally try to rip off the buyer. Due to lack of intent, does buyer have any case at all? Does buyer bear any responsibility for a conducting detailed check of components - just not verifying the vehicle is mechanically sound?

Can dealer successfully claim damages against the seller for fraud? Seller didn't make any particular claims about the vehicle - just presented ownership documents and agreed on a price. Are claims about the vehicle's components implied by the obvious fact he was selling a Rubicon? Does seller have a legal (not moral) obligation to point out such substantial modifications to the dealer (knowing full will they affect value), or is dealer obligated to confirm all components for himself? Must dealer prove buyer knew about the component swap? What if the seller bought the vehicle from someone else this way and didn't know about the swapped out components? Does this let the seller off the hook since there was no intent to defraud?

Fraud or caveat emptor - lawyers in the house, please speak up (:

Cheers!
AkDiver



The non-dealer purchaser of the jeep can probably assert mututal mistake for recission, he thought he was buying a rubicon the dealer thought (we hope knowing how honest used car salesmen are) that he was selling a rubicon with all the appropriate whistles and bells. Could the swithces have occurred during the ownership of the last owner? How to prove it came from the dealer like this? Lots of issues to be determined. Whether the dealer can assert fraud in a claim against the original seller, more facts needed, did the seller sign a bill of sale with certain particulars or only the title? In Oklahoma the burden of proving fraud is on the person claiming to be defrauded. Did the original seller know that parts were substituted? Did he with intent and foreknowledge attempt to defraud? It would seem to be a hard sell for fraud as he was selling to a person in the trade so to speak, who should have done some investigation, however, axles, transfer cases and the like might be difficult to examine prior to purchase. If the vehicle had non-rubicon seats, that should have been an indicator that something fishy was about and easy to ascertain, as we say putting a party on inquiry notice to delve further. Just my two cents. I wouldn't take this on a contingency though.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-21 08:01:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusPassed the California Bar Exam!
Now the fun begins! Congratulations and enjoy the real law, not that BS they teach you in law school.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-17 20:18:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusToilet seat covers
QUOTE (KGSodie @ Jun 2 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (slim @ Jun 1 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys have his and hers toilets and showers?

Now that is genius! I usually knock one of her 6lb. bottles of soap or shampoo or whatever (there are like 12 bottles of stuff in there) onto my toes when I shower. It would be nice to shower without that kind of hazard present. I doubt I'd knock over my lone bottle of shower gel.

And to have a throne of my own..... priceless!


Natasha has already stated we need some sort of corner shelving stand in the shower, so that she has someplace to keep her shower necessities. I feel your pain, Slim!


Do have a throne of my own, but have to share the shower. Always knock something or the other off. Oh well, I could be single.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-06-02 14:44:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusToilet seat covers
QUOTE (akdiver @ May 31 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just asked my wife. She says in private houses, almost always - in public places, generally not. She also thinks this is a dumb conversation (:


Dumb conversation or not first thing my wife did on coming to the toilet in the apartment we lived in and shared a bathroom was to take a hand towel and precisely wrap the existing toilet seat. She is from Ekaterinburg. I am too scared of her to inquire why. Mysteriously, my toilet in our house doesn't have one. OK for the man to freeze it off but not my tender one. And who came from the cold? I did notice the toilet in my wife's apartment was quite different to the one we have here in the states, water in front. She bemoans the fact we can't get a Russian type toilet here. Well, the privations of life in the States rear their ugly head again.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-05-31 14:14:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusFinal Interview Date
QUOTE (Satellite @ Jun 3 2008, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Jun 3 2008, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Might want to look at the N-400 forum and the post regarding the 20 most difficult questions for review purposes.
Are you referring to this thread:
http://www.visajourn...howtopic=130573
The civics test was last thing my wife would worry over. I am more concerned about them scheduling an oath ceremony six months after the interview. Just looked at Lexa’s timeline, not pleased.
http://www.visajourn...rofile.php?id=2
Thread:
http://www.visajourn...howtopic=130808


The first one is it.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-06-03 20:42:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusFinal Interview Date
QUOTE (Satellite @ Jun 2 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We got our final interview date in the mail today. Scheduled for July 21, 2008 at our local office. As I understand my wife has to go at it alone. However, I can have her fill out a G-28 and then I can make an appearance as her attorney. But would that only stir up unnecessary trouble since we are related?


I would go to the interview center for moral support, but wouldn't appear as her attorney, don't think it would pass the smell test. Might want to look at the N-400 forum and the post regarding the 20 most difficult questions for review purposes. Best of luck!
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-06-03 09:27:00
USCIS Service CentersService Centers New Employees
QUOTE (Ilya R. @ Apr 23 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bearucracy

DA! Before we get too enthusiastic about this, remember the new hires do not have any concept of what they are going to do, that they will have to be trained, that the people who are going to be training them are going to stop what they are doing to perform training. Bottom line, initially, the process will slow down, and hopefully, somewhere down the road speed up from glacial movement speed to that of a snail. Good luck and God bless in the VJ process.
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-04-24 07:29:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusCats?
QUOTE (Satellite @ Feb 21 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jsouthwick @ Feb 21 2008, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As to the New York requirements on pets, most states cannot interfere with any interstate movement whether cargo or people or impose local rules on transient cargo or people. That is why the statute cited makes exceptions for animals in transit via the state of New York. Not being a New York lawyer I cannot give you any more certainty than this, but having a copy of the statute you posted on VJ and the applicable federal regs will do no harm.
Nothing like making an undue burden on interstate commerce and supremacy clause (federal preemption) argument at the border with your cat! Bravo! Anyway, the individual states still have a way out if you recall:
Maine v. Taylor 477 U.S. 131 (1986) – the court held that a Maine statute prohibiting the import of minnows into Maine in order to preserve the health and integrity of their minnow population was valid, despite the fact that it was facially discriminative, because the state interest was a valid one and no alternate method of protecting such an interest was available. So if any state can make that argument about their pet populations you can have something to argue.

But were the minnows moving on to another destination or coming into Maine to freeze their little tails off? I have always found it helps to befuddle officials with the law than try to explain anything rationally. Hmmm, I wonder if that philosophy will work on USCIS folks. Doubt it, they seem to be secure in their own little world. devil.gif
OkiebollweevilMaleRussia2008-02-21 13:15:00