ForumTitleContentMemberSexCountryDate/Time
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

Well actually Gary, if a man isn't a heavy drinker, doesn't do stupid things, etc., then even in the FSU he will have no problem living a lifespan as long as his wife's. It's that there are men who die *so* young--drugs, fights, alcoholism, hepatitis, whatever--that it brings the whole average down. If you only count the guys who make it sixty and up, there's not that much difference. So if you manage to find a good FSU man who is actually marriage-worthy, you don't have to worry about him dying at 45 or 50 anymore than you would an American guy. If you marry a guy who drinks a bottle of vodka a day or goes to mass fights, then, well, duh.


Agreed. My FSU man is actually the man I've dated who best takes care of himself; very little alcohol (maybe a beer or two on Fridays), very fit, very good diet, no drugs, no diseases, etc. I expect him to die after me. :lol:
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-16 15:17:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

Women actually look for certain qualities in men (in addition to love). Some of those certain qualities might also help to get a good job, but it's not like the job itself is the most important thing.
Now about women. Appearance is not a key factor here. There are a lot of beautiful women, but from my experience, guys are attracted not only by appearance. If it all depended on the appearence only, my fiance probably would have been married long ago. But it's about support, sharing thoughts, experiences and interests ect. so basically also it's about certain qualities.
It's a little bit more complicated than just money or appearance, which is actually good. Otherwise life would've been boring.


I think he meant it's the first thing we notice, or something like that.

To me a man being wealthy doesn't matter much... it's that he's responsible enough to hold a decent job for a long period of time. I was once with a man who was wealthy by inheritance and couldn't stand him because he'd lie down on the sofa watching TV like a dead tuna all day.

And aging, even if done gracefully, will still be aging. You still won't be the smokin, tight-bodied 20 year old at 60. It'll decrease even if slightly.

So attractiveness/financial stability aren't or shouldn't be the sole things of importance in a relationship. But to each their own.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-14 16:10:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

A beautiful woman will age gracefully. A man with a solid work history will be established enough to survive.

My point is, women look for a stable man. Men look for a beautiful woman.


Agreed... :yes:
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-14 15:46:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

A woman is her looks... a man, his job.


So what about when she gets old? You can use as much Botox as there exists in the earth but nothing stops aging. And what if the man gets fired, takes months in finding a new job and has to drain his savings, or becomes ill?

It can't be that simple for a long term relationship... unless you're willing to replace your SO every few years, which isn't really a bad idea after giving it some thought.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-14 10:55:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

You aren't a Ukrainian woman.


Most Ukranian women are attractive enough (to say the least) to not ever be jealous. Oh well.

Edited by AmyWrites, 13 April 2011 - 08:02 PM.

AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-13 20:01:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

Who else would raise you besides your mom and maybe grandma apart from your dad? I'm kind of confused by that statement. I was raised by a single mom and was a tomboy.

It pisses me off when girls try to ban their boyfriends/husbands from looking at other women. If he's going to cheat, he's going to cheat, and if you're a controlling pain in the @$$ all the time, it's all the more likely that he will stray/leave you. Just because someone else is Pretty too doesn't mean you're not.


The way that I was raised, my mom worked full time and most times had two jobs (my dad split and never looked back) and came home at 9 pm and left at 5 am to work, my grandmother was in Puerto Rico (so I saw her maybe twice a year), so I was raised and spent most of my time with my divorced, single uncle, his five sons, and my other four male cousins from my other uncle.

Yeah, most women don't want their man staring at other women... I get it, I used to be jealous. But seriously, if the worst thing your man does is notice attractive women every now and then, you've got a great man. Obviously I'm not ok with a guy who goes out on a date with you and spends 95% of the time looking at everyone else, but it's unrealistic to expect men (or women for that matter) to become blind to everyone else.

Edited by AmyWrites, 13 April 2011 - 05:39 PM.

AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-13 17:38:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...

Are you sure you are not a man disguised as a woman? I tried to explain the same thing to my wife, but she kept hitting me the whole time.


I'm pretty sure I was a man in a past life. Could also be that for a long time, the only females in my family were my grandmother, mom, and me. So I was raised almost exclusively by men.

Plus attractiveness can be appreciated in both genders. I'll happily admit that a woman or a man is hot... doesn't mean I'd go to bed with them, they're just physically appealing. I think that if your partner will cheat on you with another person only because that other person is attractive, there's bigger problems in your partner or your relationship that you should worry about.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-13 16:57:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusHow much money do I need...
My Australian ex used to say "gorgeous" a lot, and I taught my Russian boyfriend to use the word too... but I flip out if he says a girl's "attractive". Just man up and say she's hot. I don't mind, I'm the one he spends his time with.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-04-13 11:17:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusThings you will not see (or hear) in the USA
They had the right idea... if we did that more instead of shooting each other there would never be wars. :lol:
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-03-24 17:24:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusOne more RUB member added!
Congrats!!! (F) :star:
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-05-06 16:54:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusMore Visa News
I'd love to see this happens, but I'm pretty it just won't. Too much history (that should be just forgotten) there.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-05-29 23:55:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusI love this pic =D
Yeah, only one or two of those girls is hot (those are good angles to display asses though... women here seem to be rather blini-flat in terms of butts, but hey, I'm used to seeing Caribbean women), and IMO, the majority of RUB women I've encountered are just average-pretty looking girls with superb makeup/hairdressing/heel walking skills, but the phrases themselves are hilarious. I'll have to show that to my boyfriend's sister for a laugh.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-06-21 08:53:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusBad news for men world wide =(
Where I live in Moscow, there's a McD's right smack next to the metro station. It's ALWAYS full of people. I can walk past there at 3 am, 3 pm, noon, etc, doesn't matter... always packed with people. I'm seeing more and more overweight people here, especially overweight children, and men and women who seem to hit the 35+ mark and just eat until they die. IMHO the younger (I mean older teens and 20 somethings) women seem to be gaining weight more so than the young guys, who I find are usually so thin they look too young. It's not as bad as in the US, but it is a problem that seems to be increasing.

Go to Arbat now... Dunkin Donuts, Wendy's, Starbucks, all that #######. I hate that street; talk about ruining a historic place with crappy American fastfood; I miss American food sometimes but it's not so good when fastfoods plague nearly every street of nearly every capital on the planet. Random note, I nearly died when my SO told me he was taking me to a restaurant with "real Mexican food", and it was Chilli's.

More cars doesn't mean much, I think. At least in Moscow it's hell to drive anywhere, or park, so most people I know take the metro or something during the week and sometimes, during the weekends, use the car for long drives.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-06-28 03:24:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusOK...She's met my two teenage sons - Culture Clash!
Also, I don't have experience in this matter with RUB wives (I'm a woman... and have no kids), but I went through a similar experience with my mom who married a Cuban man when I was a teen. So if you'd like some perspective on it from someone who went through something similar feel free to shoot me a message.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-22 14:49:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusOK...She's met my two teenage sons - Culture Clash!
This isn't about her being from a RUB country, it's about your kids not being happy about a new person in their lives.... a "mail order bride", etc. They'll get over it, but you need to understand where they're coming from (at the same time being firm that you deserve to be happy), and Lena can't go there and demand to be Mom suddenly. It's a gradual process.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-22 10:54:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusChat on New Visa Appointment System - Moscow Embassy
They were actually going to facilitate the visa process between the US and Russia. It was meant to happen this week, but I heard it got postponed till December 25 (yeah, right smack on Christmas when many people travel!). So it's going to happen, the question is when.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-20 08:51:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusChat on New Visa Appointment System - Moscow Embassy
What new visa system? Wasn't that postponed till December 25?
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-20 06:55:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusThe wife wants to return to Russia
Aw, Russia's not a shithole. Every country on Earth has areas that are shitholes. Doesn't make the ENTIRE country a shithole. Even with the ####### that I've been through here, I'm genuinely happy... wouldn't go back to the US unless it was truly necessary.
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-10 15:31:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusThe wife wants to return to Russia
Bah, you're all making me regret this moving to Moscow thing :rofl:
AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-07 05:16:00
Russia, Ukraine and BelarusThe wife wants to return to Russia
I'm just going to tell you what I know given that I'm a USC and I live in Russia with my SO.

It really depends on the city. I live in Moscow. It's difficult as hell... at first especially, the language is a huge issue; you can't live here with just basic Russian. Well, maybe if you're able to afford to live in an expensive area, but anywhere else, no, you'll NEED Russian, at least intermediate level Russian. Outside of the touristy areas or the center or near MGU, finding people who speak/want to speak English is nearly impossible, so asking someone if they go-vo-reeooo po-anglisky (just mocking my own accent) is usually worthless. Granted, I live in a pretty... ehhh... not so good district.

In terms of cost, I call BS that Moscow is expensive; maybe where I'm from is just more expensive, but almost everything (except the rent, granted) is the same or cheaper than in the US. Of course you'll have to leave the touristy areas, which'll make your life more difficult as you'll need that much more Russian to cope.

I don't want to sound all pessimistic, but it's really difficult to make Russian friends here. The attitude towards foreigners is often (maybe 70% of the time for me) distrust, rudeness, or downright hatred, and a hectic city life doesn't provide much opportunity for socialization anyway. It doesn't matter how good your Russian is, you're not Russian, and you never will be. You will always stand out as a foreigner; sometimes, as a foreigner who's been here for years rather than a tourist, but still not a Russian. That will give you problems in terms of making friends, so if you're a very social type it'll be difficult for you. Outside of my SO's friends who have become my friends, I only have two Russian friends.

Other than that, I love it. The public transport (okay, the metro) is efficient and excellent, I feel very safe here, etc. The only big problem I'd tell anyone who plans on moving here is you NEED Russian. It's not an option. Come here with basic Russian and enroll in some Russian courses, but don't just plan to live here with basic or no Russian all your life.

Edited by AmyWrites, 06 July 2011 - 10:24 AM.

AmyWritesFemaleRussia2011-07-06 10:22:00