Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	Thank you for your help once again! I don't know what I would do without this board/family!!!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 11:36:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	QUOTE (mox @ Sep 9 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 9 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (mox @ Sep 8 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I were in your shoes I would avoid all language that looks like you're trying to avoid saying that she is your fiancee. You just lost me with this phrase... I haven't "officially" proposed yet, but it is given that I will and we are getting married within 90 days of her arrival... As payxibka says, there's no requirement that you have an "official" engagement with a ring and all. But there is a requirement that she be your fiancee. If, for example, the officer were to outright ask her "are you engaged yet?" then her answer should be an unequivocal yes. Anything else such as "he hasn't officially proposed to me but we do intend to marry" could possibly confuse the officer. And remember, these are federal workers you are dealing with. They're like cattle. They're stupid and frighten easily. So handle your relationship however you want to between yourselves, but when it comes to immigration you should tell them exactly what they want to hear. IMO that means telling them you are engaged. Thank you. It is unfortunate how they do things, but hey, I am glad we are able to be re-united! QUOTE (baron555 @ Sep 9 2009, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 9 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (mox @ Sep 8 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I were in your shoes I would avoid all language that looks like you're trying to avoid saying that she is your fiancee. You just lost me with this phrase... I haven't "officially" proposed yet, but it is given that I will and we are getting married within 90 days of her arrival... If you both have talked about getting married and promised to do that with your letters of intent that you sent in with the K-1 petition, then you are engaged to be married. If you two did not talk about it, then you should stop the process and wait until you both agree to be married. And if you have any qualms about getting married to this person or her to you, then you both should stop the process and work on the relationship. Don't become like so many we read about here on VJ, "We got married but a few months later it didn't work out." Absolutely. I just wasn't sure what exactly they meant by proof of engagement in DS156.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 11:05:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	She did say yes and we are getting married, this is not a "trial" run by any means.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 10:59:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	QUOTE (mox @ Sep 8 2009, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If I were in your shoes I would avoid all language that looks like you're trying to avoid saying that she is your fiancee. You just lost me with this phrase... I haven't "officially" proposed yet, but it is given that I will and we are getting married within 90 days of her arrival...	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 09:24:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	QUOTE (mox @ Sep 8 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only thing I would add is that the K1 is a fiance(e) visa. Which means that for purposes of immigration, she is your fiancee. Make sure she understands this for her interview. Some people have reported that they were asked when their SO proposed to them. She should be ready to answer this question. Thank you. We are celebrating 9 years since we met each other this Saturday , 5000 miles apart though . I am aware of their questions, but would saying that we made a "verbal agreement" during our last time together + letter of intent be good enough?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 19:29:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	QUOTE (baron555 @ Sep 8 2009, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 8 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What if there was a verbal agreement and I was planning to propose when she is here in the States? I have not purchased the ring just yet. Has anybody been in the similar situation? We are talking US Embassy in Moscow. Thank you! Engagement is not a requirement. For the K-1 you only have to be legally able to marry when you first files the petition and that you understand that you have to marry within 90 days of entry into the US or they go back. So to be serious, I guess the intent is that you intend to marry each other; this is what some will call being engaged. Rings don't enter into the equation. Not a problem. Baron555 - thank you! I am quite relieved to be honest. Earlier today I was filling out 156 for my SO and I wasn't sure what they meant by "proof". So I am assuming I need to send my SO a new letter of intent with a date that is closer to her interview along with affidavit of support, w2, 1040 pay stabs and letter from my job? Thank you!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 18:12:00
Russia, Ukraine and Belarus	156 part 2 - what if not yet engaged?	What if there was a verbal agreement and I was planning to propose when she is here in the States? I have not purchased the ring just yet. Has anybody been in the similar situation? We are talking US Embassy in Moscow. Thank you!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 17:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 2009 CSC Filers	QUOTE (Danu @ May 24 2009, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ May 24 2009, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have received NOA2 February 25th, application was mailed in a week or so before that. Getting nervous... Do you mean NOA1? Sorry, you are correct. P.S. No edit button?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-05-24 22:21:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 2009 CSC Filers	I have received NOA2 February 25th, application was mailed in a week or so before that. Getting nervous...	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-05-24 19:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Rich and Bey @ Sep 12 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah everyone i finally got my heart on... that means Richard will definitely be approved this week.. let's cross our fingers.. Come on Richard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They still deliver on Saturday	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-12 01:06:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	"Money is root of all evil"	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-10 22:12:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Charletie - how did it go??? Mrs. Jawi876 - CONGRATULATIONS!!! Edited by IgorK, 10 September 2009 - 12:49 PM.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-10 12:48:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Richard, hope you're feeling better and consuming lossa chicken soup! Get well soon!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 23:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 9 2009, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maire I would love to go, but it's just to expensive. Her mother is meeting her in Moscow though so it will be a lot easier for Oksana to relax. I need to have money when they get here anyways. Don't lie... it is too cold for Americans in motha land	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 14:54:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 9 2009, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well now my curiosity is tweaked Maire. second that ...	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 13:24:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (D_n_M @ Sep 9 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Proof of engagement? What is that? Section 2 of DS156... I hope letter of intent would be sufficient QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 9 2009, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 9 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am assuming everybody has proposed already to their SO? I am worried about ds156 "proof of engagement part" since I haven't "officially" proposed yet... Well I don't want to set the bar too high for everyone else and their magic moment, but my proposal was something of legend. It happened as I was cooking breakfast and had my back to her and at some point I blurted out that we should get married. I tell the girls at my office that story and they fall over themselves to be near me. It's hard to get work done when they all smack me in the head as they walk by. Haha, I remember that story, still cracks me up!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 09:44:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	I am assuming everybody has proposed already to their SO? I am worried about ds156 "proof of engagement part" since I haven't "officially" proposed yet... Edited by IgorK, 09 September 2009 - 09:35 AM.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-09 09:34:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	I am looking at 156K and was wondering where it says "Evidence of engagement to your Fiancee" - what if we are not engaged just yet?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 15:57:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 8 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 8 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 8 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That roots to lack of quality chicken broth my friend! Gid on it! as soon as I am done watching Giada From the food network? She is besides Oksana my dream woman. Hot and loves to cook.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 15:53:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 8 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 8 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That roots to lack of quality chicken broth my friend! Gid on it! as soon as I am done watching Giada	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 15:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 8 2009, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Sep 8 2009, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 8 2009, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maire @ Sep 8 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where is Richard today? home in bed sweetie Feeling any better? Chicken broth? i was feeling a little better this morning.. but not anymore... *grumble* <-- a very very big baby when sick That roots to lack of quality chicken broth my friend! Gid on it!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 15:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 8 2009, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Maire @ Sep 8 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where is Richard today? home in bed sweetie Feeling any better? Chicken broth?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 15:37:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Maire @ Sep 8 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah it was not easy at all..and one needs to be prepared....but it all worked out at the end At least the hardest things of not knowing are behind you!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 11:19:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Maire @ Sep 8 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lizandpat @ Sep 8 2009, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awww...I bet it was great, NEED! WOOHOO! Congrats, Maire!!! Any idea of how long until he flies home? Most likely he will be here at the end of this month...the exit permit takes approx. 7 days and he needs to buy the ticket 10 days ahead of time... Excellent Maire, congratulations to you guys!!! You are almost there!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-08 10:50:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	How is everybody, enjoying long weekend? I hope all is good!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-06 23:43:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 4 2009, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Richard just let her know that we are all supporting you guys and we know it will soon be over and on to the next step........and more waiting. Heck jah! Let's get you approved ASAP!!!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-04 17:51:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 4 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> call the UselessCIS again now Threaten them with a Russian in a big black mercedes with tinted windows... Tell them I'll be waiting outside if they don't send your NOA2 today.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-04 10:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Gooood morning family! Happy Friday to y'all . Hope everybody is doing well and looking forward to the weekend.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-04 10:13:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Sep 2 2009, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> like this I fell from the chair!!! Edited by IgorK, 02 September 2009 - 06:27 PM.	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-02 18:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 1 2009, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that and I really NEED some hunky punky! We can all use that I graduated a few weeks ago, enough for now. I got my Bachelor of Science in Industrial Design, need to get a decent job now. Thanks for your kind offer! I am going to look at forms that Natalia will need to fill out. Or more like I need to fill out for her	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-01 19:52:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Sep 1 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Igor! How are things going? Lee, things are going good, although I am super busy lately, was going to PM you tonight. Where do you go to school, what are you going for?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-09-01 15:27:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Aug 30 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lee b @ Aug 30 2009, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Richard as a new week begins I am hopeful that this will be the week that they finish your application. thanks lee... me too Cheering for you like you did for all of us!!!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-30 17:55:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Aug 28 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Rich and Bey @ Aug 28 2009, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> RIchard you will get yours by next week.. my guarantee or your money back.. be patient my georgia friend. lol, i will hold ya too it Don't have high expectations	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-28 19:26:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Aug 28 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well another week of frustration comes to a close and another in the works for next week. Grumble. They deliver on Saturdays too, keep your chin up!	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-28 16:46:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	It should get to MA by tomorrow	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-28 12:40:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (Richard-Joanna @ Aug 27 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (lee b @ Aug 27 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Keep your head up Richard. It's coming soon. thanks lee... I feel a little better tonight having seen 4 end of march filers being approved today... maybe they found my box End of the month, they better	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-27 20:03:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Lee, try to find a Russian speaking couple who needs babysitter...	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-27 14:47:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	QUOTE (lee b @ Aug 27 2009, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (IgorK @ Aug 27 2009, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah ####### . Yes, just got to know we are scheduled for October 19th... Thats not too far away. Don't worry my friend that time will pass before you realize it. Eeehh, kind of wishing of the opposite here	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-27 14:00:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Ah ####### . Yes, just got to know we are scheduled for October 19th...	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-27 12:45:00
K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Case Filing and Progress Reports	February 09 - VSC	Richard, anything?	IgorK	Male	Russia	2009-08-27 12:17:00