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Middle East and North AfricaNOIR
I know what you mean about leaving out some things in chat. I didn't include our disagreements in our K1 petition, but I put everything else. This backfired, as they saw how hard and fast we moved in the beginning. Oh, how naive we were back then....Hubby and I were actually reading our very early chats tonight, and couldn't stop laughing at ourselves. We don't want to put those in, but I guess I'm afraid since I did put those in back in 2009, that maybe they will wonder why they aren't there now. I am probably making this a bigger deal than it should be. I come from "you can't show too much", but the CO proved that wrong the first time around. This is why I did nothing but the basics in our I 130 in 2010. Hubby brought all other evidence with him to the second interview, except chat records, since the CO had such a problem with them the first time. And guess what, they specifically wanted to see chat during the second interview, and we didn't have them. This is what is making me crazy :bonk: But there is some great advice here, and I thank you all for taking the time to help me out. THIS WILL BE OUR YEAR DAMN IT!!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-02-07 21:18:00
Middle East and North AfricaNOIR
Received the NOIR, and am working on organizing our package. I am including chat with the proofs as this was the only thing the consulate had asked for during the interview. Of course I am sending proof to counter each point the CO gave for denial. I have thousands of pages of chat and texts, how do I decide what to put in? It is so overwhelming. The NOIR wants to see interactions between us before engagement, after engagement, after first denial, before and after marriage, and after second denial. Nothing has changed. We speak/text/chat almost every single day since the day we met. I have house phone/cell phone/Icall/Googlevoice calls for the past 2 years. I can't find our phone records for the first year, but figured our chat logs would be enough. Do I send a log for each day? Or best to have whole conversations included? This is making me sick today
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-02-07 15:14:00
Middle East and North AfricaMENA class of 04-08 ladies
I also wonder about Morocco4ever, and Kiyah...they both helped me immensely after our first denial. I hope they are doing well
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-28 15:00:00
Middle East and North AfricaMENA class of 04-08 ladies

I started reading, mostly lurking, VJ around 2009-2010, when a lot of the 04-08 ladies were still posting. I read a ton of the archives, too. Most of y'all don't know me at all, but I hope the people this thread is directed to are all doing well. By posting in this forum, you've informed and at times entertained me and in some ways I feel like I shared your journeys a bit. Um, not in a stalker way. :bonk: But aww, shucks, it's like watching an all-star reunion here! :thumbs:


I feel the same as you...I came in mid 09, and although the guides were good, how I really learned about immigration was reading all of what these ladies had to say in MENA. And boy, how naive I was back then to the process, and the politics of MENA. I always appreciate honest, straight forward answers. I am also glad that even after the visas are issued, that people still hang around, because immigration is more than just getting the visa, it is the whole life after. I have yet to endure that part of the process, but have gotten some great advice from others way ahead of me. I, too, have also met some wonderful people here, and can't see myself going too far, as I want to pay it forward now with others going through this process.
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-28 13:31:00
Middle East and North AfricaSister needs help
They are past the NOIR, it was revoked already. They need help with the appeals. Tell your sister to get a lawyer...and she should be the one on here researching everything she can on this consulate. Good luck
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-05-24 18:12:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

I'm so excited for you!!!


Thanks, me too :dance: :D
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-30 23:07:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

I know..riding the "t" is going to be so much fun. He always asks about trains..lol...must be a guy thing. I guess it's because he sees it on TV and in the movies but they don;t have them there. The thing we take for granted are the things that excite him the most about coming here. I was telling him this morning what you said about your hubby wanting lobster as his first meal..and of course he changed his mind and now he wants lobster as his first meal too...I'm thinking his first meal will be mcdonalds drive thru Posted Image Posted Image


:rofl: As he is getting in later in the evening, and my whole family is coming to get him with me, I think I will make something easy, and when we get back from Boston, he can eat and relax. I took that next day off, so we are going to have a big cookout, and I'll cook him that disgusting lobster :whistle: Just in case, there will be chicken :D I'm anxious to see the looks on the boys faces (my son and nephew) when Ouadia shows up at school with me to pick them up. :D
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-30 22:48:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

We have talked about moving back to Jordan at some point. Right now the US is the only option as I have 2 children who I would never dream of taking away from their Dad. As much as my ex was a terrible husband, he has always been a great father, my children idolize him. My new husband will buy a house or condo in Amman, and we will travel back and forth at least once a year, and maybe someday permanently. Jordan is pretty liberal overall , I would miss a few creature comforts from the US, but other than that I would love to live there. I live in NH so it's far from the hustle and bustle of the city, very quiet. He can't wait to see trees and mountains and lakes and the ocean and all the great things New England has to offer, Jordan is pretty much desert once you get outside of Amman. He is pretty easy going much like your husband, takes a lot to upset him, always smiling. Hopefully he stays that way once he gets here. After living with my 2 teenage kids we'll see how that goes Posted Image


I can't WAIT to bring him up north....we went there every year almost my entire life growing up, and it is so beautiful. And we're only 45 min from Boston, can't wait to take him on the T into Boston. Oh, and of course the coast, which isn't too far from us either. I think we live in the best place in NH, so "close" to everything!

Edited by tany1157, 30 April 2012 - 09:49 PM.

tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-30 21:49:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
Loving my husband doesn't mean I lose my identity. If that is what anyone thinks, then they don't know one ounce of who I am. :no: And I'm not surprised someone has tried to derail the positive flow :rolleyes:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-29 19:26:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
I describe myself (and many others that know me) as a realist, with a positive outlook, and am overall very happy with life. In general, why does it seem when people have a positive outlook, they are looked upon as naive? I'm not considered a naive person, and know the challenges that are ahead for my marriage. I will be honest, I am filled with more anxiety about his arrival than happiness right now, but I know, when I see him at the airport, I will realize he is the same man that I've been in love with for almost 4 years. I personally think my husband will adjust well, but you never know. Maybe this is why my marriage is loved and accepted by all who know me...because they know my opinionated, in-your-face personality probably wouldn't sit well with a manipulating scammer out to screw me over, and that my husband loves these traits, as they make me who I am.

My husband doesn't smoke, drink, and is a practicing Muslim. He has been the breadwinner for his family since he was 21, and has been the "dad" ever since, because of his father's ailing health, and then his death almost 2 years ago. His respect for women is exceptional, and the way he treats me, his mom, grand mom, my mother and sisters is amazing. He is respected in his community, and is very hard working. He had been using our long immigration wait to further his studies, and has a list of what he wants to accomplish when he first gets here, and in our future. We look forward to building our life together, and having children. I know things may not all go as planned, but one thing I know about my husband, is that he is a man of his word. We have a great respect for each other, and I know he will continue to be a good husband and man once he gets here. Can you imagine, with his one job, he can support his family of 5, and live comfortably in Morocco. Here, at minimum, we will both have to work just to be able to support 3, never mind the extra amenities. He owns a house with a business underneath. I know my life would have been a bit more comfortable if I was able to move there with him, it just wasn't an option. I know of a few couples who don't post here anymore, that have had their husbands here over 2 years, and things are still going well. Maybe that is not long enough to call a success story, but I'm thinking they are on their way.

In the end, we all have a life to live, and we all learn from our mistakes, and try to make the best choices with what we know. Everyone here started at the same starting line, just at different times. I think that some forget that. I hope to never forget how it felt to be the newbie, and not knowing a thing about immigration, and how it felt to be denied, twice, and the feeling that just maybe, I would never be able to live with my husband in America. Yes, people get on each other's nerves, that is life. You won't get along with everyone. I also think that things get taken the wrong way a lot more often on message boards than they would in person. In the end, even though things get catty sometimes, most of the women here have great advice. I may not like someone, but if they make a good point, I'm with them.

On a side note, my husband is a very private person. He believes in the evil eye. Some people, for no reason, may just not like you, and will wish you harm or bad luck. I remember people telling me that my husband probably had a life I didn't know about, or some other secrets and that was why we got denied twice. In the end, it was just the fact that we moved fast, and they couldn't believe there was true love there. We proved them wrong. In all that time, we just grew stronger, and I love him more now than I ever did. As they say, the visa process is a piece of cake compared to the adjustment phase....if this is true for everyone, then I guess we are in for hell on earth :devil:

Edited by tany1157, 29 April 2012 - 04:18 PM.

tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-29 16:16:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

I know this is going to come off rude but it's not meant that way. What do you mean by happy ending? Like together until death? Or together for a few years and happy but the actual ending is uncertain? I don't think anyone has been around long enough to determine a true happy ending. Or are we talking about fairytale happy endings in which the king and princess (or pharaoh and princess)get married and ride off into the sunset and we really don't know how it ends up?



You make a valid point....happy "ending" seems a bit over the top. But I'm sure she wanted to hear from people a few years after immigration, and are still fairly happy. Of course, that is just my understanding, I could be totally wrong
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-27 16:04:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
I'm sorry Kat, but can we get back to the OP's topic, because it has turned into your story. You should start a thread about it, and that is where you can give us all updates. I'm sorry for your pain, but this topic was meant for success stories
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-27 15:27:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
I wasn't saying Americans exclusively, I was using as an example, because well, I'm from America, and know what I've seen, against parents who were from a different culture. Also seen my mil stick with a difficult man because divorce is not an option to her either. he has passed now, and she will never remarry.
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-27 10:19:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories
I think both sides of the divorce issue have very good points. The way I took amber's " divorce is not an option" stance, is that they will not see divorce as an easy way out ( as many, especially Americans, use divorce, when the going gets tough, walking away is easier). I am sure if her husband ended up being a pedophile, or abusive, she wouldn't stay. My parents have lived by this rule. My mom was born and raised in a strict Greek Orthodox home in Greece. So this was her mantra from the beginning. Now, they have been through some crazy tough times, but stuck it out. This was only because they were both decent people, and there was no infidelity, or abuse. If there was, that would be crossing the line, and they wouldn't still be married. This is how I viewed what amber said.

I also agree that thank God divorce is an option to us, because what person, man or woman, should be stuck married to someone who has ended up abusive, or a predator, or a sociopath? So yes, divorce should be an option for those people. Nothing is ever promised to us in this life, except death and taxes. No one can predict the future.
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-27 08:56:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

You're welcome! And good luck! I'm sure things will be fine since you've already proven you have lots of patience. :D


:lol: My husband calls us "professional waiters" :wacko:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-17 12:12:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

I agree with so much of the above post. PATIENCE & understanding is so important. Patience for yourself as well as him. It's a big adjustment in so many ways. So many things are taken for granted when your SO is not new to this country. You will get frustrated and you will have misunderstandings, but be patient with yourself and him throughout it all...

Thank you...I am ready for the challenge, at least as ready as I can be....
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-17 11:54:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

They're valid fears. Don't worry about making him happy, that's his job. :) Patience is key. So cliche, I know. Patience and understanding. Help him become independent asap. That will help things big time. Get him driving and navigating around the area asap. If he's willing, get him involved in social activities and networking. That will help in a job search. There will be rough times. If you have kids, that will be a little rough at first but if everyone works at it things will be smooth in no time. For us, the kids adjusting to my husband and vice versa was the easiest part. My husband loves kids and he's great with kids so that helped a lot. The biggest things for me was accepting someone new in my space. I was on my own and the "boss" for a few years before my husband arrived so it was super difficult for me to share my space and adjust to having to "check in" so to speak. Not saying my husband was controlling or anything but it's not like I could just go out with the girls or go shopping after work or whatever like before. I had more than just my kids to worry about. That was a big adjustment for me. On top of it, my husband wasn't able to work for several months and I wasn't used to having an adult just hanging out all the time not working. That was way difficult to deal with. Having someone in my face 24/7 was rough. LOL. I know some people may wonder, why did you get married then? I admit I was ill equipped for the whole immigration thing. I was married to a MENA guy before so I figured easy peasy, I can do this. I know all the "rules", blah, blah, blah. Yeah right! Never factored in the actual immigration/adjustment thing. Anyways, again..your fears are valid. Be patient, be understanding, have an open line of communication and understand that you will have misunderstandings due to language and culture. I've known my husband almost 8 years and we still have occasional misunderstandings due to these things.

I really appreciate you sharing your experience and giving such great advice for what's to come. Thank you!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-17 11:45:00
Middle East and North Africalooking for MENA success stories

I agree with this 100%.

Real life and extended vacations are vastly different. Getting along with someone for 6 months while on vacation (no work, no responsibilities, etc.) is much easier than living day to day life. Especially when the immigrant is limited in their independence, work history in the US, and general ability to adjust to new surroundings. Some people (like myself) think/thought...piece of cake. No, it's not a piece of cake. At all. Even if you psych yourself out for real life together, it's not even half of what you imagine. I think that has a lot to do with the break downs of some marriages. Not just because they are from MENA but because they are an immigrant, in general. You may have personalities that mesh well when on vacation or in a long distance relationship and then when you live together 24/7 you pick up on things that you didn't notice before. Anyways, what I'm saying is don't be too confident about how awesome things are on vacation. Not to be a Debbie Downer or anything. I firmly believe that the guys that end up to be scumbags were always scumbags but it was ignored while the couple was courting. Lust, infatuation, excitement of a new relationship, etc. always makes one blind to reality.


I admire that you admit you thought things would be pretty easy when your man got here, but they weren't. I always hear, "getting them here is the easy part." As we didn't have the normal immigration run, this scares the bejesus out of me! We can only do the best with what we know. I have a short fuse. I actually have been talking to myself a lot lately on how I will need to be way, way more patient when my husband gets here. Everything will be new to him. I have compassion and understanding, but my husband doesn't even know how he will feel, he has never left his country before. He may say he will be fine now, but I am scared of all sorts of things. Like, what if he hates it here? What if I can't make him happy? All new fears have surfaced since he got the visa. We will be living as a married couple now, and not in a long distance relationship. It is all new territory. I just pray we can make it through what's to come.
tany1157FemaleMorocco2012-04-17 09:47:00
Middle East and North Africa*Poof*

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tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-16 19:55:00
Middle East and North Africa*Poof*

I asked to have it deleted because I posted too many personal things and I normally don't do that, and I didn't want it out there for the world to read. Sorry........


Well then, my dear, you shouldn't be posting on a public forum :wacko: but understandable
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-16 19:43:00
Middle East and North Africa*Poof*
wow, this is the second long thread I have seen disappear in the last few weeks....is this a usual practice here? What is up with people being so sensitive! There was soooooo much useful info in that thread :huh: :huh: :huh: I left off same place as you palm tree....
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-16 19:41:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

It's all good :luv:


:blush: Feeling the love... :D

No, Resha, not every man is an "a-hole." My husband, my father, my brothers, my husband's father and brothers, and so many more - none of them are "a-holes." It makes me sad to think about what kind of experiences in your life could have led you to such a conclusion. And it disturbs me that you would want to remain married to a man that you describe in this way.

Anyway - as I said before - no one can decide how you will accept being treated except you. I don't believe that anyone here wishes you any ill or any more pain - I think we all wish you and your daughter a happy and safe life. You said you are in counseling, which is a very good start. But please remember that it takes two to make a marriage work, no matter how hard one person may try. Your husband needs counseling as well. He (and you !) have to do a lot more than just be willing to change - you both have to make the effort to actually change.

Treating each other with respect is the foundation of a successful marriage, and it's a two-way street. If you really think your marriage can be repaired, remember that referring to your husband in terms like "a-hole" is not respectful - even if it wasn't said to his face, or only said in anger and frustration.

I do wish you and your family the best.

:thumbs: :yes: WELL SAID!!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 19:09:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

:help: English may not be my first language, but am I that hard to read?


I guess I don't know you well enough to read you well... :bonk: apologies!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 17:50:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

Ya, I've never thought of my husband as an ####### in some sense. He's truly a class act.

Hon, you will do as you want, and I certainly and without equivocation wish you and your family the very best.

M4E, welcome back! How can I come here and not pick on American women? It's like shooting fish in a barrel :lol:

j/k


Hard to tell through typing...is this sarcasm? I didn't think it was, but wasn't sure.... :blush:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 17:25:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

I really do want to say thank you to everyone here for all of the advice I got.. I may not have done what everyone thought I should do, but its my choice and I will be the one to decide.. I would really appreciate a little more support.. I know most of you ladies have husbands that arent exactly what you thought they should/would be.. My husband has a job now that he starts Monday.. Inshallah this will help us be better and stronger.. Only time will tell.. Being together for a full year day in and day out/ -the time he went out/ is hard on any relationship.. My husband is an a-hole! But every man is in some sense.. The things he does will be dealt with soon or later.. By the one who can really punish him! I know you ladies think I am stupid and have low self-esteem but surprisingly you would be wrong.. I have a wonderful self-esteem! Bad judgement, yes that I may have! But I do love my husband and I am willing to try it again.. So please dont put me down for my decision..


I have to disagree with you on here....my husband may be stubborn and opinionated, but never an a-hole...If I thought he was an a-hole, I wouldn't be married to him. Even my ex husband wasn't an a-hole. Just my 2 cents...

Edited by tany1157, 25 March 2011 - 04:11 PM.

tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 16:10:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

So true.....more women need to open up their eyes and really see what and who they are married too. Not just what they want to see.

And Sofiyya....are you picking on us American women again? :P :bonk: :rofl:

For the original poster, I do hope you keep up with the counseling. Perhaps his intentions are good, but perhaps it is the "honeymoon" stage necessary to get what he wants. I have said it before, and I will say it again, there are worse things in life than being single.


Completely agree with this statement! I know too many woman who need a man in their life, no matter good or bad, because they can't define themselves without one....they feel validated by a man's attention. I have a few friends who are in mediocre relationships just because it is better than being single. Geesh, I would rather be single, than be with the wrong man....which is why I got divorced from my first husband.
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 16:07:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

I really do want to say thank you to everyone here for all of the advice I got.. I may not have done what everyone thought I should do, but its my choice and I will be the one to decide.. I would really appreciate a little more support.. I know most of you ladies have husbands that arent exactly what you thought they should/would be.. My husband has a job now that he starts Monday.. Inshallah this will help us be better and stronger.. Only time will tell.. Being together for a full year day in and day out/ -the time he went out/ is hard on any relationship.. My husband is an a-hole! But every man is in some sense.. The things he does will be dealt with soon or later.. By the one who can really punish him! I know you ladies think I am stupid and have low self-esteem but surprisingly you would be wrong.. I have a wonderful self-esteem! Bad judgement, yes that I may have! But I do love my husband and I am willing to try it again.. So please dont put me down for my decision..


Listen, I don't agree with your decision, but of COURSE you will have support. It is YOUR decision, not ours, and nobody knows your relationship better than you. I just got into defensive mode because I can't stand to see a woman (or man) get treated badly. I will pray, and hope you guys can work things out. I hope he begins being a man, and taking care of his wife and daughter accordingly (not necessarily financially, but emotionally). You and your daughter deserve the best, and that was all I wanted to get across.

(F) Good luck, and keep us posted
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 16:02:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!
:girlwerewolf2xn: Can we stop nit-picking at sofiyya's sentence?....I see where both sides are coming from, but I think we got it ladies :ot2:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-23 18:40:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!
Maybe he found out it will be easier to remove conditions if he sticks it out with her....I don't think I trust this guy. What he said to you was degrading IMO....do what you need to do....but I would still document anything just in case...
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-22 17:46:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

Oh Resha :no: Under most circumstances I'd say you should try for the baby's sake, but not after what he's implied. That's just my opinion, take it or leave it..


absolutely agree!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-22 17:39:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

Resha, I wanted to tell you earlier but didn't get the chance. You need to decide if you want to turn him in to ICE with the evidence you have, or let it go so he stays here and you can go after him for child support. I really think you need to give him a dose of "American reality", that he can't just take advantage of an American woman like he has and get away with it scott free. Start building a case against him now- if he's on your lease, get him taken off of it, save those texts, collect some witnesses that he is deserting you. In 6 months, file for divorce on grounds of desertion- and make sure the divorce record states that he left right after getting his greencard- this will mess up his chances of being able to remove conditions on his own. Don't let him near you- I don't think he's smart enough to know about VAWA, but you never know.

Focus on getting your OWN life back and taking care of Fati. She needs special attention now, and no one's better to give it to her than you. You can get through this a stronger woman.

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Some very good advice, seems to be the norm with you :thumbs:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-22 13:32:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

he has decided to go stay with some family in another state they are going to help him get a job.. i found that out through a text to his cousin.. guess he wrote it in english so i could read it.. It really breaks my heart to know that I have been used all this time.. And my daughter is in the middle of all this! Thank God I love her and could never leave her!!



(L) (F) ((((HUGS)))) May God/Allah be with you during your time of need
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-22 10:40:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

well we just had a big fight I was trying to be nice and stop the fighting but... I have to change myself for him! When I say I want him to change for me he wont.. Bc hes a male and im a female he said.. He says he wants me to clean cook everyday or he doesnt want to be with me.. He told me we were so close to not being together so I told him to go.. Call his cousin and go.. So of course he got mad and took off in the car.. Told me to call his cousin to come get him at no place other than the POOL HALL.. his sanctuary! I am heartbroken bc I do love him but im really just soo freaking tired!


LEAVE HIM! Please, you DESERVE BETTER! Let him go! HE WILL NEVER CHANGE! I dated someone like this, almost exactly....it took my ENTIRE family to practically disown me, just so I could see what he was doing to me, and I thank God everyday I had family to help me see it, even though it SUCKED at the time....I hope you can grab your courage, and kick his a$$ to the curb. Excuse my french, but what a PIECE OF SH!T!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

:ranting: :ranting: :ranting: Damn, I'm fired up over this guy
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-21 20:59:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

it is a really good post thank you all for your responses.. my husband is 26 years old and yes hes been carrying on like this the whole time hes been here.. It is really my fault hes gotten this far acting how hes been acting.. I allowed it for so long, but I have asked him not to do it many many times and its not working.. I know its a bad environment for my daughter.. I have seen the effects already.. She is 2 1/2 now and she knows! She has shown a couple times that she understands it.. And its really sad for me! I really want to do this.. but its hard.. I really need ways to make this easier..


It won't be easy :( BUT, once you take that first step, you will take another, and another. You MUST ask him to leave, or you leave. That is the first step....(assuming you want to leave, I do not want to dictate what you do)Maybe you have family you can stay with? You have seen your fault in this,(BUT, he is a grown man, and needs to take responsibility for his actions) but now you can choose whether to live with it, or realize you deserve better than it. Once you are apart, it will suck, it will, but, you have to remember, that only time will heal it. And it will get better, I promise it will. That little girl will give you the light you need. I am praying for you, because I know the pain of breaking up a family, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but do what is best for you and your daughter. (F)

Edited by tany1157, 20 March 2011 - 08:50 PM.

tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-20 20:47:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!

How old is your husband ? Disappearing to “play” for 6-12 hours a day while you’re left all alone to take care of your daughter and your home all by yourself is very childish and irresponsible.

It seems you are the sole breadwinner for the family as well as the sole cook, maid, and laundress - while he plays. No wonder you feel upset !

From your timeline, your husband has been in the U.S. for almost 14 months, but only got his EAD last month and has not found a job yet. So has he been carrying on in this way since he arrived ?

I am guessing that your child is around 2 to 3 years old. This is definitely old enough to notice that Mommy and Daddy spend a lot of time fighting, or that Daddy isn’t around much, or that Mommy is sad all the time. It’s not a good example or environment for your child.

Please ask yourself honestly what attracted you to this man in the first place. Was it because he exhibited the qualities of a man who would be a responsible husband and father ? Make a list for yourself with the reasons why you feel that you love him, and then the reasons why your marriage is not happy.

No one can change his attitude and behavior except him. However, you can change your life by taking control of it. You don’t have to be anyone’s doormat. But you are the only one who can decide how you will accept being treated, and how you will accept your child being treated.


:thumbs: :thumbs: excellent post!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-20 18:20:00
Middle East and North AfricaTired woman here!
I am so sorry you are going through this. I would like to give you advice based on my own experience in deciding to break up with my ex husband, the father of my child. Of course you go back and forth seeing what is good for your child, and what settled it for me was that I didn't want my son growing up thinking that a loveless marriage was how it was supposed to be. I didn't want him to think that constant bickering was ok. And if I would have stayed for my son, I didn't want him to someday feel guilty because we stayed in an unhappy marriage just for him. Just my two cents, but if you stay, you will be teaching that precious little girl that his behavior is acceptable, and will probably go into that same pattern of man when she is old enough to date. Of course it isn't 100%, but remember, you are her role model. You deserve respect and equality. I feel so sad for you guys, I remember when you guys passed the interview, I was your friend on fb, and saw the beautiful pics of your family. I know its very hard, but be the strong woman that I'm sure you can be! Pm me anytime, if you need to
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-20 15:34:00
Middle East and North AfricaMiddle East Conflicts, Where are we heading ?

Unstable countries may or may not be a sign of end of times. Just that history repeats over and over, the end has been called upon for thousands of years. No one will know for sure. But all times is a good time to have god/allah in your life and to live life the right way.


:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-19 21:22:00
Middle East and North AfricaHello to my old hangout
Done :D and what a cutie!

:ot: Not sure if you remember me, but you helped me with a lot of advice during my fiance's denial in january of 2010....Just wanted to say thank you again, and his interview for cr-1 is this monday! Feeling a ton better this time around, and I got to visit morocco 2 more times :luv: I hope you are doing well!
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-03-25 16:29:00
Middle East and North AfricaTODAY- (April 6)- Chat with Casa Consulate
:blush: :blush: :blush: ok, you guys are embarrassing me! :P
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-04-06 19:06:00
Middle East and North AfricaTODAY- (April 6)- Chat with Casa Consulate

I just wanted to say, Tany, that I really admire your attitude through all of this! It's not something seen around here very often. :thumbs:


aww thank you Jenn! Don't get me wrong, it sucks, and its hard, but, what good is being irrational gonna do?? Ouadia and I know what we have, and we know our day will come, and we know the consulate is wrong about us. But, what can we do, but follow the law, and be respectful of what these CO's have on their plates. I can't imagine that the USCIS will deny us, after approving 2 of our petitions, and I think in the end, our relationship will be validated, then we won't have to prove ourselves to anyone anymore!

And even though I would rather have the hubby here, I get to go to morocco again in a couple of months! He'll get here, just for some reason, God says our time isn't now...

I might ask them what their position is on "front-loading" a petition - including evidence of a relationship beyond what is required by USCIS in order to give the consulate some prelimnary evidence up front.


Chat is finished :( but that would have been another great question
tany1157FemaleMorocco2011-04-06 10:10:00