biggish data

QUOTE (Jason&Dani @ Apr 24 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Maybe they do say that but we are still unable to provide a link for Shrew that shows that their procedure is to do things based on the date. At one time when there were issues with the delay problem they had on their website stating that they would honor the date recieved and that things would be done on a first in first out baisis, now there is nothing that shows that on the USCIS website

What do you mean? It says they process by receipt date clearly on their page. That it also says it could take as many as 10 months to process is possibly true but irrelevant. Only *if* the previous apps have RFEs does going to someone receipted afterward make ANY sense at all.

Even if they were to honor the actual NOA1 date, we're still screwed because my NOA date is January but people who were received after that have gotten approved.

Bottom line : FIFO is FIFO. Receipt date is receipt date. The date of the NOA is not the receipt date -- the receipt date is clearly stated on the NOA1.

"USCIS processes applications in the order they are received by application type"

How much clearer can they be that this is supposed to be FIFO?

They need to answer about the drunken sailor route they are taking through the applications.

MsZ

Female

Canada

2008-04-24 13:21:00

QUOTE (Jason&Dani @ Apr 24 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So pretty much no one can say that things are unfair because they never mention anywere else that they use the FIFO system.

USCIS doesn't say "FIFO" but FIFO is the equivalent of processing by receipt date which indeed is stated by USCIS.

In that respect, they both agree. FIFO tends to be used in computer circles and not in regular life. So that it doesn't show up on the USCIS site should not be of concern at all. It is geek speak.

MsZ

Female

Canada

2008-04-24 12:53:00

The ombudsman's transcript is interesting. It says the date is for receipting, not processing. But USCIS clearly states that these are the dates they are just comleting, not processing. (Per http://www.uscis.gov...0000ecd190aRCRD )

So I don't find the ombudsman's report to be credible. Further, he's a watchdog, not USCIS. What he says is not in fact, fact.

I don't think quoting him gets us anywhere.

MsZ

Female

Canada

2008-04-24 10:59:00

"May take" -- but since they are clearly processing I-130s filed recently they might want to explain to anyone with an October receipt date (or earlier) why this is the case. They should NOT be working on a case filed after if they are allegedly doing them in order. Unless a case is expedited, it shouldn't be processed except for when all previous cases have been dealt with in some manner -- processed and moved on or an RFE is put into place and the case waits for the petitioner to act.

They are clearly not using the receipt date. At best, they're using the NOA date. And even then, it isn't right!!

MsZ

Female

Canada

2008-04-24 10:23:00

It is a long link but here it is :

http://www.uscis.gov...00045f3d6a1RCRD

But of course since their dates are so wacked, they're in the clear.

Edited by MsZ, 24 April 2008 - 10:19 AM.

MsZ

Female

Canada

2008-04-24 10:16:00

For Sept-Dec Filers

QUOTE (SHAPE OF MY HEART @ Apr 19 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi Ilya,
Being apart for long makes us love more stronger and missing more each other. Don't let the distance of physical affects your relationship. Good luck. Be strong and more patient with the waits.

-Shape

QUOTE (Ilya R. @ Apr 19 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

All of you who have been waiting and do not have a chance to see/visit your loved one. All this waiting has it benefited your relationship or do you feel it somehow damaged it?

I understand that and I am being strong, but all of people cant be feeling exactly the same. We are all different. Some are patient some are not. I just think its unfair to a person if he/she cant wait for this god long process and loses their man/woman.

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-19 08:56:00

For Sept-Dec Filers

All of you who have been waiting and do not have a chance to see/visit your loved one. All this waiting has it benefited your relationship or do you feel it somehow damaged it?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-19 08:46:00

-october 2007 filer VERMONT

congrats!

Hopefully Nov/Dec starts getting approvals soon too

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-21 10:46:00

I-130 Expedite Approved: How Long Until I-130 is Adjudicated

I think in Vermont they just look at expedite cases different....

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-22 13:10:00

rfe lines

QUOTE (Jason&Dani @ Apr 21 2008, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The way it works is that you call the 1-800 customer service number at USCIS, while in the automated phone selections you want to press the number that says " if you are calling about a notice that you recieved from USCIS requesting that you submit more evidence...." well something like that, once you do that you will enter in your NOA1 # and it will say you need to submit the evidence that was requested , then you can select to speak with someone regarding your RFE. At this point you will be transferred to your service center to speak with an officer. The key is, do not start the conversation as Im calling to check on the status of my case, they will promptly tell you "we dont do that here you need to call (insert USCIS 1-800 number here). If you have an actual RFE and need some one to explain exactly what it is they are looking for then no problem but they are very aware people try to use that line for case information that does not involve a RFE.

I wish they were more aware of people waiting god knows how long for the visa!

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-21 15:43:00

Vermont Service Center

Wait, how in the world did you reach vermont center?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-11 15:13:00

write to the uscis

QUOTE (Amastar @ Apr 23 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (Nita&Assaad @ Apr 23 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I could not agree more with what Kitty said!!! Ask yourselves this, if they are illegal why would they be slowing down the immigration system, especially for Amastar since his time is not even up!!! yes there is illegals, but illegals from all countries and ethnicities just like Kitty said..And just because a person speaks Spanish doesn’t mean they are from Mexico. I understanding your anxiety about wanting to be with your spouse, but come on think before you speak and write anything down that might offend someone even if in a subtle way.

For the record. I still don't see anything wrong with what I wrote. Never once did I impy that it was MEXICANS that were illegally immigrating.
How many times a day do you read on these forums about people who are frustrated because we are all doing it the right way instead of the people who are doing it illegally and getting to be with their loved ones immediately?
I really think you and Kitty are reading too much into this.
Also, I never said I spoke spanish but half of my family DID come over from Mexico and I was raised in a mexican house hold my entire life.
I grew up on menudo too. lol

I completely agree with your post. People who want to see a problem will always find one.

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-23 18:57:00

write to the uscis

tell me where to sign?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-23 11:34:00

Can They Request additional RFE after they issue NOA2?

So if they can why do they bother at USCIS and drag already long proceedure?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 09:32:00

Can They Request additional RFE after they issue NOA2?

Just trying to understand, logic in their proceedures....

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 09:27:00

new USCIS timelines

QUOTE (shrewdgal @ Apr 21 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (Jason&Dani @ Apr 21 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No I dont believe a word they say anymore, they even told me I filed in Jan. Im just at the point that I cant even talk to my wife anymore, what can I say? Oh sorry yeah nothing still on USCIS, why ? I dont know why. What date are they on this month you ask? Why are they still in July ? I dont know that either. How long will we be apart? Sorry I dont know that either. Will we ever be together you ask? Im sorry I dont know how to answer that either. It seems like the more I speak to my wife the more I feel awful because i think about her. The more I think about her the more I think about USCIS. I feel so awful for the people on this forum that have been waiting 7 months to 12 months only for NOA2. I believe that you are some of the strongest people I have met. I pray that whatever god that each of us believes in blesses all of you, as for me................me and Jack Daniels are going to car pool over to Jim Beams house for Jose Cuervo's birthday party.

hahahha...
on a more serious note...I totally know what you mean about talking to your wife.
My husband and I are beginning to hav serious communication issues..well. actually we are on the "healing" side of it now...but it really affects one's marriage..no?

Im in the same boat. And she is having some problems right now, and because of these useless f%^s I feel so helpless. Terrible feeling alltogether. I cant believe such a big problem gets completely ignored.

Edited by Ilya R., 21 April 2008 - 04:53 PM.

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-21 16:52:00

new USCIS timelines

These USCIS agents are really good with coming up with excuses on the fly. And to add insult to injury they also give you these "ballpark" answers. "Yeah Next Month It should be quicker, or we were backloged" (arent they always)

Yeah thanks USCIS but I've heard this before. Why did I ever decide to do everything by the book is beyond me. One of those things In LIfe I regret doing is sending the application to Chicago Lockbox!

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-21 15:50:00

How many times?

lets crash the uscis website

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 16:02:00

Vermont go to Hell

Yeah its called VERMONT!

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 18:38:00

Vermont go to Hell

I should have sent my application to god, not chicago lockbox!

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 16:43:00

Another Week goes by

2/24/08 Same deal with me! GRR

Will it suddenly just come without being updated?
Or are our applications collecting dust in VermonT?

Only time will tell

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-25 16:12:00

Another Week goes by

Thanks Sarah!
You are always so upbeat, just like my wife!! I hope you are right

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-25 10:51:00

Another Week goes by

Im tired of checking my status to see no results no touches, and no updates.
VERMONT is still on July 30th.....

Does anyone have any positives on our outlook in the future (this is for all the people who HAVENT been aproved yet)

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-25 10:31:00

I-130 Approved

another california case aproved

Oy Vermont Where art thou?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-24 21:42:00

according to USCIS they dont have phone or access to email, so that means Vermont must be living in Stone age....
Communicating state of the art technology?

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 12:29:00

I'll bring my Superman shirt to the interview....

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 11:35:00

Im getting there!
So making apointment with USCIS Field office wont help me any?

The way things are going, soon I'll be actually "qualified" to work for USCIS and when my efficiency dips bellow .03% I'll join the Vermont Office!

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 11:26:00

I always knew something pushes people to alcoholism, now i know its Someone

(USCIS)

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 11:02:00

So I call it today tell her all my info. I ask if there is any new info about my case, I ask about if they need my RFE. I ask when my case will be looked at. This are the answers I get back :
"I am sorry sir, It only shows you exactly the same thing as it shows you"
"I am sorry sir, you will be approved in 135 days or then you'll be outside the waiting time and can contact us again"(I've already waited 150 days)
"I am sorry sir, I can not tell you if your case has been looked at since we've received it."
"I am sorry sir, you'll have to make an infopass apointment with your local office and ask the officer"
"I am sorry sir, we are only a USCIS Help line we cant intevene in anything"

Wow, I think I would rather talk to a machine next time!

Here is my question, if I make an appointment at my local office, is there anything more they can do to move my case along? Give me more info than USCIS (useless people) ? My fuse is running out, im about to explode with these people.

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 10:43:00

any January filers who got NOA2?

If all the Service Centers were horses at derby, the odds of Vermont coming first would be 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000:1

So start betting

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-28 19:18:00

Definition of a "filer"

QUOTE (KipandSarahJayne @ Apr 29 2008, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (pushbrk @ Apr 29 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

NOA1 is "Notice of Action" number one. The action you're being notified of is their "receipt" of you petition. Any counting of days would begin there, IMO.

180 days is not necessarily how long it takes to adjudicate a petition. It is the number of days in a standard they use. They just won't do any official inquiry on your case until 30 days after the 180 days.

Petition adjudication takes as long as it takes, whether 30 days or 300 days.

Pushbrk sometimes you sound like you work for USCIS. If that is the case, maybe you could let the guys on the USCIS helplines know this information as I, like a lot of people have been told by USCIS that the 180 days starts from when they receive the petition, not from the NOA1 date.

This sounds a little mad to start it from the NOA1 date as most of the latter third of 2007 filers didn't receive their NOA1's till late2007/early 2008. Therefore it would follow on that there would be a clump of approvals (and not much before) when the NOA1 date becomes current .... in about 6 months. This does not seem logical in the slightest.

Totally Agreed!

Why should we suffer for their innability to keep organized provide service that is advertised, and be reliable. If all of my paperwork is in order sent in November, proved by my USPS receipt, what else is there? Why should I be counted when they entered my claim in the system(measily 2 months later) ? I am sorry I dont have 60 days to just throw away, im gonna claw for every hour.

Edited by Ilya R., 29 April 2008 - 03:48 PM.

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-29 15:47:00

Definition of a "filer"

I was told that mine would start in december, by USCIS

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-29 12:35:00

Touched

QUOTE (KipandSarahJayne @ Apr 29 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (Ilya R. @ Apr 29 2008, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I had to run and check my status!
BUT
I was still stuck on the "magic" date

Ilya, I'm so pleased you mentioned you did that .... I did exactly the same

my God, how traumatised we all are

At least I know that Im not the only person doing that

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-29 15:49:00

Touched

I had to run and check my status!
BUT
I was still stuck on the "magic" date

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-29 14:55:00

APPROVED

congrats!
maybe some luck can rub off on me

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-04-29 16:27:00

~ Ode to VSC and my I-130 ~

QUOTE (KipandSarahJayne @ May 2 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (Ilya R. @ May 2 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (KipandSarahJayne @ May 2 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE (Ilya R. @ May 2 2008, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

damn that was good!

add some beats and you'll have platinum selling anti immigration rap!

Ilya, you're brilliant at times ..... well, I'm off to Atlanta, current home of rap.
Knowing me I'll probably be partying in their haunts when I eventually get there .... unless I'm so old that I'm incontient (not fun) and my teeth fall out as I sing the lyrics to some heavy beats

Dont forget to drop some F bombs, so Atlanta gets with your groove

,

you might need a new nickname. So edit sarah to like..... Haras (From the hoods of bad Londons streets, one person emerged to tell the stories of thousands....etc) ehhe I can see it now, MTV Profiles... haha

Haras .... fearless in a hoodie .... armed with nothing but an I-130

.....

Armed with I-130,
Beware of the PAPERCUT! yo

Ilya R.

Male

Russia

2008-05-02 13:58:00