biggish data

denied

How many visits? Did you get married on your first visit? Have you applied a K1 for him before? More info will help us help you....sorry to hear of your denial....

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-03-10 14:23:00

Interview Preparation

It sounds like you have most of what you need. I am waiting to hear the GREAT news on May 10th, because I am sure you guys will get it. After that "invasive" RFE you got, what else would they need?? :star:

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-04-19 16:29:00

Should I??????

It is possible that the fact you are black is suspect to them too. Traditionally, at least as far as Egypt is concerned you don't see that very often. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, just making an observation. I think where most middle east countries are concerned, just about anything out of the ordinary is suspect.

What is funny, is any type of "dating", or meeting girls online is out of the ordinary, but many couples get through, and many don't....there just doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason....and I never thought her race would have anything to do with it, but I guess it could be an issue....what BS if it is! uggghhh, how frustrating!

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-04-19 17:03:00

Should I??????

I never thought or said just getting married would make anything go away..... Actually it is what I wanted to do in the first place because I am muslim and in Islam the is no such thing as engagment.... But he wanted to listen to the advice of his sister and brother and go for the K-1

There is no need to get defensive....I never said you said that, I was just stating a fact. That is all....please don't read my comments as anything but advice for you. I have been through a lot with immigration and Casablanca, so I feel I can speak a little on this topic. Having family in the US is a red flag. I am not sure what your other red flags are, I am just going by what you have stated. Best of luck in what you do....

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-04-19 15:16:00

Should I??????

I am 6 years older than him... I am african american, we both are muslim, met online. I was married but divorced 7 years ago, he has never been married, He has a brother and a sister in the state (both married to nonmuslims) He applied for the lottery visa about 5 years ago..... If these things were the problem with the K-1 will they also be a problem with the CR-1????

Just getting married will NOT make the original reasons for denial go away. You just need to know your red flags, and be as prepared as you can be. I would look into my recent threads about our denial for the CR1...we were originally denied a K1 also. We don't have many red flags either....we are as simple as they can get, but the consulate sees something, and we don't know what yet. Good luck

Edited by tany1157, 19 April 2011 - 02:35 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-04-19 14:34:00

NVC and sign in

thanks
why the denial. they give you decent reason and respect when you had interview?
We married about the same time 2/15/2010

They did at least treat my husband with respect this time around. The CO said they didn't believe we married for love. Even though this sucks, and I do mean, it SUCKS, this whole process has brought us so much closer. Sometimes God wants us to fight even harder for things that really matter. I wish you two very good luck! (F)

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-07 15:32:00

NVC and sign in

YAYYYYYY!!! Sign in failed is FABULOUS news!!! Now you wait for your interview. Congrats

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-06 11:47:00

so do you think maybe they sent it back to uscis to take the desicion to have a visa or to stope it so i still have chance to have my visa and my wife she filed the form I-130 for spous pleas i need more information thank you for ur help

You are not officially denied. The consulate is giving the petition back to the USCIS to review it, with a recommendation to deny. USCIS will then ask you for more evidence, or not, and either reaffirm or deny. This is def not the end. Please read what we have already told you.

thx for everybody to help me and correct what this person said to cancel the case he really scared me the first time but i feel like he want me to cancel it and i dont know
and i want you my friends know that my wife call them again and they check my case and they told her my visa it not DENIED so do you all think that real or they lie and they told her they only need more information about what i said in the interview but i dont know im waiting for your advice pleas help me i did not eat all the day i feel scared i want start my life with my wife soon
and about her dibloma i know her degree and she have only hight school diploma i ask them about that andthey ask me what kind and i said i dont know becaus we never talke about the kind and my wife she just told me he only want treak you becaus ther is no diffrent betwwen diploma hight school that only on colleg so i answer good and told them she have only hight school diploma

The consulate didn't officially deny you, they are sending it back to USA....but in reality, you WERE denied a visa at this time.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-07 16:24:00

This is a spouse case. You seem to be out of your element, San Diego. Time to bow out. I-130 petition approvals do NOT expire. Read and learn.

Actually CR1 DOES expire, whether as a visa or as a status. What doesn't expire is the approval of the I-130 petition. K1 is a visa. Generally K1 visas expire six months from issue. What expires in four months is the approval of the I-129F petition. If you want to help, learn the correct terminology first.

Thank you for clearing up what I was trying to say. I was talking about the petitions, not the actual visas. Abandoning a CR1 petition, then refiling another one does not make sound sense to me. That was what I was trying to get across, and the fact that the CR1 PETITION will not expire. But thank you for adding the other facts...and if you notice, I never said anything about an actual visa, I am talking petitions here

Edited by tany1157, 07 June 2011 - 03:53 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-07 15:52:00

I also wanted to correct a statement I saw here....CR1 does NOT expire. The K1 has a 4 month validity date, but NOT a spousal petition. The only option is to wait for USCIS to get it, and for them to send you a request for more evidence, then reaffirm or give a hard denial. And even then, there is an appeals process if there is a denial at the USCIS level. Please research any info people give you.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-07 15:28:00

I think from your other thread, and this thread, it has been stated quite clearly what your wife needs to do. You causing a fuss over there will do nothing but harm your case, IMO. Your wife needs to contact the consulate, email is best, and contact her senators or congressmen. But I will tell you, it seems pretty rare to get the consulate to keep the case. I have been through TWO denied petitions at this consulate, for the same person. K1 denied, then CR1 denied. USCIS just got our CR1 on May 10. USCIS told our congressman's office that it will take 6 months to review.

Please, instead of freaking out on the boards, have a CALM and RATIONAL discussion with your wife, and let her know she needs to contact any person in office in her state. It is very easy to find out who they are. Just do a google search. I understand, as well as MANY people on this board, what you are going through. It happens a lot in Casablanca (denials). We are trying to help you, but you need to calm down first.

I wish you both the best

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-07 15:17:00

how can my wife send in rebuttal to the USCIS

What's that squeaky??? You get the hubsters on here to give em hell?!? :rofl:

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-14 19:01:00

how can my wife send in rebuttal to the USCIS

Man seem u have changes your user name, but just changing the user name would not change anything. If you guys are really interested and would want to know more about how you can resolve your situation you have to trust ppl on here or not at all listen to anyone on this forum.

PPl have alreay told you what you should be doing and what your wife shoulde be doing.

AGREED!

I, for one, am finished assisting this man, as I have already given him sound advice, many times, and he continues to ask the same stuff over and over. To the OP, if you can't trust people online, which I don't blame you for deciding that, then get off the forums, and ask an immigration attorney. Period.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-14 17:15:00

i need all the question the consula can ask me in my next interview

They asked my husband in the first interview to write down all the jobs I had in the last 5 years, and to write down every supervisors name at each of those jobs. They also asked the names of the schools my niece, and 2 nephews went to. He could only answer my current job, my current supervisor and my last job. He didn't know the school names. I didn't even know the names of one of the schools. I thought these were normal things an SO might not know about another.

IDK about the preparedness though, we were pretty thoroughly prepared, and they did NOT like it the first time around. The first thing they told my hubby before they grilled him for over an hour was that they did not like our package. My senator's office told me that the Consular Chief said he had never seen such a perfectly organized, and well thought out package before. But see what happened, being TOO thorough backfired in a big way. Because I was utterly #######, it looked too good to be true. I am telling you, there is no way to figure out how or why they conduct their approvals and denials, it is different for every single case. I think this is the most frustrating aspect....because you can get advice from others, but when it comes down to it, every case is individual.

Edited by tany1157, 14 June 2011 - 06:43 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-14 18:43:00

befor my interview they give me so much paper pleas help

because you cant imaging how much plane me and my wife have for this summer i thought they will give me visa and me and my wife we want spend in the woood like 2 month and and go to lake for 1 month and i was so exited about that but when they did not give me the visa i was so sad becaus the plane i have with my wife for the summer it broken and she is broken too and my wife ask me always if i have an idea to help us that why im always asking so much and i want you know frome ur pic i think that not me who want the visa maybe someone close to you becaus my wife she is so prrety

if ur husband really love you he will act crazy but he did not becaus he want to show u that he dont care about the visa so u have to think about that but me i let my feeling controling me that why i act crazy like that u have t ask ur self why ur husband love u becaus i know why i love my wife

I am UTTERLY HORRIFIED at what you just suggested about squeaky's husband....HOW DARE YOU! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You have no right to suggest how another person's reaction to something is wrong, we all react to bad situations differently, and some people handle bad news better than others. It has NO bearing on how they feel about each other. My husband was crushed, but he would NEVER go around a public forum acting a fool. He is a very private man. But that doesn't mean he doesn't love me, and you have no idea how anybody else's husband reacted, not even squeaky's. You don't know her situation. She lived with her hubby in Morocco. I am sure that is what helped TREMENDOUSLY in him getting his visa.

I had plans for my hubby and I last year, and they were crushed....we had plans for THIS year, like him being here for my baby sister's wedding, my entire family wanted him here for that event, and guess what, those plans were crushed too!! We were DEVASTATED! But, what can we do. We did all we could do, and we need to wait like everybody else in this process. If your relationship is true, you guys will get through it, I promise you that. Some people here tell it like it is, no sugar coating, but it isn't to be mean, it is to be truthful. Don't get defensive sir, but it is a fact that a TON of moroccan men use american women, this is why it is so very difficult to get a visa out of Morocco. But, there are some very good moroccan men. I do not know, nor do I care which category you fall under. I am not here to make those assumptions, as it is not my business. I can only help you by telling you my experiences, and hoping for the best for you guys. Do the right thing. Unfortunately, we are all at the whim of immigration. I would follow the rules until you finally have your visa. I know it stinks, but you guys will get through it. In the meantime, start building more for your case, and start collecting more evidence. You said your wife is going to Morocco, and that is a great start. But calm down man! You don't want this process to kill you before you get to live with your wife!

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-13 09:06:00

befor my interview they give me so much paper pleas help

yeah and if my wife want we can visit usa only 1 time in year and if i thought marriage visa it hard like that i will filed a tourist application the first time and married my wife ther but i did know that the first time

LOL this is why they don't give many young Moroccan men tourist visas to USA

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-12 11:44:00

befor my interview they give me so much paper pleas help

i have question please why they Denied your visa 2 time im sure you have more experience than me and you talke good english so what happend tell me pelas may that will help me for the next interview

They don't believe our relationship is based on love. But that is all they would say. I have other topics from when we went through our denials. There is too much history to write all over again in this topic. Search my name on the site...Tany1157...I really feel for you, but it is just annoying that you are not listening to anyone that is trying to help you. Here is our "red flags"....met in online dating site, engaged on my first visit to morocco, we are different religions, I am divorced with a child. These MAY or MAY NOT have had much of an impact on our denial. We really are not sure EXACTLY why we keep getting denied, but we DO know that our relationship is true, so I kept going back to visit him in Morocco, and will be going again hopefully this summer. We are taking this wait time to build more evidence, and spend more time together. I just want you to know, that this isn't the end, just be smart in your decision making.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-09 16:54:00

befor my interview they give me so much paper pleas help

yess me too i really lose my mind i cant understand nothing brother

Souufiane....squeaky is NOT trying to make you sick , and neither is anyone else, but squeaky is CORRECT when she says you were DENIED a visa at this time. The consulate will say "not denied, but sent back to USCIS"....BUT THAT MEANS YOU WERE DENIED A VISA AT THIS TIME....Souufiane, I have been through TWO denials now in Casablanca. First one was when I was engaged, and second one after I married my husband. Please trust me when I say, this IS a denial. Now move forward, and prepare yourselves for the next steps.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-09 16:24:00

no pleas answer again i was lost and mad and i went to doctor yester day im sorry to bother but pleas can u tell me what will happend after they sent my application back and how much time that will take and pleas tell me if they will give onother interview or they will deside to give me visa

I understand you are upset. But you keep asking the same questions over and OVER again. MANY people have told you what is going to happen.

1)Your petition is being sent back to USCIS. That is quite clear, and not sure why you don't understand this part.

2)Once your petition gets to USCIS, it will take about 6 months for them to review your petition.

3)After USCIS reviews your petition, they will either reaffirm without any other evidence from you, OR they will send your wife a Notice of Intent to Revoke, which will give you guys a chance to give the USCIS more evidence, and THEN after receiving your evidence, they will make a decision to EITHER reaffirm your petition, or deny it.

4)If USCIS reaffirms your petition, USCIS will send it back to Casablanca where they will schedule you another interview.

It seems your wife has done what she can. She has contacted her senator, and the senator will be in contact with the appropriate people. You two NEED to go over every single question asked, every answer you gave, how your body language was, what you saw about the consular officers body language, etc.

With all due respect to you sir, as I know this is a bad time for you guys, YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN!!! Freaking out will get you NO WHERE, and will actually make you LESS productive. And just out of curiosity, why doesn't your wife come on this site?? Maybe she could be a little more clear and concise with her responses.

P.S....please stop posting the same questions over and over and over again, and all over the boards. Maybe you should ask a moderator to put this in MENA, as MENA is a different beast from other countries. You may be able to get more specific consulate questions answered there.

Good luck to you, and please, you have gotten some very straight-forward advice on what to do from MANY people, nobody can tell you WHY you were denied, we can only SPECULATE based on the information you have given us. We are actually more clueless than you because we were not at the interview, and we are not in your relationship.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-09 16:15:00

Be aware of the fine print on your I-130 approval letter

I will try to make this as short as possible...We were approved on MAY 20TH and we had not heard anything from the NVC so I finally called on the 16th business day. The told me that they had not yet received my case but that they would investigate. To my horror I received an email on Thursday from the NVC saying that the field office was holding my petition. I was in complete shock, so I went on line and thanks to God there was an appt available that same day. When I arrived to the local office I spoke to the women and she kept saying that my case was not there and I said yes look at the email from the NVC and then she looked at it and said oh yes it is here. Then she proceeded to ask me questions about my husband and I said he was not living in the US then she points out that the approval letter said

The above petition has been approved. The person this petition is for will be notified separately when a decision has been reached on his or her pending status of adjustment application.

Because it says this they were holding our petition thinking that my husband was adjusting his status and living in the US which he wasn't.

I called USCIS and they told me this was an error on their part and that my case would immediately be sent the NVC. I really want to believe that, that is true but I seriously doubt that. Our case is probably still sitting on the case workers desk gathering some more dust.

The worst part about losing a month is that our attorney didn't even bother to read the fine print. If he would have seen this he could have called USCIS and have corrected the error ASAP!

Another reason why I think attorneys are useless...I am sorry you lost the time, as I know every second counts while waiting on immigration!

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-06-19 21:46:00

Question about A number on Appeal?

I have had a few people asking me to share more.Well we married in Oct,"2008" ,we filed our I-130 end of May "2009" ,was approved by USCIS Dec "2009"
we had an interview in casa Sept,"2010" refused the reason they gave when we recieved our NOIR was In one of our chats they asked my husband if I had finished school He stated no but the Co said that in my chat I stated that I had finished school by getting a GED but this was not true I never said that and my husband was correct so we sent in the proof for the NOIR and more evidence to prove a bona fide marriage so I sent in everything but then that was revoked and stated we could make our last appeal and this time it was stated that since our joint account didn't have enough activity I have to explain why the account doesn't have more activity so here we are. But God willing this time. And I have lived here in Morocco with my husband this whole time (3 years)!

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. Thank you for sharing with us. We don't know exactly why we have been denied, so I am actually looking forward to the NOIR to see what the consulate's problem is. If the love and bond is real, we will make it through (you, me, and anyone else stuck in the same position)

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2011-10-18 12:10:00

Denied Spousal visa CR1 in Casablanca

USCIS received our returned CR1 petition on May 11, 2011. We were just told to wait another 120 days for a response from them

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-01-08 14:29:00

Where does your wife live in the states? You can do a search in her area on google.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-17 19:52:00

Why everybody keep saying i cant go to usa even if my wife with me here in morocco that should show them we love each other and did someone had revoked befor and they stope
hime to travel with his wife to usa because me and my wife will stay in moroco till we get the visa and we decided that before

We keep telling you, and you are not listening. Your petition was REVOKED. You obviously don't understand anything that just happened to you guys. Why doesn't your wife come on here? Maybe she could understand what we are saying better. It obviously doesn't matter that your wife is living there, because they still revoked your petition. Stop acting like it isn't a big deal, because it is. You have almost a zero chance in coming to America. File your appeal, but be ready to settle with your wife in Morocco. If she can't live there forever, then be prepared to have a long term relationship with her when she comes back to the states. There is no way around this, you guys need a lawyer, NOW

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-17 18:42:00

I will keep you guys in my prayers. I understand, as do many other people, how much this process sucks. Good luck to you guys

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-17 07:59:00

Could someone help me out with this? Won't his case have some kind of fraud marker attached to it? Also, I thought a cr1 denial needed to go through an appeals process? Could anybody with more knowledge clarify for me?

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-17 04:59:00

why i cant live with my wife in USA that crazy and how my wife can live in morocco with me without her daughter i think there is a solution for that because that does not make sense
and no living in America for me that forever or only fr a while

I'm shocked at how little you know about the process you just went through, and I'm more shocked that you STILL don't understand the seriousness of what just happened. The NOIR was your chance, and you apparently blew it. And just filing another petition will not make what just happened go away. And what doesn't make sense?? The NOIR clearly stated why they don't believe your relationship. From what you told us, those reasons could have been easy to overcome. You said you sent chat records, but did you actually answer to each point they gave for a denial? Or did you just send in more evidence? Did you have personal letters from family in support of your relationship? Also, would you mind giving some info on your case? Like how many visits did your wife have, which visit did you get married. What's the age difference? Where did you meet?

Edited by tany1157, 17 February 2012 - 04:55 AM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-17 04:49:00

I am actually shocked that you had an initial denial, then a NOIR to respond to, and NOW you are asking what it means when they revoke your petition?? :blink:

It seems you didn't realize how serious the NOIR was....I am really sorry to hear this, but revoked is pretty bad news. I think there is an appeals process, but from what I understand, it is hard to overturn an officers denial on revoked petition, which means no living in America for you. You should have been researching all the possibilities as soon as you were denied last year. I'm so sorry for you guys!

Edited by tany1157, 16 February 2012 - 05:56 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-02-16 17:53:00

Process after approval reaffirmed

Interviews are SCARY!! Glad I could help

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-02 00:26:00

Process after approval reaffirmed

From what I understand, no visa fees again, but I'm thinking you will need current sponsorship paperwork, def all new court/police certificates, and def new medical. You will most def go through another interview. Reaffirmed is in no way a visa, or a guarantee of a visa. He will have to pass another interview. Your petition will go through NVC again, but just as a formality. They will scan it, and send it right off to Casa. Good luck, I am in the same exact position as you are

Edited by tany1157, 01 March 2012 - 12:34 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-01 12:34:00

does uscis accept scanned appeal form eoir 29

this is the form for revoke i hope that can help to know how you all can help me thank you

This is the 3rd page of the 3 page NOIR, which is general info, because I had the same one. The page with the reasons for the denial are on page 2. Could you show us that one?

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-05 15:22:00

i got( A number )in eoir-29 appeal

does someone understand why the uscis put alien number in the notice .that they reciev our eoir-29 and they are working in it
and the alien number it like that Axxx xxx xxx and i never have this alien number before in all the notice uscis sent us thank you

I've been doing some searching online for you, and it seems this number is an Alien Registration Number which you use when you are trying to find out anything on your appeal. I'm not sure why it's there, but doesn't think it changes anything. I will attach a form I found online. I hope this helps you.

Attached Files

800NumberReplacement.pdf 29.69KB 8 downloads

Edited by tany1157, 24 March 2012 - 03:41 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-24 15:33:00

i got( A number )in eoir-29 appeal

the uscis sent us letter saying that they reciev our eoir-29 but in the tope of the notice it has A-number and i never had it before what that meane pleas

I can't answer your question, but just wanted to say I am happy to hear they have received your appeal. I hope you hear great news! :thumbs:

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-23 19:01:00

is that mean our appeal got approved

I'm keeping you guys in my prayers....fingers crossed for an approval! :thumbs:

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-30 13:10:00

??!!!Will they issue visa on the same day or make us wait again???!!!!

Morocco does not give visa the same day, NEVER buy ticket until you have the visa in hand. This will NOT be easier because it's your second time, or because you'remarried. Be prepared. Good luck!

Edited by tany1157, 11 April 2012 - 03:25 AM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-04-11 03:21:00

what i can do if i got denied

You need to take a deep breath and relax.

Did you understand my answer of what your wife needs to do?

There is nothing else to know....just read my response and that is what your wife needs to do.

It's true sir, this is it. What we have told you is it. I understand how it feels when you first get denied, you are in shock for days. I really understand how you feel, but it is SO IMPORTANT to go through this calmly and wisely. Work with your heads, you and your wife, and not your emotions/hearts, when dealing with anyone in immigration, especially the consulate. I hope you take this advice, and proceed wisely. Good luck

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-08 20:07:00

what i can do if i got denied

Thank you togetherforever for reposting my advice. OP, the advice I gave you is correct. togetherforever is correct in saying that this is where your wife needs to be calling her senators. The senator's office will have her sign a release so they can speak on her behalf, and they can make an inquiry to the consulate. She can email the consulate, stating her side, and requesting another interview. They are pretty good at responding to emails. Try this, but most likely, your case will still be sent back to USCIS. In that case, my advice that was reposted is where you will go from there.

This is the link to find her senators http://www.senate.go...enators_cfm.cfm

This is the email for the consulate ivcasablanca@state.gov

Edited by tany1157, 08 March 2012 - 07:59 PM.

tany1157

Female

Morocco

2012-03-08 19:56:00