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IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresPort Of Entry
Congratulations and happy re-united life together :dance: :dance: :dance:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 15:38:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresMedical in London
Amy and Nick,

Good luck with medical, after NVC steps :thumbs: Yes, if you have prior vaccination records, you will save some money in the medical done by the U.S panel physician.

For lady applicants, medical will be scheduled in those better days :star:

Looks like you copied my signature, no problem :star:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 21:20:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??

Yes, she is very helpful to have around, and moving and merging threads right and left. I get dizzy just watching the work..... :star:



:D :D
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-08 22:49:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??

SSN is issued by the SSA..

Green cards are issued by the USCIS

There is NO "speed up" or "slow down" relationship between the two as they are not dependent on each other and are issued by different agencies....



Thank you payxibka for clarifying it :)

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-08 22:16:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??

Typical! :angry: :lol:


I ticked on the ds230 i didnt want or need another card as Id already got one. I ticked incorrectly you think?

All the documents should arrive at my wifes tomorrow. And we're getting on the case of the NVC - and senator. So I dont know if my wife will have to send all the documents back to me if our case is expedited! :bonk:


You're different category. Anything will work for you :bonk:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-07 14:15:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??

Me three- though mine has not authorized to work dhs.... on it. Thogh having a SSN helps ever so slightly I think.



:D

Yours will take little longer because you need to replace the SSN too :)

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-07 14:01:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??

I'm glad I already got my SSN..from before..maybe I'll get my greencard quicker.


CRN, we also have SSN, so we'll get GC quicker :star:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-07 13:59:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresWhat to do after POE??
CR1 people will do Removal of Condition (ROC), not AOS, after 21 months, but before 24 months of the POE.

There is no I-94 (arrival departure card) concept for immigrant visa (IR1 or CR1) holders.

SSN - Typically few weeks to 1 month or so (If ticked yes in DS-230). If you feel it is not coming within the timeframe, visit SSA office and apply one.

Welcome Letter & GC - Typically 4 to 8 weeks. If 8 weeks are elapsed, talk to USCIS or open an Infopass.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-07 12:39:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresChange in POE

Never heard before that they ask the POE at the interview. You could reasonably not even know it yet, since they expressly tell you to not make any travel arrangements until you have your visa in hand.



:thumbs:

NO ASSURANCE THAT VISA WILL BE ISSUED:
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 16:24:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresChange in POE

I dont think it could be any place....why embassy ask this at the time of interview?


NiceGuy123,

It doesn't matter!

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 16:11:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresChange in POE

is it possible to change the POE after getting the Visa?



Visa and POE have no connection.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 15:49:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresvaccinations requirements

Thanks Loto.

I will therefore try and get the test done on the UK's NHS, as it was them that disposed of the immunisation records when I was 26!

Methinks I will make an appointment with my Doctor on Monday. :wacko:


Good luck :thumbs:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 12:09:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresvaccinations requirements

Hello all you kind people

I have a question regarding vaccination requirements for my Husband who is British. He's just phoned his physicain to get records and they informed him when he turned 26 they were all burned!!! :blush: :blink:

How have other people handled this? Have they just gone in to get the vaccines AGAIN...could someone explaine what a blood teeter test is and will that be sufficient?

We are trying to get everything done ahead of time so as not to have any more delays in our process.

I'd appreciate any imput here.

Thanks so much!! :thumbs:


It is titer test. Yes, they will analyze the immunization of the body from the antibody test. Then, if any boosters are needed, they will provide it.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 12:06:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresUpdated I-864 Posted by USCIS

Differences between actual forms:
1. New one has a barcode on the first page, old one doesn't
2. New one doesn't have a typing box at the persons signature on page 8

Differences between instructions:
1. The old form the instructions were together with the form, now they're separated
2. The new one deletes "blue ink" from a choice of ink to complete the form
3. The address for reporting suggestions for changes to the form has changed from: "US Citizenship & Immigration Services, Regulatory Management division, Attn: OMB No 1615-0075, 111 Massachusetts Avenue N.W, Washington, D.C, 20529" - to - "US Citizenship & Immigration Services, Regulatory Products Division, Office of the Executive Secretariat, 20 Massachusetts Avenue N.W, Washington, D.C, 20529-2020. OMB No 1615-0075"

Aside from that everything else looks identical.



Thanks Vanessa&Tony :thumbs:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 22:06:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresUpdated I-864 Posted by USCIS
I have already filled the last edition and provided to NVC and now it is in the Consulate.

Since prior edition is valid, I am not going to send new one to my wife, because only 5 days left for her interview.

But for new people, we all suggest to use the latest edition!

Loto


LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 15:41:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresUpdated I-864 Posted by USCIS
Thank you!

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 13:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresYeah !! I130 Cr1/Cr2 Approve

Yeah ! today my case is change

Post Decision Activity
On November 23, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.

pls advise me next step


Congratulations, another CSC approval :dance: :dance: :dance:

Follow the EZ guide to understand the next steps in NVC and the Consulate - http://www.visajourn...p/EZGuideSpouse

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 13:11:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresDid I make a mistake?

Here is the forum for K-1 visas: K-1 Forum



:thumbs:
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-27 13:31:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmoving to beneficiary's country while petition is in progress?

Ill be there December 21st :) I cant wait!



Great :thumbs: Have a safe trip and enjoyable time together :)

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-27 13:32:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmoving to beneficiary's country while petition is in progress?
When do you head to Columbia, Apeters?

Loto


LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 18:22:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Proceduresmoving to beneficiary's country while petition is in progress?

It won't hurt the visa, as you have a co-sponsor lined up. If anything, it will help show you have a genuine relationship.



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LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 17:44:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

So there's the short version, now what things can I be doing to establish a bonafide relationship with my stepdaughter whom I genuinely love as do my own daughters? We have filed our petition for her immigration in October and with the electronic processing available, it won't be long before she has her interview. Aside from financial child support records, regular long distance phone calls and sporadic emails, what else would be good to gather up for her interview. Oh, I plan on getting numerous affidavits from my family and friends regarding my relationship and how I feel about my wife and stepdaughter. I brag about both a lot to anyone who might ask. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Sailorboy, Sorry, but glad to hear things worked in your favor!

The list you provided is excellent. Some points to be added, but not limited to:
Pictures together at various events including vacation
Trips to meet her including passport stamps
Any aid for her studies
Her notarized sworn letter about the affection to you
Your notarized sworn letter about the affection to her

Required docs are:
A copy of your step-child's birth certificate issued by civil authorities
A copy of your civil marriage certificate to your step-child's biological parent
Proof of the legal termination of all previous marriages for you and/or the biological parent (divorce decree, death certificate, annulment decree)

Loto

Edited by PatiencePaidOff, 27 November 2010 - 01:45 PM.

LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-27 13:45:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Because my new wife and my children from a previous marriage have a relationship also, I made sure to include lots of information and photos as evidence to support this. So, I'm not sure if this was included by Loto yet, but I think if you can prove that your spouse also has relationships with your family members, it can't hurt. A picture is worth a 1000 words, as they say, and a photo with my daughters, wife and myself together should speak volumes.


You are absolutely right, Burebista :thumbs:

Loto

Hey Loto,

Great job. :thumbs: Appreciate all your effort.

sesa.


Thanks sesa!

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-27 11:33:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Awesome job Loto :thumbs: your hard work and this guide is greatly appreciated.


Thanks Tabitha :star:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 11:12:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
The complete list is added in the EZguide - http://www.visajourn...p/EZGuideSpouse

Thanks to all who participated and spend your valuable time here. Appreciated :thumbs:

Loto

Edited by PatiencePaidOff, 26 November 2010 - 01:41 AM.

LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 01:40:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
Okay guys,

I have re-arranged the list and is going to the guide now.

Secondary Evidences of the bona-fide marriage

Though USCIS and Consulate are liberal to the petitioner's and beneficiary's marital relationship from certain countries, it is stricter to some other countries. So, if you feel you need more evidences, please use the samples below.

Some of them may not be applicable to you. Also, if you have any other evidence that is not listed, please feel free to add it.

USCIS defined secondary evidences
1) Documentation showing joint ownership or property
2) Lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence
3) Documentation showing co-mingling of financial resources
4) Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to the petitioner and the beneficiary
5) Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship
6) Any other relevant documentation to establish that there is an ongoing marital union

Sample evidences
Asset purchase documentation such as home, car etc. under both names such as joint titles, joint names in car registration
Joint loans together in mortgage, auto etc.

Lease of the home, car etc. under both names

Joint bank account in petitioner's and/or beneficiary's country
Stocks, mutual funds, retirement funds documentation together
Credit, Debit, ATM card details under both names
Money transfer documentation that shows spousal support
Life Insurance Policy under both the petitioner and the beneficiary names
Will prepared by the petitioner and/or the beneficiary showing other as beneficiary
If marriage happened in prior year, income tax filing together
Joint church tax statements
Joint invoices - utility bills such as phone, electricity, water, gas, internet, cable TV etc.

New born child's birth certificate, passport etc.
New born child's hospital records that shows both parents names and expenses incurred together
Petitioner and beneficiary's child(ren)'s school records, school report cards etc.
Baptism certificate of child(ren) of the petitioner and the beneficiary

Notarized affidavits from parents, relatives etc. to show that they knew and participated in the marriage
Third party letters with date, name, relationship, contact phone#, address etc., those who attended the marriage mainly from parents, relatives, friends etc.
Personal notarized affidavits that describe how the relationship is evolved like first meeting, who arranged the meeting, how long you knew each other before marriage, how is the relationship until now etc.

All the dated trips of the petitioner and/or the beneficiary to meet each other - passport stamps, plane tickets, boarding passes etc.
Tickets, invoices, boarding passes of honeymoon trip(s) that shows both persons' name together with the date
Hotel receipts, Rental car receipts, Gift receipts or any other miscellaneous receipts of the expenses incurred between the petitioner and the beneficiary
Wedding ring and other wedding related gifts' receipts
Auto Insurance Policy under both the petitioner and the beneficiary names
Health Insurance Policy under both the petitioner and the beneficiary names
Dated pictures together - Before marriage, Wedding Album, pictures taken in every occasion
Marriage invitation card
Marriage documentation of the religious ceremony from church, mosque, temple etc.
Phone logs
Chat logs
Emails
Greeting cards such as Christmas cards, Anniversary cards, Birthday cards etc.
Joint memberships like Sams, Costco, AAA, fitness etc.
Driver's license, State ID that shows the same address
Invitation of any function or ceremony stating both names
Wedding program order of service/event
Junk mails received under both of you at the same address
Magazine subscriptions under both names
Pet adoption records with both names

Loto


LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-26 01:26:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
Another one from art646 - A self notarized affidavit from petitioner and beneficiary how the relationship evolved.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 23:09:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
I just read a recent issue of the bona-fide relation evidence.

Details of Friends, Relatives who participated in the wedding.

And the list goes on...

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 22:46:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
Okey-dokey, It is time to arrange the feedback and to add them in the guide.

It will be there soon!

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 22:35:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Hi Loto,

Ill add wedding ring receipt.


:thumbs:
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-25 12:54:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Hi Loto: geniune marriage.. They mostly look for two people had mingled their financial lives together evidence of commitment, they look mostly financial.
Also try to take photos together at christmas times with family and friends and yourself together, pictures of New years times, your birthday, your anniversary time together, try to use digital camera with the date set in the camera. JKO7


jkelly07, yes, I'll add these points too :thumbs:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 19:30:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Just an add on to the travel documentation where you go to see your spouse overseas: simple traveling itineraries are not enough. They want proof that you got on the plane (dated plane ticket) got off at your destination (entry stamp) and actually visited your loved on the trip (dated pictures, hotel reciepts...etc). Also any type of communication with third parties talking about your relationship (dated).



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LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 15:38:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

hello, loto heres a few more a living will,both names on the car registration,joint utility bills,joint phone bill family,junk mail send to both of you at same address, stocks,shares, 401-k as beneficiary,chrismas cards, anniversary cards,magazine subscriptions,your childrens school report card, ill try to think of some okay loto, thanks jk07


Thanks jkelly (F)

Finally, it will be weighing the same weight of the applicant :)

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 13:10:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

I am glad you did this, it has given me a few options to look into. I am willing to try anything to prove this. So a big thank you and to all that have been through this and going through this.


Angel Eyes Yuseef,

Yes, we'll get more feedback and more input here from various persons going through this process.

Some of the things listed can be achieved over a period of time and gather every piece of information to prove the bona-fide relation.

Again, it minimizes the denial on the bona-fide relation. The final decision is with the consulate officer.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 12:17:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship
Thanks Horees, Richi, MT&SEL, anxious101, Markieboy :thumbs:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 11:45:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Good job Loto!
Though you do realize that some people will never be happy - if they follow your list and get an RFE :rofl:
Thats why lawyers are needed! :rofl:


:rofl:

Richi,

Lawyers cannot make a birth certificate of an un-born child of the petitioner and the beneficiary and guarantee the I-130 approval and subsequent visa :star:

This is the list we are preparing from everybody's feedback, just to minimize the hiccups in this IR1/CR1 process about the bona-fide relationship, that many are complaining here.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 11:44:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Some of this stuff requires our spouses to have ssn and if there still living in another country, how can we do joint on a lot of things. Like I have married on my auto insuracne and i have the discount but becasue he is not here and does not have a DL he is not listed on my insurance as a driver or anything. So with the distance and no ssn what can i do as joint???


Angel Eyes Yuseef,

Read from the beginning of the thread.

All are welcome to add their own points here. Some items listed here may not be applicable to everybody.

So, if you don't have a kid with your current spouse, how will show you kid's birth certificate?

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-24 11:38:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Loto,

is this in regards to what people will bring to the interview?

the reason i'm asking is because this was needed for the i-130 packet so i sent them a copy of our marriage cert and birth certificate of our daughter.

not sure if i read it on the instructions paper or the site itself that for the i-130 packet, we only needed to send one of the items from your first list and another one from your secondary list.

thanks in advance

Gio


giamimigio,

There are 2 levels of loading - front and back load.

Some people will do both front (I-130) and back (interview) load.
Some will do minimal front load (I-130) and more back (interview) load.

You are fine, in your case. I also did same like you, minimal front load.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-23 23:59:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Hey Loto,
I heard that during interview (specially in Mumbai) they are putting much weight on the bona-fide marriage questions regarding to your and spouce's first meeting, I mean how did you meet first time, who arranged the meeting (incase of arranged marriage), how long did you know each other before marriage etc..

I don't know any strong proof to support answers of such questions, you can think some of.


Any letters from the parents or relatives, wedding invitation card and all pics before marriage etc. would be helpful, in this case.

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-23 23:45:00
IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & ProceduresEvidences of Bona-Fide Marriage Relationship

Pet adoption records with both names
Wedding program order of service/event


Thanks Ladydare! These also will be added :thumbs:

Loto
LotofPatienceMaleIndia2010-11-23 23:25:00